Thank you Lord, you have fallen.
Long ago you fell, at Pentecost.
And you've remained there where you always were,
in the hearts of those who see Jesus
by you.
So as you said, you are the well
in us, and you're the rivers through us.
So thank you.
And we just, along with you now, in
what you're saying, doing, working among us, every
moment of the day, not only in these
sessions, but when we're eating and talking, praying
and praising, and enjoying together.
Thank you for your living self, Lord Jesus
Christ.
Amen.
Now we're seeking to continue this morning from
where we left off yesterday.
Today, as I say, the only way I
know how to share what God has given
me to share, is by a process of
continuity, moving from one session to another, to
another.
I say to you, my usual calling is
not the public ministry like this, I'm usually
more in groups, because I like rap sessions.
I like to get back as much as
I give.
And so I welcome anyone to come and
say, hi, I'm sure you're wrong.
And I say, of course I know you
were, but I'll just permit you.
We'll just do that later on.
I knew I should get complaints for being
British and too quick.
Well, I can't help being British.
As for being too quick, I always understood
God could do anything, except slow me down.
So there we are.
Now we were led yesterday to some, what
I understand to be, from God's words, some
tremendous facts.
The whole universe is one, because he is
one, and the whole universe is he expressed
in multitudinous forms, one living person through multitudinous
manifestations.
And this further revelation, he is only love,
so everything is love.
Everything is forms of perfection.
Even if we mess him up, he reforms
into perfection.
That's what he came by his son to
do, moving into the ultimate perfection.
But we're able to see perfection now.
We're seeing him with perfect love, in perfect
operation, in all forms, in all ways.
So we saw this as our tremendous basis.
We deal with only one.
But because, as the scripture says, he is
eternal, immortal, invisible, he can't be manifested except
by manifested form.
So from eternity, in his own trinity, he
has his own son, who is the manifested
father, the manifested God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
As he moves down to our level, he
can move us up to his level.
And we're able to know the father through
the son.
And as we saw further, he continues to
complete his eternal purposes through his son and
sons.
They become the agents by whom the spirit
reproduces, father, son, spirit.
The spirit brings, through the word of faith
of the son, reproductions into being.
This creation is the first we know of.
And the marvel we saw is that it
always had been his purpose.
Through his son, there should come into being
a family of sons, who'd level up with
his son.
Fantastic.
Created, leveling up with the creator.
And forming one in million form of sons.
Sons of persons.
Living persons as the fathers of living persons,
who by their living personality would express him.
Because of tremendous significance of being on the
manifested level, the agent of manifestation, is that
the eternal one, the universal, is only seen
by manifested form.
It's never seen any other way.
You never see electricity except by that.
You never see electricity except by heat.
You never see it.
You see it by its form.
You never see the atom, you only see
its forms.
And you never see the living God, except
by his sons.
By his son, and then his sons.
And no other way would this living person
ever be manifested in the world.
That's why Paul said in Romans 8, The
groaning creation waits for the manifestation of the
sons of God, not the son of God.
Not the father.
Waits for its deliverance, it should be brought
into the glorious liberty of the children of
God by the manifestation of the sons of
God.
Because the sons are the only means by
which the father manifests himself and reproduces his
own love purposes.
That's a tremendous thing to be a person.
And when, as we saw, our destiny is
to be co-persons from eternity, to be
co-owners, and therefore co-developers, and co
-managers of God's universe.
So it's a very responsible thing, as well
as a very wonderful thing to be a
person.
And then we further saw that the key
to be a God person is to be
a love person.
Because that's all he is.
John said the final word when he said,
God is love.
That's all he is, nothing else.
Every single thing he is, has, does, is
some form of perfect love.
We said yesterday, we always get out of
tune.
We question what kind of person God is,
in situations.
Why he does so and so.
When we say, God, you're perfect, what you
do is perfect, I can't understand what you're
doing, but it's okay.
The light's shining.
Therefore we saw, this is the necessary settlement,
the eternal settlement of the character of the
person.
The person of whom the whole universe is
to form, is nothing but love.
The nature of him in his own deity
-manifested form, the son, is nothing but love.
That's why we always know what the father's
like, because he saw what the son was
like on earth, thank God.
And therefore the co-sons must be as
perteniously, the same kind of sons as the
son.
And the son is a pertenious expression of
the love father.
So he's a lover son, as his father's
a lover father.
And therefore we are in tune, in focus,
down here, and from eternity, when we've begun
to be lover people, and learn what it
is to be lover people, our trouble is
we don't understand who we are, that's our
trouble.
Most of our trouble is misunderstanding.
We are possessing our possessions.
Knowing what it is to be, and operate
as, and affirm we are lover sons on
earth, in preparation for being, that would be
our spontaneous being, because our being then is
a union.
Our being then is God, joined to us,
expressed by us, it's spontaneity.
That's our permanent basis.
So we're spontaneously expressions of him with love,
he's lover, so we're lovers.
Then we're safe.
Just as the whole universe is safe, because
the God is a safe God, because he's
a lover God.
Kings and rulers and people down here are
not safe when they're, all through history, self
-loving people, so you get chaos.
When the ruler is another person, that which
he manages, those who he manages, move into
harmony.
And so this whole universe would be a
harmonious universe, because he has spontaneously millions of
us, co-lovers, co-manifesters of what he
is, co-developers, whatever that means, with his
own son.
So we saw that the next stage
of fundamental importance is for us to know
what it is to be the person we
really are and being.
What it is to be a person and
to be that person, and then to function
as that person.
So that's what we're talking about these days.
What is it to be the person, be
that person, and then function as that person.
That's yourself, that's all, and yourself as the
real self.
That's all we were talking about yesterday, that
new man.
Then we saw, we're really only, I'd say,
talking still on foundations this morning.
I shan't actually get on as far as
I'm concerned, the practical application to our daily
lives, about tomorrow, but we're still laying the
foundations.
We saw this, perhaps usually unnoticed fact, that
you can never be a competent person in
anything until you first learn how not to
do it, before you know how to do
it.
Because all life has this strange basis, it's
only manifestable, it's only a conscious act because
it has two sides to it, because it
has its opposites.
You cannot have light without knowing there's dark.
You can't have sweet without knowing there's bitter.
You can't have yes without knowing there's no.
As I said yesterday, you come here because
you're a cog that knows.
You're a yes cog that knows.
You started, no, no, no, I can't, I'm
too busy.
Finally you say, yes, I will, and your
yes swallows up your nose.
Yes, he would only have a strong yes
because he's had a good meal of nose,
that's all.
So life cannot be any other way.
That is the meaning of being, as I
say.
So we saw yesterday, we have to say
that living God is a person who has
conquered the opposite.
He cannot lie.
If he's a person he could, unless some
fixation has taken place by which something by
his own free choice, he cannot.
That's what choice does, it fixes you in
the one.
The one swallows up the other.
And that's the whole purpose of a person,
to discover why it is to be a
fixed person, and to be that fixed person.
That's why I always love that cry of
the psalmist, Oh God, my heart is fixed.
My heart is fixed, I will sing praise.
And we are fixed if we know it
now, if we are redeemed.
We just haven't discovered how fixed we are,
that's all.
So it's phases and phases of rediscovery we
need, that's all.
But now, as I say, a person isn't
fixed in the positive until he's fixed in
the negative.
That's what training is, that's what graduation is.
Nobody is fixed as a carpenter, or a
plumber, or an electrician, or a doctor, or
a lawyer, until he first says, I don't
teach it that way.
I don't handle my electrical things that way.
I don't handle my tools that way.
It becomes fixed with, ah yeah, that's right,
I've settled, I don't do it that way.
In general speaking, he's discarded the wrong ways.
We all can make mistakes, we humans, and
we all have more to learn, but generally
speaking, we discard the wrong ways, and we're
confident we're able to handle our situations.
That's being fixed.
Always on the inner level.
Because to make consciousness, all you are is
a consciousness.
All you are is the spirit, which is
I am.
All I am is a consciousness.
And all operation is from the consciousness, which
is I am.
I desire, I know, I will, all rest
falls.
So everything is your consciousness.
A carpenter doesn't operate by his outer tools.
He operates by his consciousness.
Oh, I know how to use that, his
tools are the agents of his consciousness.
Oh, I know how to do that.
From the knowing comes the operation.
Nothing's ever done from outside, because we're never
outside people.
That's why outside religion is no good.
That's why God has to destroy it.
There's a great deal of good came in
communism, by destroying external forms of ritualism.
God has to use negatives to handle positives.
Destroy external forms of outer gods.
That's no good, but it is no good
either.
It's only when the outer gods become the
inner gods, it's any good.
It's only when the outer Jesus is the
inner Jesus, it's any good.
Only when the outer world is the inner
world, it's any good.
Because I'm only a person of my consciousness.
So on every level of life you operate,
not from your tools, not from your outer
knowledge.
You operate by that which has become you.
Now you are operating from the inside you,
expressing it through your tools and agencies and
so on.
So we saw that the central inner consciousness,
the central being of the universe, fixed in
love and can be nothing else.
It's tremendous.
It has a purpose in creating people like
himself, made in his image, spirit, spirit, united
spirit, possible spirits like himself, who can be
co-fixed with him.
And as the Bible says, co-gods with
him, or co-operators with him, in whatever
there is to be done, in whatever there
is in the eternal development of the universe,
by his sons, that's it.
So you see, it's the same as, you
don't become fixed as a carpenter without training,
or fixed as a doctor, or fixed as
a lawyer, or fixed as a teacher.
We don't become fixed as a person without
training.
We've got to discover personhood and then get
it fixed.
Or, in this case, have it fixed for
us.
And then only can we move on competently,
from whom I am to being who I
am, and functioning as who I am.
And that's the history of the human family.
And it's always been in God's purpose.
God wasn't fooled by the sudden discovery about
the devil or Ford.
He meant it to be.
He had to be.
So because we had become unhealthily healthy, you
have to be unhealthy before you're healthy.
So we had to be unhealthy sinners before
we're healthy saints.
Had to be.
It's all part of eternal purpose.
I proved it to you yesterday.
I said the Bible said, he foreordained his
son to be a sacrifice for a lost
world, before there was a lost world.
So he knew all about the lost world
coming before it started.
That's the perfect God.
You can't fool him.
Heads he wins, tails he loses.
We lose every time.
We are.
Praise God.
So it's clear.
So there had to be a Garden of
Eden.
There had to be alternative trees.
And that naughty God stuck a serpent in
one of them.
Rather naughty of him, wasn't he?
He might have left the wrong tree in
the serpent's house.
Just left the right tree.
We all need the right tree to be
a bunch of babies.
God doesn't want a bunch of babies who
just know things unconsciously.
He wants people who know consciously who they
are and function as such.
You only know consciously by finding out.
That's why there are the three stages you
have to pass through.
What John says, we discuss as we go
on.
From infancy, to adolescence, to adulthood.
Little children, young men, fathers.
A little child is unconscious.
A little child is very precious because he
can't manage the world.
And so if there had been one tree,
it would be useless.
We should just be unconscious beings.
Consciousness came by the opposite.
Consciousness came by all is yours.
Adam and Eve, all is yours.
I'm your father.
How did you sit unconscious?
Like a child, automatically receives from his parents.
It's all yours.
But one thing, don't touch that one.
Had to be.
And behind the don't touch that one was
this person who did that kind of thing.
Satan.
Now we don't know very much about him,
except he revealed to us that he was
a person who consciously rejected being another lover.
Became a self-lover.
We're just told a little about him in
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.
They're the two key passages.
When he was made as probably God's highest
creation.
But as a free person, he was to
be a light bearer.
I say it was Lucifer, which is the
Latin for bearing light.
He was to be an expression of him
who is a light, which reveals him who
is a love.
That's what we are.
Lambs that reveal lights.
Now I'm not being there.
I'm a free person.
I'm beautiful.
I have infinite capacity.
I'll be for myself.
In fact, I'll kick him out and take
his place.
That's Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.
Ezekiel 28 is his beauty.
Isaiah 14 is his purpose to take God's
place.
So he did take God's place as a
false god.
That's the blindness in which we live.
If the light in you is darkness, how
great is that darkness?
We live in light and think it's light
and it's only dark.
That's the self-centered world.
If the light within you is darkness, how
great is that darkness?
So self-centeredness has become a false light.
Where we've been living until we've been disillusioned,
thank God.
So that's what started.
And God used him.
Now get this into...
Satan's a convenient agent.
Don't fuss about Satan.
Thank God for him, sir.
Satan's always God's convenient agent.
God uses him for better purposes.
Whenever you see Satan turn up, say, OK,
Satan, you come in one way.
I'm going to watch you go out seven
ways now.
Have fun.
Have faith.
Don't fuss about Satan.
He's God's convenient agent.
We shall see what goes on.
What useful things God's done in the world
through Satan.
And it still is.
He got you saved through Satan.
If Satan hadn't got you lost, you wouldn't
get saved, would you?
So you'd better get...
So you'd better get him praise meeting with
Satan.
And this is the first way he used
him.
To get man into focus on the negative.
So he used Satan to endorse Adam and
Eve.
We poor men always have followed women all
our lives.
We just do what the women do.
So it starts with Eve, as usual.
You didn't clap that one.
And so Satan got her.
Oh, this tree is very nice.
What?
This tree is very nice.
It's a tree they shouldn't have.
Oh, there's something in it, you see.
I shouldn't have it, but it's very nice.
Now that's the only way in which we
can discover being persons.
To discover being persons, I've got to discover
I have appetite.
I have sight.
I have mental ability.
Tremendous.
We, like God, have tremendous potential.
We have to discover we've got it.
We can only discover it by being tempted
to be something for ourselves.
So it had to come that way.
It had to be somebody who said to
us, Hi, you should be able to eat
that tree.
Oh, I'd like to.
I've got appetite.
I'd like to.
Look to me, it'll taste nice.
I've got appetite.
Come on, let's taste them.
Beautiful.
I've never saw beauty before.
Oh, my eyes are open.
Endless beauty.
Of course, for self reasons.
But the point is, to discover they had
the capacity of art and science and what
comes through the eye gate and through what
comes through the flesh.
Oh, the flesh is beautiful.
Don't allow flesh to die.
It's only its misuse that's wrong.
It's God's precious agent.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
He didn't come in the sinful flesh.
He came in the flesh.
It's only the sinful part of the flesh.
It's not the flesh which is wrong.
So the appetite factor is a mind.
Satan says, you've got a mind.
I said, yes, my, I have.
And so they began to discover personality had
to be.
So they couldn't discover personality except it had
to be for themselves.
Now, we had to be for ourselves but
put ourselves back into focus and then be
ourselves on a new level.
That's what life is, to be for yourself.
It's what it is, in the right relationship.
And then you can't be yourself under new
motivation.
And so they had this temptation and then
they went all the way.
They didn't know much more.
It was mainly ignorance.
You know, God's so beautiful.
God doesn't throw sticks and bombs at his
precious people.
He never judges them.
He just told them they're silly, that's all.
He didn't judge them.
He judged Satan.
When the animal evil fell, it wasn't God
that hid.
It was Satan that hid.
God never hides.
There's no wrath in God.
There's no judgment in God.
There's no guilt in us.
We project it onto God.
It wasn't God who hid in the garden.
It wasn't the animal evil who hid.
God called him out, came in the cool
of the day and called him out.
He said he was hiding.
God said, come out, you silly fellow.
I'll talk to you.
But he got him out.
He never said one judge, a man or
woman.
He judged Satan.
He said, you're the curse.
You eat dust.
You're symbolically.
That's spiritual self-sufficiency.
That's hell.
That's the curse.
Spiritual self-sufficiency.
A few dear people, you'll have some sorrow.
That's all he offered.
Sorrow.
Sorrow is a reaction to suffering.
So he says, things will go wrong and
those things that go wrong will make you
feel uncomfortable.
Thank God you'll be uncomfortable.
If we weren't first uncomfortable, we shouldn't get
comfort in Jesus.
So he said, you'll be made sorrowful.
As all he said, you'll have sorrow because
certain things in life will happen to you
we don't like.
That's all God gave.
He's always on the side of man.
At the same time, he says, already there's
a hidden seed you can find, which is
Christ.
Christ was always there.
Christ was the Lamb saved from the foundation
of the world.
Revelation says, he was always there.
Like a seed form.
So you can find Christ.
Abel found him.
Probably Adam found him.
Seth found him.
They found him.
He was there to be found.
Lots of you will find you've found Christ
with me as known to come out the
way we came.
That's the way, you see, he's always like
that.
So, you see, this is tremendous.
This world.
We had to go wrong.
Thoroughly wrong.
We had to become captives of this spirit
of self-centeredness.
You see, humans are captives.
Humans are manifestors.
We are never anything by ourselves.
We are manifestors of a deity.
That's why the Bible calls us vessels.
The Bible says every human being is either
a vessel of wrath, you say wrath or
something but I say wrath the best I
can get.
A vessel of wrath or a vessel of
mercy.
The vessel is a container.
We are containers of a God to whom
wrath comes.
Or we are containers of a God to
whom mercy comes.
The container doesn't change.
All the gospel is changing God's inside, that's
all.
It isn't the change of us.
The change of the God that motivates us,
that's all.
Because we are always God-motivated.
What happened at the fore was we became
motivated by the false God.
He didn't make us.
He only stole us.
He was only a thief.
We always did belong to God.
Our very being was in God.
That's why people know how to respond to
God.
Thank God they do.
The being of every person.
I've been in a mission in Africa.
I know in the Africans there's always a
spiritual response.
Everybody, you around the world, you know about
the role of the world.
There's a spirit everywhere.
Because we're in His being.
So basically Satan simply stole us and distorted
us, that's all.
But he captures made us slaves.
And so in that slavery we went the
self way.
The self-centered, self-seeking, self-gratifying, self
-affirming way.
And thank God gradually, by this way, by
this knock and that knock we find it
doesn't work.
We get disillusioned.
If you're a redeemed person here you've been
a disillusioned person, haven't you?
It's been a rock-bottom disillusion.
You found that old life's wrong.
Not outside you.
It helped by being told before you're inside.
Inside you find, I'm a wrong person.
I'm away from God.
I'm in no peace.
I'm living a rotten life.
I'm doing rotten things I shouldn't do.
There's something wrong with me.
God have mercy on me.
There isn't a person here who's been redeemed
who didn't first say, I'm a wrong person,
have mercy on me.
Not because of outer forms.
May have come through outer forms but by
inner consciousness.
So that's been the whole purpose.
Thank God.
Because we couldn't be right unless we'd first
been wrong.
Because we might go do it again.
You see, if you've been in a thoroughly
wrong way and you've been torn to pieces
by it and you go out and say,
I'm not going back there again.
Of course, we may visit when there was
looking but we won't live there again.
Difference, you see what I mean?
If you're born again you will never go
back.
You can't go back.
I'll tell you why later on.
As I say, we may visit when there
was looking but you won't live there any
longer.
I don't mind paying visits as long as
I don't live.
I can see my English doesn't get a
course so you don't get the point but
it's a pretty good point.
So you see, if you're a redeemed person
you've been basically a disillusioned person.
You've had to be wrong and known you
were wrong and been disgusted with it and
cried for mercy and whatever form it takes,
whether towards yourself, towards other people, towards God.
Somewhere, if it likes to mean anything you've
got to find the change.
Now how can the change take place?
That's what sends us everything in the sun.
The sun.
Everything.
Because slaves can't redeem slaves.
Slaves can't redeem slaves.
We're a captive race.
Slaves can't receive slaves.
A slave may express a little freedom in
trying to be somebody else.
Like we, in our unsaved days, tried a
little to be good.
That didn't make us good.
We just tried and came back where we
belonged and we came.
Slaves have little freedom they can express for
their slaves.
Can't get out.
Slavery.
This has been the eternal purpose of the
father from eternity.
That his son should be the head of
the true race.
The head of the eternal family.
The founder, source and head brother of the
family of the spirit dimension.
Because the old family is a flesh dimension.
Flesh is good, only misused.
It's been misused.
It's a precious flesh.
It's to be redeemed flesh now.
We'd have redeemed bodies.
But it's been a misused flesh.
It's so our flesh and so our agreement
with our flesh we've gone these other ways.
So we've been a flesh people and after
that marvels come.
Look at this universe.
Look at this world.
Marvels come out of fallen men.
Look at the marvels of invention and investigation.
If that comes out of fallen men what's
got to come out of unfallen men?
When the whole son family is in full
redemption.
So this was the situation.
Now this is where the only person who
could redeem us was a person who had
a claim on us who had a basic
relationship with us and could do something for
us we couldn't do for ourselves.
And the one person who could do that
was our creator.
He who created us.
He who we belong to.
He could do something for us.
That's the Lord Jesus Christ.
So there's no way in which the human
race could be redeemed from slavery unless there
was one who was our basic creator created
our spirits and our souls and bodies who
in some way could represent us and get
us out of our bondage.
That's what Jesus Christ did.
Our history and glory and our songs for
eternity is the Lamb that was slain.
The Lord Jesus Christ was crucified and risen.
So that's why to my mind the supreme
title for him is the last Adam.
It only comes in that form actually once.
It's implied in Romans 5.
It's said you can go to Romans 15.
In 1 Corinthians 15.
The last Adam.
Why?
Adam's head of a race.
Adam's a progenitor.
We're all reproductions of the flesh Adams.
We're flesh people.
Came under the slain slavery our father had
for good purposes.
We had to learn the slavery before we
learned the freedom.
That's alright.
But he's the last Adam.
He's taken the place.
The first Adam in the Bible is only
called a figure.
Only a shadow.
The last Adam is the real Adam.
Spirit is real.
This is figure.
This is shadow.
We've got to get out of living on
a shadow relationship to reality.
Spiritist relationship.
This is this one.
He came to bring into being the human
family on his true spirit dimension.
God dimension.
He did that by becoming one of us.
Becoming an ordinary human.
That's why we always preserve the incarnation.
The Bible never says the key to your
faith is the cross.
The key to your faith is did Jesus
Christ come in the flesh?
That's one John.
That's the key test of a person.
If he's a believer he says Jesus Christ
God's son became a flesh Christ.
A human being.
Incarnation.
So we're faced with a unique person.
He was us but he wasn't us.
He was a unique son.
So he never touches uniqueness.
He's the creator's son.
We're the creator's sons.
He's the deity's son.
We're the kind of I don't want to
call it because we move migration onto the
level of brotherhood.
I suppose that's the best I can say.
Now we all know what he did.
The first time he had the prudence of
a true human to be hit by all
humanity as a hit.
So he was hit by the devil.
Not only in the 40 days all the
time.
But the devil was never getting inside him.
You are an inner consciousness not an outer
person.
Anybody can do anything on the outer it's
how you take it matters.
We'll talk about that later on.
All life is how you see it and
take it not how it happens to you.
You manage life because you manage it as
you see it and take it from within.
That's how you are.
And so Satan could never get Jesus because
he couldn't get him inside.
When he tempted Jesus oh no my wordly
father he was he always was a a
vessel of his father not a vessel of
God a vessel of mercy he always had
the living God inside him.
So he could be hit Satan could hit
him every way outside couldn't touch him inside.
But he was a real man and went
through everything we go through.
Then he came to the final end.
We call the final end death.
The real final end is hell.
Don't be too body minded don't be too
much of a body fusser.
Who cares about your body get a new
one quick.
Don't be so busy keeping people on the
earth hurry them up to heaven.
In our mission we always have a congratulation
when someone dies for Jesus.
We sing your dance when people die because
they've gone on to be real people.
We don't say oh dear dear dear we
say praise God you've gone may I follow
you quickly.
So don't be body fussers.
Be spirit enjoyers.
And don't take too much fuss about your
body.
Praise the Lord anyhow as long as the
spirit shines out that's what matters.
As long as the spirit shines out.
If a person is sick help them to
be sure one thing they are praising Jesus.
If they get praising Jesus they will probably
get healed quicker too.
Death, physical death isn't the point.
Destiny is the point.
Death is part of this corruption ended in
death that's not the point destiny is the
point.
This dies, where does this go?
And that's why the Bible again says we
are spirits.
Because the Bible says there are two ways.
For the unredeemed the spirit in prison to
whom Jesus went to preach.
The redeemed spirits have just been made perfect.
Hebrews 12.
So you see it's destiny.
Now that's seriousness.
That's the seriousness of the blood of Christ.
That's the blood of Christ and the body
of Christ.
That's where they are subdivided in the Lord's
Supper.
The blood of Christ and the body of
Christ with two vitally important meanings to them.
The blood of Christ was his own blood.
That's himself.
That person uniquely risked hell for us.
That's where he went.
Suffered on the cross?
I think we make too much of the
sufferings of Christ.
We should see the glory there.
He saw glory in it.
They saw glory and they saw a king
up there.
You see faith transcends suffering.
Jesus never acted as a sufferer on the
cross.
Think of a person in that agony considering
did they mean it.
Isn't that beautiful?
In that agony they didn't mean it Father.
Those soldiers didn't know what they were doing.
They didn't mean it.
Forgive them.
Isn't that beautiful?
Isn't that seeing God's beauty in everybody?
Forgive them Father.
They didn't know what they were doing.
They were just in their duty to crucify
me.
It wasn't his crucifixion bothering him.
It was those that God shouldn't those people
out there should have their forgiveness.
Isn't that beautiful?
See it wasn't his physical He transcended his
physical in the glory.
So I think I think we shouldn't make
glorify the misery we should make it a
praise.
Not the Easter Sunday.
Because that teaches us praise in your sufferings
that's our glory.
We won't be able to praise in our
sufferings.
That's our glory.
No one's thinking how to do it.
And so he went that wasn't the problem.
The problem was he went to hell.
Now I don't know.
But he had to walk by faith as
we did.
And he might might he well be he
might have said and he might remain there.
See he represented the whole sins the products
the consequences the sins of the world.
The consequences of the sins of the world
is our guilt the wrath the judgement the
eternal destiny.
That's the point of our sins.
The things we've done.
He bore our sins.
That's not our sin.
That's different.
I'm talking about our sins.
Sins are the product.
Sin is the producing principle.
That's different.
He bore our sins.
And our sins take us into guilt into
judgement into wrath into hell.
And the Bible simply says if you are
fixed in that condition that's why it does.
That's the blood of Christ.
The blood of Christ was the blood symbolised
outpoured life.
That he really did die.
When your blood is gone you're dead.
So it's a symbol to us that he
really did die.
He didn't die physically.
I mean he did but physical body died
he went to hell.
That's the first thing Peter said in the
great speech after Pentecost.
Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell.
So he must really have settled in hell
if he wasn't even left there at some
point.
Jesus Christ went to hell.
He went where you and I are destined
to go.
That's the risk he took.
I took quite a risk.
He had all my faith.
Could it be he'd be left there on
our behalf?
Of course he couldn't be he didn't belong
there.
Satan had no control over him.
So as I was saying a sin race
with its sins staying its sin guilt its
sin wrath its sins judgement its sins destiny
all those sins represented he came out left
them behind.
He shut that door of hell for all
who received him.
For the whole human race the world was
reconciled unto him.
Except they hadn't found out that's all.
This gospel had been a world gospel.
There's never been a little bit few Christian
gospels but a world gospel.
Of the world so we might be saved.
Reconciled the world unto him.
I love the world mindedness you get in
the in the both the gospel of John
and the epistle of John.
And so in that one act he wiped
out all that would come to us out
of our guilt a condemnation wrath judgement don't
have any of it.
You sin by retaining any sense of guilt
or wrath or judgement about you.
Your fast is is out of sight it's
out of God's sight it's out of your
sight we'll leave it out of sight.
If it's as far as from the East
as from the West that's a pretty good
distance I reckon.
If it's the depths of the sea they're
trying to find power or something down there
and they're having a hard work.
The strong terms he was God wiped the
thing it's wiped out.
That's the precious blood of Christ.
Sometimes people sort of squirm at the blood
they don't understand they don't mean it.
Like a Mohammed I worked among Mohammedans they
don't understand they've got a prejudiced idea of
Jesus Christ so they skit on him.
They're not to blame for that they don't
understand the perfect Jesus we mean.
They've got distorted images.
There are some people who sort of say
they squirm at the blood they don't understand
the preciousness.
It's a symbol of this God-life outpoured
went where I should go to cut me
off sight never need go I never had
the guilt or the wrath or judgement which
belongs there it's out.
That's the the death and resurrection of Jesus
on that level.
The other level is the crucified body.
Now that's very remarkable.
We do not participate in the blood that's
his blood we do participate in the body.
That's why in communion it says you take
communion with the mother of Christ yes you
take it recognising his blood shed for you
you participate in the body for we being
one bread one body we participate in the
body.
Why?
Because we are that body.
Now that's great significance we are that body.
How do I know we are that body?
The Bible says you were crucified with Christ
you were buried with him you were risen
with him you were sent with him that's
why all those Romans and Galatians comes up
again and again Colossians all those those letters.
Now we were there why?
Because you see our bodies contain the sin
principle.
Sins were the products which came out the
hates, fears, lies all these things for which
we've broken the law for which there was
a judgement and wrath and all that.
Christ has become the end of the law
wiped it out or become the completion of
the law shall we say so we know
what that left.
Now that's not our problem our problem isn't
the product it's the producer our problem is
the motivation which causes me to be self
-centred out of my self-centredness comes my
hates and my fears and my lust and
so on they are products what matters is
motivation in the body.
Now that's sin in the body sin is
the principle of self-centredness it's really another
term for Satan love is it's another term
for love is God of course it's the
principle of being which is God's being and
sin self-centredness is the principle of false
being which is Satan's being so you may
speak of the spirit it speaks to the
spirit of the principle of how the error
was in us speaks to one of the
spirit in error call him sin call him
spirit it doesn't matter that's the person who's
possessed us through the fall we are vessels
with a wrong owner in us that owner
went out in the death and resurrection of
the body of Jesus see the body contains
the owner now that body represents us we
were crucified we were died we were buried
a dead body has no spirit in it
and when that dead body laid it says
we were buried with him there was no
longer left the spirit of self-centredness which
grabbed us and saved us that's the completion
out that went it's that empty dead body
put to death in the flesh quickened by
the spirit in 1 Peter 3 now into
that dead body came the new spirit his
spirit here's the fixation of the spirit of
self-giving love taking the place of the
spirit of self-loving love that's the gospel
that both removes what should come to us
as a consequence of our sin our sin
life wrath judgment so and so and it
changes our condition which Lola was bringing out
so beautifully yesterday changed our condition which we
put off the old man put on the
new man we've got to understand a little
more what that means so the gospel means
out goes hell and the wrath and the
judgment and the fear of death and the
condemnation and all that not there we become
precious in God's sight see yourself you're perfectly
precious God delights in you I have a
laugh always think God delights in me he
says he does so he does and when
I look down on you I say well
he makes pretty poor choices somehow that's his
business not mine if he loves you OK
I'll love you too so there he has
he's precious precious don't downgrade yourself when you
cease to downgrade yourself don't downgrade your neighbour
upgrade yourself you're precious every bit of you
is precious cut out taken out that old
spirit out and the stain's gone in Jesus
Christ raised again now there are now we
come back to ourselves we begin to be
little ourselves there are certain phases of consciousness
which have to become us like any person
being educated in a profession you learn phases
oh I've got it I know I'll do
it I know I'll do it that's consciousness
there are certain phases the Bible puts them
as a three-fold set I'll quote it
to you the Bible says you start as
a little kid little children you go on
to an adolescent who's found his own abilities
that's the firmament of adolescence a young man
you go into fatherhood when you're reproducing bringing
out to the world there are three phases
crucifixion resurrection ascension Romans 1-5 Romans 6
-8 Romans 9-16 and all these things
all through the Bible so now we're back
on a person now the royalty of a
person is my ability to choose now the
simplest word for choice is faith it's unfortunate
and that's why new translations are good that
we tighten up religious words and make them
have religious connotations so we've put little things
into a little framework faith is a universal
action of the personality the only action of
the personality the only basic action of the
few is faith because faith isn't some religious
idea faith is your inner capacity for choice
with the heart man believes with the mind
you can accept you've got to stop there
I agree with that but you don't operate
on your mind you operate your inner self
which really we use the word choose which
put yourself to something that faith you put
yourself to something look here you didn't come
here by your thinking you had to have
thoughts you were invited and here's the place
and so on what did you do?
you came because you chose you said I'll
come you didn't come here by your body
you came here by your choice your automobile
or your airplane just bought your faith that's
all because faith is a tremendous it's the
capacity for choice but that's the moment of
choice that's the word of faith you say
I'll do that I'll take that I'll go
there all life is that a word is
a person in action a word is a
person in action a word of faith everything
you do comes out of a word and
that becomes an act on earth and you
take it and the law of faith is
that's how you get experience alright now here's
some food well you believe in it you
see it that's alright that's a limit that's
good enough you believe in it and see
it I think we're pretty eager in going
farther over here lining up and taking rather
enjoy it don't we we take it you
don't take it of your body you take
it because you choose to take it oh
I'm going to have that inwardly you've chosen
you're going to take this now what happens
poor you you're thinking about what you take
if you have that tummy ache it's your
fault for eating too much that's all your
food takes you the law of experience is
the takers took them what you take takes
you all life is that all life is
you're taken over by that which you take
you come here well you take instead of
staying at home or going to some other
job you take coming here alright you take
coming I'll come you come it's got you
now you're here stuck here for a few
more days of course the basic idea is
because you freely choose you like to be
taken over so everyone's a slave to their
choices because you freely choose you're meant to
like it doesn't always work out quite like
that on earth you're meant to so you
enjoy being here because you chose to it's
taken you over so all eternally is being
is freely through your mind come now it
really takes lots of things lots of things
temporarily or for longer times you're taken over
what you take now the supreme moment in
your human history beyond which higher than which
we'll never go is when you and I
voluntarily transferred our capacity of taking from things
material to a person who's immaterial from matter
to spirit now you see even your religion
can be made that's why I say this
book can't save you until it becomes a
person inside you it can only lead you
you can't save by a book you're saved
by receiving a person through the book and
that person becomes you you're saved by the
person not the book the words I speak
are to their spirit their life nothing outside
you takes you that's why outside religion's got
to go that's why I say it's quite
good in many ways that communism blew up
false professions of religion in Russia to start
again communism has shaken us back to proper
faith we owe that to the devil from
communism shaken us back to find a real
faith instead of phony externally ritualistic stuff I
don't say it's the place for some ritualism
but you know it can eat you up
so you see the outside because you're never
held by the outside you're only held by
what you're inside nothing otherwise ever holds you
neither this world or any other world now
then what did we do in this moment
of choice you've become some way or another
disillusioned with your present condition that's the word
probably of the gospel or perhaps exalted by
other people you felt they got something you
hadn't got you were missing something there was
a defeat and a hate and a fear
and a strain and wrong things in your
life whatever form it took you felt you
were a wrong person somewhere out from God
somewhere now that was your disturbed background now
that disturbed your faith up to that time
you tried to have a faith in your
present condition you tried to laugh it off
we try to laugh life off last fun
but often behind laugh is a horror ring
underneath is a torn up person's side you
try to laugh it off or you try
to philosophise you go oh I don't believe
that stuff or you've tried to have some
outer religion oh I'm a church person I've
been baptised and so on you try but
all that's outer stuff and somehow that's not
settling you that's not satisfying you that's why
you're here something's wrong so you've had the
disillusioned faith you've had a material faith on
a philosophy on a religion or maybe on
your good works on your good resolution or
on your bad works and the bad way
you've been and the wrong things all that
that's been shaken up in the that upon
which your faith has centred now that's been
shaken up that's not good enough but where
else can I believe?
now this is the critical moment when you
turn to the Jesus Christ to say that
he was the Bible that's why we have
the word of God that's why we have
the gospel that's why we have the witness
to show us him the son who became
one of us and then went through a
process of redemption we didn't understand all the
Bible when we first come to him and
held up again we have this person the
critical moment is you try to follow your
faith not to crucify Jesus but to risen
Jesus you see crucifixion is history anybody can
believe a crucified Jesus just in history you
can't believe a risen Jesus in history that's
beyond history that's the new dimension the risen
Jesus is the spirit dimension and you're never
saved just by seeing a Christ who died
well you may in the evening or so
but I mean generally speaking you're not saved
by believing a Christ who died you're saved
by perceiving the Lord Jesus Christ as alive
and that means you've moved into the spirit
dimension you've dared now for the first time
in your human history to attach your inner
diversity of choice to one you can't see
can't face can't touch can't hear but something
in you sets you this is the one
this is the son of God died for
me rose again loves me accepts me gives
me puts me in the family of God
this is what I receive so faith means
somewhere along the line you're consciously related to
yourself to this one who did die who
does arrive who does live and you've moved
in to relate yourself to a person which
is the true dimension which is the spirit
dimension not the earthly now the law of
faith the principle of faith always has the
operation you experience what you take what you
take takes you you move in it takes
you and you experience it it takes you
whether temporarily or permanently now this is this
is the consequence now this is the first
time up to that time your material faith
is just as material as ours you've taken
food there's the food take a chair there's
the chair take here here you are so
you get material evidences of your faith this
is immaterial you're now believing in a person
you can't see you can't feel you can't
touch you can't hear in that sense the
words of God can only guide you you're
receiving him now the material you get into
you is the witness inside you yes he
does love me yes he is my father
now that's the first great reality you'll have
in eternity consciousness is reality and if you're
a born again person that's come into your
heart well he does love me God is
my father Jesus is my saviour he did
change his blood for me he is my
lord a new level of thrill has come
into you a level of light you see
light isn't this this is the external form
God is light light's a person these are
forms of light by which things are materialised
everything is materialised light he is the light
now with our eyes we see light in
certain form with our ears we hear that
it comes in sound form and light comes
in atomic form we touch it so you
touch the outbreaks of light outwardly in all
those forms when you're born again you can
be touched with him who is light and
inward you're conscious now real light is inspiration
real life oh that's it if you're born
again somehow I saw him Jesus does love
me he is my saviour somehow I can't
prove a thing but somewhere inside me there's
my saviour he's all my past there's God
I belong to him he belongs to me
God's my father a thrill has come to
you true light is inspiration and ecstasy and
every born again person is in a permanent
inner ecstasy which may take out of fun
but the ecstasy is there whether the outer
fun is there or not because that's light
true light is a person and we are
part of that person we are the light
we've come into union with him who is
light and we take it oh that's it
how well I know the day oh that's
it I've been brought up a church foe
but the moment came when I had to
receive him as a personal saviour when I
asked him to forgive my sins meaning it
oh that's what the blood means light I
heard about the blood across all my church
days oh that's what it means I saw
oh I don't go to hell then because
of that precious blood now Jesus has become
real to me in my consciousness God's my
father I was in the middle of the
football season as a young man then and
I well remember saying oh dear that's emotion
we English are always afraid of emotion oh
that's emotion to go tomorrow first thing when
I woke up the next morning Jesus Jesus
is my saviour God's my father I'm still
there after millions of years I'm still this
is a permanent thing light is inspirational and
extraordinary now that's it if you're a born
again person you've been taken not you took
in your need you took him he took
you and you're born again not because you
say I hold him but somehow it's a
deed I don't know how he loves me
I don't know how he's forgiven me I
don't know how he's my saviour something's happened
in you which has settled that's a permanent
consciousness you'll die for that one you'll burn
for that one because this is the new
spirit reality and you moved into the new
spirit dimension now the last thing I'm saying
and I'll have to move on to the
next one tomorrow is this the evidences there
are two evidences which can be handled by
as you like they are peace and love
they both come in the Romans 5 chapter
which explains what you get when you receive
Jesus peace means if you're born again oh
there's nothing that actually is God I'm not
afraid of my sins and hell I'm not
afraid somehow it's right with God peace peace
with God through our Lord Jesus Christ if
you're born again a person has come into
you the peace of God has somehow settled
you up you're happy because God's your father
and you're at peace with God that's your
inner experience that's the first fruit of the
new birth the other I'd say more important
fruit is you can't help it you begin
to love you cannot help it it's not
you loving your love by itself is self
-loving self but into you has come the
spirit of love what happens Romans 5 tells
us it says for God's love God's love
not yours is shed aboard in your heart
by the Holy Spirit giving us and you
can't help beginning to love and every born
again person is a lover you can't help
it because the revelation of Christ in you
you can't oh I can't help loving you
think you're loving it isn't it it's his
love began to operate in you you begin
to love Christ with his own love you
can't help it life is spontaneous it isn't
oh I've got to do it you can't
help it you can't help it you're a
driven poor thing you're a poor driven slave
I've been trying to wriggle out for 40
years and can't wriggle out anyhow once you're
caught there's no escape you see now that's
the proof you become a lover now you
don't know much about it yet but you've
begun to be a lover son he first
loved you you love and this is the
evidence you're a new person the first baby
evidence you have peace and you've got to
be a lover and you can't help it
you begin to love him who died for
you and then you want to tell your
friends you've found the secret it's in the
secret of ecstasy and peace within you now
that's just kid stuff that's all I've given
you we'll move on to adolescent stuff next
time where we know because there are problems
it's alright to have love but my point
is oh I'm not such a messy kind
of person to learn how you can be
a Christian and yet a messy person we'll
discuss that oh what shall I do with
this and this and this we'll get down
a little more to earth next time thank
you very much God bless you