In that moment, knowing nothing about the fullness
of the Holy Spirit, everything that I know
He has taught me, everything, believe, everything
I know, yet, four o'clock that
Saturday afternoon, having come to the place in
my life where I surrendered everything, I knew
nothing about the fullness of the Holy Spirit,
I knew nothing about the baptism of the
Holy Spirit, I knew nothing about speaking in
a known tongue, I knew nothing about the
deeper truths of the Word, all that I
knew was that I loved souls.
That's all that I knew, souls, souls, souls.
I only knew that a person would be
lost if they did not accept the Christ
and His favor, that's all that I knew.
In that moment, with the tears streaming down
my face and looking up and bowing, He
and I have made each other promise.
There's some things that you don't talk about,
there's some things that are so sacred, you
just don't talk about those things.
There's just some things that are terrifically personal
between the two of you.
It's like some things, you know, that are
so personal between a husband and a wife,
you just don't display them out in public.
He knows that I'll be true to Him
as long as my whole heart will keep
beating, and I know that
I'll be true to Him.
We have a past, and it was all
settled at the end of a dead-end
street, four o'clock one Saturday afternoon.
And in that moment, when I yielded to
Him, body, soul, and spirit, when I gave
Him everything, all there was of me, I
knew then, beloved, I knew then what that
scripture meant, and you'll never change the meaning
of it.
If any man will follow me, let him
take up his cross, beloved, cross is always
the sign, the symbol of death.
It's a symbol of death.
That afternoon, Catherine Kuhlman died.
I mean died.
Catherine Kuhlman died.
If I were to tell you that I
don't even associate that name with myself, I'll
tell you the truth.
I died.
If you've never had that death to the
flesh, you don't know what I'm talking.
There's some of you who know.
When it comes to the baptism of the
Holy Spirit, I know what I believe, and
you'll never change my mind.
I know.
Nobody believes in the baptism of the Holy
Spirit.
Nobody believes in the fullness of the Holy
Spirit.
Call it whatever you will.
Nobody believes in it any more than Catherine
Kuhlman.
I know I have experienced it.
I have experienced the baptism with the Holy
Spirit, and I want to go on record.
You want to know whether I'm Pentecostal?
I'm more Pentecostal than the most Pentecostal person
who's claimed to be Pentecostal today.
I believe in it as it was in
the early church.
I do not believe in a lot of
fanaticism.
I do not believe in the manifestation of
the flesh.
But beloved, I'm going to tell you something.
I believe in the speaking in an unknown
tongue, but there are still people today who
speak in an unknown tongue who have never
been baptized with the Holy Spirit.
You are completely filled with the Holy Spirit,
my friend.
When you are baptized with the Holy Spirit,
when you have had that experience as they
had in the upper room, there will be
a crucifying of the flesh.
There will be.
You will die.
And there are a lot of professing Christians,
professing to have been filled with the Holy
Spirit who have never died to the flesh.
You know something?
That's the reason that's a good church I
read.
He doesn't ask for golden vessels.
He doesn't ask for silver vessels.
I know.
Had he wanted any of these, he would
never have chosen that red-headed, mean, little,
feckle-faced girl.
All he needs is somebody who'll die.
Somebody who'll die.
And when I died, he came in.
I was baptized.
I was filled with the Spirit.
I spoke in an unknown tongue as he
took every part of me.
In that moment, I surrendered unto him.
All there was of me.
Everything.
Then, for the first time, I realized what
it meant to have power.
You know, we talk about miracles.
We've gotten so that there was a miracle.
We don't have to pray for a miracle.
When we get in the position where the
two meet, you'll see the result of that
meeting.
And there ought to be a miracle.
It's something you don't work on.
My brethren, it's not something you work on.
I started to preach on the Holy Spirit.
He was so real to me.
The Holy Spirit people!
Please let me just pause and say something.
Oh, I'm so sold on the Holy Spirit.
Don't you understand, people?
Without the Holy Spirit, I'm sunk.
I haven't a crutch.
I haven't anything to lean on.
I don't have a thing.
You see, if I'd been born with talent,
I might have been able to lean on
that.
Had I had education, I might have used
that as a crutch.
But I don't have a thing.
I don't have a thing.
I don't have a crutch.
I don't have a thing to lean on.
Nothing.
That's what he said.
He'd take the basic, the most unlikely, so
that he might receive the glory.
I'm so sold on the Holy Spirit because
I know that without the power of the
Holy Spirit, I don't have a thing.
I'm sunk.
Do you want me to bare my soul?
I'll bare my soul to you.
In these great miracles services, before I walk
from behind the wings and come out on
that stage, I die a thousand deaths.
The longest walk that I ever take is
the walk from behind the wings, behind the
crutch, stand behind the pulpit, wherever it is,
because I know better than anyone else that
I have nothing, absolutely nothing.
Nobody in the whole world looks at it
any better than I do.
I die a thousand deaths when I take
that walk.
I may smile, and sometimes I think I
walk so fast.
I'm not conscious of walking so fast, but
I think that I walk so fast because
I can hardly wait for that anointing to
come upon me.
I know that out there, when I face
that crowd and I stand there, that there
are those people who are out there, some
having made great sacrifices to come.
There's cancer out there.
Somebody's lost hope.
I'm so conscious of it.
I'm so aware of it.
And I know that I can't give it
to them.
I know that I'll have no healing virtue.
People, I don't have any healing virtue.
I don't have any healing power.
Please believe me, believe me.
Without the power of the Holy Ghost, I'm
sunk.
And you talk about the gifts of the
Spirit.
Believe me, I'll tell you the truth.
I have never, and I'll live and die
and no one will ever hear Catherine Kuhn
boast of any of the gifts.
And I believe in the gifts.
Oh, my brethren, my precious sisters, O Lord,
I believe in the gifts of the Spirit.
I believe in the gifts with every atom
of my being.
In fact, I believe so much in the
gifts of the Spirit that I do not
believe in limiting the Holy Spirit to just
the nine gifts of the Spirit.
I believe that there are many more than
just the nine.
Don't limit Him, don't limit Him.
Whatever you do.
And I believe, beloved, and not only in
the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I believe
that we should see the gifts of the
Spirit in operation in every church in America.
And I believe that the nearer that we
come to the closing of this dispensation, we're
going to see, get ready, what I'm talking
to you about today is the most up
-to-date thing that I could talk to
you about.
We're living in the closing moments of this
dispensation.
I'm talking to you about something that's vitally
important.
And I pray to God that out of
this session and out of this hour of
speaking the Holy Spirit shall call men and
women that He can use who are willing
to die to self.
I believe, beloved, in the gifts of the
Spirit and the operation of the gifts.
But I also believe that if one has
received a gift or any number of gifts,
he'll not go around boasting about it.
I get scared shit when somebody comes in
front of me and says, Miss Kuhlman, I
have the gift.
The soul.
See, there's something about the Holy Spirit.
I had an experience several weeks ago.
A Jewish gentleman who had just arrived to
the Great Messiah.
I was alone with him in a chapel.
I saw a man.
I heard a man.
Worship God.
Sometimes I think that you and I get
too familiar with God.
Don't misconstrue what I just said.
Please do not.
Sometimes I think we get too familiar with
Him.
He's a holy God.
He's a holy God to be revered, to
be worshipped.
Sometimes I think we get too familiar.
Let me talk about Him.
Oh, the power of Him.
And even His name.
The name.
Sometimes I think we get too familiar with
the Holy Spirit.
I can only tell you my relationship with
Him, that's all.
But it's so wonderful to realize that He
is the power of the Spirit.
He's as real to me as any human
being.
I live a very lonely life, but I'm
not in the crowds, I'm alone.
He's all that I have.
I've learned to follow Him.
He isn't a person that I can use.
You know, we've tried to use the Holy
Spirit for so long.
We've tried to use Him and we've gotten
into trouble.
That's the reason some of our testimonies are
so empty, so without power, as if they've
gone off in the flesh.
Have you really gotten acquainted with Him?
Really?
When you really love someone, you want to
know their decisions, their likes and their dislikes.
Do you really know?
Do you know Him as a person?
Not just in having spoken in tongues.
I'm talking about really knowing a person.
I would not dare boast of having any
gift, because after all is said and done,
it's still the Holy Spirit using the empty
vessel.
It's still the Holy Spirit.
It's still the person All that I have
to do is to just furnish the vessel.
That's all.
My brethren, you've tried so hard.
You've struggled and you've strained and you've agonized
and you've fought.
Little lady, you've tried so hard.
Just stop trying and surrender.
You see, I haven't had a lot of
things to underline.
I'm glad I'm stupid.
I looked at Dr. German last week with
all of his degrees, and I thought, you
poor fellow.
I used to envy them, the men who've
had all their degrees.
But I'm glad I'm not stupid.
I need to believe that the greatest power
in the whole world is the Holy Spirit.
When miracles take place, to this very day,
I am as amazed, I am as thrilled
as though I had never seen a miracle
happen before in all my life.
Is anyone else in the auditorium?
Maybe more so because I know better than
anyone else that I had nothing to do
with it.
It's not by might.
It's not by power, but by my spirit.
I am so.
And because it's not by might and because
it's not by power, you have to choose
the worst things, the best things, the most
unlikely things in the whole world.