1
00:00:02,380 --> 00:00:04,460
So, you know now, I stop and think,

2
00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:06,000
am I willing to practice it before I

3
00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,500
preach it.

4
00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,600
Matthew 16 verse 24 and 25 Then said

5
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,260
Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will

6
00:00:14,260 --> 00:00:17,680
come after me, let him deny himself, and

7
00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,920
take up his cross, and follow me.

8
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,300
For whosoever will save his life, shall lose

9
00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:23,520
it.

10
00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:26,140
And whosoever will lose his life for my

11
00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:27,580
sake, shall find it.

12
00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:30,920
Now let's go to 2nd Corinthians chapter 4.

13
00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,560
I think you'll notice that all the passages

14
00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,380
I'm going to read, all three passages, have

15
00:00:35,380 --> 00:00:38,340
got to do with a balance between death

16
00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:39,380
and life.

17
00:00:39,820 --> 00:00:43,120
2nd Corinthians chapter 4, beginning perhaps at verse

18
00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,520
7.

19
00:00:43,980 --> 00:00:46,760
2nd Corinthians 4 verse 7 But we have

20
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,180
this treasure in earth and vessel, that the

21
00:00:49,180 --> 00:00:51,260
excellency of the power may be of God,

22
00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:52,580
and not of us.

23
00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,600
We are troubled on every side, yet not

24
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,120
distressed.

25
00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,460
We are perplexed, but not in despair.

26
00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,720
Persecuted, but not forsaken.

27
00:01:00,940 --> 00:01:02,500
Cast down, but not destroyed.

28
00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:06,420
Always bearing about in the body, the dying

29
00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:07,300
of the Lord Jesus.

30
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,900
That the life also of Jesus, might be

31
00:01:09,900 --> 00:01:11,620
made manifest in our body.

32
00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,000
For we who live, are always delivered unto

33
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,460
death.

34
00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,580
For Jesus' sake, that the life also of

35
00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:21,560
Jesus, might be made manifest in our mortal

36
00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:21,960
flesh.

37
00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:26,000
So then, death worketh in us, but life

38
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,920
in you.

39
00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,380
And then in Philippians chapter 3.

40
00:01:29,940 --> 00:01:31,280
I hope I can get around to preach

41
00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,760
on these.

42
00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:33,140
They're so good.

43
00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:37,840
Philippians chapter 3, we begin at verse 8.

44
00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,240
Read through verse 10.

45
00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:41,660
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but

46
00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:41,980
lost.

47
00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:43,840
For the excellency of the knowledge of Christ

48
00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,660
Jesus my Lord.

49
00:01:44,740 --> 00:01:45,980
For whom I have suffered the loss of

50
00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:46,440
all things.

51
00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,980
And do count them but done, that I

52
00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:49,840
may win Christ.

53
00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,780
And be found in him, not having mine

54
00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:54,640
own righteousness which is of the law.

55
00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,700
But that which is through the faith of

56
00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:57,040
Christ.

57
00:01:57,420 --> 00:02:00,420
The righteousness which is of God, by faith.

58
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,000
That I may know him, and the power

59
00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,880
of his resurrection.

60
00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:05,900
And the fellowship of his suffering.

61
00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:08,720
Being made conformable unto his death.

62
00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:11,460
If by any means, I might attain unto

63
00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:12,560
the resurrection of the dead.

64
00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:15,200
You know for years and years, I mean

65
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,520
20 years or more.

66
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,940
I used to read that 10th verse.

67
00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:21,300
And I would say, Lord I know it's

68
00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:21,840
in the Bible.

69
00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:23,520
I'm sure it's right.

70
00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,340
But to be honest, I can't say it.

71
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,240
And I don't want to say anything, I

72
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,740
don't mean.

73
00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:30,780
I mean Paul said it, it's in the

74
00:02:30,780 --> 00:02:31,040
Bible.

75
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,300
But to say that I want to know

76
00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:34,820
the fellowship of your suffering.

77
00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,140
I just can't bring myself to say it.

78
00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,260
So I have a pending file that I

79
00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:40,060
put things in.

80
00:02:40,540 --> 00:02:42,200
When I can't ignore them and I'm not

81
00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,120
ready to deal with them.

82
00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,000
So I just have my pending file and

83
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,780
I slip them in there.

84
00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:48,400
Well gradually over the years the Lord has

85
00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,120
dealt with me.

86
00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,980
To the point where with a kind of

87
00:02:51,980 --> 00:02:53,620
gulp, I can say it.

88
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,440
That I may know him, the power of

89
00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,140
his resurrection.

90
00:02:57,860 --> 00:02:59,200
The fellowship of his suffering.

91
00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:01,500
Being made conformable unto his death.

92
00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,960
I hope I'll be able to explain this.

93
00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760
In some ways it's perhaps difficult to say

94
00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:06,940
it.

95
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,700
But this is the second law of spiritual

96
00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:12,520
progress that I have learned.

97
00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:13,360
It's in the scripture.

98
00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:16,400
Let's go back to Matthew 16 and look

99
00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,200
what he says there.

100
00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:18,460
First of all.

101
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,940
If any man will come after me let

102
00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:22,000
him deny himself.

103
00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:24,680
And take up his cross and follow me.

104
00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,640
I believe there are certain specific steps.

105
00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:29,620
That we cannot avoid if we're going to

106
00:03:29,620 --> 00:03:30,220
follow the Lord.

107
00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160
The first one is to deny ourself.

108
00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:35,240
Somebody said that's very simple.

109
00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:37,140
To deny means to say no.

110
00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,000
And to deny yourself is to say no

111
00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,880
to yourself.

112
00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,000
Yourself says I want and you say no.

113
00:03:44,460 --> 00:03:47,180
And I believe that is really the first

114
00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:49,520
requirement for following the Lord.

115
00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:52,300
Is learning to say no to myself.

116
00:03:52,780 --> 00:03:55,740
Let him deny himself, take up his cross

117
00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:56,800
and follow me.

118
00:03:57,300 --> 00:03:59,640
The second thing that Jesus says we have

119
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,280
to do is take up our cross.

120
00:04:01,620 --> 00:04:04,220
Now I do believe the cross is voluntary.

121
00:04:04,860 --> 00:04:06,540
It isn't imposed upon you.

122
00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:09,120
You can take it or refuse it.

123
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,080
But if you don't take it you can't

124
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,560
follow him.

125
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,980
What is the cross?

126
00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,800
Can be defined in many ways.

127
00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:17,019
But I think one of the best definitions

128
00:04:17,019 --> 00:04:18,519
I heard is the cross.

129
00:04:18,779 --> 00:04:22,120
Is where your will and God's will cross.

130
00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,500
There is a cross for everyone.

131
00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,800
There's a hymn that says that.

132
00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:27,140
It's also true.

133
00:04:27,780 --> 00:04:30,440
The cross is the place where you die.

134
00:04:30,940 --> 00:04:32,160
You don't have to go there.

135
00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:35,360
But we sung a very very beautiful song.

136
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,980
Which said that if we follow Islam.

137
00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:39,320
It'll lead us where?

138
00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,380
To Calvary.

139
00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,800
There is no bypassing that.

140
00:04:43,060 --> 00:04:44,000
There is no other way.

141
00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,860
Let's look on the next verse.

142
00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:47,120
Verse 25.

143
00:04:47,740 --> 00:04:50,360
For whosoever will save his life shall lose

144
00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:50,540
it.

145
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,060
And whosoever will lose his life for my

146
00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:54,040
sake shall find it.

147
00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,720
Now that's the paradox.

148
00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,120
If you want to find life you have

149
00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,700
to lose it.

150
00:04:59,060 --> 00:05:00,760
And you have to lose it before you

151
00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,700
find it.

152
00:05:02,140 --> 00:05:03,200
It's always faith.

153
00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:05,120
I believe in the kingdom of God.

154
00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,940
God has got a precise price tag on

155
00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:09,140
every item.

156
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,340
You want it.

157
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,040
It costs that much.

158
00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,500
God never has a sale.

159
00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,620
But the good side to the situation is

160
00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:18,480
there's no inflation.

161
00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,020
The price is just the same as it

162
00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:23,480
was 19 centuries ago.

163
00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,420
It hasn't changed.

164
00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,800
Now what does it mean to lose your

165
00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,120
life?

166
00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,280
I want to try to explain this in

167
00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:31,840
a very practical way.

168
00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:33,160
Not an emotional way.

169
00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,100
Not to tell you a sad story about

170
00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:38,200
a missionary laying down his life in darkest

171
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,660
Africa.

172
00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,980
But to relate it in a very practical

173
00:05:41,980 --> 00:05:42,300
way.

174
00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,680
There are three words in Greek that are

175
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,320
translated life in the New Testament in English.

176
00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:50,800
And it's really important to distinguish them.

177
00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:52,680
If you want to do it you can

178
00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,360
always do it through a concordance.

179
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,280
Either young's or strong's.

180
00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,620
Because they separate the words according to the

181
00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:00,040
original word that's translated.

182
00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640
So it's not a secret that's confined to

183
00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,360
a few people.

184
00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:06,400
Anyone that's got enough money to buy a

185
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,040
concordance or friend to lend it.

186
00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:10,160
And willing to work at it can find

187
00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,600
these things.

188
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,100
The three words are zoe which in Greek

189
00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:17,880
means basically divine life.

190
00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:20,300
That's a little oversimplified.

191
00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,380
But in John 1 for it says in

192
00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:24,840
him Jesus Christ was life.

193
00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,140
And in 1 John 5 12 it says

194
00:06:27,140 --> 00:06:28,320
he that hath the son.

195
00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:29,500
S O N.

196
00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,800
Hath the life.

197
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,400
Zoe.

198
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000
That's essentially a life which we cannot have

199
00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,080
apart from God.

200
00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,200
Its source is God.

201
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,080
The second word is bios which gives us

202
00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,240
the English word biology.

203
00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,080
And that means basically Jesus talks about the

204
00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,220
cares of this life.

205
00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,760
And the deceitfulness of riches.

206
00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,560
The word is bios.

207
00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,620
It means the kind of life that every

208
00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:52,520
person has.

209
00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,980
Getting a job.

210
00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:55,220
Getting married.

211
00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,000
Finding enough food.

212
00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,820
That whole realm of physical material life.

213
00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:02,520
But the third word.

214
00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,140
The one that's used here.

215
00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:05,740
The Greek word psuche.

216
00:07:06,220 --> 00:07:08,680
Which gives us sort of English words like

217
00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,820
psychology, psychic.

218
00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:13,560
Though they're not exactly in line with the

219
00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,060
meaning of the Greek.

220
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,400
Now the Greek word psuche means soul.

221
00:07:17,580 --> 00:07:18,940
S O U L.

222
00:07:19,340 --> 00:07:20,860
And that's what Jesus said.

223
00:07:20,860 --> 00:07:23,280
He said if any man will.

224
00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:24,980
Let's look at the words and get them

225
00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:25,200
right.

226
00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:28,800
For whosoever will save his soul shall lose

227
00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,000
it.

228
00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,360
And whosoever will lose his soul for my

229
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,820
sake shall find it.

230
00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,880
What does it mean to save or to

231
00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,840
lose your soul?

232
00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,920
I want to try to illustrate that to

233
00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,580
you in a practical way.

234
00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,940
When I came into the ministry of deliverance.

235
00:07:44,820 --> 00:07:46,960
I got like most people.

236
00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,380
I got caught up with the dramatic spirits

237
00:07:49,380 --> 00:07:50,100
of suicide.

238
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,080
And witchcraft.

239
00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,800
And anger.

240
00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,620
And addictions.

241
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,540
It was all very dramatic.

242
00:07:58,140 --> 00:07:59,600
And resentment and so on.

243
00:08:00,260 --> 00:08:02,560
But after a while I began to realize.

244
00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,340
That I was only dealing with small branches

245
00:08:05,340 --> 00:08:07,400
of man's total problems.

246
00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:09,560
For instance just to give you an example.

247
00:08:09,740 --> 00:08:11,340
I discovered that if a person has an

248
00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:11,740
addiction.

249
00:08:12,420 --> 00:08:15,560
It almost always arises out of a frustration.

250
00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,220
So you don't solve the person's problem.

251
00:08:18,380 --> 00:08:19,660
If you just deal with the addiction.

252
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,180
But don't deal with the frustration.

253
00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,740
And as I went on.

254
00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:25,060
I began to see always going further and

255
00:08:25,060 --> 00:08:25,700
further down.

256
00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,820
From the twigs to the branches to the

257
00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:28,100
limbs.

258
00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:29,220
And then to the trunk.

259
00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:31,700
But then I read in Matthew 3 10.

260
00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,020
Where John the Baptist says.

261
00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:34,840
Now also the axe is laid to the

262
00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,500
root of the tree.

263
00:08:35,980 --> 00:08:37,580
And I saw that in actual fact.

264
00:08:37,659 --> 00:08:39,159
If you really want to get rid of

265
00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:39,520
the tree.

266
00:08:39,940 --> 00:08:41,440
You don't just cut off the branches.

267
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,140
You don't even just cut down the trunk.

268
00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:44,700
You've got to get to the root.

269
00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:46,520
And the root is below the surface.

270
00:08:47,020 --> 00:08:48,860
Now that I believe is true of human

271
00:08:48,860 --> 00:08:49,240
nature.

272
00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,140
And I would say that the root of

273
00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:52,960
man's problem.

274
00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,540
Is his self light.

275
00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,640
The ego.

276
00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,420
The eye.

277
00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:00,020
And in my mind.

278
00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:01,660
I well I once drew a little diagram

279
00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:03,000
of that tree.

280
00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,580
The line where the earth comes.

281
00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:07,120
And then what's below the surface.

282
00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,640
That you don't see.

283
00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:12,020
And most people resent you going below the

284
00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:12,340
surface.

285
00:09:12,460 --> 00:09:12,840
You know that.

286
00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280
And I in my mind's eye.

287
00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,600
I drew three roots.

288
00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,600
One big central root.

289
00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,440
And one on either side.

290
00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:23,500
And I would say those are the roots

291
00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:25,400
of the soul life.

292
00:09:25,780 --> 00:09:26,900
That we have to lose.

293
00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:28,840
And each of them begins with an eye.

294
00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:30,820
The big central one is.

295
00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,620
I want.

296
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,600
My will.

297
00:09:33,580 --> 00:09:35,100
The one on the other side is.

298
00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:35,820
I feel.

299
00:09:36,340 --> 00:09:37,000
My emotion.

300
00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:38,840
And then the other side.

301
00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:39,820
I think.

302
00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:41,000
My mind.

303
00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:42,180
I want.

304
00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:43,200
I feel.

305
00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,200
I think.

306
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,740
You study unregenerate man.

307
00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,300
He's ruled by those three eye.

308
00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,580
I want.

309
00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,060
I think.

310
00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:53,120
I feel.

311
00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:54,520
That's the soul.

312
00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,920
In its rebellion against almighty God.

313
00:09:56,980 --> 00:09:59,560
The soul is the rebellious area of man.

314
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,680
Jesus says if you want the life that

315
00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,380
God has.

316
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,660
You've got to lose that.

317
00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:06,260
You've got to let it go.

318
00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:08,760
You are no longer to be governed by.

319
00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:09,900
I want.

320
00:10:10,180 --> 00:10:10,980
I think.

321
00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,080
I feel.

322
00:10:12,180 --> 00:10:13,700
There's got to be a death.

323
00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,900
And if you're willing to let them die.

324
00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,420
They'll come a new life.

325
00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,980
But if you hold on to them.

326
00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:21,760
You never find the life that God has

327
00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,020
for you.

328
00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:23,640
I don't mean that you go to hell

329
00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,580
or heaven.

330
00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,660
That's not what I'm talking about.

331
00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:28,660
I'm talking about finding the life that God

332
00:10:28,660 --> 00:10:29,700
has for you.

333
00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:30,720
Here and now.

334
00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:32,800
If you want that life.

335
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,120
You've got to lose the other first.

336
00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,160
If you're not willing to lose it.

337
00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:38,520
You won't find it.

338
00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,840
And it's a death.

339
00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,620
Death is never pleasant.

340
00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:44,480
Let no one ever deceive you with pretty

341
00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,400
words about death.

342
00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:46,940
Death is the last enemy.

343
00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,400
Thank God that Jesus has conquered death.

344
00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:51,300
No one welcomes death.

345
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,040
No one ever will welcome death.

346
00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:55,700
Let's go to the next passage I read.

347
00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:57,660
2nd Corinthians chapter 4.

348
00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,220
See again the contrast.

349
00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:01,920
Always bearing about.

350
00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:02,860
Verse 10.

351
00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,680
2nd Corinthians 4.10. Always bearing about in

352
00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:06,120
the body.

353
00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,020
The dying of the Lord Jesus.

354
00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:10,080
That the life also of Jesus.

355
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,800
Might be made manifest in our body.

356
00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:14,760
If you don't carry the death.

357
00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:17,180
You can't manifest the life.

358
00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,160
Verse 11.

359
00:11:18,260 --> 00:11:21,260
For we who live are continually being delivered

360
00:11:21,260 --> 00:11:21,880
unto death.

361
00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,260
For Jesus sake.

362
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,440
That the life also of Jesus might be

363
00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,920
made manifest in our mortal flesh.

364
00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,900
That's divine healing and divine health.

365
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,580
But you see.

366
00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,320
There's a basic requirement.

367
00:11:32,980 --> 00:11:34,800
Your own will.

368
00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:36,140
Your ego.

369
00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:37,740
Your ideas.

370
00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:38,840
Your desires.

371
00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,860
Your ambitions.

372
00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,960
Shut off the life of God.

373
00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:44,100
As long as you cling on to them.

374
00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,380
His life cannot flow through you.

375
00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,320
So then you come to this statement.

376
00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,680
Verse 12.

377
00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,740
So then death worketh in us.

378
00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:53,040
But life in you.

379
00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:54,600
Do you want to minister life?

380
00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,840
There's a price.

381
00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,960
Death in you.

382
00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:57,740
See.

383
00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,580
That natural soul life.

384
00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,360
Is at war with God.

385
00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,300
It's opposed to God.

386
00:12:05,780 --> 00:12:06,520
It's an enemy.

387
00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,080
It's contrary to the spirit of God.

388
00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,720
It doesn't receive the life of God.

389
00:12:12,020 --> 00:12:13,860
You want to be a life transmitter?

390
00:12:14,540 --> 00:12:15,000
All right.

391
00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,560
Accept the sentence of death.

392
00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:17,860
When you die.

393
00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,820
God's life flows through you.

394
00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:23,140
I've learned this in innumerable different ways.

395
00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:24,940
I remember I was going to preach in

396
00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:25,380
Denmark.

397
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,680
Through an interpreter.

398
00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:28,160
In 1947.

399
00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:29,640
That's good many years ago.

400
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,740
In fact 30 years ago.

401
00:12:31,220 --> 00:12:33,240
And it was really important to me.

402
00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:33,960
I did well.

403
00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:35,660
I mean I really wanted to do well.

404
00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:36,820
When I got there.

405
00:12:36,820 --> 00:12:39,700
I discovered my interpreter didn't understand what I

406
00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:40,320
was talking about.

407
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,200
And I thought what am I going to

408
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,440
do?

409
00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:44,500
And I said Lord into your hands.

410
00:12:44,620 --> 00:12:45,660
I commend my spirit.

411
00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,000
I just can't do anything about it.

412
00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:49,800
God blessed that meeting in a remarkable way.

413
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,780
Because I died.

414
00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:53,440
When I got myself out of the way.

415
00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:54,880
God could do something.

416
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,900
I remember being in the same church two

417
00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:57,680
or three years later.

418
00:12:58,260 --> 00:13:00,060
And they had in that Pentecostal church in

419
00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:00,540
Copenhagen.

420
00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,180
Where Eric knows the church.

421
00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:04,780
They had a members meeting.

422
00:13:05,260 --> 00:13:05,840
Every week.

423
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,520
Well they invited me to speak.

424
00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:09,480
I thought it was a gospel service.

425
00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:11,440
So I came along with a gospel message.

426
00:13:11,820 --> 00:13:14,280
And I got they comparing themselves by themselves.

427
00:13:14,380 --> 00:13:16,880
And measuring themselves by amongst themselves are not

428
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,180
wise.

429
00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,520
I was going to talk to sinners.

430
00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:20,160
Well when I got there.

431
00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:24,340
Again I was not sufficiently able in those

432
00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:25,120
days to preach.

433
00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,520
That I could change my message.

434
00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,800
And preach through an interpreter.

435
00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,260
So I had to preach my message for

436
00:13:30,260 --> 00:13:31,220
sinners to saints.

437
00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:32,860
And God sent a revival.

438
00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:36,440
It turned out the saints were sinners.

439
00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:40,240
Why?

440
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,880
Because I'd given up.

441
00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,140
I mean I had just come to the

442
00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:44,780
point where I said.

443
00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:47,080
I cannot do anything in this situation.

444
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,000
Those are very simple examples.

445
00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:52,260
I discovered that when God uses me to

446
00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:52,960
bless others.

447
00:13:53,420 --> 00:13:55,360
I always have to do it at my

448
00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,360
own inconvenience.

449
00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,100
It always demands self-denial.

450
00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,380
Somewhere or other.

451
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,100
I have to give up something to bless

452
00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:04,400
others.

453
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,560
All right I've just settled down to listen

454
00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,060
to my favorite record.

455
00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:11,120
Which is anybody may know it.

456
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,560
Christopher Parkin and Klezbach.

457
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,280
And the phone rings.

458
00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:17,300
All right it's a black lady I met

459
00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:17,940
in a convention.

460
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,520
I won't give her name or location.

461
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,100
Because who knows where tapes will end.

462
00:14:21,380 --> 00:14:24,380
And she wants to counsel with Brother Prince.

463
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,460
And I give her 15 minutes.

464
00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:27,900
When I could have been listening to Christopher

465
00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:28,360
Parkin.

466
00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,260
Don't you think that costs something?

467
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,720
Believe me it cost me something.

468
00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:35,260
But I know if I do it.

469
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,180
God will bless.

470
00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,080
Because I've got my ego out of the

471
00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,320
way.

472
00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,920
My soul life.

473
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,100
The I want.

474
00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,640
I think.

475
00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:43,340
I feel Lord this is the time I

476
00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:44,300
set aside for myself.

477
00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,940
You know I always like 30 minutes alone

478
00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:47,840
before I go to bed.

479
00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,480
The Lord knows too well.

480
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,500
Actually this has happened twice.

481
00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:53,840
I have to be careful what I say.

482
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,660
Because this lady may one day hear this

483
00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:55,900
tape.

484
00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:58,120
I've got to this stage.

485
00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,040
And people that know me know.

486
00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:00,260
I unplugged my phone.

487
00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:02,360
Then in Florida they've given us those nice

488
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,640
phones.

489
00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:04,140
Where you just pull the thing out anytime

490
00:15:04,140 --> 00:15:04,620
you want.

491
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,680
You know terrific progress.

492
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,720
And I got three phones with my number.

493
00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:09,940
And when I want to be by myself.

494
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,680
I go around and unplug every phone.

495
00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:13,720
And when I'm writing a book.

496
00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,580
And I've been writing a book.

497
00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:15,540
I unplugged the phone.

498
00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,300
But then if I want to phone somebody.

499
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,280
Like my daughter or something.

500
00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,320
I just plug the phone.

501
00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,120
Make the call.

502
00:15:20,260 --> 00:15:21,060
And then unplug it.

503
00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,700
Well twice I forgot to unplug it.

504
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,760
And guess what happened?

505
00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,780
Each time this black lady phoned.

506
00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:28,580
From right halfway across the nation.

507
00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:31,480
And I had to see God wanted me

508
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,180
to talk to her.

509
00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:34,040
That's why he let me forget to unplug

510
00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:34,380
the phone.

511
00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:36,940
Well that doesn't sound very grand and dramatic.

512
00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:42,220
That's a daily life of dying to minister

513
00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:42,580
life.

514
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,740
We are continually being delivered unto death.

515
00:15:47,060 --> 00:15:47,980
For Jesus sake.

516
00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:50,040
That the life also of Christ.

517
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,100
Might be manifested in our mortal body.

518
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,000
I do think it goes a lot further

519
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,500
than that.

520
00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,580
I mean to say it's more than just

521
00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:57,120
being willing.

522
00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,100
To talk to a lady on the phone.

523
00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,080
Because it depends what your priorities are.

524
00:16:01,220 --> 00:16:01,720
To me.

525
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,300
Talking on the phone.

526
00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:04,620
Is a chore.

527
00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:06,460
I hate it at the best times.

528
00:16:06,940 --> 00:16:07,380
That's.

529
00:16:07,540 --> 00:16:08,120
I mean that's.

530
00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:09,120
I'm just like that.

531
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:09,960
I mean I.

532
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,920
If I make you a phone call.

533
00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:12,880
You may not know it.

534
00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,480
But it's a.

535
00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:15,260
It's a tribute as far as I'm concerned.

536
00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:21,690
I mean I've really paid the price.

537
00:16:22,190 --> 00:16:22,590
I just.

538
00:16:22,670 --> 00:16:23,770
I'd rather the phone.

539
00:16:24,110 --> 00:16:24,850
You know in a certain sense.

540
00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:25,810
I'd rather they didn't exist.

541
00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:26,670
But anyhow.

542
00:16:27,130 --> 00:16:29,090
Let's go on to the last passage in

543
00:16:29,090 --> 00:16:29,550
Philippians.

544
00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:30,870
Chapter 3.

545
00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:33,190
Verse 10.

546
00:16:33,810 --> 00:16:34,830
That I may know him.

547
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:36,690
The power of his resurrection.

548
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:38,610
The fellowship of his suffering.

549
00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:41,010
Being made conformable unto his death.

550
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:42,630
If by any means.

551
00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:43,470
Through that.

552
00:16:43,790 --> 00:16:45,370
I might attain unto the resurrection.

553
00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:46,150
The dead.

554
00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:48,270
Do you think that Paul didn't know Jesus.

555
00:16:48,350 --> 00:16:49,250
When he wrote those words.

556
00:16:49,770 --> 00:16:51,170
I mean it's obvious that he did.

557
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:53,570
He'd known him better than most of us.

558
00:16:53,650 --> 00:16:54,350
For many years.

559
00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:56,290
And he said that I may know him.

560
00:16:56,670 --> 00:16:57,030
Better.

561
00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:58,390
More intimately.

562
00:16:58,930 --> 00:16:59,710
More completely.

563
00:17:00,190 --> 00:17:01,290
And he said that I may know him

564
00:17:01,290 --> 00:17:02,230
in two aspects.

565
00:17:02,390 --> 00:17:03,630
The power of his resurrection.

566
00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:06,770
The fellowship or sharing together in his suffering.

567
00:17:07,230 --> 00:17:08,270
There are some people.

568
00:17:08,430 --> 00:17:10,349
That all they can talk about is crucifixion.

569
00:17:10,750 --> 00:17:11,810
The crucified life.

570
00:17:12,369 --> 00:17:15,050
And many times I found them rather miserable.

571
00:17:15,609 --> 00:17:18,230
I don't believe God asks us.

572
00:17:18,550 --> 00:17:20,050
To share the crucified life.

573
00:17:20,450 --> 00:17:22,569
Until we've tasted the power of his resurrection.

574
00:17:22,930 --> 00:17:25,089
You notice the power of his resurrection comes

575
00:17:25,089 --> 00:17:25,630
first.

576
00:17:26,109 --> 00:17:27,329
Then the fellowship of his sufferings.

577
00:17:27,349 --> 00:17:28,470
If you don't have the power of his

578
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:28,930
resurrection.

579
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:30,850
What will you do with the fellowship of

580
00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:31,530
his sufferings.

581
00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:32,830
You won't be able to handle it.

582
00:17:33,310 --> 00:17:33,650
I think.

583
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:34,050
I have.

584
00:17:34,090 --> 00:17:34,950
This is going to be difficult for me

585
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:35,210
to say.

586
00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:36,670
And I wouldn't say it in most places.

587
00:17:37,170 --> 00:17:38,510
Maybe I shouldn't even say it here.

588
00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:40,670
I think I really came to understand this.

589
00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:41,510
When the wife took.

590
00:17:41,630 --> 00:17:42,870
When the Lord took my wife home.

591
00:17:43,610 --> 00:17:45,030
The fellowship of his suffering.

592
00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:47,230
Because one of the greatest privileges of my

593
00:17:47,230 --> 00:17:47,610
life.

594
00:17:47,950 --> 00:17:48,930
Was to be with her.

595
00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:50,270
Till the Lord took her.

596
00:17:50,590 --> 00:17:51,810
And to share her sufferings.

597
00:17:51,810 --> 00:17:53,810
There wasn't anywhere else in the world.

598
00:17:53,950 --> 00:17:54,950
That I would have been at that time.

599
00:17:55,050 --> 00:17:55,930
And if I'd not.

600
00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:58,090
I'd let the Holy Spirit nudge me.

601
00:17:58,170 --> 00:17:59,090
And told me not to go on a

602
00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:59,650
preaching trip.

603
00:17:59,930 --> 00:18:00,890
And that's why I was there.

604
00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:02,990
But I then learned this.

605
00:18:03,090 --> 00:18:04,790
That if you really love a person.

606
00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:07,390
You wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

607
00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:07,990
When they're suffering.

608
00:18:08,490 --> 00:18:09,830
And I see that's how it is with

609
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:10,170
the Lord.

610
00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:11,910
If we really love him.

611
00:18:12,290 --> 00:18:13,470
We want to share his suffering.

612
00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:14,850
We don't want to leave him.

613
00:18:14,890 --> 00:18:16,010
When the going gets tough.

614
00:18:16,450 --> 00:18:18,150
And again I've seen this.

615
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:22,010
That the most powerful thing in the universe.

616
00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:22,950
Is love.

617
00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:24,470
In the Old Testament it says.

618
00:18:24,570 --> 00:18:25,770
Love is strong as death.

619
00:18:26,170 --> 00:18:27,410
And you know death is strong.

620
00:18:27,890 --> 00:18:29,110
Death is irresistible.

621
00:18:29,530 --> 00:18:30,470
When death comes.

622
00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:32,450
There's no man can say no.

623
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:33,510
The Bible says.

624
00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:34,670
Love is strong as death.

625
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:36,330
Love is irresistible.

626
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:37,430
When it comes.

627
00:18:37,810 --> 00:18:38,930
No one can say no.

628
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:41,190
But it's like with electricity.

629
00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,230
The higher the voltage.

630
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:46,470
The more you have to ensure.

631
00:18:46,530 --> 00:18:47,890
That it's properly insulated.

632
00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:49,870
Otherwise it's very dangerous.

633
00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:51,730
And I don't know whether you can take

634
00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:52,070
this.

635
00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:52,850
But if you can't.

636
00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,290
About 10 years from now.

637
00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:55,050
You think it over.

638
00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:56,770
But you may need experience.

639
00:18:57,730 --> 00:19:00,430
But the more God gives you his love.

640
00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:03,050
The more carefully it has to be insulated.

641
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:05,290
Because if you play around with the love

642
00:19:05,290 --> 00:19:05,730
of God.

643
00:19:06,210 --> 00:19:07,490
You can control people.

644
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:09,230
You can be like a pied piper.

645
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:10,970
You can have people running after you.

646
00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:12,230
It sounds strange.

647
00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:12,930
But it's true.

648
00:19:13,550 --> 00:19:14,290
And you've got to be.

649
00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:16,450
Never have you got to be so careful.

650
00:19:16,450 --> 00:19:17,910
As when you know.

651
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:19,930
The love of God is flowing through you.

652
00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:21,610
Because you can manipulate people.

653
00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:23,110
The average person.

654
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:25,230
Never felt the love of God in his

655
00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:25,510
life.

656
00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:28,170
You come there to channel of God's love.

657
00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:29,830
And you're not insulated.

658
00:19:30,350 --> 00:19:31,230
Then going to be a problem.

659
00:19:31,790 --> 00:19:33,890
The insulation is death.

660
00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:35,630
Death worketh enough.

661
00:19:36,030 --> 00:19:36,870
But life in you.

662
00:19:37,330 --> 00:19:38,650
You want others to have life.

663
00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:39,910
There'll be a moment.

664
00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:41,430
Where you have to experience death.

665
00:19:41,810 --> 00:19:42,990
Don't go looking for it.

666
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:44,530
Because God will arrange it.

667
00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:46,610
When it comes.

668
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:48,070
Just bear that in mind.

669
00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:48,850
That's the price.

670
00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,330
And it just doesn't happen once or twice.

671
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:54,310
There may be real critical moments in our

672
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:54,630
lives.

673
00:19:55,130 --> 00:19:55,810
Where we can say.

674
00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:57,170
Well that moment I died.

675
00:19:57,290 --> 00:19:59,850
Maybe you accepted to calling us a missionary.

676
00:20:00,390 --> 00:20:01,870
I can look back now and think.

677
00:20:01,930 --> 00:20:03,070
When the Lord called me to be a

678
00:20:03,070 --> 00:20:03,310
missionary.

679
00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:04,830
In Jerusalem.

680
00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:07,130
I had been overseas in the British army.

681
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:08,250
For four and a half years.

682
00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:10,390
My grandfather whom I dearly love.

683
00:20:10,430 --> 00:20:11,430
Was dying of cancer.

684
00:20:12,050 --> 00:20:12,350
He's.

685
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:14,330
The Lord had kept him alive.

686
00:20:14,530 --> 00:20:15,890
Three years through my prayer.

687
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:18,270
The British army owed me a trip.

688
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:19,470
Back to England.

689
00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:22,330
Because that's where I was enlisted.

690
00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:24,390
But the Lord had called me.

691
00:20:24,530 --> 00:20:26,030
To serve him as a missionary.

692
00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:27,150
In Jerusalem.

693
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:28,530
And I said to myself.

694
00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:29,630
Well I'll just go home.

695
00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:31,010
See my grandfather.

696
00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:32,210
My father and mother.

697
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:32,970
And my family.

698
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:33,990
Come back again.

699
00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:35,650
Start my missionary calling.

700
00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:37,150
And the Lord gave me.

701
00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:39,930
A most beautiful utterance.

702
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:41,030
Interpreted.

703
00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:42,830
And was a picture of a ship.

704
00:20:42,910 --> 00:20:43,470
In a harbour.

705
00:20:43,550 --> 00:20:44,230
A sailing ship.

706
00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:45,650
Fully manned.

707
00:20:45,890 --> 00:20:47,230
All the sails in place.

708
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:48,330
Everything ready.

709
00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:49,890
Just about to set sail.

710
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:50,970
And he said.

711
00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:52,890
The ship is in the dock.

712
00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:54,450
You can get on now and go.

713
00:20:54,970 --> 00:20:56,090
If you don't get on now.

714
00:20:56,550 --> 00:20:57,730
The ship will go without you.

715
00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:59,330
And I learned one thing.

716
00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:01,590
God's calling doesn't suit man's convenience.

717
00:21:02,150 --> 00:21:03,930
And I said no to my parents.

718
00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:05,230
No to my grandfather.

719
00:21:05,370 --> 00:21:06,630
No to my university career.

720
00:21:07,150 --> 00:21:08,190
And I stepped on the ship.

721
00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:09,450
That was a death.

722
00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:13,010
But I have never never never regretted it.

723
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:15,130
Every time God is going to open.

724
00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:18,450
Some new level or experience of life to

725
00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:18,750
you.

726
00:21:19,150 --> 00:21:20,910
The price is death.

727
00:21:21,310 --> 00:21:23,050
It comes in many many different ways.

728
00:21:23,170 --> 00:21:25,370
God suits it to your particular situation.

729
00:21:25,950 --> 00:21:27,530
You may have to give up a boyfriend.

730
00:21:28,050 --> 00:21:28,850
Or a girlfriend.

731
00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:30,830
Might be a very nice person.

732
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:33,490
But not the one that God can bless

733
00:21:33,490 --> 00:21:34,170
your life with.

734
00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:36,170
God has got his ways of doing things.

735
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:39,070
There was that lady that was called to

736
00:21:39,070 --> 00:21:39,770
West Africa.

737
00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:40,650
What was her name?

738
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:42,870
She was known as the White Queen of

739
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:43,350
Calabar.

740
00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:44,210
Mary Slessor.

741
00:21:44,590 --> 00:21:45,710
When the Lord called her.

742
00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:47,510
She was very interested in a man.

743
00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:49,510
And he was very interested in her.

744
00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:51,630
And so he sent her a letter.

745
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:52,970
And said if you write back.

746
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:54,250
We'll get married.

747
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:56,990
She mailed the letter.

748
00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,690
And it got lost in the post.

749
00:21:59,010 --> 00:22:00,870
It didn't arrive till 10 years later.

750
00:22:01,410 --> 00:22:02,870
So she left for Calabar.

751
00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:04,030
And they never got married.

752
00:22:04,030 --> 00:22:06,590
That was God's way of cutting that root.

753
00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:11,090
So who knows what will happen.

754
00:22:11,690 --> 00:22:12,810
But I tell you.

755
00:22:13,030 --> 00:22:16,070
God has always got something much better.

756
00:22:16,550 --> 00:22:17,690
Than you could ever dream of.

757
00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:20,270
God demonstrated that to me with our house.

758
00:22:20,350 --> 00:22:20,850
And I'm not.

759
00:22:21,170 --> 00:22:23,170
I am not proud of our house.

760
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:24,790
I'm not coveted.

761
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:26,670
I've walked out of two houses.

762
00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:28,490
Left them fully furnished.

763
00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:29,670
And never gone back to them.

764
00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:30,930
So you know.

765
00:22:31,410 --> 00:22:32,630
I've been tested that way.

766
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:34,150
But God showed me.

767
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:35,370
And he's shown me again.

768
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:35,810
And again.

769
00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:36,230
And again.

770
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:37,590
In every area of my life.

771
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:39,470
If I will let him plan.

772
00:22:39,950 --> 00:22:41,990
He'll plan better than I would ever do

773
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:42,490
it for myself.

774
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:43,430
I mean that.

775
00:22:43,470 --> 00:22:44,730
Better every way.

776
00:22:44,850 --> 00:22:45,830
On a higher level.

777
00:22:46,330 --> 00:22:48,910
But always the price is.

778
00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,690
Death to my own ideas.

779
00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:52,570
Death to my own will.

780
00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:54,970
Death to my own feelings.

781
00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:57,030
If you want to find your life.

782
00:22:57,370 --> 00:22:58,290
What do you have to do?

783
00:22:58,730 --> 00:22:59,190
Lose it.

784
00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:00,510
If you hold on to it.

785
00:23:00,890 --> 00:23:01,910
Then you do lose it.

786
00:23:01,910 --> 00:23:03,010
You've heard about.

787
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:04,810
I think one of those missionaries that was

788
00:23:04,810 --> 00:23:05,150
killed.

789
00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:08,210
In South America some years back.

790
00:23:08,650 --> 00:23:09,830
I forget which one it was.

791
00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:10,970
But he wrote this in a book.

792
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:11,530
And I really.

793
00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:12,570
I'll leave it with you.

794
00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:12,890
I think.

795
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:14,530
I can't say it any better.

796
00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:15,650
He said.

797
00:23:15,730 --> 00:23:16,790
He is no fool.

798
00:23:17,250 --> 00:23:19,690
Who gives up that which he cannot keep.

799
00:23:19,950 --> 00:23:21,730
To gain that which he cannot lose.

800
00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:23,430
So when the choice comes.

801
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:25,070
Remember you're not a fool.

802
00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:26,750
To give up what you can't keep.

803
00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:28,350
To get what you can't lose.

804
00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:29,410
God bless you.
