The beginning of this tape is Norman's morning
prayer, with no microphone.
...in Thailand, in Japan, in Spain, in France,
and all over the place.
...week together
now, this is our last day.
As far as the morning sessions are concerned,
I've aimed for the centre of our understanding
and the, hopefully, inner commissioning and inner understanding
would be around the final operations of the
spirit in us and as us, as intercessors.
The meaning of intercession, and the being an
intercessor, and the product of intercession.
Able to say to the other person, we
come unto God by him, for ye, an
unchangeable spirit ever lives to make intercession.
So, we've piled up into just one session,
what we usually, next week, we spend most
of the week doing.
The starting stages, from stage little child and
young man and all that.
These very thorough examinations by those who haven't
been that way, very often never heard these
things before.
But we take them for granted, the majority
of us here had already heard, and by
the grace of God, soaked in, and had
soaked into us by the Holy Spirit, the
reality.
Not only being born in the Spirit, but
being walking spirits, walking Christ.
Christ regaining his property, out from the devil,
the marvellous human property, express himself.
And we, therefore, liberate and express ourselves.
That, of course, we tried to pack into
the one day, and the few after few
questions I have down here, but not that
many, then we sought to pack in the
next days, some more thorough examination of the
settlement into the third level, which is by
a confirmation of the Spirit, as much as
the settlement into the second or the first
level.
The Spirit tells me, that's what you are.
That's what you are, you are now eternally,
forever, and intercessory.
And intercessory meant the loosening up by the
Holy Spirit, the detachment from anything that is
of God.
Then the reattachment on another level.
The detachment of that human love grab stuff,
these are my this, my that, my that.
Detachment of that, the total attachment is he,
but inside his attachment, then comes his other
love, back comes his other love attachments for
other people.
But they are detached attachments, that's the difference.
They are detached attachments.
They aren't that grab love.
They are that serving love and blessing and
thankful for precious people, thankful for our loved
ones, and so on, and of course necessary
concern for them and so on.
So we went through some of that great
Luke 14 detachment chapter, discipleship chapter, which is
the hidden background of apostleship, which means you
are a commissioned intercessor.
And we again said, remembering, we gradually learn,
this is by faith, it's already done, it's
by faith, by faith, it isn't death I
ought to become that.
If he's got me, I am that.
He may need to confirm to me he
is that.
He may need to make me know that
I'm detached.
Well he'll do that, he'll do that.
But we say we are, we don't say
we shall be.
So we move on then into the recognition
of the fact that we are therefore commissioned
apostles, fathers, priests, taken from among men, ordained
for men, in things pertaining to God.
Not things pertaining to flesh and society, in
things pertaining to God, of course, if they
become God people.
Faith, priests, taken from among men, ordained for
men, to let them, to enable themselves to
become co-priests with us, co-God expressers.
Because you remember the original commission given to
Israel, you'll be, my memory,
his early commission in Hebrew, at Horeb, that
they be a nation of priests.
Not all priests.
Therefore that means the whole human family would
be priests.
Because a priest is, your delight is, you
will be a means by which other people
will find what they need.
What they need, of course, is God as
them, and whatever that means to eternity.
So the original, Israel ought not to have
a priest, to be a nation of priests.
At that time they couldn't take it, but
for a variety of days, that can only
take place through Jesus Christ.
But now we are a nation of priests.
So we got that, and then we went
in a little bit, into the structure of
intercession, and we found that intercession is direct
commission.
The highest privilege is a commission that grabs
you for life, a major commission.
Only God gives those things, those things are
by faith, you can take it by faith,
if you'd like to be that, you can
say, God, you're one that does that, I
expect you to make me, No, I'm a
major commission person.
Don't you ask, don't just say, I take
it for granted, because that's what a priest
can be, I expect you to make it
true.
I've had fathers, because I've found out priesthood
now, in the unlimited distribution of this key,
that people are walking Christ, people are really
not they but God.
And they've seen that this can't have a
house, so they've said, well, if it was,
it couldn't have a house.
And you find nearly all who are commissioned
priests in the union life, say that, well,
I guess I can be, I'm done for
a miserable me, so I can be, I'm
caught, I'm driven, what more can there be
than God all in all, God all in
you, and God all in everybody, what can
there be more?
It's a joke to think there can be.
But you have to know from God.
And even then, there are local commissions, I
mean, everybody may not be called to be,
what we call you love, God may blow
that term out of the air time, that
doesn't matter.
But while it is convenient, like you do
have to have a name, some of us
do say, well, this is a cooperation now,
we've got a cooperation, well, we are interrelated
on our homes, and so on, interrelated by
magazine, and our fellowships, as part of this
God getting to the whole world, the whole
body, the body of Christ in the world.
It's the second commission, the fulfilling of the
will of God.
I told you from the beginning, Paul had
two commissions, which I had shared a little
bit, Christ to the rough world, the whole
world to hear Jesus' die for them.
And the fulfilling of the commission was to
the body, and the suffering to the body,
because the body kills you.
The world bypasses you.
The body of Christ, they are too sensitive,
and they'll beat you up.
Like we just heard, it's from the body
you get it.
So it's the body which will hurt Paul,
not the world.
And Jesus, of course, Jesus was crucified by
the church, not by the world, the church
of that day.
And so, therefore we are hoping, we say,
I'm sure it is, some of you may
say it's weak, saying yes, well, I'm cornered.
I must say also, maybe if we share
a little later today, some of you may
say, well, I can't help it.
I'm in this thing, God's made me see,
I'm part of something, I can't get out
of it.
I wriggled and screamed and howled for 50
years, I still scream and howl, but I
can't get away.
So I wrote a book called Once Caught,
No Escape.
So, poor me, and worse you.
So that's all I can say for you.
But I'm hoping maybe it's very weak.
So I must say, yes, I see it
in the Spirit now, I see it in
the Spirit.
But we say it carefully, because what's the
thing?
The thing is nothing.
But it is, we are saying it personally,
we don't know of a known agency.
If so, please let us know.
We don't know any agency who presents what
we call total truth.
Total truth means you have a final death
to the law.
The first death is to sin, and death
to the world, but the final death of
the world is to the law.
The law, of course, is that little bit
of you ought, that little bit of operating
self, you ought, you ought, you ought.
In other words, the death, the release of
self, of anything to do with being self
-managed, is to Satan.
The law comes in to show you're self
-managed, that's Satan.
And that death is the release, as I
said, not the death of the self, the
death of the self, to sin.
Sin is self-centeredness.
And the, so the final death is the
law, because the law finally shows up, the
final issue, which you still think you should
be something, or are something, or something about
it.
You haven't seen that you were simply Satan
-managed.
And you never were self-managed.
He kidded you.
You were always a Satan-managed, because you're
always married by the deity in you, which
deity?
Well, now we're Christ-managed.
That's so, the final death is there.
Therefore, we are saying, I don't know.
I mean, that precious little scripture, little book
that I use for years, The Life That
Wins.
Precious little thing, by that, it used to
be, it was one of the original, original
papers in America.
Its name should be a very well-known
witness of Christ, of my older generation.
And that little Life That Wins still goes.
It's a powerful, powerful little book.
It has the, it has a great deal
of the retracement, but back it goes on
the law.
Now you've got to become this, you've got
to pray more, keep up your prayer life,
keep it good, back on the law.
And that's about the highest book I knew.
Little tract, I've distributed thousands of them in
my earlier days.
So I have to say, I want to
be creative, I don't know, practically no literature,
except Lanyon's.
Lanyon has his difficulties, because all good people
have their difficulties, so he has his difficulties.
I'll leave them out for the time being,
unless you want a private, private explanation.
He's terrific.
But, I don't know.
I'm seeing, I have been led now, by
sort of a, my last verbal shout before
I go, but maybe, a book that's coming
in print now, Yes I Am, I've written
Who Am I, Yes I Am is the
same, stronger at some point, stronger around the
nature business.
Some clearer thing, and leading into this fact
that, the end is you say you are.
We're saved because, a man called Jesus Christ
said, I'm Jesus Christ, I'm the God, because
he said so, we're saved, because that's why
they crucified him.
He said, that's what I am, and what
I am I say I am.
I am God in the flesh, and I
am the Son of Man, and I say
so, and therefore we're to rise up and
say, who are we?
We're Christ walking in our human form, whatever
term you like to use, Christ in us,
as us, but something which is, a little
extreme, a little disturbing, to anybody who clings
a little bit of self, self development or
something, and there's a cutting edge of it.
So I brought out this last book, with
a last, with a last, presentation, and I
sought to give very strong, scriptural notes all
along.
So I sought to be able to show
here, the Bible says it, the Bible says
it, because who am I?
What the Bible says does not matter.
The Bible says it, the Bible says, so
I'm hoping it may become a kind of
definitive book, on human terms, in our build
up, until God gives a better one.
And in the last, at the far end,
I put on the last page, this, the
fullness of this hymn, if the Lord says
so I am, I don't say, if the
Lord says so I am, then I am.
I say, if the Lord says so I
am, yes I am.
So I've got 25 things, where the Lord
says so I am, yes I am.
And I put the script at the end,
shut people's mouths.
That'll be the last, the last addendum of
the thing.
I'm only saying up to the present, may
God show us differently, I don't know who
else puts this in total, they do let's
have them.
And I still, let's try to do anything,
it'll be called a union, a fellowship, or
a, we're trying to make no, an organization,
we have no memberships, no fees, no stuff
like that.
We're just bound, well enough binding, a magazine
really binds us, and our fellowships, our conferences,
and our interrelationships.
We're trying to avoid, all the build up,
you know, and pay more, and so on,
and declare, so and so, and all that
stuff.
So to keep us, we're just members of
the body of Christ, that's all.
The fact is, if we figure out, every
member of the body of Christ, must come
here.
If the ultimate is, that every member of
the body of Christ, Christ means handling his
world.
And God doesn't mean handling his world, there's
humiliation, by which he doesn't handle it, by
us.
Which means he operates as us.
Everybody, the whole body's got to come to
this.
What else can there be?
So, therefore we boldly say, we're saying, what
we can see, can only be this.
But we're only members of the body, and
we're then saying, all the body of Christ,
if they knew it.
We aren't saying, no, any new thing.
This happened the moment, Jesus Christ came into
your life.
The moment you're born again, you're this.
It's not, it's not gaining something, it's recognizing
something, it's already there.
It's not gaining some new thing.
No, no.
It's not, as all my friends, it's not
says, it's not, it's not, do, do, do,
it's done, done, done.
A phrase I like very much, my friend
Evelyn, in the, in Charlotte, in the, was
terrible, but I was in a good state
in that.
Sort of, further, cliche for us, not do,
do, do, but done, done, done.
So, it is.
So, we're carefully saying, we're not saying any
new thing.
We're saying, you are that, you silly fellow,
wake up.
That's why I think God continues to laugh.
He laughs at us, we're so silly.
And enjoy, enjoys our foolishness, I think.
So, I expect to go to a laughing
God, laughing at me first, then other people,
then I'll laugh with him and other people.
That's all.
But, so I'm saying, we're saying that, aren't
we?
It isn't a new thing, it is the
only truth.
Every born again person is a walking Christ,
they just don't know.
And they are, they just don't know.
As I told you, if you're born again,
you can't help wanting to be somebody else,
because the spirit of other love got you.
The boy you're born with, the spirit of
other love, not self-love.
So you can't help when you're born again,
oh, I wish my neighbor had eternal life,
oh, I wish, that's all, you've begun to
be a successor.
You just haven't found out it is full
implications, that's all.
So, we're saying that we're looking around all
the time and want anybody to put, occasional
folks see this.
I have to stay hesitatingly even there.
It's rare to meet individuals who know the
whole thing.
Because the whole thing is, watch out, poor
fellow.
As I say, dead to love not the
last one.
We say dead to love, most people think
I mean, just the love of your old
sins.
No, it's the love of the misused self.
Because love, the last sin is the misused
self.
Satan using self as if it's you.
That's the last sin.
Satan making you think that self you is
Satan you.
And you think it's you.
That's the last sin.
That's the last form of sin.
And that's what the law is, to pin
you down to the last form of sin.
You ought to die somewhere.
That's how you should respond.
That's what the final end is.
Not dead to sin, not dead to war,
dead to law.
That's Paul's great revelation.
Comes out in Romans 6-8 of course
famously.
And I say, I suppose there are, but
it's a very, I don't know, even individually,
to meet people who know the whole business.
Maybe, certainly I don't know groups or churches.
Some are getting even closer to it.
One of the problems, I think, with churches
are, unless it's a minister who sees the
whole thing, it's too much to die for.
If you see the whole thing, what can
you but give the whole thing?
You said that just now, you said, well
you can't stop it if you've got it.
If you can't stop those rivers, they will
burst out.
If you know, you must give it.
But, you see, therefore when ministers say, well,
I have a mixed congregation, some are beginners,
some are unsaved, some are Christians, that's not
the point.
You don't, Paul said, I don't please men,
I give God's word.
That's his whole message in Galatians.
Do I please men?
I don't please men.
What's getting wrong?
I've got to give what God says.
I mean, preach hell and sin to the
unsaved, and of course that's included.
But I mean, you don't hang your, of
course you do that on certain areas, that's
part of, that's for the unsaved.
But inside the saved, oh, I couldn't give
it too much.
You don't please men, you give what God
makes you.
If you make it, you've got to.
And I say, well, I know one precious
man, he's one of the leading ministers in
this nation, very precious man, one of the
big evangelical wealthy church, and he does know
Christ, he knew.
When I first heard him talk, give some
talks a year ago, I had the morning
service, I went to his beautiful service, crowded
of course, very affluent, beautiful choir, but it
was spiritual.
His prayer was spiritual, his message is spiritual
man.
He said, you people must, you must have
the joy of the Lord.
So when I saw him after, I said
to Corley, he gave me a little tux
where he got this Christy news from our
old collection.
I said, brother, that's not, you don't have
the joy of
the Lord,
you don't have the joy of the you
don't He said, brother, I have a large
area, very affluent, established, evangelicals, they couldn't take
this.
In other words, he hasn't seen for him
to die for it.
If he saw it, he'd do it.
You'd do the same.
So my trouble with churches is, really, if
I'm a minister, associate, I've got to give
this my die for it.
What happens if I've got to get the
resurrection and a whole new quality of fellowship
and everything else comes out the other side.
So it did.
It was the minister that crucified Jesus Christ,
the priest, the priest, they had to crucify
Jesus Christ.
So it's difficult.
So it's a very rare thing that I'm
saying.
I'm looking around and what you look around,
if you know of any others who really
know, who cares what they call the union
life of the upside down any old thing
called jiggery-pokery, call them what they like,
because that's all it is anyhow.
Who cares?
So we're not saying it has to be
union life, but we are saying, that's why
maybe some of you, even this week, may
feel sensible to what Peter said when Jesus
was so unpleasant, he said, there's got to
be cannibals to be Christians.
It was before the Holy Communion.
He said, you've got to eat my flesh
and drink my blood.
This wasn't at the Lord's Supper.
He just said that to talk.
He said, you've got to eat my flesh
and drink my blood.
Well, I'm an African missionary.
I know cannibalism.
I've seen it.
He's told there'd be cannibals.
Just from the flesh.
He said, you've got to eat his flesh
and drink his blood.
It couldn't dwell in you.
They left him at that time.
And that's the time.
He said, now, he said, remember, in John
8, he said, remember, words I speak of
spirit.
They sound flesh.
They are really spirit.
It's a spirit eating with me, really.
But still, that's difficult to see until you
do see little bits, like we've been seeing
a little bit.
And that's when he turned to his disciples.
He said, will you leave me?
And poor Peter, he said, well, he said,
too much, shall we go?
If you can only find someone with some
sense, we'll go to them.
There's no one else, we've got to stick
by you.
So you have the word of eternal life,
we'll stick by you.
So maybe we've got to stick by you
in life because nobody else has got any
sense.
Or we are the only ones who have.
I don't know what you are.
So maybe.
And so I'm saying, we have talked about
that.
It is a commission that grabs you.
You become your life's commission, as it has
been for mine.
Took forms first for many years to get
him gospel because he's never been named.
That's been a great deal.
And then to build up the people with
whom he has been named, now in whom
they really are, a part of the same
church, of course.
And then we said that inside the local
commission, the major commission, there are minor commissions.
And they're part of, so your life will
be full of, I've had lots of them,
I've told you of them before, or something
which temporarily drives you.
Maybe a loved one, you've got to see
that loved one through.
Or children, or family affairs, or church visits,
all sorts of things that in your ordinary
life grabs you as a temporary commission.
Inside the major commission, now this is the
temporary commission.
I put you here that God made me,
I'll do something by those people, by you.
I'd like to, in saving them or something,
by you.
So there's the, inside the local, the major
is the minor.
And then we went on to the fact
that it only comes from death.
Self's got to lie the wrong way round,
unto Satan.
So it's got to die the right way
round, to rise again.
And we do the dying for other people.
For Jesus' self took the dying for us.
And then we share with him, and we're
co-diers.
Now we are dying for other people.
So there's a dying and a rising.
This is the second formula of the intercession.
We call it commission and cost.
But one thing I would add, I don't
think I made quite clear, it came out,
I didn't make clear enough.
Suffering is miserable unless you see it's purposed.
That's why I did say the basis of
suffering, you must know God means what you
get, everything.
God means that nasty person who says nasty
things to you.
And all those pinches you get from the
flesh of the world, God means it.
That's what suffering is.
When I say God means it, oh I
don't like it, okay, God is part of
it, then you enjoy your suffering.
If you don't see that, you'll be miserable,
you will suffer, but you show the suffering
of the suffering.
You don't show the suffering of the suffering,
you show the glory of the suffering.
So the suffering is sort of hidden down
beneath the glory, the two go together.
That's why I do stress, I didn't stress
enough, you'll get the suffering, but you must
then, oh I don't see that, I only
see God's purposes, only God's purposes.
Therefore God can't do people who knock me
about, God means they knock me out.
If you want me to tear up my
affections, you'll certainly tear up your affections, you'll
do that good and hearty, tear up your
affections, and you'll be criticized by fellow believers
often, and so on, and it may affect
this, that, and the other, you may be
crazy in your church, and so on, then
you say, okay God, you meant that, now
don't start that way, oh I don't like
that, why should it be?
No, God means everything.
So that's the key to it, the central
area of intercession, which is what we call
the cross, the dying that others may rise
through our dying.
Laurie read us the great scripture, 2 Corinthians
4, persecution of the forsaken, cast down but
not destroyed, always bearing about the dying of
the Lord Jesus, that's the daily dying, all
we deliver daily out of this.
That the body, that the life may be
seen in the body, notice, the first comes,
knock on other people in you, get that
plain, that death produces such fun in you,
that you yourself attract, they didn't, their life,
their first life in you, so it isn't
poor miserable me, and somebody else gets some
life, it's poor fun me, and other people
after my sufferings, so get that clear.
That's in 2 Corinthians 4, where it says,
in that thing that Laurie read to us,
and gave us a bit of exposition on,
it says, always, verse 10, always bearing about
in the body the dying of the Lord
Jesus, that the life of the Lord Jesus
is in our bodies, not other people's bodies,
oh, I look full of vigour and fun,
or I'm being beaten about, so people don't
see the beating about, they see the vigour
and fun, see that, so the life can
be seen, not in other people first, in
you first, so it isn't a corrected, a
fulfilled intercession, if poor hurts you, and you
hope somebody else gets some life out of
it, it's God's mentally hurt time, that this
is all part of God's, by privileged purposes,
to have some suffering in other people's lives,
and you enjoy it, your body shows it,
your body, the outer expression, your body shows
the peace and the joy, and the acceptance
and the praise, when you're not liking what's
happening to you, you say, amen, that's alright,
I meant that, that's alright, God meant that,
but he's operating here, isn't he, all the
time, so see that the life must start
in your body first, before in other people's
bodies, it isn't you suffer and other people
get life, it's after that, after that, then
verse 12, verse 11, for we which live,
always live on the death, for Jesus' sake,
that the life also may live in our
body, mortal flesh, then, so then, death works
out, and life in you, the life in
you is a product of life, first life,
life in them, is first a product of
life in you, a life in which, the
dying is a living, that which made, that
man, say to that bloody figure on the
cross, remember me now, come to thy kingdom,
what a king, stripped, naked, torn, king, I
didn't hear a king, he saw a king,
he saw the spirit of a king, on
that cross, so he said, Lord remember me
when I come to thy kingdom, so see
we're royal in our sufferings, a royal priesthood,
that's what it is, so we must be
sure that we're being hurt, and yet they
say, alright Lord, this is the way that
you mean me, I'm praising you, you mean
that I should have these reactions, you meant
it to give me to, you meant that
person hit me back, you meant it, alright
Lord, I'm your person, I praise the Lord,
I accept the hurt, but you're my glory,
and you're my joy, I think I told
you about my friend I'd just been seeing
recently, who wanted to run away from her
husband, because her husband went for so much,
and she had to accept it, accept from
God, he meant to go for her, but
you're not, you don't take that, you're Jesus,
you're enjoying Jesus inside you, so take what
he says, and let him point his finger
at you, don't hit him back, but your
answer really is, oh praise the Lord, I'm
enjoying the Lord anyhow, he'll see then, your
body is manifesting light, and he did, because
now they have that couple, they've become a
very fine couple, I told you a little
bit about that before, so there is this
second area, in the intercession, and the gaining
of the intercession is the positions of faith
we're taking, you take from the beginning of
your intercession, the position of faith we're taking,
we see these lighthouses of union life as
it were, all over the world, by faith
we see them now, we are talking about
moving to England, he's talking about going to
Europe, my friend is talking about going to
Australia and so on, but already little sparks,
now we see, now faith therefore sees your
local intercession, so the gaining by faith is,
it takes a battle, and that thing happens,
that person, I'm interceding, that person gets saved,
that person is saved, I see him saved,
I see the thing finished, now that's the
gaining area of intercession, that's the cost, the
commission, and the gain, and the gaining area
is by faith, it starts the moment you
begin the intercession, but you must therefore, inside,
the great pioneer of intercession in our modern
days is that we sound, his whole point
was gaining by faith, so many decisions that
come out, I told you, little books are
going to come out, maybe about Christmas, about
for it, by his chief Welsh co-worker,
a woman who was just about my age,
who was with him for years, had headed
up his missionary school, and I know her
very well, she had very deep understanding of
his teaching, and my suggestion, she's bringing out
this book, which the CLC, Christianity Crusader Publishing,
called, Reeshouse Explains Intercession, so you get the
explanation, not that Michael Reeshouse is there, the
explanation of intercession, and there you see the
battles of faith, he had to gain a
free world, it took him days of it,
until someone knew it was so, because the
world was being eaten up by Hitler, you
were Americans, you don't know what it felt
like, one or two Europeans in those days,
he'd eaten up Holland, he'd eaten up Belgium,
France, he was on the verge of eating
up England, except for our friend Richard Winston
Churchill, shouting at him, and at that time,
Russia was an ally with Germany, all behind,
not against Germany, with Germany, and America were
over here, helping, and we always say, God
bless your FDR, whether you like him or
not, we did, because he gave us destroyers,
and under the table, he gave us all
things, he shouldn't give, you had to know,
because you weren't supposed to help us, so
we enjoyed him, if you didn't, and then
of course, he came in later on to
Pearl Harbor, but before that, the battle, this
man, in God's eyes, he's a destroyer, he
wrote a book saying, God destroys those men,
Hitler and Mussolini were two big names in
those days, you will not be allowed to
keep the world closed, the world should be
open for the gospel, here's the, we're taking
the openness, well I won't go into detail
now, he lost the reputation of it, the
way he announced the date it would finish,
besides, all that, because there was already a
date for intercession, he passed on, he really
poured his life out, he had no concept
of the spread that is today, we missionaries
have staggered what's happening today, the Church of
Christ didn't arise today, it's the Church of
India, the Church of Christ, it's Congolese Church
of Christ, Nigerian Church of Christ, it isn't
we Westerners, it's the living Church of Christ,
Christ living in the Indonesian bodies of Africa,
it didn't come into being today, there's a
great seething interchange of witnesses through the whole
world, and you can't stop in time, China's
amazing today, we know that, hundreds of local
hidden house churches going on in China, and
more or less winked at, and even in
Russia, they can't stop the gospel, so far
more has happened through that man, though he
said, it will be kept open, and he
lost everything by doing it, but you see
there the principle of faith as well, you
see the dying, if you read it, and
you see how they got it, and they
said, this is happening, we say, and he
even gave a date, and that's where it
deceived me, where you're given him to confirm
it, they gave a date for the war
to end, the war didn't end that day,
in fact the war kind of burst out,
that was after first year of war, it
burst out, so he appeared to be a
false prophet, he held his celebration, he held
it, with Hitler, Hitler just beginning his great
advance, taking on Germany, taking on, taking on
Russia, taking on, I'm sorry, taking on Holland,
and Belgium, and France, the opposite, so of
course, men of the French said, where's the
prophet?
They didn't know what to say, there's a
death in it, you see, we in hindsight
know this, supposing the war had finished that
day, we should be confronted with enormous, trained
armies of Germans, what should we be doing?
The whole world would be confronted by great
armoured panzer armies, they had to be destroyed
to get the freedom, it took 12 years
to destroy those things out, and then came
the freedom of the world, so the actual
completion took four years after the war was
spoken, and so yes, it's dead, but the
things, all the massive things happen, it's happening,
the remissions are there, remissions are there, so
you see there, if you study that, you'll
see that faith is a very real thing,
it's a taking and a repeating until you
show you've got it, you're keeping what you've
got, if you've got a thing, it's happened,
I'm saying it's happened, I'm sticking to it,
it has happened, and you have to keep
on with it, when it doesn't happen, it
doesn't appear to happen, all that's involved in
the gaining of incision, so you see, there's
a cost, the commission, the cost, the completion,
completion, you gain it, you gain it, he's
able to save to the uttermost, then we
come to God by him, seeing if he
ever lives to make incision, yes dear.
What was it?
This is the first fruit you mean, what
we have, you mean that?
Oh, yes, oh, yes, thank you, thank you,
he uses a phrase there which is, which
actually took the attention of the very leading
Christians in England, because Weishau was just a
coal miner, in the days when they distinguished,
humanly distinguished, the Lord Radstock was a great
witness in, I grew up in London in
the old days, he had a great witness
among Tsar's people, there were a few Tsar's
people, not before the revolution, who got saved,
and he and some very important men, a
great friend of King Edward VII, men who
did know the Lord, attracted by this coal
miner, what do you mean by the first
fruit to go to the altar?
What do you mean in the intercession, the
first fruit to go to the altar?
And they had him up in London, a
great fun in the stories there, wonderful fun
in the stories, how these rich men came
out, had these men out, and they got
shocked with their life when this man got
there, and walked his God way with them,
some very funny issues in that story.
But the point is, the first fruit to
the altar is taken mainly from the meal
offering in Leviticus.
The meal offering is to feed the priest,
to feed the church.
But before you fed him, the first cut
handfuls, shovelfuls had to be burned.
So when the meal offering was offered to
the priest, they took certain cupfuls or shovels,
burned it.
So the first part of the offering was
burned, the rest was fed to the priest.
So that's the principle, there's something where you
die, and after you're dying, well this life
will come to all the people.
So I think that's why he got the
words first fruit to the altar.
But therefore there is always in that first
fruit to go to the altar, somewhere, bang,
bang, bang, you'll get it.
And that's it.
And that's Baha'i, then you pray to
God, this is it, this is God's way,
and you won't like the way it comes,
but you pray, God meant it, God meant
it, God meant it, God meant it.
Pardon?
That's the cause, that's the middle term, that's
the cause.
The gain is all the time operating positive
faith, positive faith, and takes the battle, you've
got it, you've got it, you say so,
you've got it, and you say so.
That kind of faith.
Yes?
It works right.
Yes it does, yes.
Most of us don't need much looking, we
just are.
Well, now I, you've brought something up there,
that's what I thought to spend those days,
so the, I trust to many of us
the impressions, there have been many precious impressions
this week, but the impressions of our morning
session may be some clear understanding that you
are an intercessor, you're a high calling of
God, that's the precedent toward the mark of
a high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
An intercessor means that you have been set
apart in some special commission, which may include
many passing commissions en route, and you may
be privileged to know the special commission too,
and be part of it, that's my life,
given that this will happen in the world,
and this is the agency by which I,
for me, it can happen, God blessing the
other agency, and then therefore, then you move
into your general impression which your life will
be a death-like problem.
Just the whole life will be geared to
this.
Whatever happens to you, all parts, whatever happens
then, you get that habit, everything is productive,
whatever happens, it may not always be nasty,
it may be a daily life, but then
your daily life is part of it, whatever
happens, it may be to you a very
common daily life, cooking at the stove or
something, or looking after squealing kids or something,
but that's your life, so you see your
whole life as part of bound to intercession,
in will come, of course in the middle
of the pleasant things, to get this concept,
the whole life is an intercessory life, that's
to take you where I must have this,
and I shall be there, what about this,
and all that stuff.
That drops out because your life now is
given to be part of the intercession, which
includes many pleasant things, many pleasant things, many
ordinary things, many quiet daily things, it's all
part of the same thing.
In the middle of the quiet you have
the unquiet to come along to, the whole
is intercession, when you caught it as the
intercessor.
As I say, it may include also some
very special intercession, which is God confining you
to the present, as part of the whole,
and in between it all, or shot through
it all, this gaining faith.
That's why the final word of intercession is
Hebrews 11, and that's the by faith chapter,
by faith Moses, by faith Abraham, by faith
Noah, and they begin with the whole, which
they gain certain things by their faith, they
gained them.
Now you see that's a gaining, it's also
an area of enduring, that can be both,
that we're on the, you know, it's all
by faith, but he heads it up in
the 32 verse, what shall I more say,
for the time would fail me till Gideon,
how he gained it, Barak, of course, Barak
gained it through a woman, so I'm always
for Barak, because I'm for the women.
It wasn't Barak, Barak was a silly fellow,
a mystic, Deborah had it, Deborah had it,
it's up with Deborah, praise God, lots of
Deborahs here aren't they, so he, that wasn't
very well, it wasn't very well inspired, he
should have said Cucuteus and Deborah, not Barak,
naughty man, he must have been a chauvinist,
so he put Barak when he should have
said Deborah, Gideon, Barak, Samson, I love Samson,
how God uses the flesh, oh I love
him, the famous Delilah, it's great fun, out
of Delilah came destruction of Philistine, Samson was
a mighty man, in the way they did
things in those days, he couldn't destroy the
Philistine, he shook them up and seized their
gate posts and put foxes which they loved
with torches tied to their tails into their
corn, that's a joke to them, I was
not there, this mighty man shaking up Philistine,
he couldn't destroy them, but he had this
weakness, women, and finally he was caught by
a woman, until she so wheedled him, we
poor men spend our lives being wheedled by
women, and Delilah got his secret, that his
long hair was his symbol in those days,
like we talk about baptism, that you have
symbols, in those days that was, Moses' symbol
was a rod, he used a rod, Samson
wanted to cut his hair, different symbols you
have in different generations, he got it, that
destroyed, no it didn't, no it didn't, it
made him pay the price, he had to
go trundling old stone mills being mocked by
the monks to see the slaves, the vestments,
the loincloth I suppose, trundling his old stone
mills around and sweating at it, ridiculous, but
underneath he was God's man, he never had
anything else, he wasn't a sinner, he had
a fresh slip, big difference between a fresh
slip and being a sinner, God's weak
spot, God destroyed the Philistines, so God bless
your weak spots, because it's through his weak
spot that he got caught up by this
women business, and he finally got caught by
Delilah, Delilah got the secret, it wasn't the
question of the flesh, it was the secret,
she was after the secret, and she let
him out of the Philistines, cut his hair,
and he was done for, that was the
way of those days, and they mocked him,
he was just a tremendous burly kind of
man, we all talk about being Samson's today
don't we, grinding for corn, inside, no I'm
God's man, and God put me here to
destroy the Philistines, and then to be destroyed,
how, how, how could he, he was a
slave, and then this strange day came called
Trix, when a whole, about three thousand of
them in a great big hall, with a
big balcony, a little like that tragedy we
heard in Hyatt just recently, that sort of
thing, and all the hall, full of all
the lords of the Philistines, all the big
bodies, this royal wedding, that kind of thing,
and all these people up there, the mass
underneath, three thousand, and they said, let's have
a joke, their great enemy had been Samson,
who bothered them and done these things, let's
have a joke, let's get old Samson in
and we'll mock him in the middle, and
this great hall, whatever the architecture of those
days was, had two strong iron stone pillars
in the middle, which held it up, and
they put Samson in between the two pillars,
which apparently must have been just a feet
or two apart, and suddenly he saw it,
his hair had grown again, he suddenly said,
I've got it, I'm a man who uses
my muscles, I've done this, I use my
muscles, he tore them to pieces, and the
whole three thousand crashed to pieces into a
death, so in one act, through his flesh,
God destroyed the Philistines, if he hadn't been
a flesh man, he was a spirit man,
he wasn't a flesh man, he was a
spirit man, he had a little weakness that
way, he was a spirit man, so don't
misjudge his flesh, judge his spirit, his spirit
came out, God said this to him, and
that's the way it says, he did greater
things in his death than he did in
his life, so I love some of these
men, I've written some of these records on
these men, and I don't know how on
earth I got to that one, oh I
think on the gaining, on the gaining, he
stuck it and he gained, so faith has
an element of continuing gaining, besides the word
of faith, where it's a major project, oh
my goodness, so that's what we said, and
therefore that hopefully maybe, whether you feel the
total commission into being with us as part
of union life, maybe some of you do,
quite apart from that, that you may have
caught the principle of intercession, and so it
may be that you may have caught a
little more, see the end of union life
intercession is out to others, and we said
all along, the little danger you might have
been in, it's a precious word, little danger
of union life, oh I'm union, that's wonderful,
I'm not, I have a Christ, that's wonderful,
and you must start by being through with
that, you must, but that's not union life,
union life is the person in you is
the person from others, because that's all God
is, the only God is, is the God
who has brought us into being, and he
might perfect us, and all he is, his
perfection is his universe, particularly his sun-village
universe, therefore I'm only in perfection when I'm
on, in God's wavelength, and God's wavelength is
out of love wavelength, not in me, out
from me, so union life only, it's really,
we hyphen the word intercession, union life heads
up in intercession, when we use the word
a lot, we have no better way of
saying that, so we try to say that
these days to you, and maybe some workers
say, now is there any more to be
said about that, you've one or two made
some comments already, any other area we've touched
on there which is a comment you would
help, so okay, yes, you've
jumped into an area which I haven't explained
around there, yes, you see, are we spirit
or body, we're spirit, our body is a
temporary agent, we're not body, we're spirit, soul
and body, because soul also is the expression
of the body through its emotions and reasons,
it's all together, in other words, we've had
it of course, we've talked about it before,
spirit means your real you, your spirit, your
spirit is I am, what does spirit mean,
I don't know, you can't define universals, you
only define universals by a particular form, you
can't define electricity except by light or heat,
what is it, I don't know, oh that's
it, it has a form to come out,
so you only define the thing by the
form of universal, now speech is universal, it's
the form of God, you can't define it,
so you can't really say who you are,
that's the difficulty, and therefore you can't say
who God is, that's why some people get
wrong about having a personal experience of God,
what is a personal experience of a person
is universal, it's being, it's being, see, what
is a person, well you know, don't you,
by Paul's definition is you know, that's the
basis, you know things, I know, what's that
mean, I don't know, I just know, that's
all, I don't know what it means to
know, I just do know, and I love,
I've got desire, well I just have, life
is, there's the uprising of all kinds, all
through, right after the atomic, put an electron
on, everything is desire, everything is basically sex,
it's all part, that's all the basis, because
it's the being's universe, to find its mates
and unions, that's the whole thing, to the,
the union, the marriage of the lamb of
course, the whole thing is that, so you've
got this love, you've got knowing and loving,
and well I just choose it, how do
I do it, I don't know, I will
take that, I will eat that food, I
will go there, what do you know, I
don't know, don't you see you can't define
self, you can be it, what is it,
somehow you are, you can't, you can say
I've got a body, and you can say
I've got emotions, but that's out of form,
inside that you are knower, well you're just
knower, you just live knowing, you live desiring
and you live choosing, what else, now see
that's spirit, that's what God is really, a
spirit, now, you were asking about, illness, oh
yes, well now of course illness is the
thing which will attack the body, that's how
for, I've now got self, my real self
is a fixed union, in which this, my
human self in marvellous grace is joined to
himself and we're one self, now, you do
get the paradox in that of course, the
paradox means two contrasts which don't seem to
meet, and all, that's the, which is in
all life, like in atomic power, you can't
have positive and negative, electricity must have positive
and negative, the two opposites, they meet and
produce effects, um, but therefore your basis is,
uh, not two, but one, that's what we
get to, and here is your one spirit,
now you're one, therefore you're now saying I
am I, yet I'm not I, I'm he,
yet I am I, it's just, this mix
up, I'm not I, I'm he, yet I
am I, uh, live as I live, yet
not I, because it's like I now live,
see, it swings up and down, in relation
to, that's you, now that's your, that's why
I say as I said to you, you
can't know God, you can be God, anymore,
how do you know yourself, you just are,
you don't know who you are, you are,
and God's like that, so when you've moved
into, um, the heart of this business, um,
you, uh, you aren't speaking, uh, uh, what
you call a, a, a, a personal experience
of God, it's, it's, you go beyond that,
a personal experience, what means, you want something
outside yourself, when he, it's a mixture, he
is outside, inside, I talk with him all
the time, of course I'm going to meet
him, much quicker than you are, I'll be
popped off in a year or two now,
I'll pop off, I'll meet him, and so
that's, that's the mixture, I both am he
and meet him, how do you make that
out, because that's what Jesus was, so Jesus
said, uh, uh, uh, I am a father
of one, if you see me, you see
the father, yeah, I talk to the father,
how do you do too, how do you
talk to the person you are, so it
is a paradox all the way through, he
is his eternal self, he is father, son,
spirit, right hand of the majesty on high,
there he is, in all his glory, and
his love, and some say we relate to
him in different forms, we relate to him
as this wonderful person, his father, son, spirit,
and the marvel he welcomes us and loves
us, and we go into the song of
Solomon, where we are conscious of the mating,
the shepherd and the shepherdess, the marvellous representation
of course, of the, in the physical and
the total union, so you've got the two
there, yet at the same time, at the
same time he is you, uh, uh, so,
um, both are true, but, uh, you, you,
you don't, you don't get this one safe,
until you've got this one safe, because this
one left you thinking you're separate, you're not
separate, you're a mix-up, you're a mix
-up, you're both he and not he, that's
the thing, you're both he and you're yourself,
how do you make it up, it's a
vast marvel, so God bless the marvels, see
what I mean, so your basis is, I
am he, he is me, yet I'm talking
with him too, both are true, but you've
got to talk with this one, if you
talk with that one, oh where is he,
oh where is he, oh I'm he, so
the basis isn't having a consciousness of God,
as opposed, it's being, it's not having a
consciousness of God, it's being, I am that,
that in itself is a consciousness, the same
consciousness which is in yourself, now that may
or may not mean much to you, but
this is the basis, this is the union,
then you don't bother about finding who you
are, you operate as he, you become, you
come home operating as he, yet at the
same time you talk with him, and go
to meet him, and they're both the two,
when you know it, it's just fine, when
you don't know it, it's just puzzlement, when
you know it, you know what you know,
it's fine, when you don't, oh what's this
queer stuff, this queer stuff, now you see,
the body and the soul are the means
by which he expresses, like the lamp, electricity
must have a lamp to have a light,
it must have a wire to be a
power, it must have it, so God must
have persons, outer persons to express his personhood,
that's our soul body, now that's what's attacked,
that's what has been seized by the devil,
that's why it says at the fall, he's
a living soul, in the last Adam, we're
quickening spirits, that's wonderful, in 1 Corinthians 15,
we start as Adam and Eve, first Adam,
living souls, which means selfhood, it's spirits mixed
up with it, but spirits rather buried, and
my I-hood is buried in myself, which
is really Satan, yes myself, my emotions, my
will, my lusts, my souls, which is Satan,
which is the lust of your father, he
will do that one, so he's operating through
you, and to that extent he's immortalised us,
he has got our bodies, and our bodies
are not redeemed, that's the one area which
is not redeemed, that's the only area which
we live by hope, in Romans 8, it
says in your body you live by hope,
in all other ways you live by faith,
faith means you've got it, hope means you
haven't got it, so on the body area,
he specifically says in Romans 8, it's only
by hope, and hope which you see is
not hope, for what a man sees, what
he has hope for, that's over in 24,
we say by hope, the body, waiting for
a redeemed body, hope we see is not
hope, so in that sense our redemption doesn't
include physical perfection, physical, moral perfection yes, but
not physical, so don't be kidding, that's where
the body comes in, so body is something
to which it has been occupied by Satan,
it's now right, we're now the body of
the temple of the Holy Spirit, but it
hasn't given us a final redeemed body, because
we're to be part of this world, see
if we had redeemed bodies we'd float about
through doors and so on, it'd be no
good to the world, so we must have
people who don't float through doors try to
open them and go through them, so he
must have us bodily for the privilege of
being the light in the world, so he
doesn't intend us to have immortal bodies yet,
now you see the problem is because we're
human and we're hurt, we like to have
immortal bodies, we don't like pain, we don't
like hurt, when my ear ached a bit,
I took some stuff, I was glad that
Sandy came up with some dope, some cocaine
or something and stuck it into me, so
I had no more pain, so I'm like
that, I don't ask what it was, I
just took it, so you're saying there's some
stuff here and there, but now the point
is this, can I learn to say I'm
not body, now when I had that pain
I said that's not really me, that's not
really me, I'm in God's health, my ear's
in God's health, I'm in God's health, I
affirm that against the feeling, I don't like
it, because my ear's hurting, so you've got
a mixture there, you can't help being hurt
and feeling it, but I'm saying now to
you, the real answer is, praise the Lord
you meant it temporally, you were me in
me, and you're in the spirit, you meant
me to be temporally in the body which
is hurt, now that's the first state of
healing, and that's what the Churches don't give,
that's why I say don't give sympathy, give
truth, don't say poor thing you're hurt, let's
pray to get out of your hurt, say
praise God you're in the real unhurt condition
now, although you're hurt you're not hurt, in
God you're in his health, or in his
life, if you say so, praise him, and
praise him temporally means you'll be hurt down
here, accept it temporally, now that releases you
from, oh I must be having healing, so
that of course is the trick I'm afraid,
of the healers, they get great response, because
people want to get bodies healed, so it's
the most attractive thing to offer healing, but
be careful, I wouldn't do it for anything,
it's a waste of time, what's the use
of offering healing when they get limp again
the next day, I want an unlimped healing,
so see we talk for instance about the
poor, notice when Jesus gave his great annunciation,
announcement, in the Capernaum, that this day this
message is fulfilled, your spirit lords upon me,
to preach the gospel to the poor, he
didn't say to feed the poor, preach the
gospel, because feeding is decided here, the Bible
still says if you trust the Lord and
Tammy he'll feed you, I still say, and
you'll probably find that, of course it's Tammy,
if you trust her they'll feed you to
come, the real trust is not to give
them food, you must give if you can,
if you can't give them better give food,
but I go out to give other food,
I told you how I worked among lepers,
lepers are pretty tragic, they have no noses,
no fingers, they're bedraggled and horrible and diseased,
and your human flesh goes against them, and
they're bedraggled spirits, they're miserable, hurt and neglected,
and self-pitying and all the rest of
it, so we don't start, in those days
you couldn't do much with the body, if
you catch a leper before it starts visible
you get it in the germ form stuff,
but once the leprosy has come out you're
in trouble, and in those days we didn't
even know what was going on inside here,
so we had to handle the outside, we
had about a thousand lepers, we gathered them
out, but our precious little woman said, the
point is you've got Jesus, you're a son
of God, he forgave your sins, and your
sins are not your leprosy, your sins are
your grumbles and your hatred, he wiped those
out, he's your precious, he's your lover, he's
in you, oh my son of God, I've
got to tell my brother that, and off
they live with their old bit of stick
and no toes, they stomp away, some way
or the other, oh come on you're a
son of God, that's healing, they become healers
and they remain unhealed down here, in fact
most of the lepers they can't be, of
course it is mercy when you get, you
don't feel it after a bit, that's a
mercy when you lose it, that's why they
fall in fire and get burned, they don't
even feel it, so you go to a
place where you don't feel it, but for
a time, but you see my point, the
point isn't to get that leprosy body healed
first, do what you can for it, if
to be a healed person, you're a healed
person in your leprosy body, you're a son
of God, go and tell the other fellows
they're sons of God, through Jesus Christ, so
I'm saying, well what we should reverse it,
is to say, don't go around saying, poor
thing, sick, say praise God you're in perfect
health, or temporarily in this, but you're in
perfect health, you're in God's health, praise God
you're his eternal love, praise him, and accept
this temporarily, accept it temporarily, well they won't
like it, the flesh won't like it of
course, then when you say that, then you're
free to put a right prayer, then you
say Lord I praise you, but you do
too few things of the body, do some
as well will you Lord, take this thing
off, and very often he does, when you're
free from, you know, self-seeking and grumbling
and fear, and in faith, faith lets the
Holy Spirit through, and the Spirit does quicken
mortal bodies to a point, and we do
get quickened, some don't, then you don't bother,
so you aren't saying it need be, you
say well God if you do a little
this way, I'll be pleased, if not I'll
still praise you, so you get those who
don't get healed, they bring their praises just
because they're not healed, oh how can this
person praise God, we have some precious ones
here don't we, like that, light shines out
of them, so sometimes God leaves you, in
fact we all do, don't kid yourself, either
your eyes are wrong, or your teeth are,
or your ears are, or your toes are,
don't kid me, there isn't a perfect person
in this room, I can see spectacles, I've
got ear things, and I'm sure most of
you have got false teeth, and I don't
know what goes on in your tummy and
toes, I'll leave you to explain that, so
none of us are healthy, don't be silly,
don't be silly, we have a modicum of
health, enough to get on with, praise the
Lord, at some deliverances, but the real deliverances,
we are delivered anyhow, if we are delivered,
praise God, if we're not, we're still delivered,
that's the health, that's how we decide to
present it, we think it's closer to the
real truth, it was the moment to put
that in focus, it's difficult for us because
we're flesh people, to see Jesus had a
problem, how could Jesus come, unknown person, says
he was God, and people hadn't got the
Holy Spirit, couldn't see inner Christ, couldn't see
inner light, how could he let them know
he was something starting, so he did utter
healings, that's why John calls his miracles signs,
oh, oh, there's something, listen to him, by
no other way could he have caused the
tension in himself, but he wasn't tensing himself
to get physically healed, he was tensing to
get disciples to go into the wall and
preach the gospel, his aim was to get
the Holy Ghost in the people wasn't it,
and let the body die and the Holy
Ghost be God and preach the gospel, so
his healings were temporary forms, so don't say,
oh if Jesus did it, I did it,
that's why Jesus said you do a greater
thing, Jesus couldn't give the Holy Spirit, he
hadn't died yet, he couldn't give the Holy
Spirit, so he'd say you do a greater
thing, when the Holy Spirit comes you give
people the Holy Spirit, that's the difference, so
don't mistake saying, oh because Jesus healed we
ought to, the healing isn't this stuff, the
healing is this eternal stuff, like walking Christ,
that's healing, and those who don't know that,
God bless them, let them do what they
can, God bless them, for helping the sick
and the needy, God bless them, but if
you have the whole, give the whole, if
those have part, they can give their part,
but let us who give the whole, give
the whole, so that's the answer, well now
that's covered some things, there were questions I
hardly touched on, of course, on the blood
and body of Christ, we have a little
time left, need explanation on that, and that
is important, because you don't get clarified in,
I'm going back now, I'm going back to
clarify a little in the second level, you
don't get the level, second level clear, of
course, until you've understood, that your problem wasn't
your sins, your problem was, the sin operator
occupied you, the sin operator was Satan, he
got in by the symbol of eating the
fruit, he got into you, and he operated
sin by you, and therefore Jesus gave the
great word and he says, you are of
your father the devil, lust of your father
you will do, he's great deceit, Satan was,
he claimed to be independent, he wasn't independent,
he's God's agent, but he thought he was,
he tricked himself, I'll be with God, I'll
run my own show, and he infected us
with that independence, you're an independent person, no
we're not, you never are, you'll run, mother
of God, he tricked you, he says, I'm
in you, but I'll make you think it's
you, so the trouble is, he made us
think we're the sinners, we never were the
sinners, we're expressing the sin spirit, but because
we're free people, we did cooperate, in that
sense we're sinners because we did the thing,
but we did this as the agent, as
the agency to the agent, the agent was
Satan inside us, the agency was us, now
you see, therefore the real trouble in humanity
isn't the sins which are products of Satan
as agent through the human agency, in which
we cooperated, so we did them, so basically
he's a sinner, we're close sinners really, so
when the redemption has to come, there had
to be first of all, because we're so
blind, something which would show us, we're out
of the consequence of our sins, and so
we get, that's the outer form, the babyhood
form, wrath, judgement, curse, unclear as hell, and
that's why the first form is the outer
Jesus, the Bible says, whom God has set
forth, that's Romans 3 and Galatians 2, set
forth means apart from you, that's the illustration
of John 3.16, the serpent in the
wilderness, the serpent's apart from the children of
Israel, look, look and live, so the first
area is outside yourself, you're a sinner, and
he died in his tree and shed his
blood, and the blood of course is evident,
he really died, that's why it's put in
Leviticus, don't touch the blood, the blood's the
life, so like the blood on the little
doorpost, marvelous revelation John had, this is the
lamb, the lamb, we're lambs you know, he's
a lamb that has been slain, that's all
we ever believe, a lamb slain by other
people, eaten up by other people, that's the
deity, now he's a lamb on the throne,
isn't that something, a lamb on the throne,
what an idea, that the living cause a
lamb, it's ridiculous isn't it, to the human
mind, this is just one, and so you
see in that bloodshed, but there he really
died, there he is, set forth, there he
is, and the soldiers proved he died, they
didn't break his legs and pierced him to
show he died, but then you go further,
when you see further, say of course death
isn't that physical stuff at all, a death
is where you go who's inside the body,
and you find there's a destiny, and the
destiny is put in the biblical terms, there's
a spirit in prison, because hell is self
-centeredness, hell is people by self-centered self,
so spirits in prison are spirits in self
-centeredness really, in prison itself, that's hell, and
so there are these spirits, which is the
word in the bible used is spirits in
prison, hell, so either when you're dead, if
you're unredeemed, your spirit goes there, or if
you're redeemed it goes up just maybe perfectly,
the heavenly juices, now it says Jesus completed
their blood sacrifice when he went to hell,
and hell couldn't hold him because he couldn't
get out, because he represented us, that's his
faith, only God could get him out, satan
couldn't hold him, he didn't belong to satan,
so God made his destiny, and that closed,
all that closed, all the consequences of sins,
that's the precious blood, sins, wrath, judgment, death,
toll, destiny, all went out in the precious
blood, but that's not the problem, the problem
isn't the sins, it's the sin producer, the
sin agent, agent who is satan, the sin
person, the father of the devil, he says
it seems the beginning, in 1 John it
says the devil seems the beginning, Jesus said
he lies in the beginning, he originated, so
we're told the origin of sin is a
person, satan is a person, he's a murderer,
he's a liar, sins are the beginning, sins
are merely his product, so when you talk
about sin, you're merely talking about in the
form of, in which he appears in sin
forms, but the sinner satan, now then, here
you've got the problem, the sinner satan operates
by us, how can we be redeemed unless
not only are the sins and their destiny,
their consequences taken out to hell, but the
sin themselves put out, who operates us, and
that's the body of Christ, and that's Paul's
great revelation, it's part of his Galatians revelation,
and he puts it in marvellous form in
the one characteristic area to which you need
to underline, which is 2 Corinthians 5, from
about verse 10 to the end of the
chapter, that's where he says two great statements,
one is you see him hanging there, set
forth, wait a minute, don't you know when
he died, that's your body, oh, well he
says, well thus judge, when one died, hung
there dead, all died, because it was just,
oh that's your body then, oh that's a
big leap, not his body for you going
to hell taking sins consequence, well look again,
what it means, find out, that body is
your body, but what's your body, your body
is expressed as satan, your body expresses your
spirit, your body is the temple of the
spirit, which spirit, the temple of the spirit,
which spirit, now the spirit of satan there
is expressed through me, therefore if that body
represented me, my body expresses the spirit, so
we get that marvellous statement in the last
verse of that same chapter, for God, his
own father, made him to be sin for
us, made him sin, but sin is the
spirit of sin, expressing himself, the murder of
the beginning, the love of the beginning, expressing
himself through a human, God made him how,
because our bodies express satan, so if that,
his body expresses, he was expressing satan, made
sin is practically the same as saying made
satan, because sin is saint, sin is only
a word term used for satan, who is
a person, it's easier to me to operate
by a person than the principle, satan is
an operating self-centred person, now then, link
it up, he doesn't say, you go back
from that, link that to 2 Corinthians 5,
you go back from that to Romans 6,
there you get this, the body of death,
in Romans 3, that's the blood, that's blood
shed for our sins, that doesn't come up,
Romans 6 is an identification, baptism, you know,
burial of baptism and so on, now that's
the body of death, it says there the
body of Christ, in Romans 6, and he
says, in that he died, he died unto
sin once, hello, not for our sins, he
died unto sin, it's the body of Christ,
not the, not the, knowing this, see,
like in his death, baptised apostle, like in
his death, our old man is crucified with
him, the body of sin might be destroyed,
that's the body of sin of course, now
his body you see, that is the body
of crucifixion, not the blood, and our body
of sin is destroyed as an agency for
containing sin, because his body died, the tense
form is not served sin, for he that
is dead is freed from sin, not sins,
so it says, in that he died, he
died unto sin once, and that simply means
of course, that when a body dies, it's
separated from the spirit in it, so when
that body of dying representing our body was
made sin, out went the sin, when the
body died, and that death, the dead, the
resurrection, the dead body, three days in the
grave, and that's where it says, into the
same body came the spirit, put death and
crucifixion, quickened by the spirit, that's in 1
Peter, now the new spirit sin, so say,
that body representing us now has a new
spirit, now that's, that's, that's, that's the deliverance
through the body operation, deliverance from the consequences
of sin, his destinies, through the blood operation,
but the real thing is, how can I
get rid of this fella, this false thing
operating me, he's out in the death of
Christ, in the body of death of Christ,
we've made sin, died, died unto this thing
which was only me, when he died, it
went out, so it's not in me, that
spirit's not in me, and the other one
said, yes, yes, he just died, he didn't
die to, he didn't excuse our sins, no,
he became them and literally took our sin
to hell, because the wages of sin yes,
yes, yes, that's right, fantastic, he took our
sins to hell, in his bloody death, and
we're going to heaven, he took this principle
of sin, the hell, hell's principle, the very
principle itself of a hell, out of us,
in his body death, the principle of hell
is safe, he went out for keeps, and
you don't reverse that, he died, he died
unto sin once, therefore if you die, you
die unto sin once, don't repeat it, so
if you're linked to Jesus Christ, you've been
cut out in that dead body, from that
forever, he has no more to say, to
shout and make noises at you, scratch you
with his dirty nails, that's not what he
can do, and the church ritual come in
then, is it blasphemy to keep doing it,
you know, no, it's not blasphemy, because that
says, of course, Jesus gave us the memorial,
if you want it, it has a memorial
supper, but it was done once and for
all, oh yes, it's blasphemy in the Roman
times, oh yes, that's blasphemy, that's mass, that's
why God blessed the Romans, but I don't
know how any of you Roman Catholics in
the end will remain where you are, you
may not observe what you're doing, but you're
celebrating a lie, every time you go to
mass, it says he's re-killed, that's a
lie, he doesn't die again, and you're eating
his precious blood, that's a lie, so you
precious Romans have to face it one day,
although it may not matter to you, because
if any of you will glow, you'll glow
with the spirit, bless you, you'll glow with
the Holy Spirit, the precious Roman Catholics glow
with the spirit, one day you have to
face it, that you are still practicing a
lie, it may not matter, don't bother, let
the Holy Spirit give you in time come,
it's more important to me, glow with the
spirit, than fight the flesh anyhow, so don't
fight the masses, it's a present, but you'll
learn one day, it is, you're right, it
is, yes, yes.
We know that Satan indwells us, but he's
not omnipresent, the sort of question that's going
to come up is that God is omnipresent,
he's everywhere.
Why do you say he isn't omnipresent?
Well, that's what I'm asking, this is my
question.
Well, if he's a spirit that works in
the two of his beings, he's omnipresent in
all the world, the two of his beings
are the whole lost world, a spirit that
now works in the two of his beings,
so he's omnipresent in every person anyhow, and
he, I mean, then he's called the spirit
of the world, see 1 Corinthians 2, called
the spirit of the world, that means he's
a world spirit, it's a very interesting phrase,
it's very seldom referred to in 1 Corinthians
2, that we have not the spirit of
the world, well, the spirit of the world,
of course, is Satan, doesn't matter, I'll just
put it there, it's a weird verse to
it, we've got to see the spirit of
the world, well, I say he is omnipresent,
the spirit is actually we all are, the
fact is we're all in each other, because
he's, we're part of the omnipresent person, and
the spirit's universal, that's why I say you
can't know yourself, because you're universal, you're not
particular, you are sort of particular, but now
I say you're not particular, and deep down
you know it, something in you is reaching
out, why do I reach out, because I'm
part of the reaching out, I'm, you know,
the marvellous thing today is science is finding
this, science is saying some remarkable things, there's
a book out, which you put me on
to, which isn't by a Christian, but it
has some fascinating stuff, a Tao of physics,
Tao was the old word, Lao Tzu was
the great seer of China, maybe 2000 years
before Christ, but some of those men saw
things, he saw a universal being, a person
behind all, he called him Tao, T-A
-O, so he saw a universal being in
operation, and all through history there have been
men who have seen that, you can trace
them up, they sometimes call it cosmic consciousness,
now the interesting thing, this is the first
class scientist, this man, I've read it twice,
fascinating, so he explains science on a level
most of us can take it, he goes
to marvellous facts that they can't explain, that
one particle is all particles, what does that
mean, they're ridiculous, how can one particle be
all, particles, billion, billion, billion, billion, all, what
do they mean, that science is getting staggered
by facts, that they can't, there are mathematical
facts they can't explain, but that's, one is
all, one is all, and some of you
had a glimpse, I haven't had, I've had
someone mention, some I know, Alan Parker has,
you have seen the universe, suddenly you see
it, sometimes you see the whole world aglow
with light, some of you may have it,
it never leaves you, it's sometimes called the
mystic, it's a real thing, you suddenly see,
it's all one beautiful glory, and you're part
of it, that's it, so you see, spirit
is universal, well if the human spirit is
universal, surely the satanic spirit is too, and
it's put out universally by Satan, so I
have no difficulty that Satan is as wide
out as anybody else in getting, reaching people,
I have no difficulty with that person, and
I think I've got some, some scriptural backgrounds
to it, and nowadays scientific backgrounds, so if
any of you get that book, you won't
find, no Jesus Christ, no love, they don't
know love, it's a marvellous presentation of the
unity of the universe, and that some people
always recognize that unity, and science is coming
to it now, science is marrying mysticism, that's
what he says, it's now the mystics always
said these things, science now says the same
thing, fascinating to me, and if you put
back what we know as mystic is Jesus
Christ as a person, and God as a
person, you put that back in it, which
we do, it's a precious thing, so if
any of you want to have a little
bite of heresy, find out where to get
that book, Betty will tell you where to
get it, she infiltrates me with all heresies,
well now what, so that's, that's, so symbols,
symbols are out of form, everything is symbols,
this is a symbol, Abraham hadn't got this,
Joseph hadn't got this, he knew a thing
from righteousness, and Noah hadn't got this, this
came with Moses, a good deal, 400 years
after Abraham, it began, so this book isn't
the ultimate, it's the human expression of the
ultimate, the precious, holy expression, I believe it,
word for word, I believe it's given us
for a poor way when humans need something
a little out of the hat to cling
on to, not to live, but so we
get our guidebook, but the guidebook is, the
guide is the spirit through the guidebook, and
through the guidebook you get the guide, so
I hold holy by this book, I soak
in it, because it's authority, what can, why,
why should a person believe me, who am
I anyhow, if I say I've got a
spirit, who says that, but it is said,
it's a little different, I say well the
word of God, I fight the word of
God, so I must say the word of
God, and because, as a basis, but it's
only a symbol, so in the same sense
baptism is a symbol, or holy communion is
a symbol, an outer form of, of, which
may help and strengthen, in busy week, to
meet with a bit of fellowship and have
a little holy communion, people vary, there are
the Quakers and so on, who don't, to
which I'm close to myself, who don't use
symbols, that's, that's, most people do, well that's
it, there's some, one of you did raise
that question of baptism, that's, that's it, so
if you want to waste, waste your time
being baptised, baptise, that's up to you, it's
up to you, and the type of baptism,
some crazy people baptise infants having their walk
in darkness, of course white people, they immerse,
silence, I didn't get a vast response to
that, so well that's it, have we had
enough, I think you poor things, yes, yes,
I have a question, yes, on Sunday when
we arrived you said that most of the
people here knew that they were intercessors and
that they had been called, yes, and that
you would like to go into it a
little further, well I've,
I've tried to go, I don't think I
had to go farther, it was like when
Richard kept saying, I asked him, he wouldn't
even answer, because some answers you mustn't give,
you must find out, how do you operate,
by being who you are, that's what you
are, in other words, if you're conscious of
what we mean by intercession, there is something
grabbed you, to which you're related, which God
has put through by you, and by others
maybe as well, something is a call, maybe
an individual thing, God's purpose is to put
through a work of grace by you, or
a work of deliverance, or salvation, or something,
all right, so that's your background, now with
that, you see, there's your faith, God's going
to do it, now you just, just operate
by just being yourself, just be yourself, in
yourself, that means whatever God shows you, and
I can't tell what ways He may cause
you to bear some witness, and, and you,
you, you may be receiving the, the, the
oppositions, you see, that God meant you to
have them, I can't say beyond that, because
it covers, it covers up the practical life,
how, who can say, I don't mind if
it's a practical life, you, but don't try
and do a thing, be yourself, in that
situation, and see yourself as an intercessor, and
that affects your spirit and outlook, and probably
affects as many things you say, and then
you live your ordinary life, but behind this
ordinary life is the thing, now He made
you to do some things, I mean, He
told me to go to Africa, I was
years in Africa, He's made me, made me
spend years going to India, and, and the
Amazon, the places, taking the gospel, I had
to do that, so part of my decision
was getting to places and beginning to help
Jesus to get to them, so He may
call you to do things, but only God
can tell you what, so He may call
you in your intercession to, and tell you
to do something, like in this union life,
you know, to take up some, like some
part of that, you know, helping to put
the magazines on something, different practical things you
can do, or have a group in your
home, or whatever it may be, can I
say more, can I say more, can I
help her more, can you, how can you
explain operating intercession, I don't know, because it's,
how can you play, explain operating a new
birth, when a person's born again, you don't
tell them how to live, you say, yes,
now you're a new person, and you'll find
God will keep you in His, in, you
walk His ways, and He'll, He'll preserve you
in temptation, you don't define to them how
they do it, do you, you can't, and
then they get some urge, and you get
a bit of witness comes out of them,
and they live, so can anyone help me,
I can't see how more practically I can
say, how you actually practice, Amy, give us
a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so,
I think so, he just gets out of
his own way, you can't stop him, can
you, that's the best you can say, I
think, so the main thing is being sure
that you know He is, you are He,
be sure you say it, until it's you,
and then you come out of your own
way, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes, yes, that's right, thank you, we did
that yesterday, something, yes, yesterday, we did a
certain area of that Mark 11, operating the
Word of Faith, we can't go into that
more, but that's, that is part of our
key message of intercession, that you gain your,
your place by this faith operation, it's Word
of Faith, and all that, thank you, dear,
there's no idea, that.