The truth here So father, I just thank
you.
I thank you so much for Bill and
His ministry and his hand in my life
and all the changes that have come out
of this In Jesus name we pray Amen
My fears almost kept me from doing a
lot of things God wanted me to do.
I can't spell So I was asked to
go speak at a Bible college or asked
actually to come on staff I started a
Bible college with some other guys in Seattle
and see was small and it wasn't so
bad But I was asked to go to
an established Bible school to be a professor
Where we used overheads and I can't spell
I know I can't spell and the fear
that came over me These kids are going
to know that I'm dumb Well, they're gonna
find out after I'm there Well, I am
anyway, but I mean going a professor that
can't spell You know, that's unheard of It
can't be and yet I knew I had
to go but I almost didn't go because
of the fear and yet God was Calling
me to go.
I had to what face the fear that
I don't spell well And you know what
the kids loved me enough They would laugh
when I would misspell the word, you know
The eyes on the wrong part and all
that kind of stuff and you know, it's
what I thought wasn't Me it's so amazing.
I can't write well And Moody calls me
enough telephone three times to ask to write
a book for them.
And I told them no, no, no I
didn't know that was not normal.
You you write a book and get a
publisher to publish it Publishers don't call you
on the phone who I don't even know
and tell me I should write a book
Said how can I write a book?
I'm not a writer and I thought three
times it must be gone And I was
fearful you write a book, you know herb
is gonna know You're strange and all that
other stuff We wrote the book and today
it's a bestseller one of the bestsellers of
Moody press.
I'm not a writer.
I Got a call from Dallas from a
prayer retreat and They asked me to come
down and lead and speak to an international
prayer retreat Well, I pray at that time
that I was not a man of prayer
and they had the wrong guy One of
them was the president the ex-president of
Dallas Seminary a very godly man was part
of that board and I turned them down
Three times again.
Well get this guy.
He's really a prayer person get this person
really a prayer person And they they wanted
me I said, are you sure?
Because I would not pick me.
I Said how long do I have to
prepare for this thing?
They said you get a year and a
half So I went home and told my
wife says you won't believe this But I'm
gonna speak at an international prayer conference in
Dallas, Texas in a year and a half
and my wife looked at me She said
they must be hard up for speakers My
wife's the prayer person And she's a very
godly woman a real prayer person But guess
what it did it forced me to look
at why don't I pray like I know
I should pray It forced me I mean
wouldn't you be kind of fearful as kind
of a now I lay me down to
sleep guy to go to speak to people
From all over the world on prayer Well,
I got to tell you this was a
way off from what I'm doing But I
had to figure out why don't I pray?
Right, I know about prayer I've worked with
two godly men Mark Bubik is one of
the most godly men of prayer.
I've ever known in my life He would
go his church on Saturday and walk to
the church and pray for every single Individual
in that church and even maybe pray eight
or nine hours and didn't know it Man
I'm gonna pray a long time and look
at my watch six seconds.
Oh, no I really grabbed all the guy.
You know what?
I mean?
It's just I get lost in prayer.
I can't believe it I mean, I never
thought that could happen that not me I'm
a I'm a goer and I'm a doer
and you guys pray for me.
See I'll do it you pray I'll get
out there.
I'll do it.
But God says Logan you better start getting
the prayer life and so I began to
look and I found out Probably the best
place is a start is the most important
prayer in the Bible the inspired prayer The
prayer that Jesus said were to pray.
He said pray like what?
this and It's our Father Which art in
heaven?
Now Bill got third when I went this
guy Walked all over me.
I Wasn't happy I went he knows I
was upset He was charging money to hear
him preach the gospel Nobody ever charged money
to do that and I was offended and
I wasn't gonna go up to Seattle to
hear a guy Had no idea who this
character was that stood on a table and
wrote on a blackboard You know that that
was the thing but someone promised me he'd
give me my money back if I didn't
like it So that well, maybe I could
go if I don't like it I this
guy will give me my money back that
I paid to hear a guy preach unheard
of, you know You take offerings.
I wonder why you didn't know about offerings
Well, anyway, I went and he got all
over me the first night self-image.
I felt you know, I'm tall I'm ugly
You know, I just felt ugly and you
know all this stuff And I'm dumb and
I'm stupid, you know all those lies because
my dad told me that for years So,
you know all this stuff I couldn't believe
and then he got on bitterness.
Oh It's a pastor.
I Don't hate my father anymore since I
got saved.
I just don't like him You Know and
I had to deal with getting the bitterness
towards my dad out of my life.
Well, this all goes to prayer Because I
thought I might as well start with the
Lord's Prayer You know, I've gone through three
Bibles.
In fact, I was telling Paul my right
-hand man.
I have in my home 74 Bibles that
belong to me and 72 of them have
been read and when I go through a
Bible And mark it.
I don't read it again But I went
through three Bibles because I want to know
about prayer and I marked every time I
use a green You know, I have this
thing, you know has different colors and I
use green to mark every time someone talked
to God And every time God talked back
and that there was a prayer promise.
I put it all in green I thought
if I will understand prayer, maybe I ought
to go to the book on the book,
you know Maybe I this would be good,
but I want you to know I've also
read other books.
I Have over 1,400 books that I've
read in my library on prayer in the
deeper light.
So I don't want you to think I
haven't Really looked at the subject, but I
had to start with why?
Don't I pray?
You know why as a pastor and been
around Bill Gothard and all these other who's
who in the zoo people and Why is
it I don't pray and so I was
thinking about that.
I said, what are you gonna tell me?
Why don't I pray?
Well, I pray, you know got any gas
or we need some money or Lord No
one's giving to the ministry right now and
we're gonna you know, I mean that kind
of stuff but not really prayer You know,
my idea of prayer was giving God the
to-do list Okay, God, that's what you're
supposed to do for me and thank you
and go on I Learned prayer was much
more than that anyway All of a sudden
it dawned to me when I said our
father Didn't I have bad feelings if I
had bad feelings, what would that indicate?
I?
Still hadn't fully forgiven my dad right when
if the word father brings up some bad
feelings then I haven't forgiven my dad Okay
But when I said our father guess what
feelings I had none I Could say our
chair our couch our drapes There was no
feelings Now I've been raised very very conservative
and I see these Charismatics getting all fuzzy
about God and I'm going I don't know
if I can be that fuzzy God But
I think I'd have a little more fuzz
than what I've got.
You know, I mean just I Isn't it
good should be some feeling with the name
of God some warm feelings or whatever.
And so I asked God to help me
And it's been a long journey.
It's been wonderful But I have to get
back to where I was going to start
bill got that talked about biographies I can't
believe he did that.
He never told me so I went to
the bookstore and got some that you ought
to be reading I brought him here to
say you guys ought to read these things
Okay, and bill got me reading biographies, you
know, they either walk with wise men.
Who's what wise men do I know?
Well, a lot of the wise men I
knew were Professors that were in a Christian
college and more secular in our lifestyle and
they were that was to what?
So we began to read biographies and a
biography that every one of you needs to
read every one of you If you don't
read this you flunk as a Christian as
far as I'm concerned, and that's Hudson Taylor
spiritual secrets Every single Christian ought to have
read that book become the IMI you have
to read it or we don't graduate you
You stay there forever.
We have one student there.
You should see him.
He's got all long white hair came as
a young kid white hair Still hasn't read
the book yet.
You're not graduating These these I pick is
what they have but that book That book
caused me to start a ministry Where we
have ministered to thousands of people all over
the world in?
charge not one penny and That put pressure
on them to give where if this is
God's ministry and God will provide and we're
trusting him to provide and he has for
all these years Okay now for the girls,
there's two good books and Isabel Coon is
what I wanted my daughters to read now.
There's only two books on her life This
one is by searching It's really great It's
how she went to a Bible camp and
got a vision for the rest of her
life to work with the Lisu people Up
in the mountains of China.
This is the beginning where she struggled and
all this stuff in the arena of Isabel
Coon is the story of her whole life
and Here is a gal That made a
real difference in China unbelievable woman of faith
Failed she wasn't perfect, but really neat lady
all girls should know who is about Coon
is Well, I was gonna share what I
think of the guys once you start getting
your life, right God's gonna give you strange
opportunities I'm in Kansas City.
I'm teaching at a Bible college there and
the guy walks up to me and he
says hi Do you know who I am?
I said no He gave me his name.
He said 90 who I am.
I said no.
He's so I play baseball for the Royals.
Oh I Said that's good.
That's really nice.
You know make a life playing baseball And
he said I want you to mentor me
I Want you to disciple me and I
said well, I'm sorry, you know I really
don't like baseball and I've never been to
a Royals game ever He said good and
I was able to mentor him through some
of the most terrible wonderful Christian man Mentored
through some of those difficult times in his
life Here I am non-sportsy.
Don't go to baseball, but God has me
mentoring a guy in baseball Who played in
the series and all this others got a
series ring and all this other stuff?
I'll tell you guys you cannot believe the
doors that God will open for you if
You will start dealing with the issues that
God wants you to deal with One at
my first was self-image That was so
big and then bitterness followed that and all
these different areas another book for the guys
is Jim Elliot Jim Elliot died when I
was in Bible school You're probably not aware
of this, but this is back a long
time ago.
This is in the 50s when Jim Elliot
died Hundreds of Bible college students across America
volunteered to become Lifetime missionaries and those people
are now retiring from the mission field because
of his death All the wonderful things he
did when he was alive The world has
been reached through his death by others saying
I will go I will take his place
Okay, that's that's three.
They're over in the bookstore over there.
I Want to give you a biography story
as we have that's how many biographies have
in our house We have over a thousand
Well, we got rid of the TV.
We bought biographies for our kids to read
I mean you got to do something no
TV, you know and before I thought was
really good that Bert and Ernie were training
my Kids and what was it?
It's something else a garbage can guy.
I don't know, you know all of that
And I thought was great.
They're learning all these things one of these
things is not like the other one These
things just doesn't belong.
That's clever And then I've been sat there
and I thought we're trying to raise godly
kids this isn't so good You know, they
make fun of a guy's nose and you
know all this other stuff So anyway, we
thought we'd better get rid of this.
So we got rid of the TV.
But what are you gonna do in its
place?
Our kids went to public school Because if
they weren't bad enough to be homeschooled they
were not thrown out of anything So we
didn't have to homeschool because remember in those
days homeschool kids were the ones that were
thrown out of public school thrown out of
private school and The government said they have
to be educated and so they had one
Homeschool program and so kids that were homeschools
like you don't look that bad You don't
get the looks now, but let me tell
you and got this started with homeschooling a
lot of people looked These kids look okay
You know, they don't look weird They look
like they have all the marbles, but maybe
they don't know how to play the game.
You know, there's something not right Okay So
we have this collection.
I don't know.
I know I stopped when we had a
thousand that we bought more our Bookshelves with
the biographies are double double booked to fit
there.
Well, you know 1,400 over 1,400
books on prayer and the deeper life almost
a thousand books on warfare over a thousand
books You know, I got books stacked on
top of the bookcases to the ceiling It
looks awful, I mean if we ever had
an earthquake, I'll be dead, you know, I
Knew it I was killed by biographies.
It's all Bill's fault Well, let me tell
you biographies can be a lot of fun
I wish I could tell you the name
of this biography.
I can't but it's about the screwball and
I've kept about I mean last night God
was woke me up and told me about
this guy and I didn't know Bill was
going to do this and he said after
you show these books Tell the life of
this guy as much as I can.
Okay.
This guy is from Australia This guy is
an absolute nutcase For God, I mean just
you'd love him to death, but he's not
typical You know, he's not in the mold.
He was willing to be who he is
So they're in Erien Jaya, you know where
the cannibals or things Allah knows You know
and Pig grease over them.
They said it's really interesting when you're in
a Auditorium like this with these guys with
pig grease and it's hot.
So it smells like someone's cooking bacon Anyway,
so they're out they going out in Erien
Jaya are looking for tribes of cannibals that
no one's gone to and That's what they
were doing.
So they're walking along Looking and all of
a sudden they come to an entourage of
men that are greeting them with clubs and
they know this is the end and so
he got very very creative as he came
to the very end here of We got
to do something.
He cried out to God and God told
him what to do So what he did
he went and pulled out his false teeth
Stuck him back in I still had the
clubs.
I looked at him and he went they
dropped their clubs and guess what they did
And they forgot about killing these guys and
they went on I Mean they were so
overwhelmed with the how wonderful these guys were
taking their teeth out or the one guy
was Well, I'll give you another one.
This is even better Yeah, I've worked with
42 different mission agencies and I've been all
over the world.
It's been thrilling for a guy didn't have
much money I've been a lot of places
where people paid for me to go.
That was so neat.
Well, anyway this guy When you get into
these tribal areas it may take 30 days
by canoe to get there and Jars jungle
aviation radio services of Wickliffe.
They have developed an airplane that can land
in a very short space and so because
the helicopters are too expensive and Missions tried
him and they got rid of them.
They couldn't afford a helicopter You know, it
breaks down and dust gets and dirt gets
in and all that stuff.
So you have to make an airstrip These
places are not they're full of boulders and
huge trees.
They got to clear the jungle so you
clear the jungle then you have the boulders
and How you get rid of a huge
boulder that half of it is underneath the
ground this whole thing It's real simple you
take wood you build a fire around it
get it hot pour water and it cracks
Then you take off the cracks and you
heat it again and pretty soon it disappears
well this Australian guy is trying to clear
a runway so they can get food in
and mail and all this other stuff and
As long as he stayed with these cannibals
They'd give him fish hooks and other things
paid him with stuff.
That was important as long as he stayed
there they would work But as soon as
he went up to the house, they would
stop and wait for him Well, this airstrips
never gonna mean there's a lot of the
things that do besides stand there So what
he did was unique there was a stump
At the top of this Do you read
the book you were laughing?
I thought maybe you've read the book There
was a stump at the top of where
they're making this air thing.
So he took out his glass eye Stuck
it on the stump and pointed it towards
the workers He'd go in the house and
they kept working like crazy because they're still
watching them Well, I tell you biographies are
are neat I mean, he's a godly man
But it's so neat to see the creativeness
and and these people who really touch people
forgot and they were unique People that's what's
so neat.
They weren't all the same there They were
different people that were willing to be different
is really really good And one more I
need to start with because definitely this came
from God As I said when God was
speaking all this stuff to me last night
and I'm trying to think through all this
in the dark and I Said God you're
just bringing all these experiences of my life
up and I haven't thought about these for
years I haven't talked about these things for
years.
You know, are you really sure you want
me to share these things with these kids?
I'm sorry.
I'm calling you kids, but you know, I
get great grandkids almost as old as you
are.
So Not quite.
The oldest one is three and a half
Okay So I say kids I call the
guys that I am my kids to my
wife said they're men I thought they're boys
Give me a break So it's not a
put-down it just falls out but I
need to share This one see Bill talks
about Fears and I didn't know he was
talking about fears.
I didn't read the thing And God began
to talk to me about my fears and
where he came in.
I Mean, it was so amazing when I
heard bill talk.
I couldn't believe I mean, I was going
like, oh god, you knew he was gonna
say well, I Have been on reservations all
across the United States speaking to various Indian
nations American, you know the true Americans and
There's been demonic Situations at every one of
those places and even with the Cretan Ojibwe
way up in Canada Whatever you speak on
our reserve.
There is demonic activity and it is strong
the people live in fear spirits So I
was speaking at this time to the Sioux
Indians Lakota Indians and do you remember?
In your history, you probably remember What was
that guy Colonel, huh?
I know his name is anything What was
it was a big colonel in the army
that went to fight the Sioux Indians in
South Dakota?
General Custer and General Custer saw a few
Indians and he said I think they're Sioux
That's the last thing he said They wiped
him out Wiped out that whole group you
can go up there to where they were
killed and look at the the crosses They
have for every soldier these Sioux Indians killed.
So I'm on the reservation speaking to the
Sioux Every time I've been there and I
usually there for a whole week in counseling
Indians for their Indian spirit stuff and everything
there's a blizzard and This time I I
said every time you guys want to blurt
It just asked me to come back to
speak because you know since I've been here,
there's always a blizzard Well when you have
a blizzard, I mean, it's so bad.
There's so much snow why they come to
hear me I don't know.
They're pushing the cars out of the parking
lot because there's no traction So they have
to push them to the highway.
So they're pushing these people's cars out.
I mean, I wouldn't Walk in needy snow
to hear me let alone Have my car
have me to push it on the highway
so they can get some more traction to
get out of there Well, I didn't know
about you weeping meetings there was a lot
I was learning a lot about the Sioux
culture learning a bad about their demonic stuff
and so on as Dealing with the people
that were under a lot of demonic stuff,
but I Didn't know about you weeping meetings,
but you weeping meetings is like a home
prayer meeting For the medicine man, and he
just they put some sage on the floor.
They wrap him up in a star quilt
They tie it he begins chanting and as
he chants the the the spirits will untie
him The room goes pitch-black blue lights
float around the room and that the spirits
are here now And the guy some oh,
yeah on a sweat lodge when they do
the sweating stuff when the spirits of their
blue lights float around the room But there's
not a sweat lodge that's hooked into electricity
I mean these blue lights are not connected
to anything except for them their culture that
the spirits are here So anyway, he was
having these meetings, which I didn't know against
me as I was teaching Indians how to
be free of wicked spirits So he was
having these meetings someone said, but you know,
the medicine man's having you weeping meetings and
I'm going You know, maybe someone died and
they're all weeping.
I don't know what these Well, you know,
I mean I had no point of contact
to that.
Well, I go back to my motel this
is a you if you're going to see
the the president's faces you drive right by
where I was ministering and There's this motel
on the reservation That is very old the
cement the sidewalk goes right along the windows
You know the cars the sidewalk and the
motel The the windows have these you guys
wouldn't know what these are drapes that are
spun glass that were given during the war
That you can see through but they didn't
come together in the kind of hung down
Three inches of snow blew in under the
door into my room was there the whole
week on the floor I had to step
over this mound of snow to get out
so if you wanted to change your clothes
and be modest you went into the bathroom
because If you had any light on anybody
walking by could see in you might not
even have drapes on the window So I
had changed my clothes.
I got in bed.
I Shot up a quick prayer because I
was really tired because I've been counseling Indians
Maybe it's midnight or so and there's a
blizzard outside and I shut my eyes and
I got a creepy feeling You know, I
usually don't get creepy feelings My wife gets
creepy feelings other people get you know When
someone gets a creepy feeling that means it's
like 4,000 spirits there and finally I
get I I just don't have that sensitivity
No matter where in the world.
I am Africa, you know, wherever I just
don't sense it, but I see it in
people Immediately I could see in someone's eyes
if they're in the influence spirits, but I
don't have that sense and it's fine with
me But I shut my eyes and I
got a creepy feeling I opened my eyes
and the room was pitch black.
I mean you could have done this and
not see your hand.
I'm going hmm But this hot there's a
blizzard anybody ever been in a blizzard Our
blizzards black or when you look out are
they white?
They're white and immediately.
It's white.
I'm going wait a minute This is not
of God aren't you glad I'm really a
Little slow on the uptake, but this does
not have God and I just said this
I said in the name And I never
had prayed this before but God gave me
the prayer that I needed at that time.
I just said this Whatever is here.
I Command you through the blood in the
authority of Lord Jesus Christ to go back
to the one who sent it the room
filled with light Not those lights came on
but you know the outside light came in
I went back to sleep people see you
want to sleep I said yeah, why not
go to sleep they were gone And I'm
tired you know God does God have more
power than the enemy You can say it
Have you experienced it?
Do you see when you experience?
Biblical truth it gets rid of fears The
first time I ever saw a demoniac was
in Jerusalem, and it scared me to death
This guy and we kept trying to get
away from him I Didn't know what he
was if he was crazy, or he had
demons or something But this guy I didn't
want to be around and they were my
wife and I and another couple and we're
going we go down You ever been in
Israel most small little narrow alleys every alley
went down.
He's coming towards us We gotta go I
mean then I'm real I realized he was
demonic He went to they had a little
brazier where they're cooking me he picked up
the hot coals to warm his hands You
know when guy holds hot charcoals red hot
charcoals in his hand you can know he's
more than crazy You know there's something else
going on here Well mean that guy scared
me to death if you told me I
was ever going to deal with people like
this I'd say you're nuts.
I Am a Bible fundamentalist.
I am conservative, and we don't even believe
in this stuff well long I'm not gonna
give my life to this craziness, but anyway
guess what happened next day back in the
motel We got a telephone call from the
medicine man and He asked if he could
meet with us so we could explain the
power of God because he knew there was
a greater power That sent the demons back
that he sent into my room And he
wanted to know something in that power I
called back and had the church praying and
we met with this man and and Answered
and talked to him about the Lord Jesus
Christ for about two hours Guys it's true
greater is what?
He that is in you than he that
is in the world because the one in
the world was created by God and the
God Who created everything lives inside of me?
Why do I have to fear?
These things I don't don't go around looking
for them, but if they find you You
know stand against them Okay, I wanted you
to know that I think as I've watched
a lot of a tech.
It's not just a tip a lot of
ATI kids They've got tremendous amount of information
But they've never experienced the truth of that
information you understand See when that truth becomes
a part of who you are You've made
it you've made it in that area when
I finally really realized all this stuff bill
was talking about self-image You know if
I to talk to you 20 years ago.
I'd be so scared that one of you
wouldn't like me and That would sink my
ship You had to like me So I
had to think about what this be it
would they not like me if I said
this or do I have to be?
clever You know Johnny Erickson Bill pulled a
dirty trick on me at Knoxville He said
Jim.
I want you to go over and speak
to the teens and He said would you
do that?
I wasn't down for it.
I suppose sure when he said in about
five minutes I know great.
What am I going to say?
You know I got three hours with the
teens what I'm going to talk about I
walk over there and guess who is speaking
ahead of me Johnny Erickson Tata, I wanted
to push her off the platform.
I mean, how could I follow this lady?
Come on.
You ever heard her speak kids.
She's phenomenal.
She's just she's awesome Like I said if
I juggled fire, and you know handled rattlesnakes
to show I had power You know there's
no way that I could even come up
to Johnny Erickson Tata here She can hardly
move and when she got through speaking the
kids just They thundered her with applause.
I thought I'd like to just maybe I
could push her off and keep going But
thank God I my self-image was intact
you know otherwise I'd have died You know
what can I do magic tricks saw my
wife in half.
You know what do I do?
Follow Johnny is such a godly godly person
Okay, but see I I want more than
anything that the truth.
You know would be internalized Data would become
a part of who you are you'll be
dynamic No one can talk you out of
stuff.
I mean you know I like what someone
said I know that I know How do
you know I don't know, but I know
that I know Okay, if you want to
look at some Exodus 30, what am I
supposed to be through bill?
I haven't gotten started yet What time is
it over here Robert he left yeah, I
haven't started with my message This is helpful
in every warm-up.
I just want to know that I stop
on time.
Oh good Yeah, well I've been out to
lunch for a long time Amen Why
don't we pray right now?
Father we we're thankful for your wisdom for
your guidance and Lord for your word, and
I pray father as bill meets with this
pastor That I know there's a fear thing
here.
I pray that this pastor would be open
To the truth that bill shares Father I
pray your Holy Spirit would bring up just
the right truth for this situation and That
the pastor would have bold Be bold enough
to walk in that truth that you would
be glorified in Christ's name.
We pray amen Okay Exodus 34 This is
a call of God to Moses for prayer
It's a good thing to study there's two
really good calls on prayer in Scripture, and
this is one of them and The thing
is prayer is spending time with God so
God Gave Moses a specific invitation to spend
time with him And he said Moses in
spending time with me get the tablets ready
because I got a message So when I
meet with God, I don't necessarily need tablets,
but it may not hurt to have paper
You know speak Lord.
I'm gonna Put down what you say.
I want to keep track of what you
say and Then he said Moses be ready
in the morning For most people Morning is
the best time and If you're not a
morning person I would pray that God would
make you a morning person because I was
not a morning person.
I was a night person You know, I'd
be up really very late at night and
I would sleep in And I said God
you got to help me so now I'm
able to get up wake up usually 330
or 315 to start the morning and go
to work and so on But I know
when you're been a night person much of
your life and all of a sudden I
kept looking Jesus in the morning You know
morning morning morning all over scripture people are
meeting God in the morning and If you're
trying to meet God in the afternoon, you're
not me in the morning.
Maybe he's not going to show up.
No, I'm sorry You know, but see Moses
didn't sleep in he didn't say, uh, yeah,
you know, oh, you know, the Where we
have today that movie?
Donna I'm ready Remember through your speakers.
Did you guys awaken up to hear it?
I'm not much of a whistler.
You know that thing.
Oh They just blast you right out of
bed.
Although they're starting with nice ones.
Now you should have been here years ago
They would start with you know, a trumpet
blast you thought it was a rapture you
Should I hold on to the bed or
what?
Sorry, I make God in my pajamas.
They're not my new ones.
Haha, you know So he said be I'm
I just listening from that chapter Come up
to meet God.
I'll tell you guys When you meet God,
it's always an up experience But come up
and meet God Present yourself to me on
top of the mountain I've been mentoring an
alert guy for years and years and years
and we just have become very very good
friends He just climbed Mount Whitney Mount Whitney
in Alaska is the tallest Mountain in the
world to climb Did you know that I
didn't know that?
Because Mount Whitney starts at what sea level
For all the thousands of feet the other
mountain.
What's the other one ever been climbs?
Yeah, but it starts like at five six
ten thousand feet or something you start climbing
the mountain you're already that high But Whitney
is the the largest climb.
Anyway, you read it.
I didn't know that he told me that
and going up They stopped some guy next
to him His sled started going he reached
for it and pulled him off and he
was killed six people died Climbing the mountain
in the three weeks.
He and these other three guys were climbing
up six people died climbing Mount Whitney and
When they got to the top Very very
cold the wind blowing and you know below
zero all this other stuff any part of
your body that was not covered Would instantly
get frostbit or freeze I mean because a
lot of guys didn't know they had a
little piece or something and They got frostbit
or part of their face got frozen out
of his group but some of the people
that were there, but he but can you
imagine being on top of that mountain and
Looking I made it to the top three
weeks To get up that mountain in all
the it was not it was not a
picnic You know many times they said in
fact they said this they said, you know,
I wonder if hell has fire I Wonder
if it has snow ice and blizzards They
were telling me how difficult it was, okay
And he said no one is to come
with you to the top of the mountain
There's times when you are to meet with
God collectively or with a friend But I'm
telling you You need to spend a lone
time with God Every single one if you
do you will be dynamic young people but
when you get your direction straight from God
himself, it just it'll change your life and
So we have Moses response he rose early
he went up as God commanded him Moses
was obedient to the call of God when
Moses saw Moses Desire to hear from God.
I mean to get up early and that
all that he did Moses was what?
He really wanted God to talk to him.
He really wanted to do it when God
saw that God descended and spoke with him
and the Lord revealed to Moses aspect of
his character if you read in your Bible
That Moses would have never known if he
hadn't spent that time alone with God The
Lord proclaimed himself as Jehovah the Eternal God
the great I am He said Moses.
I want you to know I'm merciful.
I'm gracious, I'm slow to anger a bounding
and steadfast love and I'm faithful Moses responded
to God speaking by bowing his head in
worship When God speaks to you, that's all
you can do.
Oh This is so important Some of the
most important times I've ever had in worship
is by myself along with God and In
fact, there's things we won't be sharing here
that we share in prayer retreats and prayer
seminars and things like that that see There
are things sometimes that God will share with
you.
In fact, we're told that When God shares
secrets with you Sometimes those secrets are not
to be shared with anybody and that's in
the Psalms.
I think it's psalms 24 And so the
first question I have for you when was
the last time you were alone with God
and I'm not doing it to put guilt
on you.
I'm saying you're missing something.
You're really missing something You know But let
me tell you what the children of Israel
did When God was going to speak, you
know children Israel said Moses You go up
there.
You talk to God.
We don't want God to talk to us
and you come down and tell us what
God says you know what they were satisfied
with a Second-hand encounter with God They
didn't want a personal encounter with God Gothard
You have an encounter with God and tells
us what God says You understand that I'll
go to church.
My pastor.
Tell me what God says Yeah, I would
like to know what God told you this
morning.
What's God's special message to you today?
See, I don't want a second-hand encounter
with God I Want to have a direct
encounter with God?
Okay And I'm gonna meet with him so
he can give me a message.
He's got nothing to tell me.
Thank God I was still wonderful.
I was with God Other times he'll give
me things that I don't know what's going
to happen in our counselees that are coming
that are under the influence of Demons, I
don't know what's gonna happen.
Okay?
Now in Matthew 6 we got a look
there In Matthew chapter 6 We have God
Calling again.
He called Moses to meet with him alone
and in Matthew 6 we have Jesus Talking
and giving us a call Matthew 6 6
Jesus said But when thou prayest Enter the
closet God is calling us to the secret
place Secondly, what does he say?
Shut the door to your secret place Shut
the door and you know that when you
go in the secret place, you know, you're
gonna find there the Lord He's already in
secret place and he's been waiting for you.
How long has he been waiting?
Where he could talk to you?
Share his heart with you Share truth with
you Encourage you I Don't know what it
is what he's gonna say, excuse me.
Hmm.
I don't know what he's gonna say But
remember Samuel when he went in alone with
God, what'd he say?
It was just a kid Speak Lord.
I'm listening I'm here What do you want
to tell me it was interesting I asked
the girl this morning if she Heard the
wake-up Call I said, oh no.
She said I wasn't in my room.
I was in the stairwell Getting alone with
God Pretty good, right?
She's out there in the stairwell to get
alone Isabel Kuhn good old Isabel went to
Moody and She felt she needed to get
alone with God.
She's already been a school teacher you know
had a degree but she went to Moody
because she was going to go out under
Hudson Taylor's mission mission to China and She
kept looking for a place where there wasn't
people now.
I have Not stayed in the girls dorm,
but I've stayed in the boys dorm at
Moody I've spoken at Moody numerous times and
have stayed on campus numerous the times and
my wife and I went To study how
to deal with demonized people at Moody under
see Fred Dickinson the head theologian there We
went one summer my wife and I did
So the only place that she could find
In the girls dorm at Moody Bible Institute
where no one would be was the broom
closet.
You'll read that in that book And she
took a bucket turned it upside down took
the mops out Sat on the bucket shut
the door and read her Bible in that
closet the cleaning closet Listen if you want
to meet with God you want to meet
with them alone You will find a way
because God wants you to find a way
because God wants to meet with you More
than most of us want to meet with
him You know when I finally started praying
and then I went from just praying to
going to the secret place God said to
me where you been I've been waiting 40
years for you You know what took you
so long I'll tell you the same thing,
but why wait 40 years guys You know
why do you have to lose your hair
and half your teeth?
Before you meet with God.
I did have full head hair at one
time I Got a picture to prove it
Okay now When I enter in memory said
find the place, but this was hard The
hardest thing for me to do almost gave
up.
I thought maybe I'm not one My mind
goes all the time Are you guys like
that your mind just goes all the time
my mind is going all the time So
the first thing I need to do is
shut the door.
Why am I shutting the door?
Just shut out distractions You God is not
going to holler at you Be still and
know that I am what God So I
need to take care of what all of
the distractions a friend of mine Wanted to
start getting along with God so he went
in the family room, and they had fish
He's getting really quiet before the Lord, and
it was gloop gloop gloop Gloop gloop, you
know the bubbles going up for the fish
gloop gloop gloop So he didn't know if
they should eat the fish or what you
know I mean, I I can't this is
driving me nuts Okay, wait Maybe that's not
the place for him, but I said Lord
you could help me I'm all quiet.
I get everything quiet I'm here all of
myself and my mind is going every which
way you could think of and I tried
Quieting my mind.
I said Lord you got well.
I'll tell you eventually.
I mean it just wasn't happening Something maybe
it can't be for me.
You know God put me together and my
mind goes so many ways So praying it
isn't so bad see praying something's happening But
all of a sudden it's dead silence Just
be in a church where there's dead silence
And Him knows and I mean they people
can't stand it They just can't stand quiet
as you ever been with be quiet They
rustle papers and drop him knows and you
know shut up kiddo.
What should I get home?
Kids the hope service is long Dad's gonna
get me I'll give you some ideas, and
I'm telling you it is not easy Satan
does not want you to hear God speaking
to you directly And here's voice I have
tons of material on how to recognize the
voice of God how to hear the voice
gun How do I know it's God speaking
a song we can't give it to you
now, but we have all this stuff You
know we did these retreats for your dad
in the Northwoods.
We gave him a 670 page notebook on
prayer No different aspects of praying Okay The
first thing you may want to do is
to read scripture at least focus my mind
see I'm getting along I've shut the door.
I want to meet God.
I want I want to be still before
the Lord Maybe I've already run through my
to-do list for God and all that
kind of stuff But now I want to
read a portion of scripture Something that would
help another thing To begin to focus more
is maybe meditate on a familiar scripture or
on a prayer promise you know something that
is important where my focus is where it
should be and Then I prayed and I
said God.
I kept trying and trying and I kept
thinking maybe Maybe it isn't for me.
You know maybe I just couldn't be one
of these guys that I read about And
these books on prayer that I've read of
in the news this isn't for me, and
I said God could you quiet my soul?
Please quiet my soul Lord.
I want to hear you yes.
I read your word Yes, I love scripture.
I love spending hours in the word, but
I wanted God to speak directly To my
heart and to share truth in my heart
and often God has shared stuff Like today
before it happened I Didn't know Bill's gonna
talk about biographies And God told me to
tell you that story about the guy he
brought it up.
I read it years ago I forgot all
about that Guy from Australia.
I mean it's amazing the stuff.
I'm telling you.
I haven't talked about thought about for years
There's more stuff that God told me to
tell you see and then After you're quiet
before the Lord, I'd like to end with
that But some people pray first.
I'm not saying how you schedule your prayer
thing, but you could schedule it now before
we get into why pray I would like
to Share why you want to draw close
to God and of all of the things
were popping in my mind One of the
things was Ghana Africa and I went to
Ghana Africa and I Was speaking to Christian
leaders from ten Western African countries on spiritual
warfare It was fabulous all these godly Christian
men over big ministries all over these ten
countries in Africa Met in Ghana, and I
had a wonderful time and working with them
But the problem is some of these men
are from French-speaking countries, and I don't
You know I struggle with English but French
Not at all and so I count the
fact there wasn't one Christian leader didn't have
demonic issues Either in their family or in
their personal life or in their marriage or
something and so I met with each one
While others were speaking I was down underneath
and I counseled these men From early morning
to past midnight every single day, and I
needed a French person And so a gal
I know by the name of Rebecca.
I won't give you her last name Rebecca
and joy were missionary partners working in Gabon
which is French-speaking and She came to
be my interpreter, and so they would tell
their it's you know you can speak English
But when you have pain and hurts you
like your heart language Which is not English
so they would speak their French to her
and these guys would be weeping I Didn't
know what in the world.
She was telling But I'd like to tell
you two stories About Rebecca, I've known Rebecca
for years.
She's now in Fiji Islands.
She's married now, and she's in Fiji But
Rebecca said Jim.
I want to tell you because I was
a vice president of the mission.
She was with and She said Jim.
I want to tell you This is so
unique.
She said you know I was in this
one part of Gabon for four years working
in this church And then joy and I
got the women's ministry going and children's ministry
So now we're in another part of Gabon
working And she said just before I came
here these both these things gonna tell you
it happened just before she came She got
a letter from a deaconess in that first
church and that deaconess hated These two girls
in an Africa the way that if you
want to really Honor somebody is to bring
them a meal a Cooked meal and she
would periodically bring these girls cooked meal that
she had put poison in The girls didn't
get sick.
They didn't die she upped the poison She
could not kill these two missionaries by poisoning
to death in Africa let me tell you
if they want to poison you know exactly
what to do and how much to give
and all that other Stuff it's a major
way of killing people She did not die
says Jim.
I can't believe this.
We didn't know that this one was trying
to kill us and this woman Became a
believer Because she saw God's protection on these
girls can God protect you You can say
it Can you tell me a time that
God protected you know I mean, that's what
we need We need stories people say yeah,
you rattle off all this scripture stuff, but
where is it?
What have you experienced people are more?
Want to see Christianity that works than Christian.
You know philosophy and all this other stuff
Okay What happened just the week before she
came to see me?
Says Jim I got to tell you this
She said at our church and I was
there just right after Easter at our church
in Africa that particular pastor will only take
members at Christmas and Easter and They meet
with people before Christmas that want to join
the church and put them through a lot
of questioning and all that stuff there was
a lady came that they didn't know they
put her through the questioning and The elders
said we vote on her being a member,
and he said I don't feel right about
her They said well tell us why I
don't know why But I don't feel good
about this lady, and I don't want to
take her as a member and They said
well since you're the pastor okay, so He
vetoed her But guess who shows up at
Easter time for the Easter thing because see
when you become a member you take communion
and are baptized and So this woman came
again, and she answered all the questions right
she knew all the lingo and gave all
the questions, right?
So she was baptized.
They had this big church service.
She took communion Got sick Joy and Rebecca
Took her to the pastor's house Which is
right next to the church she fell down
on the floor the kitchen floor and the
pastor walked in and said Tell me who
you are Tell me why this is happening
and she started to talk and she died
God killed her So here they have a
body of a woman from somewhere No one
who she was the new troops up in
the mountains, and so they came from the
mountains to get her body And they said
you know who she is and they said
no.
She's the most powerful sorceress in our village
and She said I will taste the Christians
power and God struck her dead Rebecca said
oh wow That's a good story to tell
before we take communion in church You know
is your heart right with God you know
are you one of us?
You know that's what it says the scripture
tells us to do that You know that
that there's so many wonderful things that happen
in Gabon.
I'll give you one more and This is
craziness.
I mean if you can be used of
God God will have people find you to
help them the Assistant ambassador from Togo to
Ghana found me I've never been to Togo
You know I don't know anything about Togo
I don't anything about this country, and I
thought how did they find me?
You know this is I mean it's like
finding me in New York City although the
city we're in but it's the largest city
in Ghana It's huge.
How did she know I was there didn't
have a radio broadcast wasn't TV.
How did this woman know I was there
and So she she asked me to come
and she asked me to pray and dedicate
her family to Christ I was I'd love
to do that, but that was just to
get me in the house so I went
to the house where the assistant ambassador lived
and She's a prayer of my family, and
it looked like the Duggars except the Duggars
and who it's the other group The other
one you know the beat the piano here.
What's their name?
The had to got together.
I mean this they were she had to
have litters I mean, there's all these kids
all over the floor, and I'd go I
I can't believe this lady has had all
these kids So it's all our servants, and
I had all the people that work for
us at the embassy and everything It's all
their kids, so they wanted me to bless
this whole mass of children Which I did
and she said you know I hope you
won't mind that they're really they're not in
your face I mean, it's amazing in so
many countries people are very gracious and very
kind and you have to kind of wait
to find out Is there anything else you
want me to do she said yes?
She says we we are getting a new
home and we want you to go and
Dedicate that home to the Lord and also
cleanse the home of demonic spirits I said
okay, so we drove to the home and
this had been an Ambassador's home from another
country which their country had bought this home
well, we walked into the living room was
probably as big as From that wall to
where that wall drops down and this white.
That's what the living room Because it would
be where you would entertain with all kinds
of people you know I mean it was
this would be where you to entertain All
ambassadors all important people it was huge hello
Whoa, I love this house You know so
this is a huge room well when you
went out of this room They had there
was like two buildings put together.
They're hooked together with the roof But on
both ends they had these blocks that have
the design in them You know the cement
blocks you can't see through, but there's cement
blocks sometimes they put in patios have a
design so the wind blows through and they
had those at both ends and This thing
was almost as big as this room, but
it was like outdoors But with you know
for rain everything and they would have outdoor
parties and things there even though it was
part of the house There was a cement
staircase went up So I prayed for that
They had locked the door to the kitchen
area and where the servants would sleep and
all that So I put my hand on
that door, and I prayed that God would
cleanse now I'm praying in English the the
guy who is taking me around with the
ambassador was an African fellow who is with
World Vision and So he went upstairs Walked
across a little balcony That's this big open
area walked across the balcony And this is
where the office would be and where their
private rooms would be that door was locked
because the painters locked it And they forgot
to bring the keys they felt really bad
about I suppose put my hand on the
door I put my hand on the door,
and I prayed and This fellows in praying
the prayer to them in French I'm saying
in English the the World Vision guys saying
in French we walk over The next wing
and this is where the children gonna sleep
This is where guests are going to be
all of that and this whole great big
wing the door was locked So I put
my hand on the door, and I begin
to pray Now I'm not I don't think
raising your voice gets results lame-a-jesus,
ha ha ha you know everybody leaves the
demons are All sitting around you know I'm
not that kind of a person Because wait
God has power and not the voice you
understand the power is him not the voice
So I'm praying now.
I'll tell you what happened, but I didn't
want them to be worried about what was
happening Because something was happening that it never
has happened to me before and I'm praying
over this house but this guy who's Interpreting
in French he got the ghost.
I mean this guy was really You know
I mean he was really getting into this
prayer stuff And I'm just praying calmly and
everything when I got through praying this guy
said something was pushing your hand off the
door I said yes, I said there was
a force that was trying to not only
push my hand out the door But push
me over the balcony down on that cement
floor and he said I know He sensed
them.
I felt them.
I never said a word I didn't get
all freaky or anything, but this guy's sensual
spirit, and he was praying in French against
it these people were crying Because they felt
so bad that these spirits were so powerful
that there didn't even want me to lay
my hand on a door Where they went
and he said this and I know some
of you here are probably of this Ethnic
group, it's not a put-down.
It's the truth.
He said they were Chinese spirits I Said
how do you know he said I know
See in his mind.
He saw these Chinese spirits So we're trying
to push me off, and I thought well
what Chinese spirits be doing in Africa in
this house So they checked it out and
came and told me and guess what that
house was before the Chinese Embassy Where they
you know did their stuff?
I'll tell you it's been wonderful walking with
war guys Country after country after country place
at the place after place is so thrilling
I'll give you oh Yeah, I get I'll
give you two real quick ones.
I could give you a lot See often
you're tested.
Do you really believe what God says?
Do you really believe that We always pray
God's protection You want to hear some wild
stories talk to Paul?
Who's often my prayer partner and also prays
in our office with nice Christian families?
He could tell you some stories See you
think my hair rise up, but then it
got you know brittle and all fell out
But I it doesn't frighten me anymore Voices
coming out of someone does not frighten me
Why do I know?
Because the guy who's in me is greater
than whatever's talking to me and the enemy
wants me to what?
be afraid Jesus wasn't afraid.
I mean when you're afraid anyone what about
the gathering you know breaking chains And can't
keeps his clothes on and everybody's scared to
death.
He has all this horrendous power Jesus said
hi, you know hey, I'll talk to you
Come on read the scriptures Believe the scriptures.
I'll just give you two.
I was dealing with the youth pastor In
fact bill met this youth pastor in Washington
DC when the demons spoke out of him
and said what church I went to In
Sioux City, I don't know if you how
close Washington DC is to Sioux City in
the middle of United States So it's at
least a thousand miles And he says Jim
Logan you go to this church And I
know two men in that church that are
fighting which was true And we're going to
destroy that church through these two men named
him and then we're going to take down
your office This is all coming out of
the youth pastor.
Take down your office and You're not going
to have an office.
You know what I told him that's fine.
I'll fight you out of my garage You
know it's not I know I don't take
the building.
It's not much of an office Anyway, you
can have it.
You know I'm not going to be intimidated
by these things because they are defeated I
don't care how powerful their voices are.
I don't care all threatening.
They want to be they're all Defeated we
have little kids standing against the enemy Five
six-year-old kids just refused to be
tormented by this stuff.
That's going on in their house, okay?
Well this youth pastor We didn't go any
we didn't get anywhere with him bill was
with me.
We didn't have enough time So he's going
to meet his pastor the next day the
pastor does not believe and wicked spirits this
guy was out of it now He's not
under the enemy's influence, but he's still in
trouble and he said pray for me I
don't want to meet with the pastor.
He doesn't believe in this stuff, and I
don't know what's going to happen well He
met with a pet we went on to
New Jersey To speak bill, and I did
and so he met with the pastor He
found out later on the pastor started fooling
with him the the demons knew that the
pastor didn't believe in this this kid jumped
up onto the pastor and knocked him in
his chair on the floor and The church
people had to come and pull the youth
pastor who works for the pastor off the
pastor and the pastor says he has a
lot of repressed anger I'm sorry look at
his eyes Spooky you know anger may be
awful, but it's not spooky Anyway, this is
pastor came to Stay and what's interesting?
The home he stayed in Was the name
of one of the men?
That the demons were going to use to
tear that church down It's not unique and
I never told that family that you know
It's this guy the demons spoke out of
and talked about what he was going to
so anyway He's sitting there, and he would
go in and out of demonic stuff.
He'd be there with me, and then nobody's
home Hello anyway all of a sudden He
was getting pretty bad.
He says I'm gonna leave here, and I've
gone You're not leaving here like this who's
driving the car you or a demon possessed
guy driving the car And you're not gonna
run over people in the parking lot You
know when you come out of my office.
We could get sued or something for this
so I Sat close to this guy with
an open Bible in my lap because we
always counsel from a Bible and Fascinating thing
he said I'm gonna rip your throat out,
but when he said that his hand went
right up to my throat I'm gonna rip
your throat out now.
I'm a jumper So don't try me in
the hallways But I'm not gonna go With
a demon I refuse and God helps me
never to go when they do something you
don't expect you having a nice quiet Bible
time and some guy's gonna rip your throat
out, and he was young and His hand
came right up like this, and he could
not close his fingers on my throat That's
the word God saying I'm in Christ the
wicked and what?
Touches me not He couldn't close his fingers
on my throat So he jumped up and
he said I'm gonna go I'm leaving I
said no You're not in the name of
Jesus you sit on that couch.
I have to go to the bathroom You
can't get off that couch until I come
back, and he sells like this I'm sitting
down because I want to and so I
left one to the bathroom.
He was still on the couch I mean,
I'm not trying to be funny, but I'm
just telling you I'm not gonna wet my
pants because some demons scaring me.
You know what I'm saying you got to
go you got to go And I want
to give you one more I Could tell
you so many stories of people that have
tried to kill me in counseling Are you
afraid no?
I mean, I'm 78 years of age.
I got knee problems.
I had a stroke sometimes I use a
cane and I get these young whippersnippers like
some of you guys, so there you got
more muscles and brains you know You know
come on.
Yeah, I can't wrestle you guys Whitening out
with your little finger But God's on my
side and see what I'm trying to tell
you I'm an old man.
I've been threatened by demons to kill me
right there and I know who I am
in Christ, and I'm not afraid and remember.
I was a guy that was fearful that
you would reject me But being rejected by
demons isn't so bad.
I'll tell you that it's not bad If
you're accepted by demons you need to come
and see us Okay But I'm sitting there.
Here's another missionary I could tell a bunch
of missionary stories because I travel all over
the world Speaking and working with missionaries, and
I was sitting with this missionary with a
Bible on my lap This missionary has come
to the prayer conferences almost every single one
in the Northwoods, but this is way back
years ago And this guy is wonderful, but
he had some really bad baggage And he's
sitting there and after he came to freedom.
It was late at night.
He looked at me, and he said Jim
I was going to leap on you and
attack you and I said why didn't you?
Said there was an angel with a sword
standing between us.
I had another guy.
Tell me the same thing.
I never saw them I Have many friends
Where they have the angels around them people
saw they were going to attack them, but
they couldn't get through The hedge Kids this
stuff is real.
It really is real It's not just a
bunch of theories and a bunch of whatever.
It's wonderful you guys are on the winning
team You know that if you join the
team You're winners.
You're not losers I'm not saying you have
to go around and be the demon caster.
You know of the neighborhood or whatever But
I'm just saying if you don't need to
be afraid of the enemy He knows he's
defeated he knows where he's going he knows
what the end is He just doesn't want
you to know that I could give you
more stories of God's protection, and it's wonderful
I have never all I gotta tell you
one.
It was Gothard.
I could have run Gothard's neck.
I was really tired I was wore out.
We're gonna go traveling somewhere together.
I can't remember when it was a number
of years ago I show up at his
office.
What I want to do is find a
place to crash and go to sleep and
Gothard said I've got a guy.
I want you to see well.
I know it wasn't just oh look at
the student He's really handsome.
I don't think that's what he meant And
I'm going yes, I'm supposed to serve with
a smile and It's the last thing I
want to do is to be involved with
some Demonic character, and I'd had a real
bad week before not every one of our
weeks is happily ever after You know I
mean sometimes people don't want to get free.
They don't want to deal with issues all
that kind of stuff So it was just
I was just not really fit for human
consumption.
I just didn't feel So bill sends me
down you ever been there You know the
place where the print shop the other building
it wasn't Bill's building, but the other building
down the hill I go down the hill
and They've got me in a room That
I think before was the coke closet when
you first come in and they have a
table and chair and when you put your
Chairs out there against the wall.
I mean if you're in there back in
there You can't get out unless you climb
over the table There's no way you can
get around these chairs when they pull them
out, so I come in I Was just
out of it.
I mean really emotionally drained physically tired not
in the best shape to deal with demons
Especially if they're real active This guy was
sitting here at the table.
I was at the end of table This
was by the door, so they got really
bad.
I could run out and say go get
bill Surge you're right.
I'll stick them back on you So I'm
sitting there and the demons began to speak
out of this guy.
I said let's pray I need some prayer
and I'm praying I'm praying for wisdom and
I stop and this guy starts Demons start
speaking out of him in some language.
I Don't know what it was I made
me mad.
I said if you're going to talk to
me speak in English They switched I don't
know all those little stuff.
I don't have an interpreter.
You know they can speak any language They
don't have a language problem, and he spoke
in English and For a second there fear
came over me You know and he just
was this has never happened before You know
trying to kill me.
That's one thing, but speaking to me in
languages.
I don't know that's another thing You know
it's just a different situation.
I was really vulnerable and I started to
fear and I don't know who the guy
was But his eyes were awful I mean
if you ever been a horribly demonized person
If you took a picture they could put
it in a movie and all the people
would scream and go home put it at
the End of one of these horror movies
they have because it is really creepy to
see this in someone's face and It made
me so mad when they did that That
I reached over and I grabbed his hand
Because I felt so sorry for him Imperfect
love cast out my fear Do you see
that I was beginning to experience fear, and
I was getting all wrapped up in here
Me instead of focusing on this poor guy
That the enemy had such control in his
life You know that it could speak out
whatever they wanted to out of his mouth
And I just reached out and grabbed him
and he came to freedom Guys the Word
of God is what?
True, I hope you find it true in
your personal life Okay Why do we pray
number one God commands us to pray?
God commands us to pray God who's already
ordained the end Ordained the means to the
end and the means to the end is
prayer Psalms 2a you could write write that
down ask of me, and I will make
God said ask me.
I will make Luke 10 9 and 10
I love this one Where it is ask
seek knock?
Receive find an open am I'm just giving
you a few pair of premises Luke 18
1 We should pray always and not give
up I Mean that's just a little I'm
telling you go through the Bible and look
at prayer you want to know you want
to get The best book on prayer the
Bible is not a bad one Let me
tell you to go through and mark what
God said about prayer and the promises See
God chooses to honor our obedience Charles Spurgeon
used to say when I don't pray Coincidence
don't happen and when I pray coincidence happened.
He said wasn't that lucky you prayed because
it happened.
Yeah, I was really lucky You know the
world doesn't hardly understand, but you understand And
this is a statement, and then we can't
go into it, but John Wesley made this
statement.
He believed with all his heart He said
God does nothing but an answer to prayer
If you don't pray about it, it ain't
happening basically is what Wesley said and the
guy I quoted on this But he says
but God does Not promise to and To
act unless we seek him first, and he
may want us involved in what he does
God already knows the end doesn't he?
Is God shocked about who's in this room,
and who isn't now?
He's got you here.
God knows that and God wants you to
pray a verse that you know You know
where it says pray about everything, but let
me give you another verse you never think
of us a prayer promise I'm if you
do I'd be really surprised because I didn't
Proverbs 3 6 All by ways acknowledge him
and he will what?
Direct your paths or make your past rate.
You know that's that's praying acknowledging him.
It's praying to him and All your ways
pray to him, and you know All your
ways, you know what that means and the
Greek or Hebrew pardon me it means all
your ways real profound It means everything God
will direct your paths see prayer is for
us not God Why is it for us?
Because God promised to answer prayer and as
he answers our prayer it makes us want
to spend what more time with him In
your prayer time Share Ramos with God Bless
people that have hurt you and Bill asked
me to throw this one in pray for
the lost and pray for opportunities To witness
the church I was going to in Kansas
City I mean in suit city where we
live the pastor said pray pick out a
house Or pick out a person in your
neighborhood and start praying for them So right
across my driveway if I go out of
my driveway and I'm winter time with ice
and everything I back right up in the
driveway right across the street go down the
hill.
You can't go up the hill in ice
So there's a young guy living there.
I thought he might be a doctor I
didn't know a single guy living dreaded cost
for my I started praying for him and
Every time I pray I said Lord How
do I reach this guy?
He could sell the car and he walks
in you know and I could ring the
doorbell.
Hi, I'm the demon caster from across the
street Do you have any demons you need
casted today?
I mean, what do you do to a
stranger?
I'm not real good at You know grabbing
guy by the throat, you know, if you
die today, but you're burning now And he
said let go of me or you're going
there So I kept praying and praying and
praying and I knew that God was going
to give me an opening that I had
to look For you understand I'm is it
God's will that any should perish Was this
young doctor lived across the street mean was
he be on any?
And God didn't want her to perish.
I'm praying in the will of God and
so it took a Long time.
I'm out We have a fair in Sicily
We have sidewalks and then we have grass
in the street and often there's trees and
I'm out there pulling some weeds out of
the grass and this doctor Drives down the
hill so he has to back in his
driveway and I see him I knew his
name and I said his name.
I said man you look terrible and He's
a Jim I'd really like to talk to
you This was it, you know, I've been
praying praying praying I could always just say
hi, you know, goodbye, you know and So
he pulled the car in I walked in
he said Jim it's terrible I said what
happened he said I was I didn't know
he had been run over by a car
when he was a kid and his whole
pelvis was crushed and As a doctor, he's
having real problems of standing all the time.
He's had all kinds of surgeries But what
he did he has a dog he loves
And when he would come home Living alone,
the dog would come and wag his tail
Really excited him.
He loved this dog and he's he could
wait in line on line Whatever it's the
skates, whatever you call those things.
Anyway, he's doing that down at the eye
River They have a beautiful place where you
can skate up and down the huge, Missouri
River They spent millions of dollars and the
dog is running and he has a seizure
So the dog is having seizures He takes
the dog to veterinary clinic at the veterinary
clinic all night long.
He took this dog to veterinary clinics and
I said I feel really bad.
I said I'd like to quote a scripture
for you.
I'm putting myself on the limb.
I mean way out in the limb I
said when I was in Guatemala working with
what the Bible translators There's a verse in
the Bible.
It says that God cares for you and
the word cares mean object of concern or
matter of his care and I said I
shared that with the work of Bible translators
and a guy had just Translated this in
the Mayan dialect and this is how he
translated this verse for the Mayan Indians where
he was working at way up in the
mountains What concerns you?
Concerns God and I said I'm gonna pray
to God to heal your dog.
He got tears You really would do that.
I said yes I'm gonna pray that God
is going to heal your dog.
So he's driving down to the big Ames
Iowa where the huge Iowa University is and
they have a huge You know veterinary school
down there He's taking his dog down there
and I'm talking to God and I said
I didn't say God if you let this
dog die I'm out of here, but I
going I won't be happy I've never prayed
that God would heal a dog before but
God if you heal this dog I know
that's an opening of me sharing Christ with
this guy That is the door That you've
opened for me to get into this guy's
life and he came back and the dog
was healed and we became really good friends
and he He was a Christian, but had
kind of fallen away Accepted the Christ in
the hospital at 13 when some pastor prayed
with him when he you know When he
was run over by a car And he
said Jim, I really feel but I wanted
to go to one of your prayer things
I wanted to go to one of your
demon meetings or whatever He said I wanted
to go here you we become such good
friends, but I have to go to the
University I'm going to have to become an
anesthetist because they sit down.
They don't stand I'm not going to be
able to stand and do surgery or things
like that because of my infirmities And so
it's really neat.
I mean I had such a close relationship
With this guy because God Healed his dog.
Let me give you one more To let
you know how much faith I had We
got a call from the guy in Sioux
City, and he said my son's dying.
Can we bring him in to see you
I?
Really didn't want to sing they wanted me
to pray over him and knowing him with
oil and son's dying.
He's four years old I Said sure I
mean, how can you tell people no?
So they bring him into our office and
the boy was about four The mom sat
down the couch the boy's arm fell off
the mom is the lap and just hung
down He had no strength to pull it
up the mother had to pull the arm
And put it on his lap He looked
like he was if he wasn't dead.
I didn't know if he'd be alive when
they left the office I mean, I know
I saw a kid so close to death
They told me that he had an operable
brain cancer They flew him out to San
Francisco to them the most powerful brain child
Specialists out there, and he took you know
cut him here and took the cranium off
and looked inside And he said it was
like a blackberry ramble of the cancer It's
just all there's no way they could do
anything if they took his brain out.
He'd be dead There's no way to get
to the cancer.
It was just just a terrible mess So
they said go home and let him die.
You know that's all we can do make
it comfortable.
Let him die at home Well the mom
said God told me the boys not going
to die God's going to heal him and
God's going to use me in our office.
We're not a healing office.
We deal with demons lady I'm going oh,
no, you know So I got the oil
and I anointed the kid and we did
you know the bill quoted it remember in
James 5 We did the James 5 thing.
I I wanted everything biblically and The mom
said he's going to be healed after we
anointed him.
He looked worse I mean his face was
just white and I took the dad who
was a doctor.
I didn't know what kind of a doctor
He was I took him out in the
in the hallway, and I said what are
you going to do when the boy dies?
How much faith did you hear there?
Huh?
Did you hear a lot of faith?
Did you?
You can get up and leave if you
want to this guy got no faith Well,
I got faith over demons, but not over
healing that's not my you know thing But
I felt bad because I just want to
maybe commit suicide You know God told me
my boy's gonna live the doctor says he's
going to die the top Specialist in America
said the kids dying.
I'm looking can't you see mom?
He's dying You know, I don't know if
he'd be alive when you get him home
You know and I prayed over him anointing.
He didn't jump up and run around and
play marbles Oh, I felt awful.
I said God.
I feel awful.
I why I just don't have faith You
know I'm not gonna fake it.
Oh, I believe I believe No, I don't
believe I mean yeah, can God heal yes,
I believe God can heal But do I
know God's gonna heal that boy?
Do you understand it's one thing to know
God heals another thing to know he's gonna
heal this boy specifically got the mom said
Anyway, I lost track of them.
I kept looking for you know one.
We're gonna have the funeral at least I
could show up You know I didn't know
this family well, I went to the The
there were ten heart specialists in Sioux City
that were going through my book on the
demonic you know reclaiming surrendered ground They were
going through that book, and they I didn't
know that and they were meeting once a
week in the cart cath lab Going over
my book discussing because I thought it really
made a lot of sense So I said
this makes some it's balanced You know it's
not all spooky book where you you you
want to read it in the morning So
you're not so scared that you can't go
to sleep at night because you read the
book that kind and So I'm in there
and the doctors are introducing themselves so I
do this I did this I did this
and this guy said you remember me I
Said well, you know you look familiar But
see I don't remember you exactly so oh,
I'm the one that brought my son there
And I'm just bracing myself.
You know for the anointing and healing And
to give my condolences, and he said after
he left your office He got better and
better and better We took him out to
San Francisco.
They opened his skull up looked in he
said you know that that Cancer was only
the size of a lemon And we just
lifted it out He said kids running all
over and everything.
I can't thank you enough for praying for
him see And I relooked at scriptures.
There's three reasons why God heals He healed
because of the faith of the person Remember
the guys that dropped the guys through the
roof Remember he was a paralytic.
It wasn't the paralytics faith.
Jesus said it was what their faith that
brought him it's why he was healed and
You see that and other scriptures there It
was the faith of the person that brought
the sick person Not the sick person's faith
they healed him and then the third is
Jesus just healed anyway Well, there's no mention
of faith at all.
I'd like to go through the Bible look
at everything Everything there is about certain things
well Guys, I just want you to know
That you're on the winning team That you
have no idea If you will surrender to
the Lord the power of God that could
be in your life and not power to
be used wrongly But power to give glory
to God There are so many hurting people
out there That are looking for answers.
They're looking for reality If someone came to
you and said this prayer where'd you see?
Yeah.
Yep Would you tell me one real phenomenal
answer to prayer yet?
Now I lay me down to sleep I
didn't die before I wake, you know when
they taught me that as a kid I
learned how to beat that one.
Don't go to sleep We want to die
before you wake.
Well, we'll get three years old The death
angel will come tonight It's not an awful
prayer when you think about it Preparing kids
to die if they die in their sleep.
Oh, man, it's when they're all kids don't
have horrible nightmares But But see can you
prove that God is real?
Can you prove by a life experience that
God exists?
How can you prove it?
You believe the Bible fine But people want
more than you believe the Bible there are
people out there that believe their books, too.
I Mean, do you love the Lord enough
to blow yourself up in a car in
Iraq?
Right there were an explosive death and just
blow yourself up for your faith in Muhammad
Now I'm not telling you to blow yourself,
but you understand what I'm saying.
I Mean these people don't have the truth.
We've got the truth and there's no power
That's what Bill was talking about power we
need to see God's power he releases his
power through people Father I just pray I
Pray that these Young people would realize that
they've got to develop a prayer life They
have to have a secret place where they
go and meet with you and open their
hearts up and talk to you Allow you
to talk to them allow you to give
instructions to them about the day or whatever
Lord that they would know that the Bible
is not only true and Inspired but can
be true in their own personal life and
walk with God Father I love that song
I come to the garden alone For the
Lord walks with me the Lord talks with
me and the Lord tells me I'm his
own How precious it is to have the
Lord say Logan.
I love you Logan I got this for
you.
I want to share this with you father
I thank you, and I pray that these
young people don't have to get old To
realize what they miss for years without developing
an intimate relationship with you And I thank
you Lord for each and every young person
They didn't wander in here by mistake even
if they had to be here It was
part of your ordained thing and I pray
what Bill said when I said somehow Would
grab a hold of them and they would
want to be men and women godly men
and women That could change the world where
they live and that you would thrust them
out all over and Their lives would really
make a difference in Jesus name.
We pray amen