You know, as we were talking before, perhaps
some of the people who are watching now
were not familiar with your experience.
When, as I understand, you were hiding Jewish
people in Holland and the Nazis or the
Germans took you and because of this and
put you into prison.
How long were you in the prison?
I was an 11-month prisoner.
First four months in solitary confinement, alone in
a cell, and then in a concentration camp
in Holland, a German concentration camp, and then
in Ravensbruck, a terrible place north of Berlin.
And that's where my sister died.
She died there, and in that time God
somehow kept you sweet and tender towards him.
How did you do it?
How did you keep from being just terribly
despairing?
What kept you buoyed up at this time?
That's good, but you know what kept you?
Who kept me up?
Who kept you?
I can tell you, there are circumstances that
you cannot do anything, and it was only
the Lord who has carried me through, and
it is so good that I have experienced
that.
I had always believed.
Now I know from experience that Jesus' light
is stronger than the deepest darkness, and a
child of God cannot go so deep, always
deeper than the epilogue to carry you.
It matters not how dark it is.
His light is always there.
The devil is strong, but his power is
limited, and Jesus' power is unlimited.
And you've been there, and you know.
Was his grace always sufficient?
There was never a time when his grace
was not sufficient for you.
Indeed it was always sufficient, but sometimes I
lost courage.
You did?
Yes, and I remember that once I said,
when I looked on the stars, I said,
oh Lord, all the stars are in your
guidance, but have you forgotten your child, Corita
Mom?
And then, but I had my Bible with
me, and that was such a great joy
I had.
And then in the Bible I read that
the hairs of our head are numbered, and
God has the whole universe in his hands.
That means that God has a telescopic and
a microscopic impression.
And he knew you by name and everything
about you.
He loved you, even in the midst of
it.
Yes.
Did you feel at this time that maybe
some of the people who were holding you
captive may have been under the power of
demons?
Did you sense a demonic force doing some
of these very cruel things?
Yes, of course.
They were quite in the power of the
devil.
They were in you?
Yes.
Why did you think so?
What showed it?
Just their actions in general?
Yes, their actions and what they said, and
they hated God and Jesus.
They did?
Yes, and the Bible was a forbidden book.
How did you get that copy, the copy
into the concentration camp?
That was a miracle.
You know, when we entered, I had a
little Bible, but it was a small Bible,
but a whole Bible, the whole New Testament,
and I had it hidden under my clothes
on my back.
And I saw that they took away everything
that we had hidden.
And I was so scared that I said,
oh Lord, send your angels, let they surround
me.
Yes.
But then I thought, yes, but angels are
spirits, and you can look through a spirit,
and these people may not see me.
So I said, oh God, let your angels
this time not be transparent.
God did it.
The woman who stood before me was searched,
and then my sister who was behind me,
and they did not see me.
And so I came in the prison with
my Bible.
God just actually planted them.
They couldn't see you, the angels.
We mustn't be too amazed when God does
miracles.
What do you think God is calling Christians
for today?
What task has he got for them?
There is a tremendous task for us Christians
in this time.
For never there has been such a sick
world.
Pray for your leaders.
Pray.
Oh, there are so many people who need
prayer.
And that is a work that we all
have to do, and very important work.
And I know some people say, I don't
know how to pray.
Yes, this man is a prayer warrior, and
these people there, they are prayer warriors, but
I don't know how to pray.
And then I always say what is written
in Romans 8, that the Spirit himself teaches
how to pray.
We have to forgive.
I was not at peace with men.
There was hatred in my heart.
When God was cruel for my friends and
for Betsy and me, there came such a
hatred in my heart.
Oh, and then I learned to take the
promise of Romans 5, 5, the love of
God is brought into our hearts by the
Holy Spirit.
And I learned this prayer.
Thank you, Jesus, that you have brought into
my heart God's love through the Holy Spirit
was given to me.
And thank you, Father, that your love in
me is stronger than my hatred.
And the hatred went, and I could love
my enemies.
Praise God.
Praise the Lord.
And you know, that film that is made
of The Hiding Place, that movie shows what
it means to go through terrible suffering with
Jesus.
Praise God.
And that is the message that we must
know now, because many people go through terrible
suffering.
You think in America we're going to go
through suffering?
Yes, sir.
I believe that.
That is what the Bible tells us, that
we can, but we have nothing to fear.
Amen.
Because Jesus is victor, and he will never
let us down.
Praise God.
But, oh, my times are in God's hands.