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Well, hello, glad to see you again, or

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at least for you to see me.

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This is the third session on the conference

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on church and state.

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If you haven't watched the first two sessions,

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then I would suggest that you do watch

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them before you watch this session, unless obviously

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you're watching live.

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Because they do lay the doctrinal foundation for

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what we're going to speak about in this

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third and last session.

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So let's open in prayer.

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Father, we come to you again in the

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name of the Lord Jesus, and we do

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pray for your help again.

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We pray that you would help me to

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deliver this very difficult message, but Lord, that

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you'd also help each one of us to

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understand and to receive the Word without prejudice.

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Lord, it is so easy to come to

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your Word with preconceived ideas as to what

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it says and what it means.

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Lord, we pray, Lord, that you'd help us,

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that we might be able to take a

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fresh look at your Word again.

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In Jesus' name we pray.

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Amen.

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All right, so I'm going to begin with

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a reading again as usual, and I'm going

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to read from the book of Hosea, and

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chapter 2, verses 1 through 13, or actually

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chapter 2, verse 2 through 13.

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Hosea is not a hard book to find.

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It is the first of the minor prophets.

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And so you have the major prophets ending

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with Daniel, and then the next book is

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Hosea.

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And I'm going to begin reading in verse

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It is a long reading, and you'll see

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the significance of this as we go along.

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God is obviously speaking to Israel.

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And slay her with thirst.

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I will not have mercy on her children,

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for they are the children of Harlotry.

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For their mother has played the harlot.

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She who conceived them has behaved shamefully.

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For she said, I will go after my

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lovers, who give me my bread and my

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water, my wool and my linen, my oil

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and my drink.

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Therefore, behold, I will hedge up your way

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with thorns and wall her in, so that

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she cannot find her paths.

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She will chase her lovers, but not overtake

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them.

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Yes, she will seek them, but not find

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them.

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Then she will say, I will go and

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return to my first husband, for then it

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was better for me than now.

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For she did not know that I gave

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her grain, new wine and oil, and multiplied

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her silver and gold, which they prepared for

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Baal.

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Therefore, I will return and take away my

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grain in its time, my new wine in

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its season, and will take back my wool

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and my linen, given to cover her nakedness.

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Now I will uncover her lewdness in the

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sight of her lovers, and no one shall

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deliver her from my hand.

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I will also cause all her mirth to

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cease, her feast days, her new moons, her

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Sabbaths, all her appointed feasts.

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And I will destroy her vines and her

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fig trees, of which she has said, These

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are my wages that my lovers have given

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So I will make them a forest, and

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the beasts of the field will eat them.

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I will punish her for the days of

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the Baals, to which she burnt incense.

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She decked herself with her earrings and jewelry,

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and went after her lovers.

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But me she forgot, says the Lord."

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A very, very harsh statement of God concerning

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And obviously he is dealing here with the

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concept of Israel, who really was his wife.

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And he says, you're no longer my wife,

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I'm not your husband.

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He deals with the issue of adultery and

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harlotry.

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And we're going to touch on some of

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these issues in the session.

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And so the title of the session is

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The Kings and the Harlot.

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And we're going to go a long way

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around through various scriptures, and again through history,

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because I want us to understand the context,

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in the context of our modern world, and

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how this applies to the church.

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Now, the first principle that we need to

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understand is that Satan has his counterfeits.

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He very much wants to be God.

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Remember the problem in the very beginning, I

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will be like the Most High.

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And so he has built his own counterfeit

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trinity.

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And he has counterfeits for so much else

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of the things of God.

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The counterfeit trinity, of course, instead of the

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Father, you have Satan taking the place of

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God.

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Instead of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son

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of God, you have the Antichrist.

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Remember the word anti is not just against,

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but also means in the place of.

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And so in the place of Christ, the

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second person of the trinity.

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And then instead of the Holy Spirit, you

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have the false prophet.

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But in addition to those, you also have

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the church.

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The church is the bride of Christ.

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And again, we're not specifically dealing with Israel

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in this session.

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But the church is the bride of Christ.

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And so Satan has his counterfeit to the

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bride of Christ, the great harlot.

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And we're going to end up in the

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book of Revelation, and we're going to look

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at the great harlot when we come to

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Revelation.

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Now, the moment I mention the great harlot,

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immediately we say, well, this is the church

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of Rome.

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And I will deal with that later.

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But let's not just fixate on Rome.

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Let me just tell you at this point,

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so that we can try and clarify this

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as we move along, that the great harlot

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does not just represent Rome, of which Rome

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probably is the great harlot, but she also

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has daughters, those who come out of her

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illicit relationship.

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And that includes all false churches.

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don't include Islam or other things like that

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in this, because they are clearly not in

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the place of the church.

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genuine church is part of the great harlot.

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All right, so let's get back to the

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foundation that I want to lay.

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And probably I'm going to spend 60 or

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70 percent of the time that we have

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in laying a foundation and then getting to

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the real point.

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So forgive me for that.

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So we have these concepts of adultery, fornication

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and holotry.

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I'm not going to deal with the difference

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between adultery and fornication.

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Clearly they are two different things.

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Fornication is the overarching thing.

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all sorts of perversions.

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But a subset of fornication, and the New

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King James uses the word sexual immorality, which

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is actually quite a good...

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When I first saw that, I really struggled

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with that concept.

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It was so different to fornication.

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But it really does encompass all.

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Pornia encompasses all sexual immorality.

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And adultery is part of that.

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Now we're not going to deal with that

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so much today, but we're going to speak

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about adultery and then holotry.

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Prostitution, if you will, in modern language, but

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using the biblical term holotry.

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There is a difference between the two.

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Obviously they are both sexual sins.

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Both of them involve an illicit relationship.

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so much with the issue of illicit sex.

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The difference between the two, really in the

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context of what we're speaking today, is adultery

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is an illicit relationship outside of the marriage.

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-called love or whatever it is.

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of marriage.

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look very quickly at a couple of verses.

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I'm just going to look at two verses

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there, verses 5 and verse 8.

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now plays out.

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For their mother, that's Israel really, has played

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the holot.

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She has conceived them.

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Now we're going to speak about illicit children.

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Because an illicit relationship produces illicit children.

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I will have, sorry, verse 5.

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For their mother has played the holot.

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She who has conceived them has behaved shamefully.

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For she said, I will go after my

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lovers, who give me my bread and my

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water, my wool and my linen, my oil

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and my drink.

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So she goes after her illicit lovers, because

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they give her certain things.

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This is cardinal to the whole message this

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They give her certain things in exchange for

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her favors.

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did not know that I gave her grain,

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new wine and oil, and multiplied her silver

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and gold.

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So instead of receiving the gifts and being

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grateful for the gifts that she receives from

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her husband, she forsakes that because her illicit

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lovers are giving her something different.

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thing.

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And if you can keep that in mind

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as we now go through the rest of

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the study, and particularly as we look at

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the examples in a few moments.

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Now the second thing that we need to

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understand is that as much as Israel committed

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adultery, against the Lord, was unfaithful to the

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Lord, by entering into illicit relationships with all

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sorts of things, but amongst other things the

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idols.

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And so instead of cleaving to the Lord,

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they leave the Lord and they go back

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to idols and to those weak and beggarly

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elements.

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And I'm just taking out of context a

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statement from the book of Galatians.

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Now this is also true of the church.

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It is possible for Christians to commit adultery

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in a spiritual sense.

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In James chapter 4 and verse 4, James

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says adulterers, now he's writing to Christians, adulterers

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and adulteresses, do you not know that friendship

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with the world is enmity with God?

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They committed adultery because they entered into an

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illicit relationship with the world.

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And then he says, whoever therefore wants to

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be a friend of the world makes himself

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an enemy of God.

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So Christians commit adultery against the Lord when

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they forsake Him, and they enter into a

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relationship with the world.

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Now remember in the previous sessions we said

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that there are only these two things, the

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kingdom of God and the kingdoms of the

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world, or God's kingdom and the world.

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If we leave God's kingdom and we enter

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into a relationship with the world, we are

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committing adultery the same way as Israel committed

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adultery when Israel forsook the Lord and got

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into a relationship with the Baals.

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Now just incidentally, very quickly, it's interesting that

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we generally tend to think that Israel forsook

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the Lord, and I should maybe not have

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used that term, that they turned their backs

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on God and followed Baal.

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But in fact most of the times they

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cleaved to the Lord and they worshipped Baal

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at the same time.

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Many times the altars would be next to

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each other.

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Many times the worship would happen almost simultaneously.

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So they didn't entirely leave God.

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They didn't entirely turn their backs on God.

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No, they worshipped Him together with the idols.

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And you remember that the command says that

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you shall not have other gods besides me,

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not instead of me, but next to me.

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And so that is adultery.

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The church can and does commit adultery when

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it enters into an illicit relationship.

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Now, let's have a look at a few

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examples from Scripture and also from history.

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And I've just taken, I don't know how

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many I have here, it looks like about

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ten, and there are many, many, many more.

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I've just selected a few that just came

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to the top of my head as I

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was writing these things down.

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The first one I want to look at

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very briefly is Balaam and Balak.

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You remember Balaam was the prophet to whom

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the donkey spoke.

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And Balaam goes and enters into an illicit

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relationship with Balak.

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Balak, the king, pays him money to curse

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Israel.

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And remember that he fails in cursing Israel.

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And so he then goes to the king

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and says, Well, look, what you need to

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do is get your daughters to seduce the

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Israelite men, and when they then seduce them

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and get them to worship the idols, God

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will turn against Israel and God will punish

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Israel.

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And so, of course, that worked, and we

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have the warning in the New Testament that

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we need to be careful that there is

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not someone like Balaam amongst us who seduces

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and teaches the church to enter into an

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illicit relationship with something outside and something that

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has been forbidden by the Lord.

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And I trust that you can see how

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this begins to fit together.

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We have Israel and their kings.

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Remember, God said, I want to be your

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God.

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I want to be your king.

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He wanted them to be what we call

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a theocracy.

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He wanted them to be under His governance.

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And Israel says, No, we want to be

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like the other nations.

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We want our own king.

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This was a form of adultery.

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Solomon and his many wives and concubines.

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And we can say, Well, you know, it

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was permissible to have many wives those days.

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But remember that it was not permissible to

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have wives of foreign nations.

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And so, Solomon enters into illicit relationships.

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They may have been sanctified by the culture

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at the time in the sense that he

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could have more than one wife, although God

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never sanctifies that.

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But the fact that they are a heathen

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woman, that they are women who worship false

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gods, is clearly forbidden by the Lord.

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So he enters into those illicit relationships.

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And that results in Israel being divided into

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the northern and the southern tribes.

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That is the beginning.

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And while Solomon rode the crest of the

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wave, and Israel achieved greatness like at no

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other time, this was the end of the

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great days, and Israel declined from that moment

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on.

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We have Ahab and Jezebel.

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Jezebel was a Gentile woman.

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And Ahab enters into a relationship with her.

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And she seduces Israel again to worship Baal.

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So we have the same principle.

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And we have a warning in Revelation 2,

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verse 20, that there are Jezebels.

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Now, I'm not going to get into the

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whole Jezebel spirit.

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The Bible doesn't speak about a Jezebel spirit.

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But it speaks about those who are like

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Jezebel, who are teaching the children of God

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to commit adultery.

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The whole principle between Jezebel teaching Israel to

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worship Baal is brought into the church, and

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brought into the book of Revelation, the messages

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to the seven churches, worshipping idols being taught

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by so-called Jezebel.

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Israel often entered into illicit relationships with other

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nations when they felt that the enemy was

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too big.

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They didn't trust God.

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They didn't rely on the Lord's ability to

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deliver them, as He had delivered them so

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many times.

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And so, instead of trusting the Lord, they

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trust in illicit alliances with foreign kings, and

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with Gentile nations.

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And the Lord judges them for that.

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But you can see the same principle.

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While it's not called adultery, it's the same

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principle of an illicit relationship in order to

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get something out of that relationship, and that

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brings the judgment of God.

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In the New Testament, we have the temple,

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and we have the Sadducees.

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And I'm really going to just cut to

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the chase here.

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But the Sadducees had entered into a relationship

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with Rome, whereby they were appointed to be

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the high priest and to run the temple.

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Rome would then collect the temple tax and

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then hand some of that over back to

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the Sadducees.

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And so the Caiaphas, the high priest, who

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hands Jesus back over to Rome, is one

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of the Sadducees.

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And so they had set up a thriving

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business, sold Israel, effectively, for money.

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And so they would keep Israel under control,

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they would keep Israel in check, make sure

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there were no problems, and in exchange, they

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would receive position and power and money from

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the Roman government.

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And this led directly to the crucifixion of

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the Lord Jesus.

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Because remember that Caiaphas said, it is better

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for one man to die for the nation.

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Now, he didn't mean that in an atoning

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way, as we like to understand it.

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He simply meant that Jesus needs to die,

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because if he doesn't die, there's going to

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be an uproar, and then the Romans are

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going to come down on us, and then

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we're going to have real trouble.

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And so they sacrificed Jesus for political expediency.

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That's what happens when we enter into these

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illicit relationships.

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Now, if we go beyond Scripture, I'm going

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to take a few examples quickly.

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We have Constantine in A.D. 300.

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Constantine becomes the emperor of Rome, and I

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was blessed to be in York, and probably

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our friends from York are watching today, or

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from Yorkshire are watching today, and it was

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quite something to see the York Minster, where

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in the original building, Constantine was crowned.

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But when Constantine became emperor, he married church

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and state.

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And in fact, the very first church councils,

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particularly the Council of Nicaea, Constantine chaired that

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meeting.

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Here is an unbeliever.

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I know some people like to think he

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was a Christian.

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No, he was far from a Christian.

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But here is this unbeliever, a Roman, who

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for political expediency married the church and the

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state.

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And so he sits in the chair, and

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he chairs the meeting of the Council of

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Nicaea.

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And in fact, he had tremendous influence on

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the final creed that the council produced.

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Now, you need to think about that, because

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many people put their total trust of their

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doctrine in the Nicaean creed.

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But remember that this was produced, and remember

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what these relationships produce.

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They produce illegitimate children.

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They produce bastards.

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And so the council produces this document, and

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he has a casting vote, and he changes

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some significant things in the Nicaean creed.

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And of course, out of that we know

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comes the Church of Rome.

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And so we're going to talk about that

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again a little later.

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Later on, we have the Reformation.

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And we say, well, this is a great,

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wonderful thing.

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And I'm not going to get into the

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Reformation.

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But we spoke earlier in one of the

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previous sessions, we spoke about the relationship between

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the magistrates in Geneva and Calvin, this relationship

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between the church and the state.

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And in Calvin's Geneva, the church and the

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magistrates, or the state, they empowered one another.

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The one gave power to the other, and

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the other one looked after the interests of

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the other.

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And so we have exactly the same thing

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operating at that time.

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And this continued for a long, long time.

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This was common in Europe at that time.

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So that Arminius, who opposed some of the

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teachings of Calvin and many modern Christians like

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to call themselves Arminians.

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I'm not an Arminian because I don't follow

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Arminius.

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I follow the scriptures.

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But during Arminius' time, and one of the

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things that Arminius stood against the Calvinists on

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was that Arminius perpetuated the popular idea at

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that time that the civil government would appoint

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the church officers.

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In other words, pastors and whatever other important

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officers they had in the church at that

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time, these were appointed by the civil government.

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And you'll find a modern representation of that

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still in the United Kingdom today.

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And so Arminius, and then the other states

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in Europe, until very recently, and I think

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in fact still some of the Scandinavian countries

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still take the church tax, which is then

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paid over to the church.

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And so you can see this relationship between

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church and state.

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Now because we're speaking mainly to, or not

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mainly, but from an English base in the

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sense that the conference is hosted in the

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United Kingdom, we have to speak about the

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Church of England.

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Now just think about what we spoke about

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yesterday.

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There's the church, and there's the state.

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When you have a church and state even

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married in their name, the Church of England

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or Anglican Church, and for my American friends

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here it's called the Episcopalian Church, so it's

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all the same thing.

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And we know the history, how that Henry

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VIII couldn't get an annulment of his marriage

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from the Pope, and so he broke from

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Rome, and he said we're going to have

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our own church, and he was self-appointed,

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appointed himself the head of the church, and

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we know that that is even true today,

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that the Queen still is the head of

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the church, and that the senior bishops are

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appointed by the government rather than by the

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church.

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Now obviously the church advises the government, but

539
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:29,850
the appointments come from the government.

540
00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:33,810
The Archbishop of Canterbury, when he retires, becomes

541
00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:35,510
a lord and sits in the House of

542
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:35,830
Lords.

543
00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:39,270
So you have this relationship, and forgive me

544
00:25:39,270 --> 00:25:41,370
if I have the history a little bit

545
00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:41,630
wrong.

546
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:43,530
As I said yesterday, my perspective is from

547
00:25:43,530 --> 00:25:46,830
an American and South African one, but you

548
00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:51,270
have this intimate relationship between the church and

549
00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,250
the state, and we're going to come back

550
00:25:54,250 --> 00:25:56,690
to that again in a few minutes.

551
00:25:57,290 --> 00:25:59,630
In South Africa, we spoke about that yesterday,

552
00:26:00,050 --> 00:26:03,090
this relationship between the Dutch Reformed Church and

553
00:26:03,090 --> 00:26:06,970
the nationalist government in South Africa, ruled for

554
00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:09,110
many years, the same relationship.

555
00:26:09,490 --> 00:26:12,490
The church empowered the government, the church kept

556
00:26:12,490 --> 00:26:15,190
the people behind the government, and the government

557
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:16,390
protected the church.

558
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:20,890
The church, in fact, created a theology that

559
00:26:20,890 --> 00:26:27,230
would support the government's agenda and the whole

560
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:28,130
apartheid system.

561
00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:33,290
They designed a complete, total theology around that.

562
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:36,390
And so again, you see this illicit relationship.

563
00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:38,610
I said to you in the earlier session

564
00:26:38,610 --> 00:26:43,470
that any major event would be opened in

565
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:46,010
prayer, and we'd say, well, this is a

566
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:48,030
wonderful thing, look how religious we are.

567
00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:50,290
But in fact, it is more than that.

568
00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:53,050
It's a statement of this relationship between the

569
00:26:53,050 --> 00:26:55,370
church and the state, between the church and

570
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:56,810
the government.

571
00:26:57,770 --> 00:26:59,810
And then we come to the United States

572
00:26:59,810 --> 00:27:01,570
of America, and this is where it gets

573
00:27:01,570 --> 00:27:03,970
really, really hairy.

574
00:27:04,430 --> 00:27:06,510
And I know that there's a certain percentage

575
00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:08,690
of those who are watching right now who

576
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:10,430
are going to turn off at the end

577
00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:12,930
of this, and who will probably send me

578
00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:16,710
all sorts of nasty emails and stuff.

579
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:20,430
But in America, in the last six years,

580
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:23,910
the church, the evangelical church, has entered into

581
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:27,810
a relationship with the government, with the Republican

582
00:27:27,810 --> 00:27:28,390
Party.

583
00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:32,210
Anyone will tell you, doesn't matter which side

584
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:34,270
of the fence they're on, will tell you

585
00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:36,990
that Trump was brought to power as a

586
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:40,010
result of the religious right.

587
00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,710
The so-called religious right, particularly the evangelical

588
00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:44,310
church.

589
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:48,690
The evangelical leaders crowned him at his inauguration.

590
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:51,310
They were there to put the seal on

591
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,770
his inauguration, to pray for him, to bless

592
00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:57,330
him, and to prophesy to the nation that

593
00:27:57,330 --> 00:28:01,110
this man is the man of God.

594
00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:03,750
Now, I'm not going to get into the

595
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,050
whole issue of whether he's saved or not.

596
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:08,490
That's not the point.

597
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:12,530
But we have a relationship now between the

598
00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:16,650
government and the religious right, and the church.

599
00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:20,190
It's a symbiotic relationship.

600
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:23,730
Because what happens is that the church empowers

601
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:26,510
and gives power to Trump.

602
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:29,870
And Trump, in exchange, gives favors to the

603
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:30,250
church.

604
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:31,730
Can you see this?

605
00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:33,630
Can you see how this is the same

606
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:36,130
pattern that we have seen right from the

607
00:28:36,130 --> 00:28:39,510
beginning, from Balaam right up to where we

608
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,190
are today?

609
00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:43,210
Now, I know people say, well, you know,

610
00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:46,310
we want a government that will protect the

611
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:46,490
church.

612
00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:49,770
We want a government that will stand against

613
00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:52,770
abortion, that will stand against homosexual marriage.

614
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:56,030
We want a government that will restore the

615
00:28:56,030 --> 00:28:57,010
rights of the church.

616
00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:58,530
But here's the problem.

617
00:28:59,710 --> 00:29:03,590
Who is it that protects the church?

618
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,220
Who protects the church?

619
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Jesus said, I will build my church, and

620
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
the gates of hell will not prevail against

621
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,380
it.

622
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,400
And the day that the church entered into

623
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,220
a relationship with the government, whether it's in

624
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,540
America or in England or wherever it is,

625
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,140
the day that happens, you are committing adultery.

626
00:29:29,660 --> 00:29:32,460
Because you are saying, the Lord cannot protect

627
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:33,140
His church.

628
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:35,400
The Lord cannot keep us.

629
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,800
The Lord cannot promote our agenda and our

630
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,340
cause.

631
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800
The Lord cannot promote righteousness.

632
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
We have to enter into a relationship with

633
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,860
the Gentiles and with the heathen, so that

634
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:50,640
we may be preserved and that we may

635
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,120
preserve our values.

636
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:56,560
Folks, this is incredibly serious.

637
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,580
This is incredibly serious.

638
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,480
This has nothing to do with who you

639
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,540
vote for, whether you're Republican or Democrat.

640
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,080
I'm not getting into that.

641
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:10,540
But the moment we begin to enter into

642
00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:16,920
a tacit relationship with the government, and we

643
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,960
receive favors from the government, and the government

644
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,300
receives our support and our vote, we have

645
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:26,320
an illicit relationship.

646
00:30:26,540 --> 00:30:28,000
Now I'm not saying that you can't vote

647
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,640
according to your conscience.

648
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:32,000
And if you want to vote for a

649
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:38,400
conservative candidate, whether it be conservative in England

650
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,000
or Republican here, that's fine.

651
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,260
But there's a difference between performing your civic

652
00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:49,740
duty and entering into a relationship and beginning

653
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:52,440
to look to that man, and beginning to

654
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,180
promote that man as the Savior, as the

655
00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:59,460
man who's going to save America, and particularly

656
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:01,220
who's going to save the church.

657
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:06,040
Because in that process, you're committing adultery against

658
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,320
the Lord Jesus Christ.

659
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:10,460
And so here's the principle.

660
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:12,020
We've established this over and over.

661
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,040
I want us to get this.

662
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,020
The principle is that the woman looks to

663
00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:23,860
the man, the false man, for help, for

664
00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:29,640
protection, for promotion, and sometimes for finances.

665
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,920
In exchange, he looks to her for favors,

666
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,320
for support, and for affirmation.

667
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,900
Now just by the way, I want to

668
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,840
just take a little detour for a moment

669
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,220
here.

670
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:55,300
Because of what the church has done, the

671
00:31:55,300 --> 00:32:00,560
church has ruined its testimony in the face

672
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,320
of the world.

673
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,180
The church can no longer preach the gospel

674
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:06,540
to a Democrat.

675
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:09,580
And I'm speaking in general terms.

676
00:32:10,940 --> 00:32:12,940
Because when you speak to a Democrat about

677
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:16,220
the gospel, they say, no, that is the

678
00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:19,840
religion of the Republican Party.

679
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:23,340
Can you see how that you have married

680
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:26,780
into a relationship which now closes the door

681
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:31,040
and the opportunity to speak prophetically, and to

682
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,620
preach the gospel to those who are not

683
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,400
of your political party.

684
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,100
For that reason, the church must always be

685
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,260
independent of the state.

686
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:47,180
Independent of either parties, or whatever parties there

687
00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:48,820
are in your particular country.

688
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:51,460
Because the gospel is to everyone.

689
00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:54,020
It is not just for Republicans or for

690
00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:54,780
Conservatives.

691
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,700
It is for Labor, and it is for

692
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:00,360
Democrats, and for whatever parties are in your

693
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,620
particular country.

694
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:06,260
The church must remain independent in order to

695
00:33:06,260 --> 00:33:09,460
retain its witness, and in order to retain

696
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:13,900
its right to speak prophetically in the time

697
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:14,640
in which we are living.

698
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Now let's have a look at the fruit.

699
00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:19,760
And I want to look quickly at, because

700
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,100
we've spoken about the fruit of these relationships,

701
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,620
and the fruit is always very, very clear.

702
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:29,960
You see, because we've, particularly in America, put

703
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,600
so much confidence in the present government, and

704
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
hoping that this is going to turn America

705
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,900
back to greatness, is going to make the

706
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:43,420
church great again, is going to restore morality,

707
00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:45,360
is going to get everything, is going to

708
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,880
be great.

709
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,020
But folks, here's the problem.

710
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,540
This relationship between church and state has in

711
00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:59,280
various shapes and forms been there for 250

712
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,120
years.

713
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,180
And if it hasn't been there explicitly in

714
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:08,520
250 years, it's been there explicitly in the

715
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,659
last 50, 70 years.

716
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:14,679
And what has it produced?

717
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,340
Has the church grown?

718
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,980
No, the church is dying in America, and

719
00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:22,219
we have to face the facts.

720
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,760
Has it made society more moral?

721
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,639
No, society in America has become more immoral.

722
00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:33,820
Has it turned people to God?

723
00:34:34,179 --> 00:34:36,920
No, people have turned more and more away

724
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,360
from God.

725
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:39,120
And we can speak about the United Kingdom

726
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,760
the same way.

727
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920
This relationship between the king and the church

728
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,199
has existed for 450 years.

729
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,040
And what has it produced?

730
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,900
It hasn't produced a more moral and just

731
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:52,520
society.

732
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,460
In fact, on the contrary.

733
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,560
It hasn't produced a healthy church.

734
00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:59,340
In fact, the contrary.

735
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,680
And so we can go on and on.

736
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840
You see, and all that comes out of

737
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
that are illicit children.

738
00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:10,580
And so in a so-called Christian country,

739
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,040
like America or the United Kingdom or Zimbabwe,

740
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,120
any of the Western countries, you have millions

741
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,500
of illicit children.

742
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440
People who grow up believing that they are

743
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,180
born again, that they are saved because they

744
00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:33,500
were born in England or in Scotland or

745
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,640
wherever.

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,380
They are half-baked.

747
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,660
They are half-Christian and half-not-Christian.

748
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,720
That's all it produces.

749
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,340
In fact, here's the other side of the

750
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:53,620
coin, and then I'm going to turn to

751
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:55,000
the book of Revelation.

752
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:02,360
The church only thrives in difficult times.

753
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:05,820
Because in difficult times, when the church is

754
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:09,080
being persecuted by the government, when the church

755
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,480
is being persecuted by its society, it knows

756
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,040
where to run.

757
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,340
It knows that its help comes from the

758
00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:20,780
Lord, that He is the only one who

759
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:21,300
can keep.

760
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,280
He is the only one who can protect.

761
00:36:24,740 --> 00:36:26,300
And there is no compromise.

762
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:30,620
And it's under those conditions that the church

763
00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:31,400
does well.

764
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,100
We have a wrong understanding of this whole

765
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,220
thing because we don't want...

766
00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:38,500
I don't want persecution.

767
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,100
I want to live in a civil society

768
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,220
where Christians can...

769
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:45,980
where we can meet openly and where we

770
00:36:45,980 --> 00:36:47,480
don't have to meet in secret, where we

771
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,540
don't have to go to prison.

772
00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:50,780
But it's changing.

773
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,720
And it has to change if the church

774
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,080
is going to be purified before the coming

775
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,880
of the Lord Jesus.

776
00:36:58,580 --> 00:36:58,820
All right.

777
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Let's go to Revelation chapter 17 and now

778
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,080
let's see how this whole thing comes together

779
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,060
in Revelation and in the end.

780
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,580
So, Revelation chapter 17 and I'm just going

781
00:37:18,580 --> 00:37:19,040
to look...

782
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,320
The whole chapter is relevant as much as

783
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Revelation chapter 13 and part of chapter 18.

784
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:29,340
But we don't have the time to go

785
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:29,520
there.

786
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,620
So I'm going to look at the first

787
00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:32,940
six verses and I'm going to look at

788
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:34,040
them...

789
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,420
I'm going to touch on some of them

790
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:40,380
as we go through.

791
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,660
I'm not going to read it through and

792
00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,120
then come back because that's going to take

793
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,780
too much time.

794
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,660
We have limited time left.

795
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:48,620
So, verse 1 of Revelation 17.

796
00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:50,960
Then one of the seven angels who had

797
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,660
the seven bowls came and talked with me

798
00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:54,980
saying to me, Come, I will show you

799
00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:57,280
the judgment of the great harlot who sits

800
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,440
on many waters.

801
00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:02,600
Now if you go down to verse 15

802
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,940
he says, Then he said to me, The

803
00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:07,020
waters which you saw where the harlot sits

804
00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:10,660
are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.

805
00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:15,400
Now, the harlot is a religious figure.

806
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,000
She sits on nations.

807
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,860
Verse 2, With whom the kings of the

808
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:25,760
earth have committed fornication.

809
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Can you see this idea?

810
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,240
You can see the same pattern running right

811
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:35,660
through Scripture from Balaam and Balak to the

812
00:38:35,660 --> 00:38:36,080
end.

813
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:38,300
So the kings of the earth have committed

814
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:38,980
fornication.

815
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:42,340
They've entered into an illicit relationship with her.

816
00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:43,500
Now, think Rome.

817
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:44,880
And I didn't use Rome as one of

818
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,740
those examples because I want to focus on

819
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:46,980
that.

820
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,060
But we know that this relationship between Rome

821
00:38:50,060 --> 00:38:52,940
and the church, the church of Rome and

822
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:56,140
the governments has always existed right from the

823
00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:56,460
beginning.

824
00:38:56,540 --> 00:38:58,860
The kings needed the blessing of the Pope

825
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:01,280
and the Pope needed the finances and everything

826
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640
else that came from the government.

827
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:09,880
And remember that the reformers did exactly the

828
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,380
same thing.

829
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,540
Luther was protected by the princes and so

830
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:13,020
on.

831
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:15,840
And so, the kings of the earth committed

832
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,320
fornication with her and the inhabitants of the

833
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,100
earth were made drunk with a wine of

834
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,200
her fornication.

835
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,440
They were put into an altered state of

836
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,920
consciousness.

837
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Their thinking was affected.

838
00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:32,760
And so, he carried me away in the

839
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,540
spirit into the wilderness and I saw a

840
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:36,760
woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was

841
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,700
full of names of blasphemy having seven heads

842
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:39,440
and ten horns.

843
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,260
The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet

844
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:44,080
and adorned with gold and precious stones and

845
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,540
pearls having in her hand a golden cup

846
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:49,700
full of abominations and the filthiness of her

847
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:50,360
fornication.

848
00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,460
Now, I'm sure that you've heard many messages

849
00:39:54,460 --> 00:39:56,380
speak about this as being Rome and the

850
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,880
purple of the cardinals and the scarlet of

851
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,440
the cardinals and the gold cup of the

852
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,220
abomination of the Eucharist and all of those

853
00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:06,520
things.

854
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,820
And I think there may be truth in

855
00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:09,080
that.

856
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,340
But she is sitting on a scarlet beast,

857
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,880
the Antichrist.

858
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:18,240
We don't have time to go there.

859
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880
You can make the connections for yourself.

860
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:23,620
But she sits on the Antichrist.

861
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:26,360
In other words, he carries her.

862
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,820
The government carries the false religion.

863
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:34,980
Same principle that we've seen all along.

864
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,460
Now I want you to look at verse

865
00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:36,940
5.

866
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:39,800
And on her forehead a name was written,

867
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,380
Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots

868
00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:48,900
and of the abominations of the earth.

869
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,960
You see, even if the great harlot is

870
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,700
Rome, and I'm not saying it is.

871
00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:00,200
I lean in that direction, but I'm not

872
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,920
saying it is.

873
00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:04,180
But even if that is Rome, what you

874
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:07,420
have is that she has daughters.

875
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,820
The mother of harlots.

876
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160
So she produces children.

877
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,000
And those children are prostitutes.

878
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,620
Those children are harlots.

879
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,680
Because they're entering into the same relationship.

880
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,220
Now just think about that.

881
00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:30,640
Unfortunately, many churches today tie themselves back to

882
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,340
Rome through the Reformation.

883
00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:35,420
They are daughters of the Church of Rome

884
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:38,060
even though they may be Protestant today.

885
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,160
And I know that opens a whole can

886
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,520
of worms.

887
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,720
I'm not going to develop that thought.

888
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,320
You can go there for yourself.

889
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,900
And then verse 6.

890
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:47,340
I saw the woman drunk with the blood

891
00:41:47,340 --> 00:41:49,100
of the saints and with the blood of

892
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:50,000
the martyrs of Jesus.

893
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,900
And when I saw her, I marveled with

894
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:53,780
great amazement.

895
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,040
You see, here's the other thing that happens.

896
00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:00,100
And that is that the great harlot, the

897
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,880
false woman, will always persecute the true woman,

898
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,660
the bride of Christ.

899
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,100
Don't we have examples of that in Scripture?

900
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,760
Isn't there a principle that runs right through

901
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:20,540
Scripture that the false persecutes the true, even

902
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,940
beginning with Cain and Abel.

903
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:24,500
And then there are several examples of women

904
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:31,380
where the imposter persecutes the true wife.

905
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,040
And folks, today we are not quite seeing

906
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,900
this yet, but I believe it's begun.

907
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:43,240
There's been a persecution that has been unleashed

908
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:48,140
against true Bible-believing, born-again, God-fearing

909
00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:54,300
Christians by other Christians of all sorts and

910
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:55,080
all kinds.

911
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,200
This is what the book of Revelation is

912
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,080
speaking about.

913
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,200
When we begin to persecute one another, and

914
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,800
when some of us are not the real

915
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,220
thing, because we've been born out of adultery,

916
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,600
we've been born out of an illicit relationship.

917
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:19,800
And I'm particularly concerned about Christians who defend

918
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,820
civil governments and become uncivil in their attack

919
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:27,240
on Christians who say what I've been saying

920
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,460
in these last three sessions.

921
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:30,780
We stand on the Word of God.

922
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,820
Our relationship is with Jesus Christ and with

923
00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:34,700
Him alone.

924
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,280
He is the only one who can save.

925
00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:40,780
He is the only one who can protect

926
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:41,240
us.

927
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,500
He is the only one who can promote

928
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,000
us.

929
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:46,900
And unless we get it at the hand

930
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,560
of the Lord, we have entered into an

931
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,160
adulterous relationship.

932
00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:54,920
When you're looking to man, when you're looking

933
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,440
to business, or when you're looking to politics

934
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,400
or to politicians to help the church in

935
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,320
whichever way, it is adultery.

936
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,580
And I'm going to close with Revelation chapter

937
00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:11,160
18 because this is the continuation.

938
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Do you remember she's called the Babylon and

939
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,400
verse 2 says, and he cried mightily with

940
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,340
a loud voice saying, Babylon the great is

941
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:22,720
fallen and has become a dwelling place of

942
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,680
demons, a prison for every foul spirit and

943
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,780
a cage for every unclean and hated bird.

944
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,820
That's terrible.

945
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,040
But that's the conclusion.

946
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,820
Those who will enter into illicit relationships and

947
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:42,340
become part of the daughters of the harlot

948
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:48,820
will become a habitation for demons, foul spirits

949
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,780
and a cage for every unclean and hated

950
00:44:53,780 --> 00:44:54,280
bird.

951
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,260
For all the nations have drunk of the

952
00:44:57,260 --> 00:44:58,920
wine of the wrath of her fornication.

953
00:44:59,260 --> 00:45:02,340
The kings of the earth have committed fornication

954
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:04,860
with her and the merchants of the earth,

955
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,380
you see business gets into it.

956
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,740
It's all big business today.

957
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,140
The merchants of the earth have become rich

958
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:12,360
through the abundance of her luxury.

959
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,080
And here's the bottom line.

960
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,360
And I heard another voice from heaven saying,

961
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,360
come out of her my people.

962
00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:26,500
Come out of her my people lest you

963
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,260
share in her sins and lest you receive

964
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:32,220
her plagues.

965
00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:35,500
The Lord is preparing for himself a bride

966
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,960
that is without spot and without blemish, that

967
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,560
is pure, that is devoted to him and

968
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,180
loves him and trusts in him alone for

969
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:47,280
everything they need.

970
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,220
Now we've spoken about the church and I'm

971
00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:51,780
a couple of minutes over time.

972
00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:56,240
But I want to ask you personally, who

973
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,640
are you looking to for your help, for

974
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,420
your promotion, for your salvation?

975
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:09,360
Are you looking to money, business, the world?

976
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,360
Are you hoping that the next government will

977
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,580
be a righteous government that will do the

978
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:19,020
things that you want them to do?

979
00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:22,860
Or are you looking to the Lord?

980
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,380
Come out of the world.

981
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:27,880
Forget about the world.

982
00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:30,640
Turn to the Lord Jesus with all your

983
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,040
heart.

984
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:34,000
Build your hope and your confidence and your

985
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,700
faith on him and him alone.

986
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,580
We're living in a time of sifting and

987
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:42,180
God is purifying for himself a people.

988
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,380
But in this process, many are proving to

989
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:47,120
be tares.

990
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,340
Many are proving to not be real children

991
00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:51,040
of God.

992
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:56,240
And they're falling by the wayside, left, right

993
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:56,840
and center.

994
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,900
Oh, may the Lord help us that we

995
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:01,840
may remain true and faithful to him, that

996
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,200
we may come out of the world, that

997
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,460
we may cleave to him.

998
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:07,460
Remember this principle right back in the book

999
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:11,040
of Genesis, that we leave, we cleave.

1000
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,540
Let's leave the world.

1001
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Let's leave Babylon.

1002
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,940
Let's leave false religion.

1003
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,900
Let's leave whatever it is that we're finding

1004
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,080
comfort in out there.

1005
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,820
And let's cleave to the Lord Jesus Christ

1006
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,780
with all of our heart.

1007
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:27,000
Father, I pray that you'd help us.

1008
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,160
Lord, that we may not put our trust

1009
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,920
and our confidence in princes or in horses

1010
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,340
or in the legs of a man.

1011
00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:36,640
But Lord, that we may put our trust

1012
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,260
wholly and totally in you.

1013
00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:41,120
Lord, I pray that you'd help us.

1014
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,620
Lord, that we may get our thinking straight.

1015
00:47:44,540 --> 00:47:45,900
Lord, forgive us for promoting.

1016
00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:47,600
And Lord, there are those who may be

1017
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,840
watching today who've been promoting some political party

1018
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,960
or some politician.

1019
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,660
Forgive us, Lord, that we may be those

1020
00:47:56,660 --> 00:47:58,100
who are known that we promote the Lord

1021
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,280
Jesus Christ and the gospel of salvation.

1022
00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:03,480
And that is what we are known as.

1023
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,160
We're Christians.

1024
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,560
We're followers of Jesus.

1025
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,580
We're not conservatives or liberals or democrats or

1026
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:12,420
republicans.

1027
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:14,120
We are born again.

1028
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,860
We are his children and his people.

1029
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,620
And we receive from his hand alone.

1030
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,860
We pray that you'd help us, Lord.

1031
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,500
Pray that you'd burn this message into our

1032
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:25,880
hearts.

1033
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,280
Lord, that you would change the attitude and

1034
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,720
the mind of so many Christians who've been

1035
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,740
caught up in the politics of this time.

1036
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:36,840
And Lord, that we may be caught up

1037
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,660
in our relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

1038
00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:42,520
We ask these things in Jesus' name.

1039
00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:43,800
Amen.

1040
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:02,420
Amen.
