In the book of Romans, you probably wondered
when we're going to get around to that
one, Romans chapter 8, 31 to the end
of the chapter.
What shall we then say to these things?
If God be for us, who can be
against us?
He spared not His own Son, but delivered
Him up for us all.
How shall He not with Him also freely
give us all things?
Who shall lay anything to the charge of
God's elect?
It is God that justifieth.
Who is He that condemneth?
It is Christ that died, yea, rather, that
is risen again, who is even at the
right hand of God, who also maketh intercession
for us.
Who shall separate us from the love of
Christ?
Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecutions, or famine,
or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Those things won't separate us from the love
of Christ, but our response to them can.
Right?
The way we respond to these things can
separate me from the love of Christ.
As it is written, for thy sake we
are killed all the day long.
We are counted as sheep for the slaughter
day.
In all these things we are more than
conquerors to Him that loved us.
Often I have a counselee read that and
I say, what does it mean to be
more than a conqueror?
Think about it.
All he had to say is, we are
conquerors.
What's more than a conqueror?
Well, it's the same thing as exceedingly abundantly
above all.
It's the same thing as more grace, isn't
it?
It's just one of those there.
God is just saying it.
It goes on, and on, and on, and
on, and on.
You can't put a period there.
For I am persuaded that neither death nor
life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor
things present, nor things come.
You know, that's referring to the spirit world.
Nor height, nor depth, or any creature shall
be able to separate us from the love
of God, which is in Christ Jesus our
Lord.
You know, I said something that really wasn't
biblically accurate.
I want to change what I said.
I thought about it.
How to respond to these things really can't
separate us from the love of God, in
a sense, because I know that if I
turn my back on God and walk away
from Him, He says, Jim, I'll love your
back if you won't let me love your
face.
But my awareness of God's love can be
removed from me when I refuse to receive
His grace to respond positively to the struggles
of life.
And many people do not sense God's love
because of how they responded to the trials
of life.
I was asked to mention something, and I
forgot about it.
And then I was given this newspaper on
Halloween on the way in, and I was
glad because someone asked me just to mention
Halloween a little bit.
I think it was three years ago, I
was to speak at Tennessee Temple University, and
I drove into Chattanooga, Tennessee.
When I got there, there was a young
man who had on campus there, a missionary
son who had tremendous demonic problems.
They were all unnerved.
It was Halloween.
In fact, I think the very day I
got there was Halloween.
They had burned satanic symbols on the lawn
of one of the boys' dorms there, and
there was a rumor that some of the
young men, or at least one of the
young men from the university was going to
be offered as a sacrifice that night.
Now, the reason that that was so frightening
was because Anton LaVey was holding a special
service in Chattanooga Halloween night on, I'm going
to say Suicide Mountain, that's the wrong, that's
in the movie.
What's the mountain called?
Lookout Mountain.
There's a cemetery up there with people that
have been dead and buried there for over
a hundred years.
So Anton LaVey and Satanists from all over
America gathered in Chattanooga on Halloween evening to
celebrate one of the most important days that
they have.
In fact, it's more than one day, if
you know satanic days.
They have a number of days that are
special to them during that time.
And it just seems unusual to me, and
every person needs to decide what your family
will do or not do.
Isn't that right?
And we don't need to look.
If someone has a different idea than I
have, Paul says, be careful that you don't
look down on someone that doesn't look or
think about something as you think about it.
But what I am wondering, it seems kind
of strange, one of the most holy days
for a Satanist that Christians get really involved
in it, in the same way that they're
involved in it.
And someone asked about giving just tracts to
kids when they come to your house.
I think I would be very upset if
I was an unsaved kid and all you
gave me was a story.
Right?
But CEF has one of the most wonderful
tracts I've ever seen on spiritual warfare.
And it shows a little boy, full color,
the guy that did the first computerized chart
ever done at CEF, was the one in
your notebook.
The guy that did that wrote a chart.
It's excellent.
I mean, wrote a tract.
It's excellent.
It's full color, CEF.
And it's a boy in full armor fighting
a dragon, breathing out fire on him.
And it says, you have an enemy.
And the whole tract is the enemy of
the soul of children and how he works
through drugs and violence on television and so
on and so forth.
And then how they might know the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Excellent tract to give out on Halloween.
In fact, it was going to be a
Halloween tract.
And I said, don't limit to Halloween.
Take Halloween off that tract.
Every child needs to know that Jesus Christ
is the victor.
Not only the Savior, but he's the victor.
And he can save them from violence and
all of this type of stuff.
But getting around, what should you do?
And I just encourage this couple.
And there are books.
I don't know.
I think it's Dobson or somebody right now
is offering a book called Halloween.
I've read the book.
And this fellow has gone in great detail
to tell you what is the significance of
Halloween.
What is it?
Why is it?
A missionary friend of ours, husband, who was
a radio technician, put a ladder up and
didn't realize that as he put the ladder
up and grabbed a hold of it, he
put it on high-tension wires and he
was killed.
And on Halloween night, those Rubens pleaded with
her to come into their home and not
to be alone because that's the night the
souls of the dead walked the streets.
And they were afraid for her to be
alone, for the souls of the dead, her
dead husband would come back and torment her
in the house.
It just doesn't seem, you know what I'm
saying?
There's something about it.
If you put a mask on and went
ringing a doorbell in Aruba and said surprise,
you'd probably be shot if they would open
the door on that night.
And so I suggested we used to have
creative alternatives for the kids.
And we'd have a party that was so
excellent with a number of families putting it
on and giving the kids candy that the
kids from the school, and we had a
no-costume party because we didn't want people
showing up as vampires and all this stuff
at our church party, that the kids from
the school would beg their parents, please, I
don't want a costume, I don't want to
go trick-or-treating, I want to go
to that party.
And we'd have unsaved kids come and we'd
show an excellent children's film and children would
get saved on the night of Halloween.
And we played the most fun games.
It was a super evening.
Now you don't have much time, but maybe
some of your parents here would like to
have a creative alternative than taking the kids
into town and going.
But get that book, read about it, and
the more you read about this you go,
boy, that's one day that I don't want
special like an unbeliever makes it special.
We're going to talk tonight about how to
help somebody that is obviously losing in warfare.
We've been talking about having victory, victory over
the enemy, and so on.
An interesting study we said was Ephesians chapter
4.
We talked about this today and I want
to get another verse, have you look at
another verse.
But in Ephesians chapter 4 he talks about
anger and he says don't give place to
the devil.
It can be translated don't give Satan a
beachhead in your life.
It doesn't say on your life, it's in
your life.
Don't give Satan a foothold in your life.
It can be translated quite differently.
Look it up, study it, but it's a
very interesting verse.
It's a warning to Christians.
Don't give Satan an advantage in your life.
Look at 1 John 5.18. It
says, and we know whosoever is born of
God sinneth not, but he that is begotten
of God keepeth himself, and the wicked one
touches him not.
The word sinneth not in the Greek, and
if you didn't write it down, get it
down this time because this is a very
important verse as we're going into helping someone
tonight.
Sinneth not literally means does not habitually practice
sin.
And we know believers do not habitually practice
sin.
I don't know, I was going to write
this down, I haven't taught this in so
long, bear with me if I miss it.
But we call it steps to bondage.
And I'm going to try and go down
the steps if I can because this is
the warning here.
A believer is walking along in his life
and a flaming missile of the enemy comes
to him with a temptation.
If he receives that, he will sin, commit
an act, and he goes down one step.
If you can go down the steps, if
you can see, he's down one step.
If he confesses that sin, he moves back
up and walks again on the same level
he was on.
But if he's down on this level, he
committed an act, then the enemy may attack
him again in that very same area.
And he begins now to practice that act
and he drops down on a lower level.
At this level he's beginning now, which was
once just a single act, is now becoming
part of a major struggle in his life,
so he's now down lower.
If he confesses his sin, what will happen?
He'll get back up.
There's one step in here I know I'm
going to miss.
I've already missed it, I think.
He's practicing the act, but you get the
picture.
If he keeps practicing, he'll drop down on
another step and on this step he begins
to form habit patterns of sin.
This is no longer something he's practicing.
It's literally becoming a way of life, a
habit pattern of sin.
And on this level, at some point in
time, he will drop down on the bottom
line, and the bottom line is bondage.
And often the person in bondage needs someone
to come alongside to help them to break
that bondage.
When they break the bondage, do they go
back up here on the top level again?
No.
Where do they go back to?
Habit patterns.
And those have to be broken.
Strongholds, ruts in their life.
They need ongoing counseling.
But the bondage needs to be broken so
they can begin to work themselves how?
Back up the ladder so they can walk
in the freedom.
Jesus Christ said he came that we might
be what?
Free.
And if you're not free, then you're not
having all that the Lord Jesus wants for
you.
He wants you free tonight.
I didn't say perfect.
It's free.
Free on the inside.
And it's so thrilling to sit with somebody
who has been in bondage for maybe 25
years and have almost given up hope that
they could ever be free of something and
take them through these steps and pray with
them and see them come to freedom.
It's just amazing.
The next thing he says here, but he
that is begotten of God keepeth himself.
The word keepeth himself is the same word
that he that keepeth the city, and it
means guards the city.
You know, in the Old Testament it talks
about that, guards himself.
The third one is the one we'll look
at again, is toucheth him not.
And that word touches literally means to grab
a hold of.
Now let's look at this, because this is
a warning to believers.
He says, the believer does not habitually practice
sin, he doesn't go down the steps, but
he guards himself.
But instead he guards himself so that Satan
does not grasp a hold of him.
And if someone feels the enemy has a
grasp of him, how do we unloose that
grasp?
That's what we're talking about.
How can we help someone to be free
of the grasp of the enemy in their
life?
And they need to be free.
And you've got the papers, if you have
them it would be really good if you
could pull them out because we can look
at them.
I want to walk you through and why
the order is there and why we're doing
what we're doing.
And I'll just, as if you were in
my office, basically, and we were going to
take you through these steps, and once you
just kind of walk through them with us
this way, you will not have any problem
of sitting down and taking someone else.
Just keep this and you'd be amazed that
someday someone's going to come and you're going
to be able to sit down with them
and be able to take them through the
steps that they too might have freedom.
The first thing that you want to do
is to confirm their salvation experience.
As we're dealing with the individual, are they
truly born again believers?
I shared with you the gal in Africa
and I had been dealing with so many
Africans and they asked me to see this
secretary of child evangelism fellowship of Ghana's sister
who had a curse put on her.
She was the first wife of this African
leader and she was from another tribe and
he married nine other women within the tribe.
The nine women got together and put a
curse on this wife and all her children.
They mistreated her so badly.
She was having just close to having a
total breakdown from the curse and everything else
going on and she asked me to break
the curse and to free her from the
demonic spirits that she knew was attacking her
and I said, I cannot.
The lady just was horrified that I would
not do it and I said, but you're
not a believer and if the spirits did
leave how do you plan to keep them
away?
The only protection I know of is the
Lord Jesus Christ.
When I'm asked to go to speak in
small groups of non-Christian teenagers or in
some of the high schools they want us
to come because and it's amazing the high
schools seem to have more satanic stuff going
on than some of the high schools in
the city and we're asked to go and
speak to these schools I said, you realize
I'm a Christian and do you realize that
the only way out is Jesus Christ and
I will have to share that and they
said, listen, these kids are so messed up
share whatever you want but these kids need
to be warned and it's thrilling the freedom
that we're getting to share but we have
to realize that their commitment to Jesus Christ
is extremely important to settle before you get
involved.
The second thing that we try to find
out in the early beginnings before we get
in and we do that through a check
sheet if you are going to be involved
in this kind of counseling I don't have
a check sheet with me there are three
of them there is a check sheet in
the bondage breaker which Neal Anderson uses at
Talbot Seminary that was really an accident sorry
Freud but his is a little more detailed
now the psychologist in our office loves his
and I like Dickinson's better and that's the
one I use if you were going to
go to Moody to see Fred Dickinson I
use his check sheet and we also have
another check sheet that we use and one
day when I get some free time I'm
going to write my own check sheet because
there are things I'd like to know but
what is not bad is if you have
some concept of what's the problems here before
you get into it what are we dealing
with what ground has been given how has
the enemy gotten a foothold in this life
what is he holding on to what is
the beachhead here so as we go through
we want to be sure that that area
is specifically covered to help that person so
if you can sometimes by asking questions ask
a person how are they hurting sometimes I'll
ask a child a question in child evangelism
fellowship you cannot present the gospel to a
child without including the blood of Christ you
know that you're trained to put the blood
of Christ because without the shedding of blood
there's what no remission so you must include
that in the message to a child then
when the children raise their hands or whatever
you have them do to respond to the
message and you have them come to the
teacher you say you want to accept Jesus
don't you they don't do that they say
what do you want the Lord Jesus Christ
to do for you and let the child
say why he came well my son has
been a summer missionary and has led hundreds
of children to Christ while he was a
teenager growing up and he was in a
meeting a little boy raised his hand he
came forward and my son was excited and
he bent down and he said what would
you like Jesus to do for you and
he said let me go to the bathroom
now we can't assume don't assume you know
what's going on here the third area are
strongholds what mental patterns of thought may be
strongholds and barriers that are put up to
you helping them to get to freedom what
are they these kinds that have been established
over a long period of time the next
area and these are just some beginning things
that you need to find out before you
deal with somebody and this is probably the
most difficult thing to find out but one
of the most important things do they really
want help do they really want help this
is one area in helping somebody that they
can't fool around with you know what I'm
saying they have to be serious really serious
or like I told that girl you know
you could end up worse and you're already
bad enough you don't need to be worse
than what you are the problem is already
severe enough it doesn't need to get worse
and if you're not really sincere and you
have to do that with high school kids
a lot of high school kids don't like
what's happening but they don't want to make
the commitments that they need to make to
really be free and to walk in freedom
they just want you to remove you know
the consequences but they're not really wanting to
change lifestyle and then the next thing we
do before we start is we bind the
enemy from any open manifestations which is just
the opposite of what most people do in
deliverance we have a prayer if you're interested
I mean if you're really interested in getting
in we pray specific about 7 or 8
specific things as we receive God's protection the
removal of any forces of darkness from that
room we pray that there can be no
communications between that which may be bothering that
individual and the forces outside any schemes or
plans that they have raised up to hold
this person in bondage would be smashed and
broken that the enemy and usually when a
person is coming there's more than one demonic
situation in their life Mary Magdalene had 7
demonic spirits in her the Gadarene had between
6 and 10,000 spirits in him but
there was a difference between the acted two,
right?
there was a difference between Mary Magdalene and
the Gadarene but when someone knows that are
pretty sure that they've got this kind of
a problem you can rest assure there's more
than one spirit involved in the problem as
they become aware something is not right in
my life and we bind those spirits and
then what we used to do is then
force a spirit into manifestation and to speak
through the mouth of the individual and then
command him to tell us what his assignment
was, what are you doing in that life
and letting him speak out then trying to
figure out what the ground was by asking
the enemy then going back to the individual
that he might confess the ground that gave
the beachhead where it says in Ephesians don't
do this where 1 John says don't let
the enemy grab a hold of you how
did he get a hold of you?
you're going to have to confess that and
then command the spirit to leave now that's
the way I was taught at Moody that's
the way you'd be taught at Trinity that's
the way you'd be taught at Columbia Bible
College under Dr. Phil Stain did I tell
you about the missionary that called me?
I talked to some of them missionary called
me crying on the phone about his wife
they were ministering, I want to tell you
what country because you guys work in that
country ministering in this country and she was
having an affair with a street person inviting
this man off the street to come in
and have sex with her she was sharing
it she was sharing it around with the
other missionary wives some of you missionaries know
this couple and know the wives the wives
said in a meeting I can't believe you'd
have an affair with a street man when
I have my affair it won't be with
a street man she came home, the husband
knew nothing about it she called him told
him that she was having an affair with
this fellow, he went and talked to this
fellow he put a gun, was going to
shoot the missionary the street fellow that she
was having sex with they came back his
wife who has 4 or 5 children is
flirting with all the high school boys and
he realizes his wife has serious troubles and
is under the control of forces of darkness
he sat in Phil Staines class when Phil
Staines said Christians could have demonic problems he
laughed at him he's a Columbia Bible College
graduate and he said we don't have the
money to fly to Sioux City, who could
we see and I said Phil Staines and
the phone went blank he said I laughed
at that man I said he could set
your wife free he said oh was I
a fool he said Mr. Logan, there is
no way when you see my wife, there
is something that's taken her over and they
went to the school praise the Lord but
school after school basically would teach you just
basically in essence that way the danger of
that way and what's difficult about that way
is when you call the spirits up you
are allowing them to take over that body
and it can get very, very violent some
of you here have seen that it's very
violent we're not talking about nationals somewhere where
you would have a power encounter in Africa
if anybody would have fallen down in a
meeting or would have had that thing immediately
I would have dealt with it I would
have commanded the spirits to go in the
authority of Christ and so on we're talking
now about a counseling situation not someone in
a service or even an unbeliever sometimes you
must cast the spirits out and the people
see the power of Christ they go in
awe because before nothing could happen but what
we do now is the reverse of that
and that's why we pray and we forbid
any kind of a manifestation at all except
for teenagers and the reason that I personally
call spirits up in teenagers and little children
little children are real easy they are so
easy it isn't funny they haven't done anything
it's usually ancestral spirits or their father has
done something you know like the guy that
went into the occult and that girl, if
they got her as a little girl it
would have been taken care of but we
were dealing with one boy his mother was
a lesbian she decided that she wanted a
baby and so she asked some fellow to
impregnate her and he did and he went
off to prison and this baby was born
and she was living in that lifestyle in
front of her son and she realized it
was causing him struggles and then she got
saved she was having all kinds of problems
but she was trying to raise her son
she knew she was struggling and they asked
us to help her and so we were
dealing with the wife and the pastor of
the church was there they were violent very
wicked and so on and she had a
murderous spirit that was constantly influencing her to
kill her son every time she got angry
it would influence her to go over anger
and she would rage to the point that
she would have to pull herself back so
she wouldn't kill her son so her son
is 9 years old and she said please
see him I see so much of myself
in him I am sure he's got to
have something like this going on so my
wife and I had the 9 year old
son come over and when we prayed with
him and commanded the spirit up the first
one up was perversion in this 9 year
old boy and we commanded to leave and
he said zip I said what zip?
he said well zip it went and then
we called up another spirit and guess what
it was?
murder and guess what it was telling him
to do?
murder his mother can you imagine a mother
and son living together with demonic spirits one
telling the mother to kill the son and
the son to kill his mother and when
she tried to tell us about the arguments
and the fights and the things going on
I couldn't believe it but when I heard
it I said it's no wonder that home
was a mess with that kind of influence
what's going on with these two people but
because I kept struggling with this I can't
tell you I hated this method but it
was the only method I knew and we
saw people getting free but I would go
into these sessions and I prayed I didn't
know if the person was going to hit
the floor I didn't know if the person
was going to start you know screaming and
try to attack me and it was horrible
but it's all I knew and we kept
praying and finally I kept thinking why don't
we go the opposite way why don't we
ask the demons what ground it is why
don't we ask the individual what ground they've
given and why don't we take back the
ground and then pray against the enemy because
he's got all this stuff he's doing because
of what the person's doing all the rights
this person has given they've given the ground
and the enemy's camping on it let's take
back the ground and then pray against it
and you'll find that you can sit there
and it's a marvelous tremendous freedom so let's
go through the procedures that we follow and
it's just a really counseling procedure the first
step that we want the person to do
and if you don't have a check sheet
you can ask have you ever been involved
in the occult have you ever been involved
in spiritism in games or anything like that
if it's a teenager you know we often
ask a teenager that's having terrible problems and
you'd be amazed at the missionary's kids that
will say yes they've done this have you
ever prayed to satan the kids prayed to
god and he withheld it so they prayed
to satan thinking maybe he'd give it to
them and whenever satan answers your prayer you're
in trouble I look at the kids I
said you know something there isn't a free
lunch satan never does something for nothing you'll
pay a terrible price and many of these
kids are having terrible problems they begin to
pray to satan because they want a certain
boyfriend or they wanted this or they wanted
that and they begin to do this kind
of thing and they renounce it simply and
you have it in your first paragraph there
I renounce you satan all your works and
all your ways is that biblical it's based
on romans they put the doctrinal statement on
top where it says finding freedom in christ
second paragraph down that's where you start that
is based on the book of revelation chapter
10 where it says they overcame him how?
by the blood of the lamb and what
was the other thing?
the word of their testimony what they're doing
here is they're making a stand I want
no darkness in my life I am throwing
off the works of darkness I want nothing
to do with the enemy I am taking
my stand totally completely with the lord Jesus
Christ and I don't want anything of the
enemy in my life in any way influence
me in any way at all, it's their
stand a missionary couple went to Alaska working
with the Indians it's interesting, it's an interesting
mission they're having success with Indians as no
other mission is having success anywhere with Indians
in our hemisphere now I say hemisphere but
in America or Canada outstanding and the people
are sticking the men are all becoming alcoholics
the church has male leadership in it and
it's just exciting to see what they're doing
but they're doing warfare as they're sharing the
gospel and standing against but this couple was
out in this village, isolated and in the
winter time if you've ever been in the
north when it gets below zero you can
hear a twig drop a hundred miles away
it is that cold air and it's so
crisp you can hear anything and every night
around their little cabin someone would walk crunch,
crunch, with snowshoes around their cabin the next
day they'd look out and guess what no
footprints night after night and it was, you
imagine what happened to the wife you know
what it'd do to a wife ah, the
husband, ah, the wife every night something's walking
around this cabin and no footprints let me
tell you another one this is a good
one, I just thought it was kind of
funny this is funny and so finally they
had an opportunity with the weather to get
into town and they called the fellow who's
over the mission and they said something strange
is happening every night, after it's dark someone
walks around our cabin and leaves no footprints
with snowshoes and we're just, it's just getting
to us and they said please tell us
how long will this go on and he
said as long as you let it pray
against it they did and guess what happened
it was gone I gotta tell you my
story, I'm laughing I gotta laugh at my
story I'm a typical husband, I was in
bible college we lived in a little teeny
house it had a living room a bedroom,
a bathroom, a little kitchen and it was
zipped outside and I was dead tired I
had a baby in a little bed, a
little child in the middle of the night
my wife wakes me up, wake up Jim,
wake up there's some men around our house
all around it, wake up, wake up someone's
outside good, you know he's outside, you know,
wake me up when he's inside you know
snore if you love me if you really
love me you'll get up and check I
just know there's somebody walking around the house
you know, whatever time it was in the
middle of the night my grandmother had lived
in that little house and we hooked up
a little button that you could push by
the bed and it rang our doorbell the
house in front so they could come back
when she was not feeling well and tend
to her so I'm dead tired, you know,
I'm working my way through college Bible school
I get up in that little bedroom you
know, you're looking for somebody and I'm listening
and I walk out in the living room
nothing and I walk into the kitchen and
the shade goes up my wife thinks they
got me and so she's screaming in the
bedroom he's got her in the bedroom she's
pushing the button my mother hears a screaming
and she's sure the house is on fire
my mother flies out in her nightgown our
baby falls on the floor and is crying
I had to share that with you that
walking around oh my how'd you guys like
to stay with us?
the first major area here that we need
to deal with and that's deception and I
pray there's a prayer here, these prayers are
not magic but if you look at them
they're all based on the word of God
all these prayers have been set before the
theology professors at Talbot Seminary to see is
there anything theologically incorrect in any prayer or
in the doctrinal affirmation and they gave it
their stamp not that they would agree necessarily
every professor, but there is nothing doctrinally wrong
with these prayers from the standpoint of Biola
or Talbot Seminary from their perspective on doctrine
but I always pray I have the person
pray and you can read through the prayer
how that they know that God wants truth
in the inner man and I will pray,
oh God, give me a hearing heart I
don't want to be deceived my brother or
sister does not want to be deceived don't
let us be deceived in this process, but
may we fully understand the full dimension of
the problem they're having, that they might come
to full freedom in Christ and you read
that prayer, it's an excellent prayer the next
thing that we do is the personal affirmation
page to find out their thoughts on certain
things that can be so deceptive I asked
a youth pastor when I say God the
Father, what do you think of?
and he told me it was wonderful when
I think of God the Father basically I
think of someone who is far off aloof
and very unapproachable now I know that's wrong
but I'm being honest with you if you
were asking me that's the way I would
kind of share and you would say I
bet what kind of home he grew up
in and that kind of tells about my
relationship with my father I hated my father
I tried to kill myself at 16 I
failed at that which only showed that what
he said was true that I was really
a failure I couldn't even kill myself and
then I began to hope that I was
adopted I was much taller than my father
I must be adopted and someday I'll find
the papers and with that I was able
to flunk through high school and then God
the Son I have warm feelings towards God
the Son God the Holy Spirit not quite,
but you ask the person we came to
the youth pastor and he said about God
the Father I said, man I wish I
thought those thoughts I mean I was thrilled
it just warmed me that this fellow just
sharing what he thought of God the Father
and then I said what do you think
of God the Son and the youth pastor
said I'd rather not talk about him and
guess what I knew right then and there
guess who I was talking to not a
youth pastor not of an IFCA Bible church
youth pastor like the youth pastor in town
that's been here same kind of church can
you imagine him saying the youth pastor at
Waxhaw at the Bible church here saying I'd
rather not talk about Jesus Christ just that
simple, just that plain and then about two
minutes later he tried to kill me the
second one beliefs and feelings towards self do
they have a proper concept of who they
are in Christ are their memories or experience
so painful that it's difficult to talk about
them sexual abuse number one ritual sexual abuse
almost always is there a lot of ritual
sexual abuse absolutely every Thursday night for a
satanic meeting some things must take place or
they cannot have the meeting this is every
Thursday night they have to have a holocaust
that has set a fire of some sort
an abandoned building that they must burn something
down or a blood sacrifice human or animal
third a rape of a virgin must take
place every Thursday night when every coven meets
around the United States then on the full
moons then on the special days but every
Thursday night one of those things must happen
and often the rape is of teeny tiny
children it's unbelievable and I won't tell you
about it Jerry is going to tell the
kids but it's terrible what happens to children
and as these children grow up you know
what they do they put it out of
their mind we had a counselee that went
through that and when the counselee came for
counseling they carried in a gun for the
purpose of killing all of us in the
office and we all died no there was
a protector there that never allowed them to
pull it out and we never knew about
the gun until they were through with their
counseling session and then we saw the gun
they said we had a gun that we
brought here and then showed it to us
I'm glad we saw it afterwards by the
way don't tell our girl at the desk
that this happens because she's too good to
lose but she sees some things going on
in our waiting room that's unbelievable we had
a lady she's a neat lady sent from
Canada and they stay at the Best Western
and they drive our counselees free from the
Best Western to our counseling center and this
is funny you may not think it's funny
but it is funny it was Halloween everything
happened the last year Halloween and this lady
was in the van and she and her
husband were sitting behind the driver and he
drove over the hill coming down to where
our office is to turn into and he
said well down this road is Satan's Gulch
or something and when he said this this
woman went stiff like a board and started
howling and carrying on here's this driver this
lady she'd go like a board she could
just lift her up straight and her husband's
saying in the name of Jesus this guy's
going oh brother Halloween what is going on
in this van so they say all the
time people come and say what do they
do at this place people are coming from
all over the United States and other parts
of the world what do they do there
that's the only time it's ever happened in
that van but sometimes it happens in our
waiting room and our poor secretary just gets
so nervous and you should pray for her
because we can't afford to lose her but
we try to pray oh lord don't let
anything happen in the waiting room either because
poor Carolyn doesn't like to see that and
if I walk out the door before the
council lead does she's asked me please don't
leave me alone with them so I don't
but these satanic things are going on more
and more and more and more and more
children are being exposed to it ministers son
ministers are involved in good churches they are
now when they deliver babies we just got
this, this is not off the wall stuff,
this is documented information and I'm for midwifery
but some of the midwives now when the
baby drops grabs it and imparts a spirit
guide to that baby before she gives it
to the mother and you know some of
the churches have found that some of the
people they're hiring to be in the nursery
while the church service are going on are
satanists that are imparting spirit guides to children
what's really difficult if you know sylvan mind
control that organization is very very desperate, we've
had many many missionaries that were messed up
in that and usually they give you spirit
guides if you know anything about the group,
they give you two spirit guides before you
graduate and those spirit guides will guide you
the rest of your life and they enter
the room that you've built inside of you
you know how Lindsay his sister-in-law
Johanna Mickelson wrote her book the beautiful side
of evil and she became demonized after she
was saved at the university then through her
demonization she got involved in sylvan mind control
she was imparted to demons and she went
to Mexico and was doing psychic surgeries under
a lady that was heavily demonized and the
only way she could get free when she
began to realize that this white magic was
really black magic was she went to labrie
and Francis Schaeffer's organization recognized the demonic and
was able to set Johanna Mickelson free and
her book is the beautiful side of evil
but I can't tell you I remember a
missionary we had it was a real struggle
and guess who one of her guides was
Jesus Christ and I can't tell you the
number of people that we have had that
set free that have gone to the sylvan
mind control that they have been placed in
them a spirit by the name of Jesus
Christ can you imagine how confusing that could
be having Jesus Christ speaking to you or
a spirit calling himself Jesus Christ and the
confusion and all of that that's going on
it's really terrible well that's why you want
to know were they in sylvan mind control
were they in these things so that the
confusion will be stopped before you get into
this a lot of fantasizing if there's somebody
else and so on this doctrinal affirmation I
love this we don't have time to read
it because I want to go through the
principle of the roaring lion as the last
thing we do but the doctrinal affirmation and
I love reading this and it's just who
I am in Christ we gave this to
a minister of a very conservative church who
came and he said I know I have
demonic spirits he said I recognize that there
is he got that far remember we prayed
no demonic manifestations and he was being choked
by invisible hands and he couldn't even read
this and I had to pray that the
enemy would let loose of this man's throat
so he could read who he was in
Jesus Christ and he was choked 5 or
6 times before he read this page and
this page that was about 2 or 3
weeks ago in fact as people are reading
this we say if you have any thoughts
tell us what you're thinking and they'll get
thoughts you'll never be free you'll always be
like this you belong to us here they're
reading Jesus Christ is my victor and they're
getting this thought you belong to us you'll
never be free and you say wait a
minute is that true no see when they
speak it out loud it's a tremendous thing
to speak it out loud because when I
hear lies and I say it out loud
I realize I don't believe that but if
I don't speak it out loud it just
kind of runs around my head we say
just tell us do you really want to
hear I don't want to hear swearing I
don't want to hear that kind of stuff
don't tell me that stuff don't tell me
the filthy stuff just say well they're cursing
right now there's all kinds of cursing in
my mind and they're using the Lord's name
in vain the next page is a very
important page that is bitterness versus forgiveness we
have found the major cause of a Christian
having demonic struggles is bitterness a bitter spirit
you say well how can that be if
the person is very bitter I do a
study on bitterness in Hebrews Romans 8 vengeance
is mine say the Lord so on Ephesians
chapter 4 verse 32 in that area and
then Matthew 18 you know what it says
in Matthew 18 you know the story in
Matthew 18 the man in Matthew 18 came
to a man he owed a lot of
money to and the man said where's my
money he said I don't have it he
said alright I said would you forgive me
he said yes I'll forgive you fifty thousand
dollars the man walks away and that's a
Loganism fifty thousand you could translate the money
in and he met another fellow and owed
him fifty dollars or say five hundred and
he said you pay me the five hundred
dollars he said I don't have it he
said well I'm going to put you in
a pauper's prison and you're going to have
to pay me that five hundred dollars well
there's no way a man in a pauper's
prison could pay it and the people who
heard this and realized how much this man
had been forgiven would not forgive and he
said alright what we need to do is
tell our boss that he was unforgiving and
this is what the boss said the lord
was very angry with the man who refused
to forgive this is Jesus telling the story
and delivered him to the tormentors till he
should pay all that was due unto him
and verse thirty five is significant so likewise
shall my heavenly father do unto you if
ye from your hearts forgive not everyone his
brother their trespasses who are the tormentors the
lord would turn me over to if I
refuse to forgive what's the message of the
bible I don't think the message of the
bible is salvation I think there's a better
word I think the message of this bible
is forgiveness it's all about how god forgives
and I as a child of god refuse
to forgive my life is now in absolute
contradiction to the message of this book isn't
that right if I refuse to forgive and
I'm turned over to the tormentors so if
I try to break and take back the
ground remove the enemy from someone's life that
is bitter what's going to happen nothing until
they what until they forgive and if they're
not willing to forgive it's all over period
it's the end the enemy has a right
to be there because why they're giving him
a right by rejecting the truth of god's
word jesus said my truth will what set
you free the rejection of god's truth will
not bring freedom and so you take them
through what is interesting jesus said not to
forgive from your mind but to forgive from
where your heart and there is a difference
how do you get someone to forgive from
their heart not just from the top of
their head we have the person and there's
a prayer there now they can pray their
own prayer but there's a prayer up there
that they pray and ask the spirit of
god to show them all the people that
have hurt them and that they're still holding
on to that hurt paul said what let
go of what the past jesus said you
can't plow this way looking backwards tonight i
had a ride to a house for dinner
on the way back i had a pilot
fellow driving me back that you guys are
examining who asked me about all my knowledgeable
information about airplanes now when we got in
the car and started on the highway if
i had noticed that this young man was
only looking in the rear of your mirror
i would ask him to let me out
because you're not going anywhere looking which way
that way and you must let go of
it bitterness makes me look which direction look
back and it will eat you up like
a cancer and it will not only defile
you it will defile what many you know
i used to tell the kids at the
college the young people coming i said do
you ever see these bitter old people in
the church yeah so you know what they
once were no bitter young people how do
you forgive from your heart i have them
shut their eyes and i take a pen
and a paper a pencil and a paper
and i say just bow your heads and
ask the holy spirit to bring to your
mind we forbid the working of the enemy
here just the holy spirit bring to your
mind those people who have deeply hurt you
that you're still holding on to and i
begin to make the list of names guess
who is usually first and second mother and
father and then they go and they list
these people and they get clear to the
end and guess the two that are never
listed if you read the notes you know
myself and god and then i have them
go back and what we do they say
they'll try to get out of it easily
they say forgive my dad for not being
a good dad i want to know why
he wasn't a good dad i want you
to share i want you to share the
things you're forgiving him for you know father
forgive my father for sexually abusing me and
you know what happens when they begin to
deal with the pain they break down and
weep the tears will run as they share
those pains that they've held on for years
they're releasing that pain to god and you
know what happens when they get through with
this they feel super it's too early to
quit but they're feeling good there's just a
release of all the stuff sometimes it's been
there for years and years and years and
they let go of this and let it
all go and then we ask are there
people that you have offended and do you
need to make things right and we make
a list and make a plan there that
they need to make a list the prayer
is there do you know that when timothy
was going to be the first pastor at
ephesus the church that had all the demonic
problems and that's why we have the book
of ephesians do you know the two things
that paul said he had to take to
his first ministry in order to be successful
do you know what they were do you
know what it was he said timothy if
you don't take these things you will shipwreck
as a missionary the two things he told
him to take was genuine faith and a
clear conscience which some have put away concerning
the life of faith have what shipwrecked like
hymenius and alexander who did not think faith
and a clear conscience were important and we
turned them over to satan that's heavy stuff
that's the book of timothy turn the page
the next one number three is rebellion versus
submission if a young person or an adult
last night the young people came i knew
they would because what did we talk about
last night we messed around with the girls
and music so i knew the young people
would come down and talk and it's easy
it was easy to deal with them and
i just said this basically because they were
wondering about music what song can i listen
to and as soon as i say what
song it is they're going to say oh
what's wrong with that one i've been there
and i said do your folks do your
mom and dad like the music you're listening
to no i said it's not a music
issue it's an authority issue isn't it right
it's no longer a music issue it's an
authority issue your mom and dad said we
don't want you to listen to this and
you're saying what yes i will do you
smell that it's an authority issue i'm getting
out under authority and what will happen rebellion
is as what the sin of witchcraft what's
going to happen to the young person they're
open targets for the enemy to bring destructive
temptations in their life when they're in rebellion
so you go through this it's not just
a young person but you go through this
i'm just walking you through as we work
it through if a person is terribly rebellious
you may spend a little more time and
let them share their rebelliousness and so on
and there's some things here but a young
person's school is not on there so you
may have to tailor it a little bit
for the person that you're dealing with the
next area and we spent a lot of
time on this pride versus humility and we
saw what happens when i'm proud i cannot
resist the enemy and five becomes a very
difficult one a very hard one and i
sit with a person and what they're doing
here is they're looking at the individual sins
that they've committed that's opened the door for
enemy attack in their life and they're going
to confess that sin and close the door
and they get very specific i said i
don't want details because Ephesians says it's a
shame to speak of those things which are
done of them in what?
secret, but you can call it by name
i don't want to know what you did
pardon me how you did what you did
i just want to know what did you
do and that you will confess that sin
to the Lord it says, let's look at
that prayer Dear Heavenly Father, you have told
us to put on the Lord Jesus Christ
and make no provisions for the flesh in
regard to lust i acknowledge that i have
given into fleshly lust which war against my
soul i thank you that in Christ my
sins are forgiven but i have transgressed your
holy law and given the enemy an opportunity
to wage war on my members i come
before your presence to acknowledge these sins and
to seek your cleansing that i again may
be freed from the bondage of sin i
now ask you to reveal to my mind
the ways that i have transgressed your moral
law and have grieved the Holy Spirit often
i have the person read the prayer quietly
and i say do you feel comfortable with
that and then they share the thoughts that
come when they're reading it or there isn't
any then i have them confess and often
again there's a lot of weeping as they
confess what they have done and asking the
cleansing of the Lord and then the prayer
is i now confess these sins to you
and claim to the blood of the Lord
Jesus Christ my forgiveness and cleansing i cancel
all ground the evil spirits have gained through
my willful involvement in sin i ask this
in the wonderful name of my Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ we come to this this
last one this last one has caused more
problems with an individual coming to freedom than
any other step and the last one has
to do with ancestral involvement in the problem
Dr. Fred Dickinson at Moody who has helped
when we took the class boy i don't
know how many years ago it dealt with
over 400 people mostly Moody students that had
demonic problems over the years and Dr. Dickinson
said 95% of all the students had
ancestral demons that had been passed on because
of occult involvement or terrible sinful lifestyle of
the parents that were in that child influencing
that child that opened the door to other
problems as they gave in to it but
let's look at this one and i'll read
it i think it's one of the best
that i've ever seen the best i've ever
seen written as a child of God purchased
by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ
i here and now reject and disown all
the sins of my ancestors as one who
has been delivered from the power of darkness
and translated into the kingdom of God's dear
Son i cancel out all demonic workings that
have been passed on to me from my
ancestors as one who has been crucified with
Jesus Christ and raised to walk in newness
of life i cancel every curse that has
been put upon me and announce to Satan
and all his forces that Christ became a
curse for me when he died on the
cross as one who has been crucified and
risen with Christ and now sits with him
in heavenly places i reject any and every
way in which Satan may claim ownership on
me and by this time there is nothing
left biblically there is no ground i declare
myself to be eternally and completely signed over
and committed to the Lord Jesus Christ i
now command every familiar spirit and every enemy
of the Lord Jesus Christ that is in
or around me to go to the pit
if you struggle with that wording and some
do say i command any spirit in or
around me to go where Jesus Christ sends
him right don't hang up on the words
just change it so it fits what you
want to say if you feel that would
be a more biblical way and remain there
until the day of judgment i now ask
you heavenly father to fill me with your
holy spirit and i submit my body as
an instrument of righteousness a living sacrifice that
i may glorify you in my body all
this i do in the name and the
authority of the Lord Jesus Christ i can't
tell you some of the most violent people
we've had i told you about the young
man that came from the bible college that
ripped the doors apart in the dorm to
get the people out that were trapped in
between the wood and they thought maybe he
needed to go home that young man as
violent as he was when he got to
that and got to the amen he said
the voices aren't talking to me anymore i've
got peace in my heart i said go
in the bathroom and look at your eyes
he went in the bathroom and he looked
at his eyes and he said i can
never remember my eyes being so clear he
walked out in the waiting room and his
mother and dad started crying they said something
wonderful has happened to you and all we
did is take them through these steps isn't
that beautiful just a beautiful thing i'd like
to share just in closing turn to peter
i'd like to share with you the principle
of the roaring lion and i could share
other stories of people that were marvelously set
free by just becoming biblical lining their life
up with truth taking back ground standing against
the enemy that took that as an advantage
coming to freedom in their inner life and
first peter chapter 5 verse 7 i always
read verse 7 but never read verse 8
isn't that interesting how we stop casting all
your care upon him he careth for you
you know that's worry you know how we
do that well i've been fishing that's how
you cast all your burdens on the lord
and then what do you do reel them
back the french do it a lot better
they translate it a lot better in the
french new testament in the french new testament
they use the illustration there instead of casting
a dump truck and the picture is when
you push the button the back of the
dump truck raises up and the load slides
off that's the french picture slide your load
on the lord and then he goes on
and he says why be sober be vigilant
because my friend you and i have what
an adversary and he's the devil and as
a roaring lion he walks about seeking whom
he may devour let's look at some of
these words interesting words here the word sober
means cautious the word vigilant means alert or
watchful the word devour means to gulp down
quickly you and i have an adversary who
wants to gobble us up one of the
gals at our office he said i really
don't understand that let me explain this to
you there was quite a bit of grass
between two of the buildings maybe a block
of lawn that you would have to walk
i said what if i showed you a
mine one of these personnel mines it won't
just blow your leg off like they use
in vietnam it's much better to blow a
soldier's leg off than to blow a soldier
to bits it has much more devastating effect
seeing a man rolling around with no leg
than seeing a man dead on the other
soldiers and i said marjo you've got to
walk from this building to that building and
there are 500 of them buried in the
lawn and i said marjo i would show
you what they look like i said how
would you walk from here over there and
she said very carefully i said that is
what he's saying walk alertly walk carefully because
we have one out there who is looking
for an opportunity to gobble me up now
let me give you the principle of the
roaring lion every night after the meeting it's
really neat because people come with specific questions
and we try to answer them but let's
say that tonight after the meeting that you
come and we talk and i get a
ride and you don't but just before we
close the meeting they said you know in
Waxhaw a carnival was going through and there's
been a wreck and a lion has been
let loose now you don't need to worry
it was downtown Waxhaw and it's probably gone
the other direction but we just want you
to know now let's add a little fun
to the story it gets very cloudy and
we have a thunderstorm and the reason i'm
leaving and you're leaving is because there is
a terrible storm and we lose all electricity
and so it is very dark outside and
as you're walking to apartment A or apartment
B building as you're walking in the dark
you're crunching on the gravel all of a
sudden it seems like there's other crunching on
the gravel in the dark and so you
decide maybe you better stop walking and you
stand still and you hear crunch crunch crunch
crunch and then all of a sudden you
hear a deafening roar I think you'll probably
respond in one or two ways either you
will drop dead or the other alternative you
may become a track star right?
and you'll take off do you know how
lions hunt in Africa?
Lions go in prides the pride of lions
will go into the rock or the scrubs
and a male lion will go upwind of
gazelles or zebras and sit down and as
the wind blows his scent down on the
zebras or the gazelles they get very very
you see National Geographic they get very very
nervous they know there's a lion but they
don't know where it is and the lion
will roar and they will make a decision
on the basis of the roar and what
will they do?
they will run but which way?
the other way where who's waiting?
the pride of lions are waiting to attack
them they're running to their destruction beloved you
and I have an adversary and when he
roars and we make decisions to run we
have just violated or just learned the principle
of the roaring lion who is running our
lives where are we going?
who's in control?
who is directing?
and you know what?
once you get on that he'll keep what?
roaring, roaring and roaring what does Peter say
in verse 9?
when he roars don't run because when you
make decisions on the basis of the roar
of the lion you may end up being
devoured by the one who's roaring he said
don't make decisions on the basis of the
roar but what should we do?
resist steadfast in the faith when you have
done all to stand keep standing for you
know that your labor in the Lord is
what?
what's vain come to nothing I want to
encourage all of you that when you meet
the roaring lion wherever that is remember to
what?
stand and resist him steadfast in the faith
and you'll be men and women and young
people walking in what?
victory as we stand in Christ and his
armor standing against that one who is seeking
to gobble me up Father I'm thankful for
the privilege you've given me to share with
these here and Lord may we remember that
which would be very important for us individually
Father may there be something said this week
that will be of significant help to each
and everyone here and Father when we face
the enemy may we not face him in
fear but stand stand with the belt of
truth the breastplate of your righteousness stand in
the full victory of the Lord Jesus Christ
that he provided for us on the cross
that we would protect our minds from the
enemy's attack that our situation is hopeless with
a helmet that we would raise up that
shield and quench the fiery darts and when
we see one of our loved ones or
friends or associates coming under tremendous attack that
we can run alongside and join our shield
with theirs and provide protection for them Father
that we pick up the sword of the
spirit your word and come against the enemy
and then use the weapon of all prayer
with our prayer targets oh Father thank you
that you have promised that we will always
triumph in Christ because we are more than
conquerors in Christ's name we pray Amen