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So I'm reminding the reader that the issue

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is not Israel and herself, but Israel as

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a witness nation, a witness not of herself,

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of her own virtue, but a witness to

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God, not based on her own prowess and

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impressive ability, but exclusively His.

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And that finally, as this text indicates, only

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His spoken word, when all human basis for

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hope is gone.

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Remember that in text, when they themselves said,

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we are cut off, we are without hope,

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then there's a therefore, now prophesy.

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For not to know God is the God

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who speaks, and by whose word the dead

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are raised is not to know God, as

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He essentially is and must be made known.

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So such a fulfillment waits upon the painful

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exhaustion, utterly and finally, of any human ability

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to fulfill her calling.

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Good thing that's only Israel and not us,

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right?

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If you haven't had a sense of this

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and the experience of this, and how God

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allows us to spend ourselves thinking to fulfill

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our calling, and when we've been spent, and

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it has not been fulfilled, and we're totally

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emptied, then is the beginning of the fulfillment.

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No previous experience, however deep in God, prepares

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you for the next.

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In a certain sense, you're from square one,

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the very next time out, as if God

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had never come to the rescue, as if

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the whole issue of faith and confidence in

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Him has to be established for a first

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time.

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There's a trembling, a dependency that your previous

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experience and His faithfulness does not provide.

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So there's always a tension, always a trembling,

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always a being cast upon the Lord, in

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that sense.

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Okay.

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Surely the prophetic national acknowledgement in Ezekiel 37

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that we are without hope, our bones are

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dried, our hope is lost, we are cut

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off for our parts, is such a statement

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of final and ultimate despair, contrary to the

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historic well-known and inveterate optimism and indomitable

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self-sufficiency which we as Jews have again

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and again demonstrated to the world and ourselves

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impressively.

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It is on that basis, or is it

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on that basis, that we are to fulfill

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our Abrahamic calling, that in thee shall all

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the families of the earth be blessed?

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Israel's increasing failure, therefore, to establish herself as

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a righteous state, as an example to the

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Gentile nations, is a testimony to this fact.

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How long then for us to condemn her

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for the very things she's prophetically required to

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demonstrate, and that even the Holocaust did not

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suffice to elicit the cry that we are

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cut off, we are without hope, and that

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her own present proud condition testifies that Israel

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has not yet come to the acknowledgement that

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we are without hope, is expressed in her

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present mentality and mode of conduct, predicated upon

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a military self-confidence, never again the arm

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of the flesh, which unhappily invites the severity

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of gods, the severity of things that must

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yet befall the long-suffering nation.

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For us who had hoped for the progressive

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improvement of present Zionist Israel and the end

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of such suffering, there is a need to

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reassess whether such hopes have been humanistic or

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idealistic, and contrary to what we should perhaps

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rightly have understood and expected in the light

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of the whole tenor of the Scriptures that

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is adverse to man in himself.

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This has to be read, pondered, reflected upon.

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But I'm goading the Church that their own

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sanguine view, s-a-n-g-u-i

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-n-e, their own optimistic hope that Israel,

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though however unhappily is not what we had

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hoped she would be, would improve and yet

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become that, is really a projection of ourselves

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and a lack of full appreciation of what

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the whole weight of Scripture clearly establishes, that

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there is nothing to be expected in man,

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and that the whole statement of God with

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regard to man is totally adverse.

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Remember it says in the Gospel of John,

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I think chapter, the end of chapter 2,

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Jesus knew what was in man and would

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not trust himself or reveal himself unto man.

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They believed in him, for they saw the

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miracles which he did, that he would not

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commit himself unto man, for he knew what

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was in man.

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There's another A for the day.

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If you could interpret and explain what that

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means, that though they believed in him for

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the miracles which he performed and which they

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saw, he would not commit himself to them.

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He would not make that the basis for

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their knowledge of him nor of his salvation,

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because it was totally predicated on human natural

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assessment of visible demonstration of miracles, and it

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was not the revelation that comes from the

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Father.

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Remember when Peter, when Jesus said, who do

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men say that I am, who do you

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say that I am?

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And Peter said, thou art the Christ, blessed

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art thou, for flesh and blood hath not

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revealed this unto thee, not even your own

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flesh and blood, but my Father which is

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in heaven.

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We need to be as jealous as God

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in the sole and exclusive prerogative which is

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God's.

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He will entrust nothing to man on the

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basis of man.

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He has a total disregard for man in

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himself.

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Everything must come from above.

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Every good and perfect thing comes down from

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Even the best of our humanity must in

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the end show its intrinsic defect, which is

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exactly what is being demonstrated by Israel.

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The nation that was persecuted is becoming a

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persecuting nation.

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The nation that was ravaged and had been

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murdered brutally is now itself engaging in what

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seems to be indiscriminate acts of violence.

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It must be so, and that we have

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not understood that and not seen that and

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had some other expectation for Israel on the

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basis of her own virtue is a statement

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of where we ourselves are.

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It's an embarrassing statement that we have not

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understood that Israel cannot succeed on the basis

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of its own merit, let alone on that

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basis to bless all the families of the

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earth.

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Something grave and radical must happen.

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Only that which issues out of resurrection can

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bless and nothing else.

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That we have not recognized that is a

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statement very revealing, not only about our own

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understanding, but our own walk, and therefore we

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have projected on Israel what we want for

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ourselves.

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We also want to succeed without dying.

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We also want to be approved on the

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basis of what we do in our merit

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rather than what issues from God.

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We're more humanistic than we know.

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Ironically, how much more is Israel his witness

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people in their apostasy and undeservedness that he

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might be sanctified through them before the face

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of all nations when he restores her exclusively

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on the basis of his own mercy, which

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is to say what he is ultimately in

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himself.

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Remember, Moses said, show me your glory, and

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God hid him in the cleft of a

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rock and allowed his goodness to pass before

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him, his hesed, C-H-E-S-E

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-D, his loving kindness, his mercy.

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God's mercy is God, and that will be

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revealed in his restoration of that nation by

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no virtue herself, but by all virtue in

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himself.

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It is as this God that redeemed Israel

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must make him known, and this out of

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their own experience of his power and his

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faithfulness to his promises by his word and

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no other, and that word spoken not directly

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by himself, but by the very church which

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the Jew has been so long in enmity.

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Here is the Lord giving an extra twist.

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Not only the word that saves them, but

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a word that does not come from him

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directly, but the very church which Israel or

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the Jewry has historically despised and has been

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so long in enmity is God's very saving

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provision.

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The issue then is not the glorification of

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Israel, but of God.

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His own goodness prompts him to act as

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he does.

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It is as recipients of his undeserved grace

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and mercy that Israel becomes most powerfully ultimate

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witness unto him and is brought to such

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depths of broken repentance and corresponding character change

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as the world has never seen, and Jerusalem

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is made appraised in the earth.

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Can we therefore realize that a then inert

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Israel can only be called to prophetically out

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of our own experience of death and resurrection?

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Is not this death made necessary by the

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stubborn depth of intractable human pride convinced of

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its own intrinsic righteousness?

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The issue of Israel's resurrection from the dead

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becomes our own.

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It compels us to that transcendent ground by

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which we are ourselves transformed and to which

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we would not otherwise have been brought were

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it not for her.

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Israel compels us to be what we all

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along should have, but never would have, except

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by the requirement of her death.

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This perception of Israel's future is painful, but

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how much greater, though, would the pained disappointment

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be for many of an Israel that fails

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our every expectancy and brings into question even

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the truth of Scripture as we had naively

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understood it?

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I am of the God who appears now

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unable to secure Israel from unexpected calamity.

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When I went to Israel three years ago

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with this message, having been there the year

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before my first return to Israel after five

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years of absence and I have no word,

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I spoke nowhere.

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I came the next year and I spoke

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seven times this one message, three times in

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Jerusalem, some here may have been there, and

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Haifa, Tel Aviv, Tiberias, principal places, this one

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message.

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And the thing that I left with in

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my heart when I went is this, that

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the Lord wanted to save from crushing disappointment

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and the possible loss of faith those who

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naively believe that present Israel is already that

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prophetic fulfillment and would not be able to

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handle a devastation of this present nation, and

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that they begin to sound a note that

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would come into their consideration that maybe what

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they have celebrated is not the final and

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the ultimate thing, but it's necessary preliminary, and

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that God must take away the first to

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bring the second.

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Paul says that the end will not come

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until the first, a great falling away, and

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not the least of the reasons for it

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might well be a disappointment in the part

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of many charismatics and evangelicals of Israel being

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what they had hoped for.

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I mean, therefore, didn't the words say that

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they would no longer be pushed out of

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their borders and that they would remain safe

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and no more would they fear and God

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would be this?

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How then can this happen?

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That's the danger when you have misread the

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Scripture.

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How shall I say it?

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Resting the Scripture, not to your own destruction,

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but to fit your own expectation and desire,

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because you want so much to see the

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present nation succeed that you're prevented from understanding

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the Scripture as God intended that it should,

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because that understanding is too painful to consider,

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if not unthinkable.

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What it means is we're standing above the

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Word of God and imposing our own subjective

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meaning that would make it compatible with our

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own established view, rather letting the Scripture stand

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by itself and speak for itself without our

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pre-subjecting it to our own view.

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That's costly.

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So this perception of Israel's future is painful,

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but if it saves people from that kind

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of loss of faith it would be worth

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it.

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Could this be at least in part a

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factor in that last day's great falling away

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which Paul warned?

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Better to allow ourselves to be carried out

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in the spirit of the Lord from evangelical

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naivety and presumption and be put down in

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the midst of the valley, the place of

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depressing truth, and to find ourselves in opposition

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to or exempted from His purposes with Israel,

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however well-meaning our intentions.

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How much in fact must we inquire of

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our own present Christianity as a desperate keeping

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alive of what God would make desolate and

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present Israel for the projection of our own

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vain hopes?

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Nothing more calculated to make the Church wake

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from its own sleep than the deepening, intractable,

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and insoluble crisis of Israel.

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There's a purpose served in God, even for

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the Church, as to how far God will

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go with that nation.

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And if He'll not hold back calamity, how

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then will He spare us?

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And if judgment begins what then for the

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world?

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It's a whole awakening to the apocalyptic conclusion

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of the age of which Israel is the

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ringing of that bell.

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It awakens the Church from its sleep, or

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it should.

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To pray for the elimination of what now

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vexes and threatens Israel, however much humanly it

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is to be desired, is to find us

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perhaps praying ironically against the very design of

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God to obtain the death of false hope

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by which alone the prophetic and enduring glory

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is birthed.

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We might find ourselves opposing God, even in

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our best well- meaning intention, praying for

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the elimination of things that God Himself has

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established or has brought to bring Israel to

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that death.

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And we talked about this the other day.

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How then should we pray?

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There's a radical requirement now of another kind

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of prayer.

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We cannot just pray intelligent prayers or kindly

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prayers.

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We can only pray God's prayers that are

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in keeping with His purposes, that bewilder us,

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and are contrary to the kind of strategy

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we would employ.

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But how can know that?

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And how do you obtain God's prayers?

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And how do you align yourself with His

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mind and find yourself in agreement with Him?

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Because if there's no agreement with earth, there's

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no release from heaven.

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This issue of prayer is more than just

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religious politeness.

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It's critical.

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So what it shows is there requires from

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us a radical shifting of gears.

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What has sufficed in times past no longer

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is sufficient.

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We have got to come to a place

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of identification with God in prayer, and that

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corporately, that we would never have sought except

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for this requirement.

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And that coming is painful.

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To go from easy prayer and prayers that

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just rise up to our mind, to actually

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find the mind of the Lord corporately and

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to pray those prayers is a requirement radically

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of another kind.

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And for those who didn't hear me the

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other day, my favorite little maxim that I've

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made up, the quality of our prayer cannot

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exceed the quality of our relationship.

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True corporate prayer rests on true corporate relationship,

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and that requires the cross.

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Truth in any form requires dying.

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And so it's easier just to pray religiously,

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pray nicely, pray appropriately out of your intelligence,

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but that very prayer can be opposed to

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God's attention.

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So the whole issue of Israel brings a

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requirement of a radical kind to the church

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that changes it.

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How much is the prayer the statement of

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where we in fact are with God?

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You ever think of it that way?

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Spurgeon says, you can tell where a man

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is in God simply by hearing him pray

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publicly.

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Not the length of his prayer, but the

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weight and the heft of it, the substance,

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the feel, the quality of it, this speaks

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something about that man's relationship with God.

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So prayer is a remarkably significant thing and

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is pegged so much to relationship with the

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Lord and with each other, and yet God

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has bound himself and can only be released

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in proportion to the agreement on earth with

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himself in heaven.

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This could be frightening for people who have

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not moved in that dimension and don't want

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the cost of it.

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So this much at least is sure, the

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issues are too great to be prompted by

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sentiment rather than the Spirit, and that travail

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is effectual that has not its own agenda,

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but is in agreement with heaven, however much

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its own assumptions are crucified.

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That's a great statement.

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Oh, I like that.

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That must be the Lord.

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This much at least is sure, the issues

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are too great to be prompted by sentiment

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rather than the Spirit, and that travail is

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effectual, or that prayer is effectual, that has

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not its own agenda, but is in agreement

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with heaven, however much its own assumptions are

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crucified.

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There's death.

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Death first for the church before Israel, or

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there be no Israel.

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That's restored.

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Such was the obedience of the Lord himself

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when despite his own human desire, after hearing

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of the sickness of his friend Lazarus, abode

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two days still in the same place where

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he was.

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Had he acted prematurely out of his own

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human compassion to hasten to the bedside of

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his beloved friend so as to alleviate his

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suffering, he would have nullified the purposes of

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God, of the Father.

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This sickness, he said, is not unto death,

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but for the glory of God, that the

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Son of God might be glorified thereby.

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How assuredly is a prophetic mouth disqualified when

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it speaks a false word of comfort, however

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well-meaning, or even a true word prematurely.

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This line between true and false prophet is

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very thin, and you can lapse from the

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one over into the other, not just by

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speaking error, but speaking truth before the time.

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Jesus waited two days longer where he was.

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That for him, given his love for Lazarus,

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was a dying.

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To his own humane desire to alleviate the

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suffering of his friend.

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May we keep ourselves in prophetic obedience as

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sons despite the censure, c-e-n-s

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-u-r-e, the criticism, misunderstanding of others

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for our, quote, lovelessness.

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What will you be accused of if you

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wait two days longer?

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Hey, your friend is sick.

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Don't you have an obligation?

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You've healed others.

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Why shouldn't you be there?

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You're loveless.

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You're concerned only for your own skin.

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You don't want to be that close to

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Jerusalem where your life will be threatened.

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Many are going to think the worst of

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your pure obedience to God.

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Count on that.

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It's calculated to be that.

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Obedience will always be misunderstood and cannot be

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explained.

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Often you'll not understand it yourself.

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God will not explain it to you.

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How then shall you explain it to others?

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You have only to do it.

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Later the explanation might come, or in some

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cases, not in this lifetime at all.

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And you'll suffer the reproach of it through

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your entire believing life, as I have to

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do with certain obediences that I have performed

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over the course of the years.

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To this very day, men still think me

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a maverick, a man doing his own thing,

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independent, not submitted because he did this, this,

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and this, when he clearly got a note

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to take only 45 minutes to finish that

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message.

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Only they don't know that when I read

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it, my vision was blurred, and I'm sure

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it said 45 minutes.

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And I believe that to this day.

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But how will I explain that to them?

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I can't.

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I have only to suffer the reproach of

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being seen as a maverick doing his own

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thing.

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Though later on, deeply spiritual people who were

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there and heard that word said, this was

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the message of the conference, and I wasn't

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even a scheduled speaker.

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So these are the kinds of prophetic obediences

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to which we'll be called.

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And if you have no stomach to bear

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reproach, and need to be approved of men,

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you'll not wait two days longer where you

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are.

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You'll be quick to do the thing that

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men expect of you.

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Or your own humanity desires.

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Can you live with the tension of unreconciled

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suffering, knowing that God has a greater purpose

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than its alleviation?

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Namely, this is for the glory of God,

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and of the Son of God.

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That has got to be our abiding motive.

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It was His.

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And that's what it means to be a

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son.

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See, every voice is shouting at you.

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Every logical and humane thing says, go.

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Why not heal?

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When you heal Gentiles, how about your friend

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Lazarus, whom you profess to love?

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Those choruses will be deafening.

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You'll even get the dirty look of your

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own disciples.

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And against all of that tumult is the

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still, small voice of God that says, stay.

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Now, what will we hear, and to what

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will we accede, if we are not habituated

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to an obedience to that still, small voice?

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That kind of facility is not obtained in

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a day.

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It takes a lifetime to train up a

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prophetic man, a generation, many experiences that God

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will bring you through to test you on

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this very thing.

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What will you hear, and what will you

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speak?

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When every other voice is clamoring for another

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expression, and you'll be goaded and prompted by

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the full gospel businessmen to take your cue.

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Don't you guys know that?

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There's a certain way that men can kind

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of prompt you along to be one of

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the boys.

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But somehow, while you fasted and prayed for

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two days for this full gospel conference in

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Washington, D.C., before 5,000 people, you

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seemed to sense the Lord was asking you

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to speak on a eunuch for Christ's sake.

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And they wanted your testimony, because it's so

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exciting, a Jew that was an atheist and

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a Marxist saved.

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But somehow, this thing about eunuch, for Christ's

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sake, and you looked and fasted, and finally

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the night came, Saturday night, 5,000 people,

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Catherine Kuhlman in the wings, all the big

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shots in circadian, and you've been not eating,

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and there's a meal, and it's lamb, your

541
00:23:29,530 --> 00:23:34,790
favorite dish, and you turn away, and it's

542
00:23:34,790 --> 00:23:37,750
a suffering, and seek the Lord yet one

543
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:40,710
more time, and still that inner voice seems

544
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:42,430
to say, eunuch for Christ's sake.

545
00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:45,270
And then it's time to speak, and you're

546
00:23:45,270 --> 00:23:48,490
obedient to that voice, and you speak, eunuch

547
00:23:48,490 --> 00:23:49,230
for Christ's sake.

548
00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:50,810
There are eunuchs that are made, that are

549
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:52,550
born eunuchs, biological freaks.

550
00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:54,350
There are eunuchs that are made eunuchs by

551
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:56,630
men, but there are those who have made

552
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:59,770
themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of God's sake,

553
00:24:00,130 --> 00:24:02,450
and let them who have ears hear.

554
00:24:03,250 --> 00:24:04,710
And to go on and to develop that,

555
00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:07,050
only to find out later, my God, what

556
00:24:07,050 --> 00:24:07,670
did you say?

557
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:09,850
You have offended 5,000 people.

558
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:13,110
They're going haywire, and men are waiting to

559
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:14,850
stone you the moment you step down off

560
00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:17,830
the platform, and a Jewish man claiming to

561
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:19,410
be a prophet has come up to you

562
00:24:19,410 --> 00:24:20,710
and said, God has sent them to tell

563
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:23,190
you, you've misdemeanored the Lord, you've done incalculable

564
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:25,070
damage against the body of Christ, and you

565
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:26,890
need immediately to go to the microphone and

566
00:24:26,890 --> 00:24:27,790
retract your statement.

567
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,870
What an onslaught in what you thought was

568
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:31,890
a simple obedience.

569
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:35,210
Okay, can one Frenchman be right, and a

570
00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:37,710
million is wrong, and you alone have the

571
00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,350
mind of the Lord, and there's Shekerion, and

572
00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:42,890
Oral Roberts, and Catherine Coleman, you know, and

573
00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:45,430
what are you, some Jewish pipsqueak who saved

574
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:46,930
about five years, something like that?

575
00:24:47,630 --> 00:24:50,650
I'll tell you, it was horrendous.

576
00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:52,550
And then that night, I don't think Inga

577
00:24:52,550 --> 00:24:55,430
has ever recovered, you're invited as a speaker

578
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:56,670
with the others, of course, how can they

579
00:24:56,670 --> 00:25:00,690
then block you out, to the penthouse apartment

580
00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:04,010
of Dima Shekerion, and you walk into that

581
00:25:04,010 --> 00:25:07,070
room with all these personalities, and you feel

582
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,350
like a turd.

583
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:13,130
Everyone is turning their shoulder, and oh, here

584
00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:16,750
comes that loathsome guy who spoke about eunuch,

585
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:24,250
and how impolite, and you learn how to

586
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,590
bear reproach, but your wife hasn't learned it,

587
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:31,210
and she's got to bear that with you,

588
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:33,970
and she's calculated and made by God to

589
00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:36,050
be a mercy person that doesn't want to

590
00:25:36,050 --> 00:25:41,430
offend anyone, wants to make nice, and she's

591
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:44,150
married to a man who's upsetting the apple

592
00:25:44,150 --> 00:25:47,610
cart, and is antagonized to the point of

593
00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:48,850
breaking.

594
00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:50,910
In fact, Inga wept through that whole message.

595
00:25:52,170 --> 00:25:56,010
So, the School of the Prophets ain't a

596
00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:57,390
little two-and-a-half-week picnic.

597
00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:03,150
It's a real place of preparation and testing,

598
00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:06,150
and there's not a God there at your

599
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:08,430
elbow to say, don't listen to him, my

600
00:26:08,430 --> 00:26:09,890
faithful servant.

601
00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:15,290
God is silent, and allows you to get

602
00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:19,510
roasted, and skewered, and turned over in your

603
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:24,250
kishkas, and you're exiled virtually out of the

604
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,130
country, as I was, and went to Denmark,

605
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:28,610
and lived there for several months, and never

606
00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:31,190
took a meeting, but was licking my wounds

607
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:33,510
for many months, while this same so-called

608
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:36,750
Jewish prophet was sending me telegrams, and long

609
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:39,890
-distance phone calls on Jewish holidays, calling for

610
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:42,230
my repentance, and my recanting of that message

611
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:43,950
that should now be published in the full

612
00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:47,450
gospel business lens, Voice Magazine, and for all

613
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:49,730
I knew, he might be right, and where

614
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:50,290
was God?

615
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:52,430
Here's the tension.

616
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:55,050
The tension of having to speak.

617
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:56,050
The hour has struck.

618
00:26:56,890 --> 00:26:57,870
The moment has come.

619
00:26:58,390 --> 00:27:00,570
You speak what you believe is in your

620
00:27:00,570 --> 00:27:03,230
heart by the Spirit, though still and small,

621
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:06,910
and contrary to what is expected, but never

622
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:10,530
a final assurance that you were right, and

623
00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:13,270
that you may have missed it, even for

624
00:27:13,270 --> 00:27:14,110
all your fasting.

625
00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:18,710
That is the prophetic tension, and you'll never

626
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:19,530
get over it.

627
00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:22,610
You'll carry that till your final day.

628
00:27:23,170 --> 00:27:27,310
You'll never speak with a total certitude that

629
00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:30,330
there's not some possibility that however much you

630
00:27:30,330 --> 00:27:33,150
desire a pure obedience, that you may miss

631
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:33,350
it.

632
00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:35,370
What do you think last night?

633
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:40,370
Would you believe my mind battle while I'm

634
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:43,010
speaking to you, and there was some kind

635
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:45,770
of brokenness, and an effect of that word?

636
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:46,970
You know what was going through my mind?

637
00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:49,430
You've laid a trip on this people, cats.

638
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:52,850
That's not God's Word, or even God's requirement,

639
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:55,550
but there's an anointing on you in general,

640
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:58,290
and anything you would say would have an

641
00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:00,710
effect, but that doesn't make it God's Word.

642
00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:01,870
This is your thing.

643
00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:05,190
You like this little thing about commanding God,

644
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:07,690
and we've worked it up, but it's not

645
00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:10,490
His, and it's affecting this people, but it's

646
00:28:10,490 --> 00:28:11,030
not God.

647
00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:14,750
You've laid a trip on them out of

648
00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:17,830
the general power of your own personality, and

649
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:21,250
your anointing, and I have to walk home

650
00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:22,690
after that and say, Lord, was that you?

651
00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:24,150
Was that me?

652
00:28:24,290 --> 00:28:24,970
Was that you?

653
00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:25,870
Was that me?

654
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:26,710
Did I miss it there?

655
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:33,370
Prophetic obedience is dying, and yet when the

656
00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:36,090
enemy whispers, that wasn't God, that was you,

657
00:28:36,190 --> 00:28:38,490
you're laying a trip on this people, and

658
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:40,750
you're allowing the force of your personality to

659
00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:43,990
impress them with something that is credible enough

660
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:48,310
to be worth hearing, and I don't know

661
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:52,030
about you, but are we susceptible to taking

662
00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,650
the devil's thoughts into our consideration?

663
00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:56,550
Boy, we have conversations with him right and

664
00:28:56,550 --> 00:28:56,730
left.

665
00:28:57,030 --> 00:28:58,330
Yeah, boy, you're making a point to ask.

666
00:28:58,390 --> 00:28:58,730
That's true.

667
00:29:00,910 --> 00:29:03,870
And we ask God to say, don't listen.

668
00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:06,310
You know that God doesn't.

669
00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:09,530
He allows you to suffer the It's a

670
00:29:09,530 --> 00:29:12,710
baptism by fire each time, and unless it's

671
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:14,590
a suffering, is it a real word of

672
00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:14,810
God?

673
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,570
Because that suffering is a death, and it's

674
00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:18,790
the death that brings the life.

675
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:21,870
It's death that works in me, Paul said,

676
00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:22,930
and life in you.

677
00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:25,470
Whenever you're performing something from God that does

678
00:29:25,470 --> 00:29:27,710
not require a death, it's not going to

679
00:29:27,710 --> 00:29:28,130
be a life.

680
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:29,310
It'll be pleasant.

681
00:29:29,910 --> 00:29:32,290
There will be an enjoyment, but it's not

682
00:29:32,290 --> 00:29:35,550
going to be a life-giving, life-changing

683
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:38,330
thing if it does not come out of

684
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:42,290
a death again and again and again and

685
00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:42,590
again.

686
00:29:44,110 --> 00:29:46,550
Imagine a whole church that is prophetic in

687
00:29:46,550 --> 00:29:49,890
this sense, and indeed, until there will be,

688
00:29:50,270 --> 00:29:51,570
Israel will remain in her grave.

689
00:29:52,270 --> 00:29:55,490
That's why the death of the church must

690
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:57,830
precede the death and resurrection of Israel.

691
00:29:59,730 --> 00:30:02,170
A woman pastor stopped me in a message

692
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:02,850
in California.

693
00:30:03,050 --> 00:30:04,690
I was only about 15 minutes into it,

694
00:30:04,690 --> 00:30:08,290
and she's just having to step down, and

695
00:30:08,290 --> 00:30:10,090
I just moved away, and I stepped down.

696
00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:11,550
There were shrieks and howls, let him continue,

697
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:12,110
let him finish.

698
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:13,690
The Lord had given me that message on

699
00:30:13,690 --> 00:30:16,410
my knees that morning, in revelation, in prayer

700
00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:18,750
with a brother from Ben Israel, and to

701
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,650
this day, this stink and reproach has never

702
00:30:21,650 --> 00:30:22,390
been resolved.

703
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:25,750
They even accused me of planting Ben Israel

704
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:27,470
people in the audience to cry out, let

705
00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:30,290
him continue, let him continue, and then she

706
00:30:30,290 --> 00:30:33,090
said, if you knew that, and the board

707
00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:34,730
of people with her, if you knew that

708
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:36,050
you were going to be speaking a radical

709
00:30:36,050 --> 00:30:39,050
message, why didn't you submit that message in

710
00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:42,350
advance for our approval before you spoke it?

711
00:30:42,410 --> 00:30:44,330
I said, but my dear lady, I've never

712
00:30:44,330 --> 00:30:45,690
submitted a message in advance.

713
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:50,170
I mean, if you don't have sufficient confidence

714
00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:52,110
that I'm with the Lord and sent of

715
00:30:52,110 --> 00:30:54,050
Him, don't invite me, but if you invite

716
00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:55,810
me, trust that what is going to come

717
00:30:55,810 --> 00:30:56,690
is the Lord.

718
00:30:57,270 --> 00:30:58,550
Well, you should have prepared it.

719
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,790
I said, it's not the message that needs

720
00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:04,970
to be approved, it's the man, and if

721
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:06,710
the man has been submitted and his life

722
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:09,610
has been tested and overseen, then we can

723
00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:11,590
trust more readily for the message.

724
00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:13,790
So it was a real eye-opener to

725
00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:15,830
me, because who can advance?

726
00:31:15,970 --> 00:31:17,110
I don't know what I'm going to say

727
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:17,590
in advance.

728
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:20,550
That word was fresh, right off the anvil

729
00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:22,570
of God given that morning, and I did

730
00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:25,530
not know it was radical until I spoke

731
00:31:25,530 --> 00:31:25,730
it.

732
00:31:25,810 --> 00:31:27,610
I didn't know that Munich for Christ's sake

733
00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:31,430
was going to cause enormous uproar, and people

734
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:33,430
came to me and said, I hated your

735
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:35,810
word, and I want to be a grandparent.

736
00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:38,110
They thought that I was literally telling their

737
00:31:38,110 --> 00:31:42,790
children to forsake having children and living celibate

738
00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:43,110
lives.

739
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:45,150
It was a spiritual message, but they interpreted

740
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,630
it carnally, and it became for them a

741
00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:49,930
root of offense, and the Lord allowed me

742
00:31:49,930 --> 00:31:52,550
to languish in the whole heat of that

743
00:31:52,550 --> 00:31:55,310
opposition and the thought that I might be

744
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:57,290
wrong, that I might have missed the Lord.

745
00:31:57,470 --> 00:32:00,690
After all, I was still relatively young, and

746
00:32:00,690 --> 00:32:02,550
there I was in Denmark in a little

747
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:05,650
place upstairs, licking my wounds like a dog,

748
00:32:05,970 --> 00:32:07,170
saying, Lord, never again.

749
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:07,930
I'm not a preacher.

750
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:09,410
I never asked for it.

751
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:10,110
I don't want it.

752
00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:15,610
And finally, I agreed to take a series

753
00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:17,970
of meetings in Denmark, and I was reading

754
00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:22,130
Watchman Nee's trilogy on the spiritual man, somehow

755
00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:24,390
in preparation, and I came to a place

756
00:32:24,390 --> 00:32:27,590
where he's speaking about Munich for Christ's sake,

757
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:29,750
and he's quoting out of Matthew, and he's

758
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:31,830
quoting out of 1 Corinthians 7, and the

759
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:34,050
very same scriptures that I used, and then

760
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:36,190
he says, this is so sensitive, he said,

761
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:37,730
that if you miss this by the Spirit,

762
00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:40,970
it's the very heart of offense, and boom,

763
00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:44,730
the burden lifted, as if I had not

764
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:45,750
breathed for three months.

765
00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:49,590
It was a mechaya, you know?

766
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:52,670
But why did the Lord allow the burden

767
00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:55,510
to remain for three months, that I might

768
00:32:55,510 --> 00:32:58,390
have missed the Lord and done incalculable damage

769
00:32:58,390 --> 00:32:59,210
to the body of Christ?

770
00:33:00,910 --> 00:33:03,350
Because if you're going to bear the Word

771
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:06,410
of God, the real Word, you've got to

772
00:33:06,410 --> 00:33:11,310
know that it's a great responsibility, and you've

773
00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:13,050
got to go through a baptism of fire.

774
00:33:13,630 --> 00:33:15,310
You're not playing games, and you're not in

775
00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:18,870
the entertainment business, and God will not entrust

776
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:22,270
His Holy Word to casual speakers or to

777
00:33:22,270 --> 00:33:23,830
men who will make profit of it.

778
00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:27,070
There's got to be a baptism in fire,

779
00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:29,430
there's got to be multiple deaths, there's got

780
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:32,010
to be testings, and they're not cheap, they're

781
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,890
not easy, and they're not quick, and then

782
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:38,250
can God entrust His sacred words.

783
00:33:39,170 --> 00:33:42,150
How would you stand up under the accusation

784
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:48,810
of lovelessness that was unloving, or your message

785
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:49,690
is hard?

786
00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:53,330
I'm hearing that now so frequently, and really,

787
00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:54,190
I wasn't aware of that.

788
00:33:55,450 --> 00:34:00,350
Can you take the accusation that you're loveless?

789
00:34:01,030 --> 00:34:02,950
That was the very cry that I heard

790
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:05,470
in the congregation in Jerusalem when I spoke

791
00:34:05,470 --> 00:34:06,730
the Ezekiel 37 message.

792
00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:12,389
You know, you've got to have such foundations

793
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:15,830
in God that no matter what men say

794
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:19,070
of you, that somehow you're not wither under

795
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:22,790
the blast of it and come unglued and

796
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:26,130
undone, that you somehow need their approval or

797
00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:28,429
need to be seen and recognized as being

798
00:34:28,429 --> 00:34:28,710
loving.

799
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:30,610
If that's the way you're going to see

800
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,429
me as being loveless, so let it be.

801
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:37,810
Let God vindicate me, but if that's what

802
00:34:37,810 --> 00:34:39,590
I've got to suffer for speaking that word,

803
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:40,710
so be it.

804
00:34:41,590 --> 00:34:42,770
Have you come to that place?

805
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,940
And what does it take to come to

806
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:47,120
it?

807
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:52,280
The whole substance of all that we're speaking

808
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,639
in these days is simply to come to

809
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,120
the place where we allow God the free

810
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,860
right to prepare us in such ways, because

811
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:03,480
it's not for everyone.

812
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:05,200
Others can, you cannot.

813
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,860
This is only for those who are called

814
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:10,940
to the ultimate things that pertain to his

815
00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:13,420
glory, to the things that are prophetic and

816
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:17,320
apostolically true, and that preparation is the greater,

817
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,060
the more demanding, and the more painful.

818
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,980
But he will not inflict it, except that

819
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,040
we voluntarily welcome it.

820
00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:28,900
So if you want to live a Christian

821
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:32,200
life in a lesser or other place, charismatic

822
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
and evangelical, for which he'll never fault you,

823
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,300
you're quite free to live it at that

824
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:38,600
level, he'll allow you.

825
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:40,940
This is only for those who say, Lord,

826
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:41,820
whatever it takes.

827
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,200
And it takes.

828
00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:45,470
Okay.

829
00:35:46,330 --> 00:35:47,870
It's just like we're already on the subject

830
00:35:47,870 --> 00:35:50,770
of prophets, and I didn't intend that until

831
00:35:50,770 --> 00:35:51,590
tomorrow.

832
00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:56,590
So however much our non-intervening silence will

833
00:35:56,590 --> 00:36:00,490
be construed as lovelessness, ironically, it's only a

834
00:36:00,490 --> 00:36:02,290
faith that works by love that will suffice

835
00:36:02,290 --> 00:36:04,150
in that once and for all critical moment.

836
00:36:05,590 --> 00:36:08,370
Not the present love, which may be no

837
00:36:08,370 --> 00:36:11,630
more than sentiment or symbiotic identification or appeasement

838
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:14,410
for guilt, or fascination for the mystique of

839
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:17,610
Israel, but the unconditional love of very God

840
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:18,110
himself.

841
00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:21,810
I think nothing provoked a greater howl than

842
00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:24,170
my suggestion in Jerusalem that a lot of

843
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:26,770
you Christians have an identification with Israel that

844
00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:30,010
is symbiotic and subtly self-serving.

845
00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:32,850
You know what symbiotic means?

846
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:36,690
You're in a relationship by which you expend

847
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:39,370
yourself for another, but only because something is

848
00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:41,350
returned to you of a kind that is

849
00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:42,670
personally gratifying.

850
00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:46,710
That one thing, as I said last night,

851
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:49,310
disqualifies ministry as being priestly.

852
00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:51,870
And if it's not priestly, then neither can

853
00:36:51,870 --> 00:36:52,530
it be prophetic.

854
00:36:53,370 --> 00:36:56,070
How far must God's death go?

855
00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:59,570
How far must the application of the cross

856
00:36:59,570 --> 00:37:04,330
reach to touch the most subtle ligaments and

857
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:08,170
sources of subtle satisfaction that come to us

858
00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:12,570
through serving, or through identifying with the purposes

859
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:14,050
of God or with the people of God?

860
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:18,270
And until we've come to that, we have

861
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:20,930
not his unconditional love, but something lesser and

862
00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:21,190
other.

863
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:24,270
But that faith will not work except it

864
00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:25,530
works by love.

865
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:29,090
So we are called to a prophetic faith

866
00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:32,850
beyond ourselves, a love beyond ourselves, an obedience

867
00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:35,570
beyond ourselves, an agreement in unity beyond ourselves,

868
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:38,670
and being required to speak as of one

869
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:38,970
voice.

870
00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:41,110
For us to live, then, must be Christ.

871
00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:44,090
Will we wonder that the Lord enjoins Israel?

872
00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:45,770
Then you shall know that either would have

873
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:47,450
spoken it and performed it, says the Lord.

874
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:49,650
Indeed, for who is to say where such

875
00:37:49,650 --> 00:37:51,650
a son of man ends and the Lord

876
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:52,150
begins?

877
00:37:52,610 --> 00:37:55,390
So complete that fits the bride for the

878
00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:57,150
bridegroom, when you can't tell where the one

879
00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,510
ends and where the other begins.

880
00:38:00,910 --> 00:38:02,750
So here's the final summary and conclusion.

881
00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:07,510
For if he himself, as an utterly devastated

882
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:08,930
son, cut off and out of the land

883
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:12,550
of the living, and could then, as the

884
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:15,730
resurrected and glorified son, enlist the power to

885
00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:18,210
birth the church, how shall we expect less

886
00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:21,830
or other for Israel, whose glorious restoration is

887
00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:22,890
the key to the nations?

888
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:26,690
If Jesus himself was required as a son

889
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:29,790
to taste death in order to come into

890
00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:33,530
a resurrection and ascendant place to birth the

891
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:37,350
church and to forward the redemptive purposes of

892
00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,790
God, how shall we expect less of the

893
00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:42,950
son that Israel was called to be, and

894
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:44,610
that it should find a means other than

895
00:38:44,610 --> 00:38:45,270
what was his?

896
00:38:45,830 --> 00:38:48,890
It too, as the church, must come through

897
00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:50,250
the way of death and resurrection.

898
00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:51,790
But how is this affected?

899
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:54,150
The prophet is no more a spectator but

900
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:54,570
agent.

901
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:58,730
His fidelity, his faithfulness alone, releases the powers

902
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:59,710
which brings new life.

903
00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:03,010
His vision is critical to the fulfillment, all

904
00:39:03,010 --> 00:39:05,310
the more because he sees the situation at

905
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,150
its worst.

906
00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:10,010
Therefore, if he dealt with as severely as

907
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:12,130
Israel itself, for if he is to be

908
00:39:12,130 --> 00:39:14,670
as God's mouth, he must first become one

909
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:16,830
with God's heart, for out of the abundance

910
00:39:16,830 --> 00:39:18,710
of the heart alone does the mouth speak,

911
00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:22,270
and that by a willing obedience consistent with

912
00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:25,110
all past obedience and not just a final

913
00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:26,210
moment's obligation.

914
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:30,310
That obedience is itself a death to those

915
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:34,710
final inveterate prejudices and envies, insecurities that would,

916
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:36,990
for many, just as soon leave Israel in

917
00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:39,370
its grave than bring the prodigal back from

918
00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:42,050
the dead, to bask in the father's favor.

919
00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,370
For only such a death will free the

920
00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:47,190
son of man company from those final succulties

921
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:49,890
of pride and prejudice that qualify it at

922
00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:52,030
last as God's prophetic people.

923
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:54,930
Now the sticks can be joined together so

924
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:56,670
that one king shall be king over them

925
00:39:56,670 --> 00:39:58,550
all and David their prince forever.

926
00:39:59,050 --> 00:40:01,170
It is the issue of Israel alone, though

927
00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:04,110
she be oblivious to this function, that compels

928
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:07,510
the church to that ultimate faith, obedience, and

929
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:10,270
stature by which it is itself fitted for

930
00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:10,790
eternity.

931
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:13,090
Is not this the heart of that mystery

932
00:40:13,090 --> 00:40:15,850
that alone saves us from the deadly conceit

933
00:40:15,850 --> 00:40:19,170
of our own misconception as the church, apart

934
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:21,210
from Israel or substituting for Israel?

935
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:23,510
Where shall be found more to be down

936
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:25,650
to the eternal honor of God than this

937
00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:28,370
triumph over sin and death in both Israel

938
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:29,110
and the church?

939
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:32,930
The same powers of hell and darkness that

940
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,770
rushed in their characteristic fury to bring to

941
00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:37,830
death the Son of God will now again

942
00:40:37,830 --> 00:40:39,830
at the end of the age repeat their

943
00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:42,290
ineluctable logic against the whole house of Israel,

944
00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:46,090
seeking an extermination of that nation whose restoration

945
00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:47,930
is cojoined with the coming of its king

946
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:51,750
and the triumphant establishment over the nations through

947
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,450
his theocratic rule.

948
00:40:53,950 --> 00:40:56,570
The threat of that lost sway of the

949
00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:59,590
principalities and powers over the nations so enjoyed

950
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:03,110
till now accelerates and intensifies the rabid hatred

951
00:41:03,110 --> 00:41:05,750
of the deceived of the nations, both Islamic

952
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:09,410
and Western, against Israel, fulfilling the purposes of

953
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:11,470
him who is sovereign over all, and whose

954
00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:14,810
certain triumph over death by the spoken word

955
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:16,510
will be played out before the face of

956
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:18,670
all nations and that of the chosen nation

957
00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:19,230
itself.

958
00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:22,830
Thus Israel will fulfill the role which it

959
00:41:22,830 --> 00:41:26,290
had spurned or so sorely misunderstood, fulfilled ironically

960
00:41:26,290 --> 00:41:29,190
now more by its vices than its virtues

961
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:32,010
and in its failings than its successes.

962
00:41:32,610 --> 00:41:34,550
O'er the depths of the riches, both

963
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:36,590
of the wisdom and knowledge of God, how

964
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:39,290
unsearchable are his judgments and his ways past

965
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:39,950
finding out.

966
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:42,030
That's the article.

967
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:47,670
Let's pray a blessing on it and that

968
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:49,930
the Lord will imbue it with the spirit

969
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:54,510
of truth and give an ability of people

970
00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:57,590
who have not had our privilege, our preparation,

971
00:41:57,850 --> 00:42:00,670
somehow to understand by it the same things

972
00:42:00,670 --> 00:42:04,150
that require for us a background, and that

973
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:05,390
it will be a turning point that will

974
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:08,530
be pivotal in opening up whole new perspectives

975
00:42:08,530 --> 00:42:09,270
of the faith.

976
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:12,510
What the call of God is, what the

977
00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:14,610
creative word is, what the prophetic word is,

978
00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:17,390
what kind of obedience as sons it requires

979
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:20,010
and how that is to be obtained, why

980
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:22,730
the church must first know death and be

981
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:25,790
itself a resurrection phenomenon where Israel cannot be

982
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:26,710
raised from the dead.

983
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:29,690
Only a resurrection word will succeed and it

984
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:32,070
must come out from a resurrected people who

985
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:34,910
themselves have submitted to the necessary death of

986
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:37,310
their own first things.

987
00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:40,370
So Lord we just hold this up to

988
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:41,190
you, precious God.

989
00:42:42,410 --> 00:42:45,670
You've given this, my God, if I know

990
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:50,070
anything, it's a critical key of understanding not

991
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:54,370
only for Israel and her future, but the

992
00:42:54,370 --> 00:42:59,910
church, the meaning of the faith, all the

993
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:01,770
issues of the faith, my God, in a

994
00:43:01,770 --> 00:43:03,670
way that we have not been required to

995
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:05,650
see it, even what prayer means, what unity

996
00:43:05,650 --> 00:43:07,790
means, what the body of Christ means, what

997
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:08,770
prophetic means.

998
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:11,850
It's revolutionary, it's radical, it's demanding.

999
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:14,930
It raises the cross and makes it again

1000
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:16,870
central to the faith in a way that

1001
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:18,770
we have not been invited to see it

1002
00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:20,690
in all of our charismatic years.

1003
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,850
And Lord we're asking an appropriate blessing.

1004
00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:27,190
These children now can have part in the

1005
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:30,470
reward of this by their investment, by their

1006
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:35,370
participation in faith, in prayer, in intercession for

1007
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:38,350
this article in this journal that has been

1008
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:40,230
willing to publish it.

1009
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:43,690
Lord may it open doors elsewhere as Lilia

1010
00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:45,390
has hoped that now she will submit it

1011
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:48,490
in French to a French Christian publication and

1012
00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:50,690
hopefully German and that it will make its

1013
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:52,850
rounds and do its work for your church

1014
00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:55,830
in the earth among the nations everywhere.

1015
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:58,390
And let that work be done with us.

1016
00:43:59,310 --> 00:44:01,790
Lord you've spoken to us in ways I

1017
00:44:01,790 --> 00:44:04,330
didn't intend today of what it means to

1018
00:44:04,330 --> 00:44:09,250
be prophetic and obedient, what kind of a

1019
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:12,750
preparation to be bearers of your Word, let

1020
00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:15,010
alone that last and ultimate Word that saves

1021
00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:16,390
the nation out of death.

1022
00:44:17,470 --> 00:44:19,690
And we just ask you to look upon

1023
00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:21,170
us, my God, who have called us to

1024
00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:23,850
hear such things that you might have from

1025
00:44:23,850 --> 00:44:26,970
the deepest place of the truth of our

1026
00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:28,230
being, a yea and amen.

1027
00:44:29,130 --> 00:44:31,090
Lord if we didn't tell you exclusively we'd

1028
00:44:31,090 --> 00:44:32,610
tell you now whatever it takes.

1029
00:44:33,110 --> 00:44:35,110
Whatever took for aught and is taking for

1030
00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:38,290
aught must necessarily be required also of us.

1031
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:40,650
There's no shortcut and we're willing.

1032
00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:43,810
God forbid that we should enter eternity having

1033
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:47,770
missed the grandest opportunity to have been significantly

1034
00:44:47,770 --> 00:44:50,270
employed for you in your work with the

1035
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:52,990
nations and this nation that we would have

1036
00:44:52,990 --> 00:44:56,830
opted for something less and less costly but

1037
00:44:56,830 --> 00:44:59,010
we're telling you now that whatever it takes.

1038
00:44:59,510 --> 00:45:02,870
Fit us by trial, by testing, by the

1039
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:04,630
things that you'll demand, by the things that

1040
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:07,270
cannot be explained, by the dust that we

1041
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:12,330
must taste to be eminently that people of

1042
00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:15,950
the resurrection who can bear your Word for

1043
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:17,730
your Word alone is life.

1044
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:21,470
Thank you precious God for every amen to

1045
00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:22,970
that prayer you're hearing out of these children,

1046
00:45:23,110 --> 00:45:23,810
out of their hearts.

1047
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:26,990
That even today this has been for us

1048
00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:31,370
an event, something turned, something established in your

1049
00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:34,830
hearing, in your recognition that would even make

1050
00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:37,530
the powers of the air to tremble.

1051
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:40,850
Lord I ask a release of prophetic men

1052
00:45:40,850 --> 00:45:44,810
and women from this congregation and from the

1053
00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:47,530
hearing of this tape to come into a

1054
00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:51,030
world desperately needing to hear the Word of

1055
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:55,310
truth uncompromisingly spoken even when it will be

1056
00:45:55,310 --> 00:45:58,730
misunderstood which by its very nature must be

1057
00:45:58,730 --> 00:46:02,050
so and yet bear it without hesitation.

1058
00:46:02,830 --> 00:46:07,610
Oh Lord come and have such sons and

1059
00:46:07,610 --> 00:46:10,510
daughters for your use in these last days.

1060
00:46:10,910 --> 00:46:14,070
We bless you for the privilege of being

1061
00:46:14,070 --> 00:46:18,090
such and welcome from your hand every preparation

1062
00:46:18,090 --> 00:46:21,510
required that only you can give and you'll

1063
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:22,850
not hear us whimper once.

1064
00:46:24,030 --> 00:46:25,770
Thank you Lord for the high calling in

1065
00:46:25,770 --> 00:46:29,590
Christ Jesus which we affirm again today and

1066
00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:33,750
say yes Lord with gratitude it's ours in

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Jesus name.
