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I think one of the beautiful things in

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the work the Lord has called us into

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is our emphasis on open sharing.

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And every leader should have at least some

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other leader that he can openly share with.

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Now that doesn't mean there are no pitfalls

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when you openly share.

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And we found that in everything we attempt

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in our Christian life the enemy has his

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booby traps.

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He has his minefields.

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I shared part of this message when I

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had the privilege of speaking just about a

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year ago at the Canadian Revival Convention.

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In fact, it is almost a year ago

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to the day.

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There is a movement in Canada that doesn't

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invite in too many outside speakers.

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They experienced revival in the churches in Canada

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about ten or eleven years ago and what

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was once a river has become many streams.

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The main revival, in a sense, has not

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continued in its intensity.

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Whole churches being turned upside down people coming

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into newness of life.

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But now there are many streams.

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The two men that the Holy Spirit has

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especially used in this revival are the Setera

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twins.

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They are twins.

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Very unique men.

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Italian background.

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And they go in a church, not for

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a couple of nights.

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They go in for weeks at a time.

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It takes them one week just to get

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the people ready.

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Just to get them off their TV addiction.

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Because most people go home at night and

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watch TV.

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Their meetings go on two and three hours.

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You can imagine attempting that kind of thing

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in Canadian and American culture.

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It is quite an amazing movement.

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There is a man, Mr. McLeod.

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Some of you may have read some of

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his writings.

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He is praying about spending some time on

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He travels more overseas whereas the Setera twins

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feel really burdened for Canada.

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So I worked a lot and prayed a

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lot and brought forth a message which I

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called Maintaining Balance in the Midst of a

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Revival.

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If you study the history of revival you

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will discover that very quickly revivals go into

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extremism.

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It has been our burden from the earliest

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days of OM that we would experience revival.

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It at times becomes a neglected emphasis.

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Rather than thinking in terms of the quality

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of spiritual life and living in revival and

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communion with the Lord and the power of

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the Holy Spirit we become merely a form

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of Christian work.

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People join the Lord's work so they join

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Operation Mobilization.

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As I shared yesterday my burden in sharing

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these things with you is that you can

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go back and share them with your own

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team.

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It is God's purpose for our teams to

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be functioning in revival.

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And I want to talk about what that

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means.

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And I believe by functioning in revival we

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discover the best way to maintain our own

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spiritual life.

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Let's look at a very basic scripture that

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we've all ministered on.

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Ephesians chapter 5.

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Ephesians 5 verse 19 Speaking to yourselves

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in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs singing

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and making melody in your hearts to the

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Lord.

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It's a text I often preach on and

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I hope it's a text that you share

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as well.

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Compare that with Colossians 3.16 If you

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can keep both places in your Bible it

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will be helpful.

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Let the word of Christ dwell in you

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richly in all wisdom teaching and admonishing one

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another.

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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Teaching and admonishing one another.

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It's one of the things that we want

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to do here to be able to admonish,

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to be able to teach one another.

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Psalms, hymns, spiritual songs singing with grace in

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your hearts to the Lord.

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And whatsoever you do in word or deed

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do all in the name of the Lord

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Jesus giving thanks to God and the Father

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by Him.

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And then it goes into those very, very

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basic instructions for the family about wives submitting

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themselves to their husbands.

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Most of you men don't probably lack that

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emphasis but what about verse 19?

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How are you handling that one?

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Husbands, love your wives and be not bitter

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against them.

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Maintaining spiritual life in O.M. means maintaining

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family life.

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If you cannot separate one from the other.

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And there's a passage where all of this

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the reality of the fullness of God in

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a man's life.

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This is revival.

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This is revival.

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Don't think of revival as some special thing

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that comes every once in a decade which

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everybody starts jumping up and down in the

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church and all feel that the Lord has

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touched them.

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There are more backslidden people that once felt

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the Lord touched them than you'll ever be

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able to count.

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But revival is Christ living in us, controlling

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us, working through us.

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There may be the times of special blessing.

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Amen.

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There may be the times when you feel

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like jumping up in the air.

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Be careful on the doulos.

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Very low roof.

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But revival is a seven day a week

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reality not an alternate leap year spiritual jamboree.

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And there's no purpose in having a great

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revival at the next AIC if the river

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is not going to be carried out into

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the teen life.

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Seven days a week.

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I think there's a lot of confusion about

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revival.

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I think there's tremendous confusion about the fullness

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of the Holy Spirit.

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to urge people to walk in this reality

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we have to be able to point out

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from the scriptures the dangers.

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I think most of you know enough of

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the word of God to know that most

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of the epistles were written to correct the

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church.

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You get people dissatisfied with OM and the

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OM team and sometimes we don't blame them.

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this is not the local church.

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that's really where the blessing is.

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But if you have fellowship with as many

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local churches as some of us you will

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know that many local churches are experiencing the

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same problems we experience on our teams.

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Sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse.

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Maintaining spiritual life, revival.

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As it says in Galatians walking in the

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Spirit so you don't fulfill the lust of

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the flesh is difficult in any circumstance.

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Now it's interesting that in Ephesians I'm going

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to need that glass of water, Rudy.

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In Ephesians it says be filled with the

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Spirit and then it follows it.

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Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and

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spiritual songs singing and making melody in your

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hearts to the Lord.

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Very similar to Colossians 3.

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Some of you have heard me speak about

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this before so I won't tarry here.

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I hope you're showing your team members this.

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At this conference I'm not interested in whether

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you've heard this before.

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I'm not interested in even whether you're hearing

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it now.

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I'm interested in knowing whether you're getting some

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of this basic material firstly through your own

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life down to your team members.

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It's the greatest challenge we have to get

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this down to the newest recruit on the

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team.

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Be not drunk with wine in which is

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excess but be filled with the Spirit.

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Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and

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spiritual songs singing and making melody in your

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hearts to the Lord.

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And then what we emphasized yesterday.

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Giving thanks always for all things unto God

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and the Father in the name of our

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Lord Jesus Christ.

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Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear

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of God.

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You know many of you are preachers and

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you go out and you take meetings and

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you teach and you preach.

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teaching and your preaching that you are also

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receiving.

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I'd love to know from some of you

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when you write who's feeding you?

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Who's challenging you?

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Maybe I'm someone who listens to too many

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tapes and I've been accused of being a

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tapeworm as you have bookworms.

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I'd rather not mention that here in Nepal.

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But I have received so much spiritual help

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from these tapes.

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Of course they're not a total answer.

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Just before leaving I've been imbibing an Italian

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wildcat preacher that I've never hardly heard of

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before named Tony Compello from the streets of

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Pennsylvania.

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I just can't tell you what a blessing

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that man was to me in my time

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of making transition from Mexico packing, changing my

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suitcase and whatever else and coming here.

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We have a tremendous tape library in Bombay.

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God has spared it in the fire.

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I wonder how many of us really make

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use of that.

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Different men have such different insight into some

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of these truths.

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another though there are some contradictions.

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people in different ways.

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So beautiful.

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And we have that portrayed here so beautifully

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because Ephesians talks about being filled with the

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Holy Spirit.

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The book of Colossians hardly mentions the Holy

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Spirit.

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Yet the results in Ephesians and Colossians are

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the same.

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Ephesians verse 20 Giving thanks always for all

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things unto God and the Father in the

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name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear

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of God.

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We have some extremist movements in the West

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that overemphasize submission and submission becomes manipulation.

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sort of heavy-handed leadership that sometimes gets

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into our teams where the team leader is

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doing just the opposite of what the Bible

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The Bible says, Lord it not over God's

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heritage.

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In other words, you don't rule God's heritage

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with an iron hand, with a big stick,

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with some kind of heavy pressure.

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them in love and you encourage them with

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your own life.

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I was saying to Ray Eicher this morning,

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it would be tremendous if every leader including

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every main coordinator would spend one week a

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year out on the teams.

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I'm sure some of you are.

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are visiting teams.

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It is no good just going in there

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one day and leaving the next.

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You'll never accomplish really what God would have

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you accomplish with a team through that type

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of team visiting.

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Now if Ray Eicher, the overall coordinator of

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the work, visits the team and goes in

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one day and leaves the next, maybe that

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could be accepted.

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But if your responsibility is the cultivation of

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spiritual life on those teams, you need to

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go out there at least once in a

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while and live with them.

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And go out on the streets with them

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and get to talk to those men heart

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to heart.

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And you will learn something.

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That's very, very important.

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See, verse 21 talks about submitting to one

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another.

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There is a sense where we as leaders

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are submitting ourselves even to the youngest new

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recruit.

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We can learn from him.

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We can receive exhortation from him.

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He should share in all humility what's on

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his heart.

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But we can often learn from the man

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out on the team.

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And we can learn from one another.

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And we can learn in our cross-fellowship

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that we have here during the tea break

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or during the free time.

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For me the hardest part of these conferences

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are always the intensive sessions where we discover

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at times we don't agree on certain things

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and we even at times get upset with

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each other on certain things.

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Sometimes it gets pretty intensive.

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That is always the hardest part of a

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conference like this.

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God is always wonderful.

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Whenever you're in a situation where certain things

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are hard, other things are a blessing.

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And often the greatest blessing is just to

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get with individuals and get to know them

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better and go for a walk and see

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where the cheapest tea shop is or whatever

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else in the process.

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I think most of you know and I

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believe by God's mercy I've proven this these

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twenty-some years of the work in India

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that in no way am I interested in

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lording over the work here or anywhere else.

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I've had to constantly change through what I've

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learned from other people.

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I had to acknowledge the gangrene of extremism

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in my own life.

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In some of those early tapes there are

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things that are extreme and need to be

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brought into balance by other things.

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I believe if some of you developed a

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message and were able to communicate on this

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thing of spiritual balance and maintaining spiritual life

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that you would become in such demand in

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the churches that you'd find it hard to

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know how to continue and live.

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Because I've found all over the world enormous

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response to this kind of message.

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So many of God's people have been crushed

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by extremism.

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They have been worked over by unbelievable uncontrollable

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local church situations.

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And by manipulative leaders who often are very

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insecure people.

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Leaders are often very insecure people trying to

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build their own little empire which helps them

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in turn remain more secure.

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And when criticism comes and disunity comes and

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problems come they crumble.

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Keep that in balance.

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I would love to share with you I

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don't think I'll have time a message that

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I've been working on on how to understand

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Christian leaders.

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This has been one of the messages I've

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been working on the most lately.

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By the way I find that every year

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the Lord gives me at least 10 or

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20 major totally new messages.

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We cannot just keep preaching the same thing.

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Now of course when we preach some of

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the old basics will creep in almost every

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message.

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There's nothing wrong with that.

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You ever heard Billy Graham?

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I've heard probably more than most of you

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I'm sure.

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And some of it is incredibly basic.

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And yet most of Billy Graham's messages some

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new little avenue of light comes in.

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I believe that Billy Graham's ministry of exhortation

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and teaching to the church will in eternity

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prove to be a greater significance than his

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evangelistic preaching.

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Because through that he's influenced so many Christian

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leaders who have gone out across the world

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and have become mighty harvesting instruments for Christ.

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This may sound strange to you but it's

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been one of my prayers that God would

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raise up within O.M. more anointed preachers.

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I'd rather have one anointed preacher in some

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of your states.

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In some ways, don't misunderstand that all your

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team's put together.

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There's no substitute for the anointing of God

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brothers and sisters.

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All the energy, all the activity all the

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commotion and all the book sales will never

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be a substitute for the anointing the Holy

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Ghost anointing of God upon a man who's

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walking with Jesus.

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One of the leaders here felt yesterday if

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he didn't have enough team members his base

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would not be justified.

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He must have been jolted but my rather

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quick reaction to that which may or may

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have not been in the spirit when I

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get to heaven I will no doubt get

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a fair number of spankings at the throne

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of grace but I said to him that

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base is justified if only you are there.

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Yes!

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They're the numbers of the people that justify

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whatever that word means O.M.'s bases.

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One anointed man one anointed man with a

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ministry demands secretarial help demands other practical help

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and if we have some anointed men in

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India then let's rally around them loving them,

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exhorting them working with them.

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We do have some anointed men some are

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right here in this room.

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We know they will be a primary target

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for the enemy.

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Often anointed men are subject to experiences and

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depths of struggle that others don't know so

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much about.

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Many of the anointed preachers I have read

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about are subject to depression.

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Spurgeon, the great perhaps the greatest preacher of

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all times was subject to depression.

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Some said some say it was because of

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the gout a disease that I never understood.

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Mary Machine was subject to depression and this

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is why it is important for an anointed

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man to also know how to maintain the

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spiritual life in the midst of the battle.

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And I believe some of the keys are

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found here in Ephesians and Colossians.

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Being filled with the Holy Spirit cannot be

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just a once and for all experience.

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I have a note in my Bible that

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says this is in continuous tense in the

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Greek.

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I don't know whether that's true or not

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because I don't know Greek but it's wonderful

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that those of us who don't know Greek

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can still study at the feet of Greek

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scholars.

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We can still read commentaries by men who

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do know Greek.

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Probably that's how I got that note in

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there.

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So continuous tense.

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We go on keeping on being filled with

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the Holy Spirit.

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It's a daily experience.

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I want to ask you is that your

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daily experience?

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I'm not interested in knowing whether you were

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baptized in the Holy Spirit terminology some people

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use or filled with the Holy Spirit terminology

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some other people use five years ago or

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ten years ago.

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I'd like to know whether today you're going

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on being filled with the Holy Spirit.

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Is this just spiritual jargon?

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Is this just terminology we use so that

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we have a spiritual message that sounds good?

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Or is it a practical reality?

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I think if I had to choose any

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one group of people to work with in

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the world today I would choose Indians.

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I would choose Indians.

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I've worked with many people.

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Mexicans would perhaps run a close second.

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Maybe the Spanish and the Italians would run

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third.

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Maybe the British would run fourth.

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In one sense it doesn't matter because life

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isn't that way.

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But generally speaking there is a spiritual appetite

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here in India.

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I don't know what it is.

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People are willing to talk about spiritual things.

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People respond in the churches.

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I've never had a church in India where

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I went and didn't see some response.

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Probably there's one that I've so bad I've

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repressed it.

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Forgotten about it.

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Of course, Indian brothers always brought me into

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balance.

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I went down to Carolina.

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Boy, the people seemed to be coming out

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of the trees for Jesus.

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These conventions were just people responding and then

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someone told me that this was a habit.

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It can be rather disappointing to the young

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preacher who finally feels that the anointing of

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God has settled upon his ministry to be

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told that these people are doing this out

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of a habit rather than because the Holy

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Spirit was convicting them.

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The awakening that any evangelist and any preacher

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has when he begins to discover the deceptive

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heart of man can be so great he

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may never recover from it.

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They say that one of the hardest ministries

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to maintain is a ministry of evangelism.

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It truly is amazing that Billy Graham has

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gone on for so many years and many

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others.

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Oswald J.

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Smith, now over 80 years of age.

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Bob Singh, regardless of things we may not

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agree with and the extremism that has caused

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much grief within that work certainly is still

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a tremendous testimony of the grace of God.

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80 years of age.

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Only recently has health beginning to go down.

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There are many, many others.

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Being filled with the Spirit is the normal

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Christian life.

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When we teach on this subject I think

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we need to teach the brothers and sisters

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not only what this is but what it

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is not.

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Being filled with the Spirit you may want

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to note a few of the things that

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it's not.

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It does not mean you always feel wonderful.

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It does not mean that you always feel

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wonderful.

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The Spirit-filled man is still very human.

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In my mind I've been working very, very

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much on a new book.

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I'll probably write it in my retirement which

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means I probably won't write it.

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But I was going to title the book

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The Human Factor.

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I wanted to borrow some of your testimonies.

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The Human Factor.

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And one of the things that has caused

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much grief in O.M. and O.M.

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India especially is the failure to recognize the

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human factor.

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That every leader, every anointed man is a

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human being subject to the human factors, the

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weaknesses.

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Legalism, as I said yesterday, has paid a

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heavy toll on the church in India.

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The idea that you're not spiritual if your

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hair is not cut at a certain length.

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You can be sure I didn't want to

553
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,440
take any chances with any of you.

554
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:37,780
And so I got a Nepali haircut before

555
00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:39,620
coming down to Butwal.

556
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080
It was a beautiful experience because it was

557
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,660
so cheap.

558
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,800
You know, you can't realize the blessing of

559
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840
working in India where everything is so cheap

560
00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:55,480
if this is the only place you work

561
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600
because I'm sure you see how the prices

562
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760
in India are going up, up, up.

563
00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:04,660
But you know, if you go in Germany

564
00:27:04,660 --> 00:27:06,140
and you're in a railway station and you

565
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:07,860
just happen to crave a cup of tea,

566
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,980
you'll never get a decent one, I will

567
00:27:09,980 --> 00:27:10,640
tell you that.

568
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,680
It's going to cost you about nine rupees

569
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,660
Indian for a cup of tea.

570
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,040
And when you come out here to India

571
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,240
and you discover how inexpensively a lot of

572
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,440
things can be done, it really does challenge

573
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320
you to try to emphasize India a little

574
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,680
more.

575
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Some people feel that for years George Burwell

576
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,260
has had the rest of the movement by

577
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:41,160
its throat in order that India may go

578
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,620
forward.

579
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:45,260
And to this day, finance for India gets

580
00:27:45,260 --> 00:27:48,600
absolute number one priority in all of OM

581
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,120
worldwide.

582
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,320
If ten groups all need money, India will

583
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960
always generally get it first, if we know

584
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,240
that the need is there.

585
00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:02,100
Sometimes, people like Alfie are a little hesitant

586
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:03,380
to let us know.

587
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Other times, there's a lot of confusion as

588
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,040
to what the situation is.

589
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:13,120
We count this a great privilege because we

590
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,780
highly esteem what you're doing.

591
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,380
Do not think because I come out with

592
00:28:17,380 --> 00:28:20,760
some negative things that we are not just

593
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:26,360
in the total picture just so wonderfully thrilled

594
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:27,380
about what you're doing.

595
00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:29,320
In the midst of the struggles and the

596
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,240
failures and the problems, we believe this is

597
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,100
an anointed work.

598
00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:37,680
We believe the Holy Spirit is bringing to

599
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,280
pass an important and historic work.

600
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:44,940
But of course, we long to go on.

601
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,960
My greatest burden really is your own spiritual

602
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,400
walk.

603
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,640
I wonder if some of you are being

604
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,820
driven a little bit into extremes at times

605
00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:00,800
because of the failure to understand the human

606
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:08,020
factor, to understand your own humanity, to understand

607
00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:09,480
your own limitations.

608
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:12,020
Billy Graham said that if he had to

609
00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:17,540
do things all over again, he would pace

610
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:18,320
himself more.

611
00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:22,620
It's incredibly hard in O.M. in some

612
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:28,180
places to pace yourself because people look down

613
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:30,920
spiritually on people who are just trying to

614
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,660
relax, who are just trying to get a

615
00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:35,520
little bit of a break.

616
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
It's interesting that one of our main sisters

617
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,380
has not had a break or a holiday

618
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,240
I don't know for how long, a year

619
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,560
or two.

620
00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:51,090
We somehow seem to have it in our

621
00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:55,270
minds that a holiday must mean we've run

622
00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:59,830
out of steam or we're going through a

623
00:29:59,830 --> 00:30:00,570
hard time.

624
00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:03,210
We don't take a holiday when we're feeling

625
00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:05,570
great, we're committed to the work, we're highly

626
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:07,050
motivated, we're filled with the Spirit.

627
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:08,710
We don't take a holiday or a break

628
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:09,310
at that time.

629
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,030
What an absolute mistake that is.

630
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:15,970
Some of you are going to wait until

631
00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:17,610
you have a nervous breakdown and then you're

632
00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:18,590
going to ask for a holiday and for

633
00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:20,250
some of you that'll be the end.

634
00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:21,630
You'll never recover.

635
00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:25,590
You're afraid to talk to your leader.

636
00:30:25,670 --> 00:30:27,390
I hear this often in O.M. I

637
00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:28,890
don't feel my leader's approachable.

638
00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:32,230
When you say that you're demonstrating your own

639
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:35,310
immaturity together with perhaps his unapproachability.

640
00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:37,070
Two wrongs never make a right.

641
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:42,030
Some people outwardly never will be very approachable.

642
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:45,590
History shows us that many great, great Christian

643
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:49,750
leaders were not very approachable at least to

644
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:51,290
certain types of people.

645
00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:54,250
But the man who knows the Word of

646
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:56,350
God and loves the Lord Jesus Christ will

647
00:30:56,350 --> 00:30:57,250
approach Him anyway.

648
00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:01,910
And if he senses rejection in the first

649
00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:04,830
effort just like a boxing match, he will

650
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:06,710
go back for round two.

651
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:11,570
Building relationships is not easy.

652
00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:16,010
And it deeply grieves me that so many

653
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:18,830
people give up trying to build a relationship

654
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:21,450
with this brother or that brother because in

655
00:31:21,450 --> 00:31:23,330
round one it didn't work out.

656
00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:28,490
I have people who totally reject me on

657
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:30,430
the simple basis that I forgot their name.

658
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:36,030
I've only had 23,000 people in Operation

659
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:36,770
Mobilization.

660
00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:39,830
You know, often we get false ideas about

661
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:40,470
Christian leaders.

662
00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:43,590
Some people because in an unusual way I

663
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:46,370
remembered their names, they've gossiped that I have

664
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:49,630
a tremendous memory which only hinders further progress

665
00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:52,530
because then when I don't remember the person

666
00:31:52,530 --> 00:31:53,450
really feels bad.

667
00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:54,950
They feel they're the special case.

668
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:58,770
I don't have that great a memory.

669
00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:02,650
I have a mediocre memory.

670
00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:06,030
I remember some and I don't remember others.

671
00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:09,210
If you want to go into a very

672
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:13,330
nerve-bending place, especially someone in my position,

673
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:14,310
visit the doulos.

674
00:32:16,410 --> 00:32:19,370
One Mexican girl shared with me that she

675
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:23,070
told a friend that she just couldn't consider

676
00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:25,350
me as a friend since I had never

677
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:26,570
even shaken her hand.

678
00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:27,810
Do you know what it is to go

679
00:32:27,810 --> 00:32:29,050
on a ship and try to shake hands

680
00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:29,890
with 300 people?

681
00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:32,050
So right with the first 50.

682
00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:34,570
After that, you can't remember which ones you

683
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:36,270
have shaken hands with and which ones you

684
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:36,950
haven't.

685
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,450
Especially as they appear from all different parts

686
00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:41,750
of the ship at different times.

687
00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:44,610
And so you're going back to some saying,

688
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:46,290
oh, praise the Lord, it's really good to

689
00:32:46,290 --> 00:32:46,830
meet you, brother.

690
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:48,450
And he says, you just met me.

691
00:32:53,970 --> 00:32:59,030
And as I was going around the ship

692
00:32:59,030 --> 00:33:03,190
on sort of a tour, I dodged around

693
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:06,270
the corner and into a tiny room and

694
00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:08,490
for some reason I said hello to this

695
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:11,190
Mexican girl and I shook her hand.

696
00:33:12,410 --> 00:33:15,570
Just a few hours before, she was more

697
00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:18,510
or less assuming that she would never even

698
00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:20,150
meet me and certainly she would never shake

699
00:33:20,150 --> 00:33:21,530
my hand and therefore I would never be

700
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:22,050
her friend.

701
00:33:22,550 --> 00:33:24,690
And you can imagine how it just about

702
00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:25,410
blew her away.

703
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:28,090
She must have thought someone was talking.

704
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:30,590
I didn't know anything about her.

705
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:31,910
I wouldn't even be able to tell you

706
00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:33,130
who she was today.

707
00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:36,550
But somehow the spirit or the coincidence or

708
00:33:36,550 --> 00:33:38,110
the providence or whatever you want to call

709
00:33:38,110 --> 00:33:40,270
it, led me to just go into that

710
00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:42,350
little room and say hello to her, ask

711
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:44,750
her name, because I speak Spanish, and shake

712
00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:45,630
her hand.

713
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:47,630
Of course, that was a victory.

714
00:33:48,570 --> 00:33:50,550
You know, that just about, if you know

715
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:53,410
the big term in America, blew her away.

716
00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:55,990
Not literally, for those of you who are

717
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:56,890
learning English.

718
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:02,430
But in this kind of work, for every

719
00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:05,070
one that you, that you win, you seem

720
00:34:05,070 --> 00:34:06,050
to lose some.

721
00:34:07,449 --> 00:34:09,929
And so many of us as leaders live

722
00:34:09,929 --> 00:34:12,250
under the cloud that we are unapproachable.

723
00:34:14,429 --> 00:34:17,469
You have as many women confessing to you

724
00:34:17,469 --> 00:34:19,489
over the years that they're afraid of you.

725
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:24,489
I've had my secretaries at times finally acknowledge

726
00:34:24,489 --> 00:34:26,350
that they were afraid of me.

727
00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:29,389
I accept that.

728
00:34:30,170 --> 00:34:33,750
I must at times be very, very frightening.

729
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:36,850
Sometimes my visit to my own office consists

730
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:38,510
of about five minutes.

731
00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:42,290
I come in from one series of whatever

732
00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:44,929
I've been into, wanting to do more in

733
00:34:44,929 --> 00:34:47,010
five minutes than any three people would want

734
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:48,590
to do in several hours.

735
00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:53,210
Including getting my proper cup of tea, which

736
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:55,489
really needs the right amount of milk, the

737
00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:57,770
right amount of sugar, at the right temperature.

738
00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:01,410
You know, not even one out of ten

739
00:35:01,410 --> 00:35:02,890
in O.M. can make a decent cup

740
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:03,210
of tea.

741
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:10,410
Now we know this is of the flesh,

742
00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:16,070
but the flesh enjoys it, and so it

743
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:19,410
becomes another hassle, another problem.

744
00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:22,850
I've had to really repent.

745
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:24,990
I've had to take extra time with people

746
00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:30,590
and just allow them to get to know

747
00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:35,410
me better in more calm situations, so that

748
00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:38,490
in turn I became more approachable.

749
00:35:40,090 --> 00:35:42,270
And I hope you will do that as

750
00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:42,570
well.

751
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:47,030
If people are not coming to you in

752
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:52,190
your area, opening their hearts, sharing with you,

753
00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:56,550
not everybody, but some, it is a sign

754
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:58,910
that perhaps you are unapproachable.

755
00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:03,870
You have an air about you that sets

756
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:08,310
you apart from ordinary folk who would like

757
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:10,890
to talk to you and like to share

758
00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:11,930
with you.

759
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,360
Fellowship should be as much a vital part

760
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,480
of the work in India as evangelism.

761
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Evangelism should spring from a team that is

762
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,540
in fellowship one with another.

763
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Being filled with the Holy Spirit will bring

764
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,860
fellowship.

765
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,680
It will bring approachability because with it comes

766
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,480
humility.

767
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:45,660
The human factor will still be there.

768
00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:49,920
Failure at times will still be there.

769
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:52,100
One of the men who was touched in

770
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:55,440
that Canadian revival has written a book Failure,

771
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,100
the Back Door to Success.

772
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,340
Don't be afraid to acknowledge failure to your

773
00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:00,680
team.

774
00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:03,020
I can't believe it when I meet with

775
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:05,520
people who have never heard their leader acknowledge

776
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,460
real failure.

777
00:37:09,790 --> 00:37:13,910
Don't be afraid to acknowledge failure and to

778
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:16,910
share some of the struggles you are having.

779
00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:21,610
If you just try to maintain this air

780
00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:24,450
of spirituality that you don't have these struggles,

781
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:26,790
you don't have these problems, you're way up

782
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:28,950
here, some of the team members for a

783
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:31,170
while they may be captivated by it.

784
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:34,230
But ultimately it's going to cave in.

785
00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:39,090
And we want long-term relationships with people.

786
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:41,930
We want reality at any cost.

787
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:46,350
So the spirit-filled life does not destroy

788
00:37:46,350 --> 00:37:52,350
your humanity, but slowly, continuously brings it into

789
00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:52,950
control.

790
00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:55,990
It's a long-term program.

791
00:37:57,670 --> 00:38:00,030
Don't be surprised when some of these team

792
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,170
members do something completely stupid.

793
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:05,830
See, there's a great danger in OM that

794
00:38:05,830 --> 00:38:08,310
for a short people we force, for a

795
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:10,790
short time we force people into a spiritual

796
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:11,270
capsule.

797
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:14,170
I think this is especially true of women.

798
00:38:15,310 --> 00:38:16,870
Because some of the things in OM are

799
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:20,310
so contrary to the cultural lifestyle of a

800
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:20,970
woman in India.

801
00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:24,090
And so for a period of time we

802
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,750
force them into a particular lifestyle.

803
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:27,250
We don't mean to do that, it just

804
00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,870
so easily happens.

805
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:33,610
And we need to ask ourselves what's happening

806
00:38:33,610 --> 00:38:35,310
to these women when they leave the team.

807
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:39,370
That's why I believe that discipling women in

808
00:38:39,370 --> 00:38:41,850
Category 2, in the context of their own

809
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:44,830
culture, is as important as bringing them onto

810
00:38:44,830 --> 00:38:47,050
the team and discipling them in Category 1.

811
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:50,150
And I think if we cut down on

812
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:52,570
the number of women we'll be able to

813
00:38:52,570 --> 00:38:56,510
increase our input into Category 2, discipling and

814
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:59,710
encouraging women where they are in the culture

815
00:38:59,710 --> 00:39:00,630
where they are.

816
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:04,990
Not just single women, but married women.

817
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:09,610
And I just pray that many of our

818
00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:13,650
women will develop an anointed women's ministry.

819
00:39:14,050 --> 00:39:15,870
Teaching in small groups.

820
00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:18,030
Sharing.

821
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:21,710
In O.M. worldwide there is an enormous

822
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:24,130
need for more women who will have a

823
00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:24,890
public ministry.

824
00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:26,630
An enormous need.

825
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:30,910
One sister wrote me a note on the

826
00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:35,930
doulats just saying how much she was praying

827
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:38,110
and hoping that some of the married women,

828
00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:40,170
she was thinking of one in particular, but

829
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:42,870
I'll use it in general terms, you know,

830
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:45,410
would develop a public ministry.

831
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:47,550
There are things that women can say that

832
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:48,870
men cannot say.

833
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:51,470
Things that women understand that men will barely

834
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:52,110
understand.

835
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:54,870
There are open doors that women will have

836
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:56,450
that we will never have.

837
00:39:57,030 --> 00:40:00,230
Let us never, men, fall to the pit

838
00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:02,310
of thinking that women's work is secondary.

839
00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:06,330
The reason we would like less women is

840
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:08,770
not because they are less effective.

841
00:40:08,770 --> 00:40:11,430
It's simply because the women's work is more

842
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:14,710
complex and it's the women's leaders trying to

843
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:18,330
cope with all of this that would prefer

844
00:40:18,330 --> 00:40:22,590
less women so that a more in-depth

845
00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:25,570
training can take place.

846
00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:30,010
We think of being filled with the Spirit

847
00:40:31,090 --> 00:40:33,190
when we're ministering the Word of God.

848
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:38,010
But in contemporary society we need to emphasize

849
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:40,530
being filled with the Spirit in rearing your

850
00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:40,870
children.

851
00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:44,710
Some of the mistakes I made as a

852
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:47,890
father in moments when I was not walking

853
00:40:47,890 --> 00:40:52,590
in the Spirit I think really hurt my

854
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:53,230
own children.

855
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Spirit-controlled discipline in the home is not

856
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,020
easy.

857
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:04,400
Under the pressure of home life, the pressure

858
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,940
that OM creates, it's so easy to get

859
00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:09,340
into the flesh.

860
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,840
I find, especially in certain cultures, men very

861
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,280
unwilling to really share about the sins they

862
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,420
have committed in their own home.

863
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,520
They have operation cover-up.

864
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,240
If Watergate is a tragedy, it's just as

865
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,720
much a tragedy when we're trying to cover

866
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,240
up our sins.

867
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:39,720
Afraid to really walk in the light.

868
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,680
Even end up telling lies.

869
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,820
Yes, Christians tell lies.

870
00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:50,380
It causes a fear of the truth being

871
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:54,100
known and what may come as a result

872
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:54,440
of that.

873
00:41:55,220 --> 00:41:57,740
We can be filled with the Spirit and

874
00:41:57,740 --> 00:41:58,100
weep.

875
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,620
We can be filled with the Spirit and

876
00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:00,980
laugh.

877
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,240
We can be filled with the Spirit and

878
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:03,700
be hurt.

879
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Being filled with the Spirit does not liquidate

880
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,360
normal emotion, struggle, heartache.

881
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,400
Being filled with the Spirit is not an

882
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,400
arrival point.

883
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,420
It's a continuous journey.

884
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,380
It is not an arrival point.

885
00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:21,720
I'm here now.

886
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,520
The main thing now is to get other

887
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,880
people to come up and be with me.

888
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,420
We're constantly growing.

889
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:30,440
No matter how filled we are, we need

890
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,420
to be filled more.

891
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:38,070
Somebody came on D.L. Moody who emphasized

892
00:42:38,070 --> 00:42:40,290
being filled with the Spirit and said, Look

893
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:43,110
Moody, why are you always saying that we

894
00:42:43,110 --> 00:42:45,350
need to be filled again and again with

895
00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:46,090
the Holy Spirit?

896
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:48,830
And Moody said, Because I leak.

897
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:51,710
I leak.

898
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:55,910
Like the little barrel you pulled off the

899
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:56,630
truck yesterday.

900
00:42:57,610 --> 00:42:58,070
The leak.

901
00:42:59,950 --> 00:43:01,290
All of us have leaks.

902
00:43:02,190 --> 00:43:03,310
I have leaks.

903
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:06,150
I have to be filled again and again.

904
00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:10,170
I've heard testimonies of some that say they

905
00:43:10,170 --> 00:43:11,730
have a good quiet time and it carries

906
00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:12,950
them through the rest of the day.

907
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:14,730
I'm not one of those fortunate souls.

908
00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:20,170
Because I have the ability to go directly

909
00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:22,830
from my quiet time into the kitchen and

910
00:43:22,830 --> 00:43:25,410
say something totally in the flesh to my

911
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:25,910
dear wife.

912
00:43:28,890 --> 00:43:32,210
Now those of you who are on a

913
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:34,690
higher plateau of spiritual reality than me in

914
00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:36,930
that area, you know, praise the Lord.

915
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:39,250
Praise the Lord.

916
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Our quiet time is not some kind of

917
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,240
a Christian Ouija board.

918
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,400
It's not a matter of just feeding certain

919
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,080
clichés and Bible verses into your mind in

920
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
the morning and therefore like some kind of

921
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,540
programmed computer the rest of the day it

922
00:43:58,540 --> 00:44:01,080
all just ticks out in neat, orderly fashion.

923
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
There has to be the moment by moment

924
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,560
crucifixion.

925
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,520
Going into that kitchen after your quiet time

926
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,080
and whatever happens, whatever your wife says to

927
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
somehow be able to take the lower road,

928
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,940
to somehow respond in love and to have

929
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:21,060
a sensitivity toward her and where she is.

930
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,920
She missed her quiet time trying to get

931
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,640
you to your perfectly patterned cup of tea

932
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,360
or perfectly brewed cup of tea.

933
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:34,360
We all have a bit of our fathers

934
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,200
within us.

935
00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:38,220
If you want to understand yourself and I've

936
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:42,460
had real struggle in that, understanding myself, understand

937
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:43,400
your own father.

938
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:46,140
Some of you may not even know who

939
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:46,940
your father is.

940
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,700
The one that gave you the very genes

941
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:50,600
that are in your body.

942
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,120
But I can remember my father grousing at

943
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,920
my mother because the egg was not boiled

944
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:07,200
the exact amount of hardness.

945
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,800
We have in the western world and I'm

946
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,420
sure you do in India soft boiled egg,

947
00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:17,540
medium soft boiled, hard boiled, in many different

948
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:17,960
eggs.

949
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,500
And we are a family into soft boiled

950
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:22,040
eggs.

951
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:26,720
And yet the man who likes a soft

952
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,040
boiled egg hates a runny egg.

953
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,140
I'll never forget Bak Singh, the only man

954
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:32,940
in the world who forced me to eat

955
00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:33,620
a raw egg.

956
00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:35,120
He's a raw egg neurotic.

957
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:38,200
He pops raw eggs into his mouth, you

958
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,360
know, like a squirrel would eat acorns.

959
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600
And he felt this was one of the

960
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,440
keys to taking me further in the things

961
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,000
of the spirit.

962
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,740
And he insisted on me eating a raw

963
00:45:52,740 --> 00:45:53,040
egg.

964
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,900
It's a miracle that my entire stomach content

965
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,300
did not come up on his plate.

966
00:46:00,860 --> 00:46:04,340
I like my eggs cooked at just the

967
00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:05,060
certain temperature.

968
00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:08,480
And I eat my eggs in a very

969
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,060
special way.

970
00:46:09,140 --> 00:46:10,640
I put them in a little cup.

971
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,720
The cup has to be the exact right

972
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,040
size so that the egg does not drop

973
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,900
into the cup so you cannot get it.

974
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,440
But it sits in the cup like a

975
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,460
Nepali hat on the top of a Nepali

976
00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:23,780
hat.

977
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,980
And then I cut the toast into well

978
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:34,180
-arranged strips.

979
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,520
And I dip the toast into the yolk

980
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:37,980
of the egg.

981
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,540
Now if the egg is hard, the toast

982
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:41,460
does not go down.

983
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,840
And everything must be just according to timing.

984
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,440
It's usually three and one-fourth minute on

985
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,220
the egg timer.

986
00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:52,360
You have to have an egg timer.

987
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:55,880
But if the egg has come from the

988
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,880
refrigerator, a fourth of a minute extra will

989
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,760
have to be added.

990
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,140
Otherwise, the yolk will not be in the

991
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:04,300
right place.

992
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,520
And so I dip the toast.

993
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:09,520
Then, of course, when you put it in

994
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,300
your mouth naturally, after that, see we eat

995
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:13,260
with our hands in the West, this particular

996
00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:13,620
meal.

997
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Then, of course, with a spoon.

998
00:47:16,060 --> 00:47:17,580
The spoon must be the right size.

999
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:20,080
In the Western world, we have over ten

1000
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,060
different sized spoons.

1001
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,340
In OM, you go to an OM conference,

1002
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,420
every spoon is different.

1003
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,820
And you have to especially beware of the

1004
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:40,560
plastic spoons because in going down into the

1005
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,540
egg, at the final moment of challenge, the

1006
00:47:43,540 --> 00:47:44,580
spoon breaks.

1007
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,080
And then the bottom of the spoon is

1008
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,260
caught under the egg.

1009
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:54,460
You're tearing the spoon trying to get it

1010
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:55,240
in your mouth.

1011
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,120
You may think that's an exaggeration, but I

1012
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
have discovered in the spiritual life that the

1013
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,420
littlest things, the littlest things can cause the

1014
00:48:05,420 --> 00:48:06,280
greatest crisis.

1015
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,280
And my father used to yell at my

1016
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,440
mother for not making his egg right.

1017
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,800
I'll never forget him saying when she was

1018
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,040
probably about 45 years of age, I'm sure

1019
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,400
he was half kidding, half joking, but he

1020
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,900
said, if you're not going to do better

1021
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,380
than that, then I'll trade you in for

1022
00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:26,400
two younger ones.

1023
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:29,800
Remember as a young man hearing that over

1024
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120
the kitchen table and wondering exactly whether he

1025
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,360
was serious about that or not.

1026
00:48:38,260 --> 00:48:43,040
God wants the spirit-filled life to penetrate

1027
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,360
the routine, the ordinary, the loading of the

1028
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,560
truck, the preparing of the meals, every aspect

1029
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,680
of our life.

1030
00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:56,540
I remember once counseling a couple that were

1031
00:48:56,540 --> 00:48:58,360
about to divide in their marriage.

1032
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,700
And you may think it's big things that

1033
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:03,680
destroy marriages.

1034
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Often it's little things, little habits that men

1035
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800
pick up that just drive their wives crazy.

1036
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,020
This fellow had the non-bat habit.

1037
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:21,700
Somebody told me the Tibetans only bathe four

1038
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:22,500
times a year.

1039
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:25,800
I don't know, that's probably an exaggeration.

1040
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:29,960
But most of you are not Tibetans as

1041
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,660
far as I know.

1042
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:35,180
And you may, during your single days on

1043
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:38,580
OM, get away without too many baths.

1044
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,980
In England, baths.

1045
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,180
But when you're married, you know, bathing and

1046
00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:48,960
having a clean presentation is often very, very

1047
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,020
important to women.

1048
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Some of you think we want you in

1049
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,100
OM to prepare you for a great evangelistic

1050
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:57,520
ministry.

1051
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,080
We want you in OM to prepare you

1052
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,700
for life work, for marriage, for employment, for

1053
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:06,240
whatever God leads you into.

1054
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Let's not put a guilt trip on these

1055
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,860
brothers in the work who don't feel led

1056
00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:17,560
to go into what's classified as Christian work.

1057
00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:21,240
Let's have a kind of balanced program that

1058
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,320
will prepare people for evangelism as well as

1059
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,680
life in the whole.

1060
00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:32,120
A little research into the marriage of ex

1061
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,380
-OMers in India would be interesting.

1062
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,820
Have they learned the spirit-filled life in

1063
00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:39,300
the whole?

1064
00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:44,660
Next, I would say that spirit-filled living

1065
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:46,020
is not extremism.

1066
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,300
And beware of biographies of great men of

1067
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,760
God that don't always give you the total

1068
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,120
picture.

1069
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,440
It was the custom, it was the custom

1070
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:02,280
not so many years ago that when you

1071
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,140
write a biography, you don't include anything negative.

1072
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:12,000
A lot of young people, for example, are

1073
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,860
very guilty about their sex problems.

1074
00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:18,200
A little research would probably show you that

1075
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,820
most of your men on your teams, I

1076
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:23,100
don't know about the women, you could teach

1077
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,360
me, most of the men have guilt problems

1078
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,120
in connection with sex, especially masturbation.

1079
00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:36,650
So often, so often in my counseling, when

1080
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:39,310
I got involved in in-depth counseling, I

1081
00:51:39,310 --> 00:51:41,970
found out the young man here in India,

1082
00:51:42,090 --> 00:51:44,650
I've spent many, many hours in counseling Indians,

1083
00:51:46,190 --> 00:51:47,310
and it's similar in the West.

1084
00:51:47,850 --> 00:51:49,650
They have a lot of difficulty with this

1085
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:50,590
thing, masturbation.

1086
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:52,350
Tremendous guilt.

1087
00:51:54,050 --> 00:51:55,230
They don't know what to do.

1088
00:51:56,830 --> 00:51:58,410
Some of them go for months and they

1089
00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:01,110
don't have any problem, and then it hits

1090
00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:01,330
them.

1091
00:52:03,010 --> 00:52:05,270
Some have even believed this was the seventh

1092
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:06,030
deadly sin.

1093
00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:10,210
Some have felt this meant they'd never win

1094
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:11,130
any souls to Christ.

1095
00:52:11,650 --> 00:52:13,490
Some felt this meant they'd never be happily

1096
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:13,890
married.

1097
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:18,550
There's a strong judgment concept in many Christians

1098
00:52:18,550 --> 00:52:18,890
in India.

1099
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:20,790
They believe they're going to be judged and

1100
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:23,330
when the next day something bad happens, they

1101
00:52:23,330 --> 00:52:25,350
think that's a result of the previous day's

1102
00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:25,570
sin.

1103
00:52:26,690 --> 00:52:29,270
There's a lot of superstition among God's people.

1104
00:52:29,950 --> 00:52:32,170
A lot of paganism has crept back in.

1105
00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:34,410
A lot of Hinduism has crept back in.

1106
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:36,510
All kinds of things.

1107
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:39,110
I don't know how we can possibly continue

1108
00:52:39,110 --> 00:52:42,450
to work without leaders having a counseling ministry.

1109
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:46,850
Every leader should have almost a course, at

1110
00:52:46,850 --> 00:52:49,050
least a mini course in counseling, and I

1111
00:52:49,050 --> 00:52:51,970
don't think importing Western courses, I don't believe

1112
00:52:51,970 --> 00:52:52,630
that's the answer.

1113
00:52:53,010 --> 00:52:56,550
I think some of you studying counseling, people

1114
00:52:56,550 --> 00:52:59,110
like Joseph in the training program, and then

1115
00:52:59,110 --> 00:53:00,730
putting that into an Indian cup.

1116
00:53:02,970 --> 00:53:04,650
I know some of you have a burden

1117
00:53:04,650 --> 00:53:05,850
in this area already.

1118
00:53:06,310 --> 00:53:07,790
Maybe the Lord wants to lead some of

1119
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:09,870
you out of OM to get further training

1120
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:12,470
and then to be able to minister to

1121
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:15,470
the Indian church in this difficult area.

1122
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:17,970
I know, of course, it can become extreme.

1123
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:20,710
I've been preaching on that lately.

1124
00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:24,790
But if nothing's going on, it's not going

1125
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:25,510
to go extreme.

1126
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:29,410
I can't believe it when I find out

1127
00:53:29,410 --> 00:53:31,250
a team member has never had a real

1128
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:32,650
conversation with his team leader.

1129
00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:37,330
And some of you leaders, team leaders, you

1130
00:53:37,330 --> 00:53:39,310
need to understand, you are the key to

1131
00:53:39,310 --> 00:53:39,570
this.

1132
00:53:39,930 --> 00:53:42,510
It's not Alfie and Ray and Mattai and

1133
00:53:42,510 --> 00:53:45,350
Joseph D'Souza, it's the team leader that's the

1134
00:53:45,350 --> 00:53:46,710
key to operation mobilization.

1135
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:48,610
And if you aren't doing your job, we

1136
00:53:48,610 --> 00:53:49,570
might as well retire.

1137
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:53,170
Because this work is so big, there's so

1138
00:53:53,170 --> 00:53:57,030
many problems, that it's impossible to any great

1139
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:58,950
degree, it can be done to some degree,

1140
00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:03,590
for Alfie and Ray and the country coordinator

1141
00:54:03,590 --> 00:54:06,270
or the state coordinator to get down on

1142
00:54:06,270 --> 00:54:09,250
any long term basis to the new recruit

1143
00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:10,490
or the team member.

1144
00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:15,570
I don't think there's anything wrong with having

1145
00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:17,410
a little notebook in which you keep a

1146
00:54:17,410 --> 00:54:19,510
record of the times you're spending with the

1147
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:21,750
team members and determine that in the course

1148
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:23,670
of one month you will have a personal

1149
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:27,430
hour long time with every team member as

1150
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:27,850
a minimum.

1151
00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:32,310
Jack Rendell leads my team, I wouldn't be

1152
00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:34,730
foolish enough to think at my stage in

1153
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:36,730
my ministry I could lead a team.

1154
00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:40,650
He spends time with almost every team member

1155
00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:42,910
every month or two and his team member,

1156
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:45,770
his team is three times the size of

1157
00:54:45,770 --> 00:54:46,330
your team.

1158
00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:48,030
If you only have eight or nine men

1159
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:50,570
in your team, there's no excuse, there's no

1160
00:54:50,570 --> 00:54:50,990
excuse.

1161
00:54:53,010 --> 00:54:55,070
It doesn't have to be a heavy sharing

1162
00:54:55,070 --> 00:54:57,390
session, you don't have to try to fish,

1163
00:54:57,690 --> 00:55:00,230
you know, fish for their sins, I'm not

1164
00:55:00,230 --> 00:55:01,090
talking about that.

1165
00:55:02,970 --> 00:55:06,070
We fellowship, please get this, we're talking about

1166
00:55:06,070 --> 00:55:08,510
some very basic things that even people who

1167
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:09,630
have been in the work ten years are

1168
00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:10,590
making mistakes on.

1169
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:14,210
But our fellowship is different with different team

1170
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:14,650
members.

1171
00:55:15,010 --> 00:55:18,010
With some you may mainly listen, with others

1172
00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:19,450
you may have to do more talking.

1173
00:55:23,830 --> 00:55:26,950
And I think we want, as God gives

1174
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:29,950
the grace, ask brothers, how are they doing

1175
00:55:29,950 --> 00:55:31,770
in their basic spiritual life?

1176
00:55:32,090 --> 00:55:34,470
Do they have any particular problem?

1177
00:55:36,290 --> 00:55:38,450
And maybe in the second or third time,

1178
00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:43,270
you can share maybe your own struggle, sometimes

1179
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:45,910
in the first time, some of your own

1180
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:50,430
struggles, which may enable them to feel freer

1181
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,870
or to feel free about sharing some of

1182
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:54,810
their struggles.

1183
00:55:58,410 --> 00:56:05,150
We have to emphasize forgiveness.

1184
00:56:05,810 --> 00:56:08,690
We must emphasize forgiveness.

1185
00:56:10,570 --> 00:56:13,970
And that's many battles in the Christian life

1186
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:18,170
are not won in one encounter.

1187
00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:19,550
It's many battles.

1188
00:56:20,890 --> 00:56:22,230
Battles with lust.

1189
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:26,990
For most people, even most men of God,

1190
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:28,650
and I've had contact with a lot of

1191
00:56:28,650 --> 00:56:31,550
men of God in 25 nations for 27

1192
00:56:31,550 --> 00:56:32,050
years.

1193
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:33,390
I still have much to learn.

1194
00:56:34,270 --> 00:56:35,650
The battle is continuous.

1195
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:39,710
With some it's temper or irritability.

1196
00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:41,730
Long after you're going to get victory over

1197
00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:44,830
temper, you may have a struggle with irritability.

1198
00:56:45,450 --> 00:56:46,690
With others, it's jealousy.

1199
00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:48,850
With others, it's bitterness.

1200
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:53,390
With others, it's shyness.

1201
00:56:54,590 --> 00:56:56,930
With others, it's some sexual thing.

1202
00:56:57,650 --> 00:56:58,670
Lust of the eyes.

1203
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,740
I would be very foolish to tell you

1204
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:07,360
that I had 100% victory over the

1205
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,480
lust of the eyes.

1206
00:57:09,140 --> 00:57:10,620
It's a continual battle.

1207
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:12,980
The last couple of months have been great.

1208
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:16,260
I've been absent from the tougher areas of

1209
00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:16,700
conflict.

1210
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,340
Traveling in a bus is much easier than

1211
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:21,500
traveling in a train in Europe.

1212
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,340
If you travel in a train in Europe,

1213
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,180
you are going to have head-on collisions

1214
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:29,080
with some of the most seductive literature that

1215
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,460
the mind can ever face.

1216
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,060
I know of very few men that go

1217
00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:36,460
through London without some moments of failure.

1218
00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:45,220
And the far greater danger, not the moments

1219
00:57:45,220 --> 00:57:48,920
of failure, but the extremism that makes it

1220
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,620
impossible for that young man to regain that

1221
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:56,480
ground, appropriate that forgiveness, have his mind cleansed,

1222
00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:58,120
and be able to move on.

1223
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,620
He may do it for a while, but

1224
00:58:01,620 --> 00:58:04,660
if the sin and the lust reoccurs, he

1225
00:58:04,660 --> 00:58:07,540
begins to doubt everything he has ever experienced

1226
00:58:07,540 --> 00:58:08,100
in Christ.

1227
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,980
And he begins to blame God, especially if

1228
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:13,880
he's had a deliverance experience.

1229
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,060
Now, one of the extremes we have got

1230
00:58:16,060 --> 00:58:18,260
into in India in years gone by is

1231
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:19,380
the deliverance extreme.

1232
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,200
The conviction or the teaching that the fullness

1233
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,100
of the Holy Spirit means total deliverance.

1234
00:58:29,620 --> 00:58:31,680
And, of course, we get people who, when

1235
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,900
they counsel and they find a brother has

1236
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,480
a lust problem, they feel he has a

1237
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,420
demon of lust.

1238
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,420
You ever run across this teaching?

1239
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,540
And so, we get one or two together

1240
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:45,360
and we cast out the demon of lust.

1241
00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:48,400
I've hardly ever known a case where someone

1242
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,200
was totally delivered through that kind of thing.

1243
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Now, I've just dealt with it again.

1244
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,620
A brother in OM had a lot of

1245
00:58:55,620 --> 00:58:56,060
problems.

1246
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,820
He was undergoing counsel.

1247
00:58:58,460 --> 00:58:59,740
He was not coming into victory.

1248
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,360
So, he went back to an extremist teacher

1249
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,880
who he knew.

1250
00:59:03,220 --> 00:59:05,080
They cast 23 demons out of him.

1251
00:59:06,660 --> 00:59:08,100
Those of us who know him know that

1252
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,580
after that he wasn't much different.

1253
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,160
So many other different forms of health were

1254
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,900
going on at the same time, plus discipline

1255
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:18,360
being put upon him.

1256
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:20,480
Sometimes you do have to discipline people.

1257
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,920
There was some improvement.

1258
00:59:24,420 --> 00:59:25,660
Very difficult to know.

1259
00:59:27,620 --> 00:59:30,000
But the people that get into this casting

1260
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,520
out of demons, they have this little trick

1261
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,200
in their bag.

1262
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,240
When they cast out the demons and everything

1263
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,820
still goes wrong, they say, we missed one.

1264
00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:41,100
No, really.

1265
00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:45,120
I've heard casting out up to 30 demons.

1266
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,120
The one demon that remained caused more grief

1267
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,500
than the 30 that went out.

1268
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,100
How in the world can we cast out

1269
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,280
30 demons and nothing happened?

1270
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,920
What were the demons doing in this man's

1271
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,540
sleeping bag?

1272
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,820
And untold harm has been done to people

1273
01:00:04,820 --> 01:00:07,180
on OM when they have got into this

1274
01:00:07,180 --> 01:00:08,060
kind of extremism.

1275
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:09,840
Untold harm.

1276
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:13,020
And I know there was a lady in

1277
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:15,240
my audience once when I shared a weakness.

1278
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,860
She wanted to have a go at me.

1279
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,740
She felt, you know, they're usually polite and

1280
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:23,100
don't say demon possession.

1281
01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:24,720
That's too hot.

1282
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,980
If they say demon possession and the person's

1283
01:00:27,980 --> 01:00:29,940
a believer, we can really nail them down

1284
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:30,320
quickly.

1285
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:33,060
So they change the terminology and they talk

1286
01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:34,320
about demon obsession.

1287
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,820
Or being under the control.

1288
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,080
Or being in bondage.

1289
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,980
Or, you know, it's all different terminology.

1290
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,080
If you start reading all the books on

1291
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,140
this subject, you'll start leaping in your bed

1292
01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:45,680
in your sleep.

1293
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,120
That's right.

1294
01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:49,960
The demons will be coming right out of

1295
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,140
the mosquito net.

1296
01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:56,100
And personally, I steer clear of a lot

1297
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:56,580
of these books.

1298
01:00:57,300 --> 01:00:58,060
I've read a few.

1299
01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:00,080
I've counseled a lot of people.

1300
01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,660
I believe there are legitimate cases of demon

1301
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:03,120
possession.

1302
01:01:04,180 --> 01:01:06,320
And I believe, of course, that the enemy

1303
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,940
can get a hold on our lives.

1304
01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:11,200
But it's not a simple little black and

1305
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,820
white thing.

1306
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,800
They have books that tell you point by

1307
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,860
point exactly what to do.

1308
01:01:15,140 --> 01:01:17,140
I've had people, when they were casting out

1309
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:19,900
the demon, using the books, reading literally from

1310
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:21,160
the books, reading the text.

1311
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,160
I've noticed that most of the men that

1312
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,980
were heavy in this in the church have

1313
01:01:26,980 --> 01:01:28,580
come out with new books on the spiritual

1314
01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:31,680
warfare and have retreated from making this a

1315
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,720
major part of their ministry.

1316
01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:33,820
Isn't that interesting?

1317
01:01:33,820 --> 01:01:36,240
Can't we learn a little something from this?

1318
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,280
That this is a difficult area.

1319
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:45,260
And that generally today the strategy of Satan

1320
01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:46,960
is a little more sophisticated.

1321
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,040
And I just believe that, especially in a

1322
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,380
work like ours, we need to teach spiritual

1323
01:01:56,380 --> 01:01:57,620
balance in this area.

1324
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:05,160
I try to emphasize the need for daily

1325
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,000
deliverance.

1326
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,400
The need for daily deliverance.

1327
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,200
We can pray for a brother without making

1328
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,540
him feel, please get this, without making him

1329
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:20,200
feel he is a special case.

1330
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:26,520
Without making the whole thing into a very

1331
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,260
high-peaked emotional situation.

1332
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,340
We have had people in OM fake demon

1333
01:02:32,340 --> 01:02:35,660
possession because in OM in some cases if

1334
01:02:35,660 --> 01:02:37,980
you fake demon possession you will get more

1335
01:02:37,980 --> 01:02:40,260
attention from the leaders in one week than

1336
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:41,820
you had in the previous one year.

1337
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,800
Really, it becomes big.

1338
01:02:44,180 --> 01:02:46,200
They'll be flying in from the nearest headquarters.

1339
01:02:47,340 --> 01:02:49,300
They'll be calling in special help.

1340
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,360
And once in one of our offices in

1341
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,600
England we had a case of fake demon

1342
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,140
possession.

1343
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,460
And sometimes a person's emotions can trick him

1344
01:03:01,460 --> 01:03:04,100
into saying things that are not true because

1345
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:06,460
all of the attention he gets through that

1346
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:06,960
experience.

1347
01:03:07,340 --> 01:03:08,820
And you know, we crave attention.

1348
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,340
People on our team are craving a little

1349
01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:11,860
attention.

1350
01:03:12,220 --> 01:03:13,740
When's the last time you paid them a

1351
01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:14,080
compliment?

1352
01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:17,160
When's the last time you told them something

1353
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,440
that was complimentary?

1354
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,260
In our emphasis to increase book sales and

1355
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:27,460
to face the reality of hard work, let

1356
01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:31,240
us not make the mistake of making the

1357
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,060
book sales the big thing on the team.

1358
01:03:34,180 --> 01:03:36,160
Book sales is still a small thing.

1359
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,760
We have to pay attention to it because

1360
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,560
it's reality.

1361
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,520
It's the bread and butter.

1362
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,320
It's part of life.

1363
01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:45,000
Most people in India spend 10 to 15

1364
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,440
hours a day just surviving.

1365
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:47,900
Just surviving.

1366
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,820
Just getting food in their stomach.

1367
01:03:50,260 --> 01:03:51,460
So if we have a little bit of

1368
01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:54,160
pressure on the tent making side, it's going

1369
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,860
to prepare them for their life's work.

1370
01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:57,740
But it's not the biggest thing on the

1371
01:03:57,740 --> 01:03:58,000
team.

1372
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,940
And when a brother has low book sales,

1373
01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:01,400
you need to encourage him.

1374
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:04,820
You need to spend time with him and

1375
01:04:04,820 --> 01:04:06,280
say, well look, praise the Lord for the

1376
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,440
tracks you were able to give out.

1377
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,820
Acknowledge your own failures in book selling.

1378
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:12,600
The time you went out and sold nothing.

1379
01:04:12,860 --> 01:04:14,540
George Burwell has had such experiences.

1380
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,240
And there's always a better day next week.

1381
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,920
And no one is going to be asked

1382
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,720
immediately to leave a team or be disciplined

1383
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,280
because they don't sell books.

1384
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,440
That is not planned.

1385
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,760
If they spend a whole year and don't

1386
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,760
learn anything, I guess we will have to

1387
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:31,540
search our hearts.

1388
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:33,960
Because I don't believe in India there are

1389
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,580
going to be many who can't sell gospel

1390
01:04:36,580 --> 01:04:40,460
packets and books over a period of a

1391
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:40,640
year.

1392
01:04:40,940 --> 01:04:43,500
But we're far more interested in spiritual life.

1393
01:04:43,740 --> 01:04:45,600
We're far more interested in that person learning

1394
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,680
to accept himself.

1395
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,620
To be a little more relaxed about himself.

1396
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,640
To be able to bounce back after sin

1397
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,420
and failure.

1398
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,800
To be able to walk seven days a

1399
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,160
week in the Holy Spirit.

1400
01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:04,280
Maintaining balance in the midst of revival.

1401
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,100
In the midst of blessing.

1402
01:05:06,860 --> 01:05:08,520
It's not easy.

1403
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,360
It's not easy.

1404
01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:14,040
Beware of those extremes.

1405
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,560
Beware of the total answer.

1406
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:18,980
The easy answer.

1407
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,320
This brother has a really heavy problem.

1408
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,060
Let's lay hands on him and cast out

1409
01:05:24,060 --> 01:05:24,820
the problem.

1410
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Before you do that spend time with him.

1411
01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:30,560
Counsel him.

1412
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,400
Try to get the total picture.

1413
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,880
When you're done you can pray.

1414
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,540
Don't misunderstand me.

1415
01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:38,420
I have meetings in England when people come

1416
01:05:38,420 --> 01:05:40,280
forward after the meeting and I take them

1417
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,460
one at a time and I pray that

1418
01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:44,000
the Lord will deliver them.

1419
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:45,400
The Lord will give them strength.

1420
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,700
But then with it I counsel them.

1421
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:48,720
It's going to be a battle.

1422
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,180
There still may be some failure.

1423
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,940
And they need to grow in the word.

1424
01:05:55,740 --> 01:05:56,940
And they need to learn to repent.

1425
01:05:57,580 --> 01:05:59,520
And they need to learn to accept their

1426
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,060
humanity and not think that spiritual life means

1427
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:04,560
that wings are going to grow out their

1428
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,920
back and they're going to be flying on

1429
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,740
this high level of blessing the rest of

1430
01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:10,240
their life.

1431
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,080
Let me in the latter part of this

1432
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,500
hour I'm controlled by this tape which may

1433
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:20,620
be more than an hour I think it

1434
01:06:20,620 --> 01:06:20,860
is.

1435
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:23,500
Let me just share a few of the

1436
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:26,500
other points that I shared up there in

1437
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:28,680
Canada and then bring this to a close.

1438
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,960
What are some of the other areas of

1439
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,440
difficulty that come when there's blessing there's revival

1440
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,720
there's the fullness of the Holy Spirit?

1441
01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:43,780
I put here confession.

1442
01:06:46,020 --> 01:06:48,740
Some of the revivals have led people to

1443
01:06:48,740 --> 01:06:53,340
confess things publicly that shouldn't be mentioned publicly.

1444
01:06:55,660 --> 01:06:58,060
It's not good in a mixed company for

1445
01:06:58,060 --> 01:07:00,220
a brother to get up and testify about

1446
01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:04,800
victory over masturbation or fornication.

1447
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,680
I've been amazed some testimonies in India how

1448
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,920
people are so blunt about their sexual life.

1449
01:07:12,220 --> 01:07:13,800
It's not the normal thing but a few

1450
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,980
people seem to get into that.

1451
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:21,220
It can be a great embarrassment and it

1452
01:07:21,220 --> 01:07:22,440
causes confusion.

1453
01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:27,480
Public sin perhaps at times needs public confession

1454
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,140
not always.

1455
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,140
Private sin just generally private confession is enough.

1456
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:36,080
We are not Roman Catholics who do not

1457
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,540
have freedom until we've gone to mother confessor.

1458
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:44,260
The team leader is not the father confessor.

1459
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:48,680
His total forgiveness through going through Jesus Christ

1460
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:54,620
alone even restitution which is emphasized and which

1461
01:07:54,620 --> 01:07:57,120
was part of that revival in Canada easily

1462
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,240
becomes extreme.

1463
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,640
People trying to repay somebody that they stole

1464
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,120
candy off sweets off twenty years ago they're

1465
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,840
going through the streets of that town trying

1466
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,560
to figure out what sweet shop it is

1467
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,420
and going in the shop has already changed

1468
01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:15,040
management the new man is there and this

1469
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,720
man comes in I stole some chocolate from

1470
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,700
your shop twenty years ago I want to

1471
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:21,319
return it.

1472
01:08:21,859 --> 01:08:23,700
I mean the Lord may need some people

1473
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:28,160
to do that kind of thing but it's

1474
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,700
so easy to get into bondage.

1475
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,580
OM for some can be operation bondage all

1476
01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:37,880
these different rules all these different things we're

1477
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:38,640
supposed to do.

1478
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:40,240
Get up early get up early in the

1479
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,960
morning don't eat too much don't have too

1480
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,700
much tea don't spend too much money don't

1481
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,740
you know the list is endless endless and

1482
01:08:50,740 --> 01:08:52,439
if you get one of these heavy handed

1483
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,260
leaders who is trying to make out the

1484
01:08:56,260 --> 01:08:59,500
right report about each leader it really is

1485
01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:00,800
operation bondage.

1486
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,640
We know for other people OM can be

1487
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,939
a picnic for some team leaders you can

1488
01:09:07,939 --> 01:09:08,779
get away with murder.

1489
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:11,160
You have cases where the team leader doesn't

1490
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,520
have a clue what's going on.

1491
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,520
Little Johnny and Little Joe they like to

1492
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,279
sleep together they like to go down the

1493
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,439
streets holding hands it's all part of the

1494
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:21,840
culture.

1495
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:28,720
Look you're naive you're very naive because homosexuality

1496
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,359
is everywhere in this country it's everywhere.

1497
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,160
We know some people who go down the

1498
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,500
street holding hands it's absolutely innocent it's an

1499
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:40,640
Indian custom in some places but other people

1500
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,080
especially when they're not only holding hands or

1501
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,000
holding legs and they're sleeping together and then

1502
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,439
you find them on top of each other

1503
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,740
they are not playing some kind of new

1504
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:51,700
gospel game that they learn.

1505
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,500
They are engaging in that which is clearly

1506
01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:56,040
condemned in the scriptures.

1507
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,600
And I will tell you it will not

1508
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,680
take long to turn OM into a movement

1509
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,400
whose reputation will not be worth an American

1510
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,540
quarter in a Russian slot machine.

1511
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:13,220
We must avoid all appearance of evil.

1512
01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:18,020
And I think that because we are international

1513
01:10:18,020 --> 01:10:23,500
and cross cultural we have westerners here because

1514
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:25,620
we have westerners we have to try to

1515
01:10:25,620 --> 01:10:28,620
understand Indians some of their thinking and what

1516
01:10:28,620 --> 01:10:30,740
can just completely blow their minds.

1517
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:33,480
They in turn must submit even more they

1518
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:36,460
must submit even more to your thinking.

1519
01:10:36,820 --> 01:10:39,140
But we agreed years ago in this work

1520
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:41,320
we would avoid appearance of evil.

1521
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,260
We would not have brothers sleeping together in

1522
01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:45,440
the same sleeping bag.

1523
01:10:46,580 --> 01:10:48,780
We will trust God for the money and

1524
01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:50,480
we will not have the sisters sleeping together

1525
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,600
in the same sleeping bag because homosexuality among

1526
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,840
women is as rampant as among men.

1527
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,440
And OM has had this.

1528
01:10:58,540 --> 01:11:00,480
We have had it definitely had it.

1529
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,260
We had to remove one westerner.

1530
01:11:02,540 --> 01:11:04,660
Some of the ugliest situations we had in

1531
01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:07,740
India were with homosexual westerners who had a

1532
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:09,540
real infatuation with Indians.

1533
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,840
One after he left OM India was living

1534
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,300
with men in different parts of the country

1535
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:17,820
after he also stole money and when he

1536
01:11:17,820 --> 01:11:19,220
got to India he was imprisoned.

1537
01:11:21,620 --> 01:11:24,220
Now praise God we haven't had much and

1538
01:11:24,220 --> 01:11:26,360
so this kind of thing I probably wouldn't

1539
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,560
say that much if this were an all

1540
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,380
India conference.

1541
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,800
But you're leaners.

1542
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:32,900
You've got to have a little sabe.

1543
01:11:33,340 --> 01:11:36,460
A little entendamiento decimos en espanol.

1544
01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:42,080
And no one is putting you into any

1545
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,020
kind of guilt trip about anything that's happened

1546
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:45,620
in the past.

1547
01:11:45,860 --> 01:11:47,000
We believe the best.

1548
01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:48,300
We believe the best.

1549
01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:52,040
We're not judging but for the future where

1550
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,740
this works so under the attack of Satan

1551
01:11:57,060 --> 01:12:00,720
and that fire in Bombay will create far

1552
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,380
less problems than one of our leaners getting

1553
01:12:04,380 --> 01:12:07,460
accused of immorality and a great mass of

1554
01:12:07,460 --> 01:12:08,160
people believing.

1555
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,740
It'll spread like wildfire right across the country.

1556
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,460
Billy Graham a man of God and many

1557
01:12:15,460 --> 01:12:18,500
many following his steps he avoids appearance of

1558
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:18,740
evil.

1559
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:21,000
He won't go anywhere alone with another woman.

1560
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:24,580
He has his wife with him.

1561
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,700
One of the reasons I like to take

1562
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:28,480
my wife everywhere I go.

1563
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,780
My wife is now with me 90%

1564
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:31,360
of my journey.

1565
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:33,280
This is the exception this year.

1566
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,000
Is it just helps in terms of the

1567
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:36,360
image.

1568
01:12:37,220 --> 01:12:38,800
People see my wife with me.

1569
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,540
People know I love my wife.

1570
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:42,960
I have a good marriage.

1571
01:12:43,540 --> 01:12:45,000
I have a happy life.

1572
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,780
And then when one of my secretaries is

1573
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:51,980
with me my wife is with me as

1574
01:12:51,980 --> 01:12:52,260
well.

1575
01:12:53,780 --> 01:12:57,480
The enemy has a roaring lion seeking whom

1576
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:58,740
he may devour.

1577
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,920
We need to be very wise in this

1578
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:03,580
area.

1579
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,320
And we need to lovingly tenderly counsel people

1580
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,780
and teach them how to live in a

1581
01:13:12,780 --> 01:13:22,100
cross-cultural interaction with each other.

1582
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,700
We need to be very wise in this

1583
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:32,140
area.

1584
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:35,480
we need to lovingly and teach them how

1585
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:44,320
to cross-cultural interaction with We need to

1586
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:53,900
lovingly and tenderly teach to in a cross

1587
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:55,680
-cultural interaction other.

1588
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:06,260
We need to lovingly and tenderly counsel people

1589
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:11,180
and teach them how to live in a

1590
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:21,680
cross-cultural interaction We

1591
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:21,780
need

1592
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:38,140
to

1593
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:44,080
lovingly tenderly in a cross-cultural interaction other.

1594
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:57,340
We need to lovingly

1595
01:14:57,340 --> 01:15:02,180
and tenderly people and teach them how to

1596
01:15:02,180 --> 01:15:15,410
in a We need to people and teach

1597
01:15:17,170 --> 01:15:36,550
to We need to lovingly

1598
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:41,490
and tenderly counsel people and teach them how

1599
01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:44,110
to live in a cross-cultural interaction other.

1600
01:15:47,170 --> 01:15:51,530
We need to lovingly live in a cross

1601
01:15:51,530 --> 01:15:53,450
-cultural We need to lovingly and tenderly counsel

1602
01:15:53,450 --> 01:15:54,190
people and