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bless us now by washing me in the

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blood of Christ afresh, and by grace, to

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equip me, anoint me, unctionized by the Holy

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Spirit, that I may be a vessel meet

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for the Master's use, because of the blood

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of Christ, and the grace of God in

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anointing someone so weak and unworthy.

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In base and as wise as I am,

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in mercy to us all come, in spite

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of me, and all my limitations and weaknesses

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come in spite of that by grace upon

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To visit our hearts, in Jesus Christ's name.

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Amen.

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Now, I believe we have to vacate this

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whole place very, very soon, and Brother Don

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will have a nervous breakdown if I don't

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be sure I end at a certain time.

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Well, Brother, you did give me an hour,

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I suppose, if I'm trying to work out

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what you really did say, but there we

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have it.

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What I'm going to speak on today is

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the most explosive topics a human could ever

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dare to touch in his entire ministry, and

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some might dare just as they're dying, so

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that people don't kill them prematurely.

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But I'm going to, by God's grace, touch

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on them in a way that I hope

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no one will be offended, but only edified,

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otherwise what on earth do you come into

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the pulpit for, if it's just to deliberately

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offend?

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That would be very, very foolish.

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God never called you to offend deliberately, and

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you have no right to offend.

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A Christian is a gentleman.

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Oh, I doubt he's ever been saved.

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you are truthful to this word, so long

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as it isn't your deliberate, offensive attitude.

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sake.

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I don't think God meant, blessed are they

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that are persecuted for stupidity in the pulpit.

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Or carnality.

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If your harshest word does not throb with

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God's love, God have mercy on you.

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God's love in the pulpit, I fear for

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your life, let alone your ministry, brother.

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So, we take into explosive territory, where I

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just would like to go once, and hope

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I come out alive.

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these few verses in 1 Corinthians 1.10.

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I beseech you, brethren, by the name of

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our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak

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the same thing, that there be no divisions

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among you, but that ye be perfectly joined

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together in the same mind and the same

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judgment.

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you, my brethren, by them which are of

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the house of clove, that ye, there are

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contentions among you.

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you, now this I say that every one

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of you, saith, I am of Paul, and

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I am of Apollos, and I am Cephas,

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and I am of Christ.

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Is Christ divided?

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Chapter 3, verse 4, While one saith, I

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am of Paul, another, I am of Apollos,

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are ye not carnal?

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believed, even as the Lord gave to every

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I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave

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the increase.

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neither he that watereth, but God that giveth

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the increase.

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are one, and every man shall receive his

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own reward according to his own labour.

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Are ye not carnal still in being divisive?

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says that the entire Scriptures were not written

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specifically to people, but for us and to

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living word of God to anyone guilty of

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the same thing.

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unsaved masses as the great divide.

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this historical term, they would say you must

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be speaking about Christianity.

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are like two separate religions trying to destroy

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each other, you would believe they have no

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worse enemy on earth to attack, to undermine,

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and to try and destroy, and to literally

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hate.

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leaders of our church today believe that as

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defenders of the faith, their faith, they can

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not only attack the doctrine, but the character

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of great men of God, some of the

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greatest men of God who ever lived.

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I am stunned to know and to hear

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people fighting to destroy Charles Finney, and now

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D.L. Moody.

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I stood in a pulpit in America where

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I actually just mentioned John Wesley, and how

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God used him.

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again in my entire life for acknowledging that

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they even existed in the church history, because

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they are devilish, the preacher said the following

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Their doctrines are devilish.

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How do you destroy men like that, that

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you are not allowed to acknowledge that there

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was such a man as John Wesley, who

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the king of England placed in Westminster Abbey

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with all the monarchy from 8th year, 810.

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called John Wesley lying there, because never did

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a man greater service to his nation than

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John Wesley, said the king, while the blood

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and all the nobility and royalty would have

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been killed.

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both sides, forgiveness from the poor and suddenly

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compassion from the rich, when Christ saved the

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soul.

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Forgiveness, healing, love, could even unite the different

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classes, which was impossible in France.

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Now to say that didn't happen because he

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was slightly Arminiast.

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Most people think that, you know.

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John Wesley more than anybody else was John

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Calvin?

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he looked at other scriptures, that aren't our

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biased pets to scriptures.

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Charles Finney was used mightily in America.

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Over 1,500 towns and cities turned to

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God in ten years, mostly in their entirety

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under his ministry.

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Never in the history of America or in

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the world was any single man so mightily

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used by God to bring souls to Christ.

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Now the arguments are that some of his

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doctrine is heresy.

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Well, brother, if you follow every single statement

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I ever made in my life from the

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day I first stood up to the day

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I die, you would find things that I

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too would be probably buried alive.

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I want you to tell me that you

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didn't make a mistake.

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I want you to show me a man,

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even Wesley, who apologized for certain statements he

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made in his zeal for God.

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but later on balanced himself out in many

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divergence and influence in certain stages.

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Show me a man that can't say, I

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made a mistake and please forgive me.

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You're looking at a liar.

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Oh, take care of burying Charles Finney, sir.

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You say his converts didn't last.

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Where did you get that?

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Where did you get that?

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Of course, more people came to Christ through

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him than you or any other living evangelist,

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even B.L. Moody and even Billy Graham's

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responses of what really is staggering, how we

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can look at a man like Finney and

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say there was no fruit that lasted.

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That's a lie.

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Tell me the greatest revival in America and

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the world that ever happened was the prayer

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revival.

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More people were converted to God in one

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nation during your prayer revival right through the

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Civil War.

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And that prayer revival was because Christians got

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on their faces, beginning in New York, in

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Fulton Street, in the Dutch Reformed Church, Jeremiah

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Lanphier.

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These men began what in weeks was 10

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,000 people praying in Manhattan, crying to God

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for the nation.

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Eventually, over 200,000 people crying out to

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God in one state.

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And the souls that came to God never

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in history were so many people turning to

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God in such a short space of time

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in one nation.

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Where do you think those souls came from?

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They were the converts, the people converted under

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the great Finney.

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You want to attribute that to the devil?

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That's pretty hard.

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Because he doesn't exactly put the dot on

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your doctrine.

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God forgive us.

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Now they also place the great D.L.

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Moody.

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Books are written against him because he isn't

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exactly perfect in the doctrinal statement they make.

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He's of the devil, and his books are

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to be banned, and he's not allowed to

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be mentioned in a pulpit.

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By the way, the man that barred me

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from his pulpit after even mentioning that there

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was a man called John Wesley and that

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God used him and Charles Finney.

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Within six weeks, he took so ill and

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has been taken off the ministry for the

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rest of his life.

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It is fearful.

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I was with a German man, Manfred Stegen,

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who is a very godly and influential Christian

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in our nation and southern Africa.

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And he, in his humility, said these words

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to me, that he has been so deeply

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moved and broken as he looked at the

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way the physical body of Christ in the

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scriptures was so tormented through sufferings and how

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his body was torn apart.

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But then he said a greater grief suddenly

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came upon him when he began to meditate

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the situation today.

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The body of Christ is still suffering, is

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still being torn apart, but this time by

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Christian groups through their extreme biased views of

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doctrine, the body of Christ is still suffering

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in the most incomprehensible way.

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It has been torn apart.

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The sword of the Spirit, which is the

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word of God, has been tragically taken up

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by both sides of the true evangelical fundamental

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church to attack each other mercilessly.

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What a duel is going on.

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Is Christ divided?

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Tell me, you say, the other side is

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of the devil.

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Can a house divided against itself stand?

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Christ said, this sword-wielding, sword-fighting jewel

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has left the church deeply divided, wounded worldwide.

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There is no tolerance shown by both sides.

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The moment any preacher dares to suggest that

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their scriptures have different facets, not only one

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biased view, he is looked upon as an

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enemy.

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They are non-negotiable.

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They get up and walk out in their

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spiritual defenders of the faith attitude.

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But all they are, I believe, if they

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can't face scriptures that on their doctrines are

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hypocrites.

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I actually once saw a man stand in

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a pulpit in a conference I was in,

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and he had his certain section of scriptures

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that he was to read for his sermon,

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but he took the chance of his life.

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He decided, this time, let's start from the

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beginning of the chapter that he hadn't read.

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And he suddenly came to the words, predestinated,

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according to the four laws of God.

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Whom God predestinated, he called.

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Whom he called, he sanctified.

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So, he got to these verses which weren't

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exactly verses he would quote.

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That's not his doctrine.

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Even if it's in the Bible.

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Sorry.

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So, what did he do?

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He looks up.

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And there was fear in his eyes.

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And I knew his doctrine.

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And I thought, you're in trouble.

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So, what did the poor man do?

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He looks down, he reads them.

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The shock.

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I mean, he couldn't hide it.

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It was shocking watching him.

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And then, what did he do?

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He didn't say, look, let's just leave these

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next four verses.

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No, five verses.

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Sorry, I don't believe in that.

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I can't accept that.

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He just pretended they're not there.

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And he just missed them and carried on

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preaching as if to say to us all,

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I hope you didn't see them.

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Because that's not exactly what I believe I'm

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about to preach.

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How can we be so radically biased that

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we cannot read certain scriptures without undoing our

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doctrines?

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That's a little bit fearful.

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It's fearful.

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Now, to attempt to minister to both sides

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of these extreme views that has been going

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on, this war raging between God's people so

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many centuries, doesn't just start with us.

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But to attempt to minister to both sides

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of the spectrum is a very dangerous feat.

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To attempt to have the right to actually

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be acceptable to the full Church of Christ,

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the fundamental evangelical Church of Christ, is a

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very difficult feat indeed and a dangerous feat.

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In the Civil War, the American Civil War,

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there was a man who happened to just

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be staying in a spot where the fighting

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was ferocious and the battle came.

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And he was so scared because he didn't

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quite know how to stay alive.

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He did something outrageous as the bullets were

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going, and anybody with a red jacket on,

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pow, you're dead if you've got a blue

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jacket on.

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And so the fighting was just going on.

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So what did he do?

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He thought, well, I'm going to put a

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red jacket on.

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And boom, boom, boom.

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And then he said, no, let me put

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the blue.

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And then he said, oh.

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So he put the pants on that was

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the one side and the jacket on the

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other side, holding it for fear of knowing

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what to do.

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So both sides started shooting him.

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It's dangerous.

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You are really in a vulnerable state, brother.

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You're in a terrible moment of your life

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when you haven't belonged and nailed your colors

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to the mosque.

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It is really dangerous to not belong to

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one group where people will look upon you

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and what you stand for and say he's

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one of us.

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But heaven help the man who dares to

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try to unite the church of Christ from

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the pulpit doctrinally.

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He's in trouble.

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What both sides would do to him is

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unbelievable.

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Years ago, a man by the name of

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Houdini, he walked across the Niagara Falls on

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a tightrope.

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And this was a fearful and dangerous task

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to have attempted.

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But I would suggest that any preacher to

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attempt, for any preacher to attempt to walk

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the tightrope balancing both views and retain acceptance

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or an open heart from a full spectrum

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of the fundamental evangelical church is a far

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more difficult and dangerous task to attempt.

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We are so divided.

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There is no greater enemy we have than

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the church itself, who is not exactly our

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great perfect doctrine.

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I dare to attempt the unthinkable.

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I dare to attempt the impossible.

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I dare to express these two views in

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one sentence, in one pulpit, not two separate

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pulpits to play to the gallery.

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I dare to see them as complementary rather

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than contradictory.

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And get through the Bible 400 times, and

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you will be rebuked by anybody coming near

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you who sees things as a contradiction and

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not a complementing oneness and unity.

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It's those who don't get through the Scriptures

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but get through every book the Reformed theologians

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or the Wesleyan aminius have written against each

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other.

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But they neglect to defy the Scriptures and

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to accept every verse and to seek the

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answers.

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Of course, the first time when I was

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saved, when I got to Romans 9, I

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became quite agitated.

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This can't be.

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No, this is not righteous.

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But I must be honest with you.

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When you first saved, how much of the

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Bible can you really grasp?

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But you read.

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There you go through the second time, and

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you compare Scripture and Scripture.

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You come to Romans 9 by the third

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or fourth or tenth time, and you love

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every verse and worship God for what at

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first you've grown in, because God can't give

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you a full revelation at salvation.

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But He gives more and more balanced revelation

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to bring and to unite the Scriptures and

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not the contradictions you foresee are gone.

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Gone!

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Only when you devour the entire Bible and

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not one biased lot of books or set

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of tapes or videos from biased preachers who

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hate each other to the

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extremists of each view, the hyper-Calvinists or

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the hyper-aminius.

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I may commit sacrilege doctrinally to them as

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a theologian.

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He either nails his colors to the mask,

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or he's a vagabond that belongs nowhere.

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One preacher walked up to me and said,

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You're like a chameleon, sir.

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You change colors.

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You should have one color so that we

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know where you stand.

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I said, If you preach the entire Scriptures

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without leaving half of them out, you'd say

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the same of yourself.

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But you won't.

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So, who's a chameleon, sir, in God's eyes?

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To the extreme Calvinists, the words God is

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no respecter of persons means simply God chooses

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a man without considering consideration of his works

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or efforts or motives or desires.

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It is simply, Jacob have I loved, Esau

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have I hated.

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Who's stopped?

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To the Wesleyan Arminius, God is no respecter

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of persons means God does not choose a

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man apart from the fruit, the evidence of

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his works and efforts and desires.

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But to the Calvinistic, the inclined Wesleyan Arminius,

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You never heard that.

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You'll never hear it again.

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But I belong in the other side of

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the world, in the jungle.

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You can't find me.

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To the Calvinistically inclined Wesleyan Arminius, the words

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God is no respecter of persons means the

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sovereign God who through foreknowledge, new beginning from

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end, which is uncomprehendable to a finite man,

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will never comprehend God, but don't ever bring

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a doctrine that blames God for evil, where

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He has no right to judge a man

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because He made the man's choice.

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James says, What of the prophet of the

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man say he hath faith and have not

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works?

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Can faith save him?

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Wilt thou know, vain man, that faith without

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works thou believest as one God?

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James says, Thou doest well the devils also

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believe and tremble, but wilt thou know, vain

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man, that faith without works is death?

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James was not saying you're saved by works.

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No, by grace are you saved through faith.

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To him that worketh not, but believeth on

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him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is

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counted to him for righteousness.

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Not having mine own righteousness, which is of

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the law, but that which is through the

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faith of Christ.

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The righteousness which is of God by faith.

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By grace are you saved through faith.

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Not of works, if any man should boast.

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It's the gift of God.

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There's nothing you can do.

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It's all been done.

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And it's grace through faith.

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So, James says, What of the prophet, my

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brethren, though a man say he hath faith

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and have not works?

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Can faith save him?

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He's not saying that you are saved or

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justified by works.

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No, you're saved by grace through faith.

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But you're not saved unless your faith works

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and brings your life to correspond with everything

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in this book that God says is the

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result and the evidence of salvation.

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You're not saved by the evidence of salvation,

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but if you're saved, the evidence strewn through

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this book will be written across your life.

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I see there's a balance.

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It doesn't take away from the grace of

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God, giving man no responsibility.

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Many theologians box God in to the degree

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that He has no free will to be

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able to do anything apart from their interpretation

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of what sovereignty, His being sovereign, entitles Him

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to.

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John Calvin has been the most misquoted man

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in history.

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I think if he was in most meetings

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of those who say they're Calvinists, he would

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be so offended the Third World War would

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break out.

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Same as those who quote Wesley.

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You'd be stunned how we can twist them

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to say just what we want.

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Calvinist theology is sometimes identified with the five

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points of Calvinism, also called the doctrines of

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grace, which are point by point response to

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the five points of Arminian remonstrance.

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In English, the points are sometimes referred to

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by the acronym TULIP.

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Total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace,

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perseverance of the saints.

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Quite something.

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Total depravity, I agree, unconditional election, limited atonement,

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irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints.

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Well, now, if you go through to many

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other statements that John Calvin said, you will

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find it is a very different interpretation to

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what has been written there.

542
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,860
And I dare to tell you about it.

543
00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:19,140
All of grace.

544
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,420
Yes, of course it's all of grace.

545
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,120
But what is grace defined as in this

546
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:28,340
book?

547
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,500
What is your interpretation of grace?

548
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,200
What does it mean?

549
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,720
A man has grace and that's it.

550
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,420
Titus 2.11 That the grace of God

551
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:44,360
that bringeth salvation, the grace of God that

552
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,700
bringeth salvation that appeared to all men, teaching

553
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:51,200
us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we

554
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,620
should live soberly and righteously and godly in

555
00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:54,480
this present world.

556
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:57,280
The grace of God that bringeth salvation that

557
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,860
appeared to all men, teaching us that denying

558
00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:03,860
ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly

559
00:29:03,860 --> 00:29:06,700
and righteously and godly in this present world.

560
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,020
Grace?

561
00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:10,620
You don't have grace.

562
00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:12,120
None of God's grace.

563
00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:15,700
If that isn't what you believe grace results

564
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:16,080
in.

565
00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:20,540
My, you'll have a doctrine that gives sinners

566
00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:24,040
the right to stay in sin and enjoy

567
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,470
it in spite of the rest of the

568
00:29:29,470 --> 00:29:29,830
Scriptures.

569
00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:32,750
Romans 6.1 What shall we say then?

570
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:36,470
Shall we continue in sin that grace may

571
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:36,910
abound?

572
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:38,370
God forbid!

573
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,180
How shall we that are dead to sin

574
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:43,680
any longer?

575
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,820
And he goes on.

576
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:46,780
Know ye not that to whom ye yield

577
00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:49,480
yourselves servants to obey His servants ye are?

578
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,300
To whom ye obey, whether of sin unto

579
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,680
death or of obedience unto righteousness.

580
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,380
But God be thanked that ye were the

581
00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:55,200
servants of sin.

582
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,360
But ye have obeyed from the heart that

583
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,940
form of doctrine which has delivered you.

584
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,820
Being then made free from sin, ye became

585
00:30:01,820 --> 00:30:02,820
the servants of righteousness.

586
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:04,840
And I could go on, and I'd like

587
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,100
to.

588
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,440
But there's a book, there's a sermon that's

589
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,680
on all your websites of over 340 verses.

590
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,260
Examine yourselves whether ye be in the faith.

591
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:18,840
Just what God says by this book is

592
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,000
the evidence of salvation.

593
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,960
If it's God's grace that ever reaches you,

594
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,960
brother, be not deceived, no unrighteous person shall

595
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,020
enter into the kingdom of God.

596
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:28,960
Be careful that we don't so put grace

597
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,040
as the only thing that man has no

598
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,680
responsibility.

599
00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:37,080
And a testimony doesn't require repentance.

600
00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:39,320
That's heretical.

601
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,480
Take away repentance, you are in trouble.

602
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:52,500
Deep trouble.

603
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:57,260
Man is not justified by works.

604
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,840
But no man who is justified is without

605
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,280
works.

606
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,500
No one can be a true Christian without

607
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,440
aspiring to holiness in his life.

608
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:10,640
Man is not justified by works as John

609
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,080
Calvin.

610
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:16,500
No man who is justified is without works.

611
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,580
I think Calvin was very good actually.

612
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:30,970
Irresistible grace.

613
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:34,430
I drew them with cords of a man,

614
00:31:34,610 --> 00:31:35,670
with bands of love.

615
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,900
I believe that.

616
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:42,620
You can't come to God unless God draws

617
00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:42,840
you.

618
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,000
But how does He draw you?

619
00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:50,070
Jesus said, I, if I be lifted up

620
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:53,530
from the earth, speaking of His death, will

621
00:31:53,530 --> 00:31:54,970
draw all men unto Me.

622
00:31:55,630 --> 00:31:56,350
I love that.

623
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:59,150
It's the cross, the love of God, the

624
00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:02,310
expression of God for sinners that draws all

625
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:03,110
men unto Himself.

626
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,040
Therefore, as by the offense of one judgment

627
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,340
came upon all men, even so by the

628
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:13,680
righteousness of one, the free gift came upon

629
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,520
all men.

630
00:32:18,430 --> 00:32:20,010
Sorry, I shouldn't have read that verse.

631
00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:25,250
God now commanded all men, everywhere, to repent.

632
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:28,780
No.

633
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,220
Some men, don't give them an opportunity to

634
00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:34,640
respond.

635
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,580
You might bring someone to Christ and to

636
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,200
eternal salvation that wasn't elected.

637
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:40,600
That's not my wisdom.

638
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,620
That was Charles Spurgeon, who we say was

639
00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:43,280
our champion.

640
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:50,490
It is God that worketh in you to

641
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:51,970
will and to do His purposes.

642
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:54,830
Man left to himself will never seek God.

643
00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:56,750
We all believe that.

644
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:59,830
He draws us to Himself with cords of

645
00:32:59,830 --> 00:33:00,190
love.

646
00:33:00,910 --> 00:33:01,790
But how?

647
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:07,930
The greatest, strongest drawing power He has ultimately

648
00:33:07,930 --> 00:33:10,170
to draw you to Himself is the revelation

649
00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:11,990
of Christ on the cross dying for you

650
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,370
to be saved.

651
00:33:13,910 --> 00:33:18,090
Dying for you to draw near to Him.

652
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,810
I, if I be lifted up, will draw

653
00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:22,570
all men to Myself.

654
00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:27,540
How does God draw us?

655
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:30,000
Just this message of the cross?

656
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:30,340
No.

657
00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:30,440
No.

658
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:35,400
I see this thing that irresistible grace, this

659
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,620
thing that God draws us, you know.

660
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,700
I see it as something beautiful.

661
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,740
The cross, of course, beyond everything.

662
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,620
But the cross's effect on others' lives.

663
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:46,700
God uses everything.

664
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:49,440
He throws out cords of love to draw

665
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,760
us to Himself until we are broken down

666
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,420
of any resistance to say no to Him.

667
00:33:56,510 --> 00:33:59,070
Of course, there's nothing that God will use

668
00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:00,290
more than the message of the cross.

669
00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:02,330
But before I heard the message of the

670
00:34:02,330 --> 00:34:05,150
cross in truth, I saw the effect on

671
00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:05,990
my brother's life.

672
00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:08,449
And there was one of the cords.

673
00:34:11,219 --> 00:34:14,639
I couldn't argue with God at the beautiful

674
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,780
transformation of a life.

675
00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,780
And that broke down arguments that I might

676
00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:21,840
have had against the preacher.

677
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:24,610
It drew me.

678
00:34:24,830 --> 00:34:27,489
I have just come from a place where

679
00:34:27,489 --> 00:34:29,330
I was in a home where the son

680
00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:31,889
has been in prison over and over again.

681
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:35,030
Drinking drugs, drinking the most horrific things.

682
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:38,110
And his parents weeping and praying.

683
00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:40,830
But God gets hold of this young woman

684
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:41,929
who now is married.

685
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:44,250
They've had their children, but they get married.

686
00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:46,710
God gets hold of this girl and saves

687
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:48,989
her wonderfully to such a degree that even

688
00:34:48,989 --> 00:34:51,330
if he goes to prison, she says, whatever

689
00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:57,490
happens to him, I won't leave him, but

690
00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:58,510
I'm going through with God.

691
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:59,970
Now, this has staggered him.

692
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:02,890
A smashed, destroyed soul.

693
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:05,450
Now, the next thing, his closest friend from

694
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:06,030
a little boy.

695
00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:08,950
Drugs and drinking and prison.

696
00:35:09,630 --> 00:35:11,230
Has been mightily saved.

697
00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:15,330
You see, God drawing this man, breaking down

698
00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:18,030
all resistance by the woman he loves.

699
00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:23,950
Now, loving Christ with her whole heart and

700
00:35:23,950 --> 00:35:25,310
living the standard of the Scriptures.

701
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:26,790
No matter what he does, she won't leave

702
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:29,350
him until he comes to God.

703
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:31,410
Now, his closest friend turning to Christ.

704
00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:33,770
God draws all men, but it's very effective.

705
00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:35,690
The cross on their lives.

706
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:40,090
Hallelujah for God's drawing power.

707
00:35:41,090 --> 00:35:42,830
The man left to himself will never be

708
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:44,410
able to see God.

709
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:45,570
God draws.

710
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:47,190
He doesn't put them into a box of

711
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:48,630
one I choose.

712
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:49,750
One goes to hell.

713
00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:50,610
One goes to heaven.

714
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:52,370
And you that think you can come to

715
00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:54,330
heaven by coming out in meetings, I'll still

716
00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:55,670
send you to hell even if you're standing

717
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:55,950
ahead.

718
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:56,770
No.

719
00:35:57,830 --> 00:36:01,150
I see God's drawing this irresistible grace as

720
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:04,670
a wonderful love crying out from the pages

721
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:05,550
of this holy book.

722
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:07,850
No, not to him that willeth.

723
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:11,050
We have all these verses.

724
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:12,390
It's nothing to do with man.

725
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:13,150
No, brother.

726
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:18,710
In its context, you must look at the

727
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:20,830
full context of that book, not just one

728
00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:21,370
passage.

729
00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:25,370
Romans 7 says, O wretched man that I

730
00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:28,350
am, who can deliver me the good I

731
00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:28,810
want to do?

732
00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:29,330
I can't.

733
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:30,750
But of course man left to himself he

734
00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:31,110
can't.

735
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:32,470
It's not to him that willeth.

736
00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:33,890
Your will isn't enough.

737
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:37,390
But God Christ can set you free.

738
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:42,900
So God Himself, not just to him that

739
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:43,200
willeth.

740
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Don't just look at the immediate verse and

741
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,640
say, There!

742
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,640
It isn't your will.

743
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,420
Brother, it is.

744
00:36:53,330 --> 00:36:55,590
Otherwise, take the chapters before away.

745
00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:02,840
We're born in sin.

746
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,640
God has to set us free.

747
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:17,350
The Vatican,

748
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:24,290
Roman Catholics, leading Jesuits, have declared that Rome

749
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:27,390
believes that Christ did not die for all

750
00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:27,610
men.

751
00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:32,310
And there is word perfect what many of

752
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:34,610
our great movements today believe.

753
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:35,690
So they've joined you.

754
00:37:37,450 --> 00:37:37,710
Us.

755
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:39,690
At this point, us.

756
00:38:00,610 --> 00:38:03,890
God by His foreknowledge, predestined.

757
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:06,410
Here's time.

758
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:08,330
There never was such a thing as time.

759
00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:09,710
Time will be no more.

760
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:12,630
When did God come into this?

761
00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:14,710
He only surrounds it.

762
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:15,210
He's eternal.

763
00:38:16,090 --> 00:38:18,870
Our finite minds cannot comprehend how God can

764
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:19,770
know beginning from end.

765
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:23,170
But time is not limited.

766
00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:24,530
We're limited looking at a watch.

767
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:26,690
We can't begin to comprehend how there will

768
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:26,890
be.

769
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:27,930
Time will be no more.

770
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:29,350
As we know, there won't be time.

771
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:32,050
God didn't begin it and end it and

772
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:33,390
say, there am I at the beginning.

773
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:34,630
God is surrounding it.

774
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:35,190
He's eternal.

775
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:39,670
And that eternal God can't be put into

776
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:43,030
a little box and blame Him for what

777
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:43,590
men did.

778
00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:49,580
If He's beyond our comprehension, is there unrighteousness

779
00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:51,220
with God because He's sovereign?

780
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:04,610
Oh, we must be so careful that we

781
00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:06,790
don't actually make God unrighteous.

782
00:39:07,150 --> 00:39:09,110
If He gave you a conscience, brother, has

783
00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:09,890
He got no conscience?

784
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:13,630
If we know right from wrong, does our

785
00:39:13,630 --> 00:39:17,350
doctrines give us the right to tell people

786
00:39:17,350 --> 00:39:22,700
that they were born for one reason.

787
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,420
That God chose their choice to reject Him

788
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,920
so that they could be judged by a

789
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,060
choice He made for them.

790
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,460
But what are you saying if you don't

791
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:35,860
say that?

792
00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:44,780
Whom He will, He hardens for no reason?

793
00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:49,910
Or does God's full knowledge, which you can't

794
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:51,930
blame Him for because He's around it.

795
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:53,110
He knows beginning from end.

796
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:55,070
You won't comprehend Him, but don't bring the

797
00:39:55,070 --> 00:40:03,470
word sovereignty to mean making the choice for

798
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:06,330
a man to say, I choose hell because

799
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:10,170
God made me to choose hell, is really

800
00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:13,390
taking away that verse, is there unrighteousness with

801
00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:15,550
God in this context?

802
00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:19,470
Whom He will, He hardens at random for

803
00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:20,050
no reason?

804
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:24,150
Or does God's full knowledge know what man

805
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:25,770
would harden his heart first?

806
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:28,950
Does God's full knowledge of man affect His

807
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:31,110
choice in what He says predestined?

808
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:32,670
Is there anything to do with a man

809
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:35,070
who we must not limit God in what

810
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:36,430
God knew from beginning to end?

811
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:39,270
The Lamb of God was slain from the

812
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:40,950
foundation of the world before the world was

813
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:41,350
created.

814
00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:43,270
The full knowledge of God, the sovereignty beyond

815
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:45,310
our human comprehension, we limit it to time.

816
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:48,250
Our concept of time cannot limit God, though.

817
00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:51,230
Who has never been limited to time.

818
00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:53,630
Began time, time will be no more.

819
00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:54,730
He is eternally surrounded.

820
00:40:54,850 --> 00:40:55,770
He knows beginning from end.

821
00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:00,430
But that doesn't mean we blame Him for

822
00:41:00,430 --> 00:41:03,290
the choices man made because He knew full

823
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:06,310
knowledge is not sin in God's hands or

824
00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:07,050
unrighteousness.

825
00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:09,550
It's God, the uncomprehendable God.

826
00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:15,990
But always defend His integrity and righteousness and

827
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:16,410
holiness.

828
00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:18,930
Oh, get out of the pulpit!

829
00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:22,210
If you're just there to defend your doctrine,

830
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,100
whom will He harden at the brandom for

831
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:34,660
no reason?

832
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:36,960
Or did God's full knowledge of a man

833
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,360
affect His choice in predestinating Him in what

834
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,020
He saw?

835
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,680
I love old Spurgeon.

836
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,620
He said, Whosoever will, let him come.

837
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:48,840
There's the free will of man, John Wesley.

838
00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:52,560
And then you go through into heaven and

839
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,000
you're at the door and you look at

840
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,620
the other side.

841
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,960
Well, the one side says, Whosoever will, let

842
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,160
him come.

843
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:57,580
So we come.

844
00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:58,820
We go to the other side and there

845
00:41:58,820 --> 00:41:59,840
we see elect in the Son.

846
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:03,010
I love that.

847
00:42:04,930 --> 00:42:07,810
There's something there that doesn't limit God's sovereignty

848
00:42:07,810 --> 00:42:09,210
to give a man a free will.

849
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:15,330
Does God's sovereignty in our uncomprehendable mind...

850
00:42:15,330 --> 00:42:17,970
He's uncomprehendable in our finite mind.

851
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:20,430
Don't we put God into a box that

852
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:22,550
sovereignty doesn't give Him the right because we

853
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:25,650
can't comprehend it that a sovereign God in

854
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:27,930
His sovereignty gives man a free will so

855
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:30,430
He can judge him righteously by what He

856
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:30,890
knew.

857
00:42:31,590 --> 00:42:32,910
Don't think He didn't know.

858
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
He's God, but that doesn't mean He hasn't

859
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,720
been through this though He knew.

860
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,400
It grieves.

861
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:49,840
He didn't weep at something He knew before

862
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,720
it was just an act.

863
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,700
It's not some play that He knows beginning

864
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:54,100
from end.

865
00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:54,440
No.

866
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,180
He grieves at man's rejection of Him.

867
00:42:58,460 --> 00:43:00,500
Is there unrighteousness with God?

868
00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:03,350
Like Pharaoh.

869
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:06,750
He hardened his heart.

870
00:43:07,350 --> 00:43:08,310
God hardened His heart.

871
00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:10,050
But that's not true.

872
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:11,450
You've got to look in the context.

873
00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:13,950
Romans 9 comes from Job.

874
00:43:14,310 --> 00:43:16,150
The arguments, what God is saying of the

875
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:17,870
greatness of God that must never be questioned

876
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:19,770
of His integrity, the whole argument.

877
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:22,030
Don't question His holy integrity.

878
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:26,330
Every word you see virtually in Romans 9.

879
00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:27,210
Did you know that?

880
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:29,990
And the whole argument in Esau and Jacob

881
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:30,890
come from Hosea.

882
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:34,510
And talking about the integrity that God knew

883
00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:35,830
and foresaw.

884
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:39,210
Not something He made the man do.

885
00:43:39,830 --> 00:43:41,250
Yes, Pharaoh hardened his heart.

886
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:42,490
How many times?

887
00:43:42,590 --> 00:43:45,130
And then the final time, God sealed His

888
00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:45,410
choice.

889
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:48,350
Then you read God hardened His heart.

890
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:56,410
Don't read Romans 9 unless you've read Romans

891
00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:56,710
1.

892
00:43:56,890 --> 00:43:58,550
Verses 2, 3, 4, and 5.

893
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:03,130
You might blame God for men raping their

894
00:44:03,130 --> 00:44:03,570
children.

895
00:44:04,310 --> 00:44:05,310
Puppetry theology.

896
00:44:06,490 --> 00:44:08,430
You know, sovereignty can be brought that there's

897
00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:10,630
nothing that a man does that is his

898
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:11,110
free will.

899
00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:14,330
So, Hitler murdered 6 million Jews.

900
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:16,190
Men raped children.

901
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:18,870
It's God doing it.

902
00:44:19,150 --> 00:44:20,670
If you want to make God that sovereign

903
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:23,770
that man does only what God makes him

904
00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:24,010
do.

905
00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:26,030
Be careful.

906
00:44:27,330 --> 00:44:29,330
You don't read Romans 9 before you read

907
00:44:29,330 --> 00:44:31,170
Romans 1, 2, 3, you'll find God had

908
00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:31,610
a reason.

909
00:44:34,030 --> 00:44:35,990
For this cause God gave them up.

910
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:43,990
Even as they did not like to retain

911
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:46,090
God in their knowledge, God gave them up.

912
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:49,030
And to reprobate minds.

913
00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:51,510
There's a reason.

914
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:52,530
There's a cause.

915
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:55,720
There's always a reason.

916
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,800
So, He settles that.

917
00:44:58,540 --> 00:45:00,180
God doesn't give up a man for no

918
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:00,460
reason.

919
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:01,380
Yes, He's sovereign.

920
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,140
And He comes to Romans 9.

921
00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:05,000
And brothers and sisters, in case you don't

922
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,300
know it, Paul was the greatest Methodist that

923
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:09,280
ever lived, even though he was a hyper

924
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,280
-Calvinist sometimes.

925
00:45:13,810 --> 00:45:14,890
But do you want to be honest?

926
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:17,630
Paul systematically takes every doctrine.

927
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:19,550
There's no doctrinal statement of our faith greater

928
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:20,310
than the book of Romans.

929
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:22,830
And every single doctrine he takes, every aspect

930
00:45:22,830 --> 00:45:24,670
of Christianity to a degree that there's nothing

931
00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:28,070
that can compare within the whole Scriptures and

932
00:45:28,070 --> 00:45:30,790
in any writings by any great reformer or

933
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:31,310
theologian.

934
00:45:31,310 --> 00:45:33,350
With this doctrinal statement.

935
00:45:33,610 --> 00:45:35,130
But Paul takes everything.

936
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:36,830
He doesn't come to Romans 9 and say,

937
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:37,730
Start there!

938
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:39,470
And don't dare look anywhere else.

939
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:41,510
It's a letter.

940
00:45:41,650 --> 00:45:42,310
He starts it.

941
00:45:42,370 --> 00:45:47,000
He says, For this cause God gave them

942
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,140
up.

943
00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:48,200
There's always a cause.

944
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,420
And Romans 9 comes.

945
00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:56,700
He's dealing with the Jews who said, They're

946
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:57,220
the chosen.

947
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,680
God has no right, basically, is what they

948
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440
were crying, to bypass them now for the

949
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Gentiles.

950
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,040
So, Paul says, What if?

951
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,060
I hope you read that before you read

952
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:09,480
the rest.

953
00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:14,600
God can do in His sovereign perfection, but

954
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,960
there's no unrighteousness with God.

955
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,780
And so, to argue with the Jews, to

956
00:46:20,780 --> 00:46:24,080
show them that God wants the whole world,

957
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:24,920
not just them.

958
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,380
That was His intention through them originally.

959
00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:30,640
To put them right in their place and

960
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,360
to put everyone under the category of sin.

961
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:34,460
He tells the Jews, They're sinners like the

962
00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:34,980
Gentiles.

963
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Now that Christ has come, there's nothing of

964
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,360
their offering that God in grace tried to

965
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,480
make them reach the world.

966
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,640
So, the Jews are put in their place.

967
00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:50,520
And every statement in the light of the

968
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,160
whole Bible, Old Testament, taken back into its

969
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,780
context, can be deeply understood that it's the

970
00:46:56,780 --> 00:46:58,700
integrity of God we must never question.

971
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,100
The holiness of God, the goodness, the perfectness

972
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:04,220
of God, the righteousness of God is what

973
00:47:04,220 --> 00:47:04,820
is at stake.

974
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:12,790
Of course, a man left to himself will

975
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:14,370
never find what God says.

976
00:47:15,450 --> 00:47:16,890
It's not to him that willeth.

977
00:47:17,470 --> 00:47:19,530
So, we don't say that as one single

978
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:19,870
sentence.

979
00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:21,310
We look at the rights of the whole

980
00:47:21,310 --> 00:47:21,630
book.

981
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:27,650
Jesus will set you free.

982
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:29,690
Apart from God, you will never, ever be

983
00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:30,190
set free.

984
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
But be careful, don't take away the word

985
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
for knowledge or you're in deep troubles.

986
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,340
You're in deep troubles, sir.

987
00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:56,110
Can the free will of man oppose the

988
00:47:56,110 --> 00:47:56,590
will of God?

989
00:47:59,860 --> 00:48:01,260
I haven't been shocked yet.

990
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,780
Even saying it.

991
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Well, let's just think of this.

992
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,940
What was God's will when He said to

993
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:12,200
the Jews, How oft would I have gathered

994
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:12,580
thee?

995
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,160
Oh, Jerusalem, even as a hen gathers her

996
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,220
chicks under her wings, but ye would not.

997
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,300
I would!

998
00:48:24,730 --> 00:48:25,690
That was the will of God.

999
00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:26,910
But ye would not!

1000
00:48:29,810 --> 00:48:32,970
Or was Christ lying doctrinally to put on

1001
00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:33,270
a show?

1002
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:41,430
God sent forth His servants, Matthew 22, to

1003
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:43,290
call them that were bidden, that were invited

1004
00:48:43,290 --> 00:48:43,810
to the wedding.

1005
00:48:44,970 --> 00:48:47,130
And they would not come.

1006
00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:51,620
And let's be honest, to the context, it

1007
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:53,620
ends off that parable with many are called,

1008
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,780
but few are chosen.

1009
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,360
Many are called.

1010
00:49:01,850 --> 00:49:05,030
Some people now, in doctrinal perfection, will say,

1011
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:08,710
that is a general call, but not the

1012
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:09,530
specific call.

1013
00:49:10,730 --> 00:49:12,450
A general call doesn't mean all.

1014
00:49:13,950 --> 00:49:17,630
How sad that few are chosen when the

1015
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:19,070
Master cried to all.

1016
00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:22,310
For they would not heed His pardon.

1017
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:23,550
They would not heed His call.

1018
00:49:23,810 --> 00:49:25,410
A lovely poem my wife wrote.

1019
00:49:27,110 --> 00:49:28,110
Ye would not!

1020
00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:29,670
They would not come!

1021
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:30,630
I would!

1022
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:33,890
Or is God mocking and sending forth and

1023
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:35,730
crying out to all men?

1024
00:49:37,630 --> 00:49:38,330
Does He?

1025
00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:40,490
Does He mock man?

1026
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:42,930
Is there unrighteousness with God?

1027
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:53,370
The general

1028
00:49:53,370 --> 00:49:55,630
call or the specific call?

1029
00:49:56,970 --> 00:49:58,150
That's something.

1030
00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:06,040
As man knows say, though God says, woe

1031
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,800
to him that striveth with his Maker.

1032
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:11,660
Though God says, now is the acceptable time

1033
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:12,540
to me.

1034
00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:16,420
Now is the day of salvation for you

1035
00:50:16,420 --> 00:50:20,020
to me, if you will harden not your

1036
00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:20,700
hearts.

1037
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,560
Or is God lying saying, I want to

1038
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,220
save you now.

1039
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,880
You can't.

1040
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,420
I do the hardening.

1041
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,440
Though God may seal the choice, you see,

1042
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,680
they refuse to the love of the truth.

1043
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:37,940
So God seals their choice and gave them

1044
00:50:37,940 --> 00:50:39,660
over to believe a lie and to believe

1045
00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,480
a strong delusion.

1046
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:43,800
But their choice, they would not accept the

1047
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,380
love of the truth.

1048
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:45,880
So God seals a man's choice.

1049
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:47,780
It's a terrible, terrible thing.

1050
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Now is the acceptable time.

1051
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,380
Today is the day of salvation.

1052
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:55,800
If you will harden not your hearts, as

1053
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,380
in the day of provocation, as they did

1054
00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:59,460
in the Old Testament, or seek ye the

1055
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:01,140
Lord while He may be found.

1056
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:03,200
It's not a promise.

1057
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,880
It's a call.

1058
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:04,760
It's a warning.

1059
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,420
It's a warning.

1060
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:26,560
Sovereignty means puppetry.

1061
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:31,340
That we only act out, whether good or

1062
00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:33,980
evil, the will and the purposes of God,

1063
00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:36,320
whether you're Pharaoh or Hitler or men sitting

1064
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,820
in jail for rape.

1065
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,120
Then that's going to be something to watch

1066
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,140
the sovereign God in His righteousness judging.

1067
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,120
If man had no say in the matter,

1068
00:51:48,590 --> 00:51:50,490
it does make me scared.

1069
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:53,770
It does make me scared.

1070
00:51:54,830 --> 00:51:57,590
Be careful that we dare not take away

1071
00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:01,930
personal responsibility and blame God for every choice

1072
00:52:01,930 --> 00:52:02,610
a man makes.

1073
00:52:03,810 --> 00:52:05,810
For you'll have people saying, what's the point

1074
00:52:05,810 --> 00:52:06,770
in seeking your God?

1075
00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:11,220
He's made me a sinner.

1076
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,620
There's nothing I can do about it.

1077
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:13,780
I'm going to enjoy my sin.

1078
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:17,380
Nevertheless, the foundation of God stands as sure

1079
00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:19,240
having this seal, the Lord knoweth them that

1080
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:21,140
are His.

1081
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:23,560
I believe that.

1082
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,020
According to the full knowledge of God, I

1083
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:27,220
have much people in this city.

1084
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,900
I believe the full knowledge of God is

1085
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:33,940
not something of a lack of integrity or

1086
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:35,400
holiness or perfect love.

1087
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,460
I'm a perfect God.

1088
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:40,760
Full knowledge does not give us the right

1089
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,800
to blame Him because of our little...

1090
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,760
Time is eternal.

1091
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,080
Time is not eternal.

1092
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:47,940
Time is temporal.

1093
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:49,100
God is eternal.

1094
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,680
And He declares, I am Alpha and Omega.

1095
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:54,120
I'm the beginning, the end.

1096
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:56,400
There's no such a thing as time.

1097
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:58,540
To God, to us, yes.

1098
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,060
Don't limit Him.

1099
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,760
Don't limit Him by placing time as a

1100
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,000
limit on the finite mind.

1101
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,280
His full knowledge does not make Him guilty

1102
00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:11,710
of what man does.

1103
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:14,790
So, according to the full knowledge of God,

1104
00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:16,890
He predestined us for what?

1105
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:18,750
To be conformed to the image of Christ.

1106
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:29,680
God is not static.

1107
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:31,720
I won't tell you who that is until

1108
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:32,100
the end.

1109
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,060
Then you'll be stunned.

1110
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Who is a Calvinist?

1111
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,180
Well, yet forty days and never shall be

1112
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:39,640
overthrown.

1113
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:43,100
God told this man Jonah to go.

1114
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:45,460
And God gave him that message.

1115
00:53:47,060 --> 00:53:50,480
But the people there realized that God wouldn't

1116
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,140
send a man to warn them of what

1117
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:55,120
He says is going to happen if there

1118
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,800
wasn't mercy.

1119
00:53:56,260 --> 00:53:58,240
And that's what I think we must preach.

1120
00:53:59,020 --> 00:54:01,940
Don't take away the hope of mercy or

1121
00:54:01,940 --> 00:54:02,380
free will.

1122
00:54:02,620 --> 00:54:03,980
These men sought God.

1123
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,280
And as a result, the Lord repented of

1124
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,560
what He said He would do unto them.

1125
00:54:11,860 --> 00:54:12,920
And He did it not.

1126
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Do you remember Paul standing in the shipwreck?

1127
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,420
And he said, I believe God who told

1128
00:54:19,420 --> 00:54:21,040
me every man is going to be saved.

1129
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:21,860
Did nothing to fear.

1130
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,860
But then Paul said, when they wanted to

1131
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:28,400
jump out, You cannot be saved if you

1132
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:28,820
leave the ship.

1133
00:54:33,930 --> 00:54:37,130
God's promises does not make a static God

1134
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:39,470
put into our little box that He has

1135
00:54:39,470 --> 00:54:41,950
nothing to do, we have nothing to do.

1136
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:45,990
I was in a meeting when a man

1137
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:48,050
was preaching predestination and election.

1138
00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:49,830
Literally, he said, one is to go to

1139
00:54:49,830 --> 00:54:51,110
heaven, one is to go to hell.

1140
00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:53,490
And that's the will of God.

1141
00:54:54,610 --> 00:54:56,330
And there's nothing you can do about it.

1142
00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:58,370
And you were chosen by God for His

1143
00:54:58,370 --> 00:55:00,330
good pleasure to put you straight into hell.

1144
00:55:00,670 --> 00:55:01,050
And that's it.

1145
00:55:01,110 --> 00:55:01,870
So he went on and on.

1146
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:06,510
A very learned man, who I know, stood

1147
00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:07,550
up and challenged him.

1148
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:09,570
And said, sir, can I ask you, why

1149
00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:11,790
does the Scriptures talk about awe?

1150
00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:17,310
If you say, it's not awe that God

1151
00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:20,150
died for, that God wants to reach.

1152
00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:26,090
What is the word awe there for if

1153
00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:27,510
it isn't awe?

1154
00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:32,670
1 Timothy 2, I therefore exhort for prayer

1155
00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:33,750
for all men.

1156
00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:38,010
Verse 4, who will have all men to

1157
00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:39,730
be saved and to come to the knowledge

1158
00:55:39,730 --> 00:55:40,330
of the truth.

1159
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:42,650
Those six who gave up and suffered ransom

1160
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:43,270
for awe.

1161
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:47,150
He tasted death for every man.

1162
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:48,930
I could go on.

1163
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:51,710
He is the propitiation, the way to God

1164
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:53,430
for mercy, not only for our sins, Christians,

1165
00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:54,810
but also for the sins of the whole

1166
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:55,530
world.

1167
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:59,410
Who will have all men.

1168
00:56:00,530 --> 00:56:01,830
What does it mean, awe?

1169
00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:04,890
So this preacher and all his learnedness says,

1170
00:56:06,550 --> 00:56:08,570
well, when the Bible says awe, it doesn't

1171
00:56:08,570 --> 00:56:09,150
mean awe.

1172
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:12,640
Does that answer your question?

1173
00:56:12,940 --> 00:56:13,380
Yes.

1174
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,660
From now on whenever I hear God's word

1175
00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:20,180
saying awe, I know He didn't mean it.

1176
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,720
He's lying.

1177
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,460
So he sat down.

1178
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,200
Well, he was thrown out of the church

1179
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,000
virtually for being an heretic.

1180
00:56:28,660 --> 00:56:30,260
I think he was just trying to justify

1181
00:56:30,260 --> 00:56:34,200
God's integrity and not blame God for what

1182
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,420
man would say he has no choice in.

1183
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:38,220
I don't see that as heresy.

1184
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,240
I see a balance here.

1185
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:42,500
Of course, we cannot be saved by ourselves.

1186
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,180
Of course, it's irresistible grace.

1187
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:45,160
But it's through the cross.

1188
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:47,600
And He tasted death for every man who

1189
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,740
will have all men to save.

1190
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,540
God not command all men everywhere to repent.

1191
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,360
I don't limit God into some selected group

1192
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,140
when He cried out to all.

1193
00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:02,470
Many are called, but few are saved.

1194
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:03,310
Few are chosen.

1195
00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:05,190
Of course, many are called.

1196
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:09,490
But those who respond, those who come with

1197
00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:12,970
a free will, God will forgive.

1198
00:57:13,330 --> 00:57:15,030
And God will judge those who don't, though

1199
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:19,670
He knew in His foreknowledge what you and

1200
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:20,810
I think took time.

1201
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:23,070
So He did everything beforehand.

1202
00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:24,310
No, no, no.

1203
00:57:24,690 --> 00:57:25,750
I don't believe that.

1204
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:30,260
We must fight for God's integrity.

1205
00:57:31,780 --> 00:57:33,740
We must fight for God's integrity.

1206
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,180
Oh, what doctrine is this that would want

1207
00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:40,860
anything less?

1208
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:47,540
Where am I?

1209
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:50,280
A good preacher knows where he is.

1210
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,140
A bad preacher stays up through the night

1211
00:57:54,140 --> 00:57:57,180
and gets that tired that he just doesn't

1212
00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:59,580
sometimes know where the next lot is of

1213
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:01,640
all the notes he wrote and his excitedness.

1214
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Eternal security, the perseverance of the saints.

1215
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:10,130
I once met a great preacher who fell

1216
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:10,910
into such sin.

1217
00:58:11,810 --> 00:58:12,710
I won't say his name.

1218
00:58:13,450 --> 00:58:14,410
You probably all know it.

1219
00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:20,860
And the same as the newspapers across the

1220
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:24,070
headlines of this wickedness.

1221
00:58:25,730 --> 00:58:27,030
And I met that man.

1222
00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:35,010
And I touched him and said, Sir, would

1223
00:58:35,010 --> 00:58:36,610
you mind if I ask you some questions?

1224
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:42,540
Were you ever saved?

1225
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:45,470
Were you ever real?

1226
00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:49,190
Did you always live in sin while you

1227
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:50,070
preached to the masses?

1228
00:58:53,060 --> 00:58:55,120
Was there ever a point of repentance where

1229
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,500
you were set free by God?

1230
00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:57,660
For if the Son shall set you free,

1231
00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:58,640
you shall be free.

1232
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:00,180
And did you ever come to repentance or

1233
00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:02,040
did you just live in sin right through?

1234
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,300
And he said a staggering thing to me.

1235
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,360
He said, I came out in a meeting

1236
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,220
like you.

1237
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:11,940
I said the sinner's prayer.

1238
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:12,900
I signed the card.

1239
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,800
And I was taken to a testimony meeting

1240
00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:19,160
straight from there with young people.

1241
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:20,900
And they all testifying to being saved.

1242
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:22,260
And they said, You've got a testimony.

1243
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,660
So I stood up and I said just

1244
00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:24,240
what I heard.

1245
00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:27,590
And it was effective, so effective.

1246
00:59:27,590 --> 00:59:28,310
They said, Phew!

1247
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:29,950
You've got an ability to speak.

1248
00:59:30,610 --> 00:59:32,190
Look, everybody was gripped by...

1249
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:33,470
So they put him in the pulpits.

1250
00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:35,490
In the pulpits, in the pulpits.

1251
00:59:35,530 --> 00:59:37,050
Eventually to one of the great seminars of

1252
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:37,930
the world in your country.

1253
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:42,630
And this man suddenly was used.

1254
00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:50,760
And then he said, Did I ever repent

1255
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,040
of a life of sin?

1256
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:54,300
Did Christ ever set me free?

1257
00:59:54,380 --> 00:59:55,640
Was there ever any reality?

1258
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:58,660
I never repented of sin in my life.

1259
00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:03,580
I don't remember ever being set free from

1260
01:00:03,580 --> 01:00:04,080
my sins.

1261
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,280
But I still believe I'm saved.

1262
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,560
And 90% of the preachers of the

1263
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,400
world, of the evangelical fundamental church will agree

1264
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,980
with me on my side, not yours.

1265
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,000
If you doubt my salvation.

1266
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,080
I responded.

1267
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,500
I came out with a true heart.

1268
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,400
I meant it.

1269
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:36,460
And I believe God saves those that come.

1270
01:00:36,460 --> 01:00:38,440
Once saved, always saved.

1271
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,760
Don't you believe that, young man?

1272
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,220
Oh yes, I believe once saved, always saved.

1273
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,940
Of course, once saved, always saved.

1274
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,640
If you stay saved.

1275
01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:57,950
Where did you see that now?

1276
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,180
This is going to get me into a

1277
01:01:08,180 --> 01:01:08,740
little bit of trouble.

1278
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:12,100
Luke 8, Jesus talks about the sower.

1279
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,560
Hired, and there he goes spreading the seed.

1280
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,380
Some fall on the wayside.

1281
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,500
And then he goes on to all the

1282
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:21,040
different things.

1283
01:01:21,220 --> 01:01:22,200
The seed is the word of God.

1284
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:23,820
The sower is the man who preaches and

1285
01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:24,720
spreads the word of God.

1286
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,440
And what happens to the listeners?

1287
01:01:27,740 --> 01:01:29,740
To those who the word of God comes

1288
01:01:29,740 --> 01:01:31,560
under the preaching of God's word.

1289
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:33,940
He went forth and he sowed the seed

1290
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:34,960
which is the word of God.

1291
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,060
And he comes to every aspect of what

1292
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,260
can happen upon people's lives.

1293
01:01:41,940 --> 01:01:43,240
And what does happen?

1294
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:45,900
What does happen?

1295
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:51,600
But then he comes to a place which

1296
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,200
is rather a dangerous territory.

1297
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:54,960
Doctrinally.

1298
01:01:57,220 --> 01:01:58,560
Some fell upon a rock.

1299
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Now in Matthew, Matthew's account in 13 verse

1300
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,560
5.

1301
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:10,560
Matthew says, some fell upon stony places.

1302
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,680
Didn't have much earth.

1303
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:14,040
And as soon as it was sprung up,

1304
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:17,500
it withered away because it had no moisture.

1305
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:20,100
Christ goes on to explain, they that are

1306
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:21,880
on the rock are they which when they

1307
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,900
hear receive the word with joy.

1308
01:02:25,580 --> 01:02:26,700
Did that happen to you?

1309
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,120
Do you remember it?

1310
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,620
Is that your testimony?

1311
01:02:34,180 --> 01:02:35,640
But listen carefully, it doesn't end there.

1312
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,580
He that hath an ear to hear, let

1313
01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:37,860
him hear.

1314
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:39,620
Christ warns as he says these words.

1315
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,380
They have no root which for a while

1316
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:44,180
believe.

1317
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,480
And then in time of temptation, in time

1318
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,320
of temptation, they fall away.

1319
01:02:53,550 --> 01:02:54,810
Mark 4 verse 17.

1320
01:02:55,210 --> 01:02:58,270
They endure but only for a time.

1321
01:02:58,630 --> 01:03:00,390
Now, he doesn't say what time that is,

1322
01:03:00,430 --> 01:03:01,150
how long it is.

1323
01:03:02,450 --> 01:03:03,550
But he says it.

1324
01:03:04,810 --> 01:03:07,090
Hebrews seed 12 warns, take heed my brethren,

1325
01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:08,310
lest there be in any of you an

1326
01:03:08,310 --> 01:03:10,270
evil heart of unbelief and departing from the

1327
01:03:10,270 --> 01:03:10,670
living God.

1328
01:03:11,810 --> 01:03:13,410
Exhaust one another daily while it is called

1329
01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:13,590
today.

1330
01:03:13,730 --> 01:03:15,270
Lest any of you be hardened through the

1331
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:16,050
deceitfulness of sin.

1332
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:18,150
For we are made partakers of Christ if

1333
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:20,270
we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast

1334
01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:20,970
to the end.

1335
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:23,770
Yes, I believe in one saved, always saved.

1336
01:03:23,830 --> 01:03:25,130
Because of the scriptures I'm going to give

1337
01:03:25,130 --> 01:03:26,570
you now up to one hundred.

1338
01:03:27,530 --> 01:03:28,250
No, sorry.

1339
01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:29,310
I'm lucky.

1340
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,300
I wrote it down.

1341
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,180
Anyway, we are made partakers of Christ if

1342
01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:39,280
we hold the beginning.

1343
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,780
If you continue.

1344
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:42,860
Hebrews 10, 38.

1345
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,100
The just shall live by faith.

1346
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,020
But if any man draw back, my soul

1347
01:03:46,020 --> 01:03:46,620
shall have no pleasure.

1348
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,120
We are not of them who draw back

1349
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,960
to perdition.

1350
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,660
That's sinful destruction, spiritual destruction.

1351
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:55,820
We are not of them who draw back

1352
01:03:55,820 --> 01:03:58,640
to perdition, spiritual destruction.

1353
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,760
But of them who believe to the saving

1354
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,480
of the soul.

1355
01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:04,420
1 John 2, 19.

1356
01:04:04,540 --> 01:04:05,940
They went out from us.

1357
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,800
But they were not on us.

1358
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,000
For if they had been of us, they

1359
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,720
would no doubt have continued with us.

1360
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:15,580
Here I'm a Calvinist.

1361
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Why?

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01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:18,160
Because it's the Calvinist.

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:19,520
It's the truth.

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01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:20,200
It's the Bible.

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01:04:23,740 --> 01:04:25,220
I had a man stand up and say,

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01:04:29,550 --> 01:04:31,330
we're kept by the power of God.

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01:04:32,850 --> 01:04:33,690
Of course.

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01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:35,650
So I'm a Calvinist.

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01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:39,850
We're kept by the power of God.

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01:04:40,990 --> 01:04:42,050
But then he said, but wait.

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01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:43,490
It doesn't end there.

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01:04:43,570 --> 01:04:44,250
Through faith.

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01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:48,200
Well, here I'm a Nominist.

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01:04:50,070 --> 01:04:52,510
In the same verse, there's something we've got

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01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:52,870
to do.

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01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,060
Give diligence, my brethren, to make your calling

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01:04:59,060 --> 01:04:59,880
and election sure.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,840
For if ye do these things, ye shall

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,300
never fall.

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Election.

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01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,380
Place into a category that has nothing to

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01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:08,420
do with man's responsibility.

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,620
Or the warnings that are strewn to the

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01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:11,940
Scriptures.

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01:05:12,140 --> 01:05:13,200
They went away.

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01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:16,660
Like Christ said, for a time believe, but

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01:05:16,660 --> 01:05:17,360
then they fall away.

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01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,320
But if, but they were not of us.

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,560
For if they had been of us, they

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01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,760
would no doubt have continued with us.

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01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:25,640
But they went out.

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01:05:26,740 --> 01:05:27,800
They may be manifest.

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01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,660
If after they've escaped the pollutions of the

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01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:32,280
world through the knowledge of Jesus Christ, they

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:32,880
turn again.

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And the latter end is worse.

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01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:36,620
It would be better for them not to

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01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:40,020
have known anything about the salvation message.

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01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:41,440
Here's one saved.

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01:05:41,540 --> 01:05:41,960
Always saved.

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01:05:41,980 --> 01:05:42,900
You stay saved.

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01:05:44,180 --> 01:05:45,660
Don't want to go into too many other

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01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:45,920
verses.

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01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:47,260
But there's many.

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01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:48,920
A hundred and ten.

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,880
On one thing.

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01:05:52,980 --> 01:05:56,640
He that endures unto the end, the same

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,180
shall be saved.

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01:05:57,300 --> 01:05:58,320
I believe that.

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01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:01,680
And I do not see it as heresy.

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,320
But I do get scared.

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01:06:07,410 --> 01:06:09,050
I preached in a pulpit of a church,

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01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:10,290
a very large church.

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01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:14,070
Where after I preached, the man says from

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01:06:14,070 --> 01:06:17,150
the pulpit, if you're saved, you've responded.

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01:06:17,330 --> 01:06:18,810
If you have a testimony, you will never

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01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:19,330
be judged.

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01:06:19,890 --> 01:06:22,790
You can go out now and commit adultery.

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01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:26,250
You can go now and commit murder.

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01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:27,650
There's no such a thing as judgment.

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01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:28,730
You're soul saved.

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01:06:32,810 --> 01:06:34,670
I said that is a very dangerous statement,

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01:06:34,930 --> 01:06:36,770
sir, that you made there in response to

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01:06:36,770 --> 01:06:37,290
what I preached.

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01:06:37,390 --> 01:06:39,490
Because, sir, I only quoted the Scriptures.

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,900
And you really had to make that statement

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01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:51,840
outside of the Word of God.

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01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:53,060
Murder?

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01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:54,000
Be not deceived.

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01:06:56,050 --> 01:06:58,030
You know that no murderer hath eternal life

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01:06:58,030 --> 01:06:58,630
abiding in him.

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01:07:00,710 --> 01:07:10,700
Well, my word, I

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01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:11,420
wish I had time.

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01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:16,120
But I'm in enough trouble, I don't want

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,800
to give you more fuel for the fire.

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01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:23,400
If you mean the perseverance of the saints

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,780
cancels out every Scripture that tells you, if

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you mean by that you come and believe

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01:07:32,140 --> 01:07:35,560
you're saved, respond with joy, and that gives

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,820
a man the right to go and live

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01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:38,320
in sin with no fear of judgment.

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01:07:38,740 --> 01:07:41,460
And I cry, sorry, sir, I do not

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01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:42,500
see that in the Bible.

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01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:46,200
And I will warn every man I come

1445
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:52,400
near, be he a preacher, that you receive

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,900
the word of joy.

1447
01:07:55,620 --> 01:07:57,220
You can go to extremes, though.

1448
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,120
I had a man stand up and shout

1449
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,900
at me, that you can be lost after

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01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:06,460
salvation.

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,100
So I said, to the salvation.

1452
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,720
So he says, I said, after how many

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01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,120
sins?

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01:08:14,380 --> 01:08:16,420
Just one sin, and you're damned.

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01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:18,760
You're unsaved.

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01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,439
I said, John Wesley didn't preach that.

1457
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:25,700
Anything but that.

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,200
And you say you're a Wesleyan.

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,120
And he quoted a few Scriptures.

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01:08:31,060 --> 01:08:32,500
I didn't have to say a word.

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01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:34,859
He was an ever louder back in our

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01:08:34,859 --> 01:08:35,439
pulps again.

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01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,279
No man can pluck them from my hand.

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01:08:39,420 --> 01:08:40,680
He that hath begun a good work in

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:41,540
you shall.

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01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:43,880
I believe that if you're saved.

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01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:45,040
God is with us.

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01:08:52,830 --> 01:08:54,390
Safe am I, you remember that?

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01:08:55,390 --> 01:08:59,490
Safe am I in the hollow of his

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01:08:59,490 --> 01:08:59,750
hand.

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01:09:02,819 --> 01:09:05,340
No man will pluck you from my hand.

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01:09:05,340 --> 01:09:10,660
Sheltered o'er, sheltered o'er, in the

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01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:13,460
hollow of his hand.

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01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:19,899
No foe can harm me, nor yet alarm

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01:09:19,899 --> 01:09:26,540
me with Jesus by my side.

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01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:36,720
Sheltered o'er, safe am I in the

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,080
hollow of his hand.

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01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:40,240
What shall we say then?

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01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,120
Romans 8, 31.

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,660
If God be for us, who can be

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01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:48,380
against us?

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01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:51,200
He that spared not his own son, but

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,540
delivered him up for us all freely.

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01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:54,120
How shall he not with him also freely

1485
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,120
give us all things?

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,660
Who is he that condemneth?

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01:09:57,780 --> 01:09:58,920
It is Christ that died.

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01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:03,830
It's Christ that died.

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01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:06,770
He also rather is risen again, who is

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01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:07,570
the right hand of God.

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01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:09,750
Who also maketh intercession for us?

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01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:11,270
Who shall separate us from the love of

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01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:11,490
Christ?

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01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:15,530
So tribulation, or distress, or all these things.

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01:10:15,650 --> 01:10:17,370
No, in all these things we are more

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01:10:17,370 --> 01:10:18,590
than conquerors through Jesus Christ.

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01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:20,390
I am persuaded that neither death, nor life,

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01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:22,670
nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things

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01:10:22,670 --> 01:10:24,530
to come, nor things pleasant, nor things to

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01:10:24,530 --> 01:10:28,370
come, nor height, nor depth, I am!

1501
01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:29,710
Hallelujah!

1502
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:33,130
I have no doubt that I am safe

1503
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,800
if all the Scriptures correspond to what I

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,280
believe.

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01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:46,780
God warns those who aren't safe are still

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01:10:46,780 --> 01:10:47,160
applicable.

1507
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,560
But don't give me a doctrine that gives

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01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,980
the man the right to go out and

1509
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:51,640
commit murder.

1510
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,160
Don't give a man a doctrine that gives

1511
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,940
him the right to go out without fear

1512
01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:58,260
and commit adultery and still go to bed

1513
01:10:58,260 --> 01:10:59,360
without a blinking his eye.

1514
01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:01,880
Because nothing will touch him.

1515
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:04,620
Because he came out of the meeting and

1516
01:11:04,620 --> 01:11:06,600
received the word with all his heart, with

1517
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,580
joy at that time.

1518
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,980
Somehow there wasn't death though.

1519
01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:15,120
Be careful, dear brethren.

1520
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:25,100
Of all the things we say, I wish

1521
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,740
I could have more time.

1522
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:30,060
But I'm probably going to be excommunicated anyway.

1523
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:31,820
I may as well just do the worst

1524
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:32,360
things, eh?

1525
01:11:32,980 --> 01:11:33,380
No.

1526
01:11:37,530 --> 01:11:39,870
There was a boy who said, Can I

1527
01:11:39,870 --> 01:11:41,330
tell you a joke, Uncle Keith?

1528
01:11:42,110 --> 01:11:43,490
He said it in the lecture room of

1529
01:11:43,490 --> 01:11:44,430
a theological seminar.

1530
01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:45,990
So I said, No, I do not believe

1531
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:46,450
in jokes.

1532
01:11:47,050 --> 01:11:48,130
I believe in funny.

1533
01:11:48,230 --> 01:11:50,310
You can laugh at funny incidents, but don't

1534
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:51,250
tell me a joke.

1535
01:11:52,430 --> 01:11:54,230
Joy is the result of your relationship with

1536
01:11:54,230 --> 01:11:55,310
Christ, not jokes.

1537
01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:58,010
And you have more joy than people screaming

1538
01:11:58,010 --> 01:11:59,230
with laughter at jokes.

1539
01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:01,650
If you have the right relationship, you don't

1540
01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,990
have to resort to jokes, especially not in

1541
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:04,550
this lecture room.

1542
01:12:04,990 --> 01:12:06,550
No, but I would believe you would want

1543
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:07,190
to hear this joke.

1544
01:12:11,470 --> 01:12:12,310
All right, please.

1545
01:12:13,210 --> 01:12:15,650
If you're very sure that this is appropriate,

1546
01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:17,550
please tell us your joke.

1547
01:12:18,910 --> 01:12:20,650
I was not impressed, by the way.

1548
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:24,930
So he says, Well, there was this Calvinist.

1549
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:26,910
No, this Wesleyan Arminianist.

1550
01:12:27,870 --> 01:12:29,670
And he hated Calvinism.

1551
01:12:29,710 --> 01:12:30,430
And he fought.

1552
01:12:31,150 --> 01:12:32,950
And, oh, it was his enemies.

1553
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:35,830
He had contempt of this doctrine and these

1554
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:36,730
people who pushed it.

1555
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:42,090
And then he suddenly was told he was

1556
01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:42,750
terminally ill.

1557
01:12:42,850 --> 01:12:43,690
He had three weeks to live.

1558
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:47,110
And suddenly he ran around.

1559
01:12:48,330 --> 01:12:51,350
And he was telling people that he believes

1560
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:52,030
in Calvinism.

1561
01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:57,830
That everything, Calvinism, everything taken from the doctrines

1562
01:12:57,830 --> 01:13:00,430
of what today is regarded, I believe that,

1563
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:00,970
I embrace it.

1564
01:13:00,970 --> 01:13:02,910
So they eventually said, Well, how can you

1565
01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:06,390
your whole life hate this doctrine and hate

1566
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:06,970
Calvinists?

1567
01:13:07,070 --> 01:13:08,550
And now you're going to die.

1568
01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:10,490
And he says, Well, I thought, Well, I

1569
01:13:10,490 --> 01:13:11,110
better do this.

1570
01:13:11,170 --> 01:13:13,350
Because if I die, there's at least one

1571
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:14,530
less Calvinist in the world.

1572
01:13:19,790 --> 01:13:22,890
I said to this young fellow, I hate

1573
01:13:22,890 --> 01:13:23,350
jokes.

1574
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:27,150
But I must say, that is rather funny.

1575
01:13:30,650 --> 01:13:31,310
Vice versa.

1576
01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:36,590
A good Calvinist could tell that about a

1577
01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:38,430
Wesleyan who faced terminal death.

1578
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:44,030
We have to be so careful here.

1579
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:50,600
Dearly beloved, I've dared to do something today

1580
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,380
that could crucify me.

1581
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,640
And I want to close with this statement.

1582
01:13:59,140 --> 01:14:01,760
I once was in a church where a

1583
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,220
man stood up, a very intellectually renowned person.

1584
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,520
And I was a young preacher.

1585
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,420
And he said to me, at the end

1586
01:14:10,420 --> 01:14:13,580
of the meeting, I suppose if we're to

1587
01:14:13,580 --> 01:14:18,240
be honest, we have come to realize that

1588
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:23,820
Keith is a very strongly Wesleyan Arminiast.

1589
01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:27,480
Greatly influenced by hyper-Calvinism.

1590
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,200
And then just when we kind of accept

1591
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,820
that, he unnerves us and becomes so Arminiastic

1592
01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:40,700
that we can't believe what he's saying.

1593
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,060
We get unnerved.

1594
01:14:43,740 --> 01:14:46,600
He says, But we accept every word you

1595
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:46,880
say.

1596
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,720
Because you only quoted the Scriptures.

1597
01:14:55,900 --> 01:15:00,100
You didn't say one word in this whole

1598
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:00,960
series of meetings.

1599
01:15:03,130 --> 01:15:05,090
Even the appeals you made were the Scriptures

1600
01:15:05,090 --> 01:15:05,470
appeals.

1601
01:15:05,970 --> 01:15:07,010
Word perfect is Scripture.

1602
01:15:07,010 --> 01:15:12,300
But I learned something, my boy.

1603
01:15:14,830 --> 01:15:16,830
I learned there are many verses in that

1604
01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:18,610
Bible I've never dared to preach.

1605
01:15:25,010 --> 01:15:29,880
But they have a place in the pulpit

1606
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,100
if we are to be faithful.

1607
01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:35,650
And not bias, as I have been.

1608
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:38,630
Through fear of man.

1609
01:15:39,610 --> 01:15:41,850
I will not acknowledge those Scriptures up to

1610
01:15:41,850 --> 01:15:42,170
now.

1611
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,520
But I for the first time sat in

1612
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,780
my life with a man who had no

1613
01:15:52,780 --> 01:15:54,360
preference or biased views.

1614
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,700
And began to realize that both views should

1615
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,200
never have contradicted, they should have complemented each

1616
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,480
other.

1617
01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:14,160
You see, a man, when I said to

1618
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,480
some American great theologian, Do you believe in

1619
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:19,440
eternal security?

1620
01:16:22,450 --> 01:16:23,210
He said, Yes.

1621
01:16:24,270 --> 01:16:26,070
Do you believe in eternal insecurity?

1622
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:36,400
I was taken to a woman who tried

1623
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,740
to commit suicide, twice.

1624
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:38,800
So they took me.

1625
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,660
Her father is a great preacher.

1626
01:16:41,980 --> 01:16:43,900
Don't want to tell you her name, his

1627
01:16:43,900 --> 01:16:44,480
name.

1628
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,260
So I'm not betraying you, sir.

1629
01:16:52,150 --> 01:16:54,570
She came to the place that she felt

1630
01:16:54,570 --> 01:16:58,090
that sin meant she's unsaved.

1631
01:16:59,210 --> 01:17:00,670
Failure of any form.

1632
01:17:02,230 --> 01:17:05,170
And she got into a tormented state where

1633
01:17:05,170 --> 01:17:07,350
she literally tried to kill herself through the

1634
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:07,930
doctrines.

1635
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:15,110
Eternal insecurity is as damnable in my eyes

1636
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:17,970
as a man who says eternal security to

1637
01:17:17,970 --> 01:17:19,290
the degree that you can go out and

1638
01:17:19,290 --> 01:17:20,230
do what you want to.

1639
01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:22,810
And you're safe, you don't have to worry

1640
01:17:22,810 --> 01:17:23,550
about your soul.

1641
01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:34,730
One man said to me, I grew up

1642
01:17:34,730 --> 01:17:38,570
in a church where I was told we

1643
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:39,710
have no choice in the matter.

1644
01:17:40,890 --> 01:17:42,210
And they gave me Scriptures.

1645
01:17:42,210 --> 01:17:45,110
And I had to accept those Scriptures as

1646
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:45,870
the Word of God.

1647
01:17:46,170 --> 01:17:47,850
But for the first time in my life,

1648
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:50,310
I heard other Scriptures.

1649
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:54,700
And I believe God.

1650
01:17:56,890 --> 01:17:58,610
And I came to salvation now.

1651
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,180
After all these years of believing nothing I

1652
01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:03,580
could do.

1653
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:10,620
I heard Scriptures I've never heard quoted.

1654
01:18:11,740 --> 01:18:12,820
Streams of Scriptures.

1655
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:14,920
Of the free will of man.

1656
01:18:15,980 --> 01:18:18,000
In the eyes of a sovereign God who

1657
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,480
gave man a free will.

1658
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:21,540
Who was he?

1659
01:18:21,540 --> 01:18:26,940
Oh, he was a preacher for 40 years.

1660
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,320
What did he preach?

1661
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:30,980
What he knew.

1662
01:18:32,180 --> 01:18:34,600
You can do nothing about it.

1663
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,440
You go into hell like me, your preacher.

1664
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,780
We'll only find out up there.

1665
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,600
Doctrines can become damnable.

1666
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,520
And thwart the will of God and purposes

1667
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,440
and plan of God by boxing God into

1668
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,060
our own limited finite minds.

1669
01:18:55,580 --> 01:18:58,940
Other preachers preach to such a degree that

1670
01:18:58,940 --> 01:19:00,080
it's the free will of man.

1671
01:19:01,540 --> 01:19:05,200
That men are struggling across this world to

1672
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,180
set themselves free.

1673
01:19:07,780 --> 01:19:10,360
And believing that only when they have done

1674
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,900
all these works that they could possibly be

1675
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:13,780
accepted by God.

1676
01:19:14,460 --> 01:19:16,920
That's extreme damnable heresy.

1677
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:20,740
You come to God in repentance.

1678
01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:21,680
What does that mean?

1679
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:24,600
That you cannot set yourself free.

1680
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:26,420
That's repentance.

1681
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,440
Not setting yourself free.

1682
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:32,100
You've never able to repent on your works.

1683
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,240
You come to God conscious that there's nothing

1684
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:38,040
you can do.

1685
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,760
Oh, wretched man that I am.

1686
01:19:40,060 --> 01:19:41,240
Who shall deliver me?

1687
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:43,180
So it's not to him that will.

1688
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,040
It's God.

1689
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,880
The purposes and plan of God.

1690
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,580
And in his full knowledge, if he hardens

1691
01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:50,380
a man's heart, it's because he that hardeneth

1692
01:19:50,380 --> 01:19:53,920
heart continually shall suddenly be destroyed.

1693
01:19:54,020 --> 01:19:55,880
And that without remedy.

1694
01:19:57,780 --> 01:19:58,900
There's both sides.

1695
01:19:59,180 --> 01:20:00,040
There's both views.

1696
01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:01,200
What am I?

1697
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,440
Thank God from a young person, I've had

1698
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,340
one thing that no one can touch me.

1699
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:15,840
Because 80 percent, 87 percent of every sermon

1700
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,540
I've ever preached, I've just quoted this book.

1701
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:20,560
And it unnerved Calvinists.

1702
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,480
It unnerved Wesleyan Alminiists.

1703
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:26,940
But it brought a balance.

1704
01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:31,900
It gave me the right to preach to

1705
01:20:31,900 --> 01:20:32,640
both sides.

1706
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,940
I'll tell you to whom of both sides.

1707
01:20:35,420 --> 01:20:36,560
Every single one.

1708
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,620
Preachers and laymen and those in the auditoriums.

1709
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:43,820
Washed in the blood.

1710
01:20:47,980 --> 01:20:49,900
Who will accept God's word fully.

1711
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:58,210
And see it as a balance.

1712
01:20:59,470 --> 01:21:00,710
To protect us.

1713
01:21:06,580 --> 01:21:07,840
To bring us to God.

1714
01:21:09,580 --> 01:21:12,420
And to make us give diligence.

1715
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,300
To make our calling and election sure.

1716
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:17,620
For if ye do these things ye shall

1717
01:21:17,620 --> 01:21:18,200
never fall.

1718
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,540
Forgive me quoting that in case you don't

1719
01:21:20,540 --> 01:21:21,140
believe that.

1720
01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:24,520
But every soul on earth that ever tried

1721
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:25,240
to touch me.

1722
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:29,000
Were whipped down by their own people.

1723
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:30,680
As hypocrites.

1724
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,680
Because he only quoted the scriptures.

1725
01:21:42,530 --> 01:21:42,930
Yes.

1726
01:21:45,620 --> 01:21:47,280
Brother Don says it would be amazing if

1727
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,220
we have another convention next year.

1728
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,780
After this it will be.

1729
01:21:56,620 --> 01:21:57,960
But I'll tell you what.

1730
01:21:58,420 --> 01:22:00,640
I've never been called to defend the doctrine.

1731
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,300
I have been called.

1732
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:07,480
To give every single person I've preached to.

1733
01:22:08,540 --> 01:22:10,220
Every aspect of the word of God.

1734
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,560
To protect them from heresy.

1735
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,280
Can we stand please.

1736
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:23,760
I want Brother Don to please come forward.

1737
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,140
And to commit us to Christ.

1738
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,060
Thank you Father for giving us the word.

1739
01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:39,980
There's probably not a man in the world.

1740
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:45,370
That would do what's been done today.

1741
01:22:47,290 --> 01:22:49,290
Unless he would have the understanding.

1742
01:22:49,850 --> 01:22:52,770
That you've given to men of the word.

1743
01:22:52,930 --> 01:22:57,240
And men that have been directed by the

1744
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,820
spirit to understand this.

1745
01:22:59,580 --> 01:23:01,740
Men like Tozer who said you could fall

1746
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:03,440
off at either end of a log.

1747
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,760
And he said both groups have fallen off

1748
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:07,260
their end.

1749
01:23:08,620 --> 01:23:10,740
There's balance in your word if we would

1750
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:11,360
understand.

1751
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,120
And if you could help us get the

1752
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:14,580
wisdom.

1753
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,580
Of your word.

1754
01:23:16,580 --> 01:23:18,980
And why you've done this.

1755
01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:22,360
Why you taught us the way you did

1756
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:22,940
in the word.

1757
01:23:25,380 --> 01:23:27,280
It should revolutionize our life.

1758
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,940
And Father speak to our hearts.

1759
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:32,940
Because if we're not a soul winner.

1760
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,280
And have a heart for souls.

1761
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,580
May you do such work that we would

1762
01:23:38,580 --> 01:23:39,440
examine ourselves.

1763
01:23:39,620 --> 01:23:41,260
To see if we are really saved.

1764
01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:45,150
Thank you for speaking to us.

1765
01:23:45,330 --> 01:23:47,390
Thank you for this amazing message.

1766
01:23:48,250 --> 01:23:51,030
Thank you for a man that could only

1767
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:51,810
deliver this.

1768
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:56,110
Unless he was broken and humble in your

1769
01:23:56,110 --> 01:23:56,590
sight.

1770
01:23:58,090 --> 01:23:59,430
Bless him and his family.

1771
01:23:59,930 --> 01:24:01,730
Thank you for the privilege of us gathering

1772
01:24:01,730 --> 01:24:03,430
together these last few days.

1773
01:24:04,730 --> 01:24:06,090
In Jesus name.

1774
01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:06,710
Amen.