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Welcome to From the Pulpit in Classic Sermons.

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Each week we bring you a different message

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from some of history's greatest speakers in the

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Christian faith.

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And powerful sermons from modern preachers too.

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This week we have Francis Chan with his

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message, Lukewarm and Loving It.

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You know, sometimes we'll look at another place

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and we'll go, ah, it's weird that they

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live that way.

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No, it's weird that we live this way.

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We're the weird ones.

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You know, you guys, some of you could

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probably go, oh, it's weird, our pastor's Chinese.

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No, it's weird that you're not.

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You know, sometimes it's like we get into

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this world where we just think...

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I mean, you guys are.

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You know, we get into this world where

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we just think, gosh, you know, the way

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they live is so strange.

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No, the way we live is so strange.

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I mean, isn't that crazy that if there

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were a hundred people in the room and

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you've got your computer and your internet connection,

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you know, they would just look at you

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like, whoa, you're one of the three people

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that has all of that?

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Two dollars a day over half of the

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world?

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Here's two dollars.

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Two dollars.

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I want to show you something.

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Look at you.

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Did you see that?

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They just kind of go, I don't want

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that one dollar bill to touch me.

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They just throw it back.

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There's probably a couple more on the ground

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from the last two services.

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No one's reaching for it.

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You know, I guarantee you no one's going

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to leave here today and call their friends

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and go, no way, Francis threw out two

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dollars.

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But do you understand that the majority, the

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majority of the world would look at what

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I just did and think that is crazy.

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Most people would go, I can't believe he

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just did that.

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And no one even reached for it.

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Fifty-three out of a hundred live on

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that per day.

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Now maybe if I threw out two $100

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bills, maybe someone might have reached out a

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hand because that's more like a day's wage

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for us, right?

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You know, $200 a day, you know, you

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make about four grand a month.

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That's about a day's wage.

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Now isn't that weird?

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I mean, how does that hit you to

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think that you make 100 times, 100, 100

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times the amount of what the average person

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on this planet makes.

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That over half of the people, you make

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100 times what they make if you make

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four grand a month.

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I don't know if that's weird or it's

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weirder that you don't think you're rich.

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You know how everyone else in the world

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would look at this, they would just go,

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no way.

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Do you know how strange it is to

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the rest of the world?

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Imagine if you're one of those 53 out

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of the 100 and you look at some

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people that are making 100 times what you

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make and you hear them complain about money.

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You guys, have you ever stopped to think

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how the rest of the world looks at

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us?

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We are so weird.

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We are so filthy, filthy, filthy rich.

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And yet most of you would say that

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you're not.

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And I'm hoping to change that today.

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I'm hoping you can walk out of this

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room like I do and go, man, I

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am just loaded.

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I am just absolutely rich beyond imagination.

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You know, because that's the way the rest

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of the world looks at me.

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And we've got to accept it.

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We're rich.

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That's my point.

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You don't like to think of yourself as

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rich, but you are so rich.

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And yet some of you would call yourself

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broke and the rest of the world would

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just look at you and go, man, what

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an idiot.

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You're stressed out about money.

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You're stressed out about 30 years from now.

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The point is you're rich.

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I'm rich.

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And that puts us at a very serious

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disadvantage spiritually.

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What the Bible says, what Jesus says is

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you're rich, and that's a huge disadvantage for

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you.

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Jesus says it is so hard for the

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rich to enter the kingdom of God.

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See, we thought riches were this great advantage.

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Oh, it's so cool because look at all

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I have.

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All those poor people over there.

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And Jesus goes, ooh, you're at such a

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disadvantage because you're rich.

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It is so hard for the rich to

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enter the kingdom of heaven.

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You know how hard it is?

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You know, people have said, you know, Francis,

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you're always talking about the poor over there

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and caring for them.

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Don't you care about the people that are

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spiritually poor?

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And I go, yeah, that's why I'm in

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Simi Valley.

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Not only we're the richest people in the

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world, but you talk about security.

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Let's live in the safest city in the

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world, too.

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Who do you think on this planet, I

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think the toughest people to reach are right

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here in this room.

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The richest, safest, secure people on this planet.

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Jesus says in Luke chapter 18 where he

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says it's hard.

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You guys, we in this room, we're at

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a serious disadvantage.

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Luke chapter 18, he talks to a person

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who has wealth.

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He talks to one of us.

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Luke 18 verse 18, a certain ruler asked

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him, good teacher, what must I do to

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inherit eternal life?

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Okay, so there's this rich man who wanted

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to go to heaven, right?

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That's us.

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That's why you're in this room, right?

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You're a rich person that wants to go

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to heaven.

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That's what we have in this room.

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That's what we have in the satellite room.

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The satellite room, we have rich people who

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want to go to heaven and they're always

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late for church.

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I'm kidding you guys.

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I know some of you guys go in

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there to make room here and thank you

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for that.

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The rest of you, you're just late.

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Luke 18, here's a rich young ruler, comes

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to God and comes to Jesus.

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Good teacher, what must I do to inherit

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eternal life?

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Verse 19, why do you call me good,

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Jesus answered.

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No one's good except God alone.

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You know the commandments.

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Don't commit adultery.

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Don't murder.

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Don't steal.

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Don't give false testimony.

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Honor your father and mother.

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Verse 21, all these I've kept since I

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was a boy.

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When Jesus heard this, he said to him,

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You still lack one thing.

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Sell everything you have and give to the

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poor and you will have treasure in heaven.

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Then come follow me.

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When he heard this, he became very sad

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because he was a man of great wealth.

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Jesus looked at him and said, How hard

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it is for the rich to enter the

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kingdom of God.

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Indeed, it's easier for a camel to go

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through the eye of a needle than for

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a rich man to enter the kingdom of

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God.

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Those who heard this ask, who then can

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be saved?

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And Jesus replied, What's impossible with man is

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possible with God.

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God tells this rich man, just sell everything

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you have.

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Give to the poor.

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And the guy's like, And he just went

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away sad.

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He couldn't do it.

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And Jesus goes, Oh, it's so hard.

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It's so hard when you're rich to enter

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the kingdom of heaven because you actually think

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your riches are worth something.

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And like, I don't know if I could

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give them up because you just get so

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clouded.

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It's so hard.

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He goes, It'd be easier for me to

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cram a camel into the eye of a

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needle than it is to get a rich

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man into the kingdom of God.

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Man, I've been studying this passage for 20

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years.

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Man, I've read this backwards.

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I've heard so many sermons on it explaining

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every piece of this or that.

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After 20 years of studying, I'm just going,

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You know what?

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I know what this means now.

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I finally figured out what Jesus was trying

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to say when he says it's hard for

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the rich to enter the kingdom of God.

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You see, what Jesus was really trying to

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say was that it's hard for the rich

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to enter the kingdom of God.

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I'm convinced of that.

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You see, we sometimes, we dissect the passage

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so much that we're just blinded to what

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it's obviously saying.

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You just look at the rich guy going,

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Man, it's so hard.

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Do you understand?

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This is one of the hardest places in

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the world to tell people about Jesus, for

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them to get it because we're so rich

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and so comfortable.

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And he says, It's impossible.

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He goes, You know what?

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It's impossible.

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It's impossible for the rich to get into

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heaven.

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That's how hard it is.

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He goes, But with God, it is possible.

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It's impossible from a human level, but it

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can happen.

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It can happen.

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That's why I'm here.

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I go, You know what?

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It's not going to be easy.

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It's not going to be probable.

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But by the power of God, some of

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you could go to heaven.

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You see, because if you keep reading, you

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know, then the disciples go, Well, we left

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everything.

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Verse 29.

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Verse 28.

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We left all we had to follow you.

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And Jesus says, I tell you the truth.

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No one who's left his home, wife, brother,

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sisters, parents, children for the sake of the

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kingdom will fail to receive many times as

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much in this age and in the age

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to come.

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You keep reading.

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Jesus predicts his death and he gives the

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blind beggar his sight.

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And then in chapter 19, what happens?

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Look at the story.

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Very important.

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Chapter 19, verse 1.

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Jesus entered Jericho and he's passing through and

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a man was there by the name of

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Zacchaeus.

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He was a chief tax collector and was

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wealthy.

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He wanted to see who Jesus was.

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Being a short man, he couldn't because of

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the crowd.

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So he ran ahead, climbed up a sycamore

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fig tree to see him since Jesus was

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coming that way.

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Remember the story?

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And then when Jesus reached his spot, he

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looked up and said to him, Zacchaeus, come

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down immediately.

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I must stay at your house today.

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So he came down at once, welcomed him

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gladly.

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And all the people saw this and began

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to mutter, he's gone to be the guest

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of a sinner.

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But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the

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Lord, Look Lord, here and now, I give

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half of my possessions to the poor.

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And if I've cheated anybody out of anything,

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I will pay back four times the amount.

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Jesus said to him, Today, salvation has come

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to this house.

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So here's a wealthy man and what happened

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that day?

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Salvation.

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What happened that day?

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The impossible.

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A rich man jumped out of a tree

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and said, Here, take my money.

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Here, half goes to the poor and the

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rest of it, who did I rip off?

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Here, four times, whatever I ripped you off.

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I don't care about money anymore.

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Jesus just invited me in.

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Jesus wants to dine with me.

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Look Lord, you know what?

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I don't care because I found this treasure

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now so all my other stuff, it doesn't

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matter.

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I give it all away and Jesus says,

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Okay, he got it.

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See, I told you, the rich can enter

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the kingdom of heaven.

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It's near impossible, but with God, all things

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are possible.

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And it happened.

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Salvation has come to this house.

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You see, the kingdom of heaven is not

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like the rich young ruler who said, Man,

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I got my wealth.

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He's telling me to give it to the

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poor.

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I don't know, man.

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He went away sad.

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The kingdom of heaven is about a little

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man who jumps out of a tree and

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goes, Man, I don't care about my stuff.

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What is the kingdom of heaven like?

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The kingdom of heaven is like a man

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who finds a treasure in a field, right?

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And he sees this treasure.

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It's so great that he covers it back

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up and he goes, Man, let me just

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get rid of everything else I have because

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I want that field so badly.

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He doesn't have to sit there and think

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about it and go, Man, I don't know

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if it's worth it.

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It says, With great joy, you found, you

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get it, you see that the treasure is

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that great that, oh, I don't even have

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to think.

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This isn't compared.

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This isn't a, let me weigh it out,

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what's more valuable.

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With great joy, let me just sell everything

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I have and get this field.

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With great joy.

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I don't, do you ever picture Zacchaeus slowly

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climbing down the tree and going, Um, alright,

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I guess I'll give some to the poor.

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I feel kind of guilty about it anyways.

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Or if I ripped you off, I'll pay

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you back.

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He's that.

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You just picture this little Danny DeVito guy

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going, Woo, you know, just jumping and here's

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all my money, you know, here you go.

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And anyone I ripped off, I don't care

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because I've got God.

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It's like this treasure that was so great.

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See, but that's so rare.

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You see, because money does weird things to

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people.

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It just does.

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I've heard people say that many times.

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Haven't you heard that?

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Have you heard that statement?

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Have you used that statement?

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Man, money does weird things to people.

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One statement I have yet to hear in

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my lifetime.

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Money has done weird things to me.

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It's always someone else, huh?

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You guys, money has done weird things to

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us.

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Money has done very weird things to us.

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Accept it.

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See, Jesus says the thing with money is

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it gives you this this false sense of

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security.

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You start feeling safer the more you have

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rather than finding your security in God.

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The more you have, the less you're inclined

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to believe that you're needy.

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Jesus wrote these seven letters to the churches

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in the book of Revelation.

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He writes to these seven churches and one

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of them was a pretty wealthy one.

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And when I read the letter, I just

401
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go, wow, that's America.

402
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This is a letter to the church in

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America.

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It freaks me out how similar it is.

405
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A lot of you guys know exactly what

406
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:31,330
I'm talking about.

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The church in Laodicea in Revelation chapter 3,

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verse 14.

409
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It's crazy when you read this.

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You go, man, that's so us.

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And that's scary because it's not a nice

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letter.

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He says in Revelation 3, verse 14, he

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says, To the angel of the church in

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Laodicea write, These are the words of the

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Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler

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of God's creation.

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Verse 15, I know your deeds, that you're

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neither cold nor hot.

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I wish you were either one or the

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other.

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So because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor

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cold, I'm about to spit you out of

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my mouth.

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Again, I'm not going to go deep into

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the geography and tell you about the history

427
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of this and that because I think sometimes

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we miss the point of the passage by

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getting too into the details.

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And that's especially true in this passage.

431
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It's simple.

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Jesus says to this church, You're not hot.

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You're not cold.

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You're just kind of lukewarm, just kind of

435
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casual about me.

436
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:37,470
I feel like just spitting you out of

437
00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:37,870
my mouth.

438
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You make me gag.

439
00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:42,670
It's not like a hot cup of coffee.

440
00:15:42,810 --> 00:15:44,190
It's not like an iced mocha.

441
00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:46,030
You're just like this lukewarm coffee.

442
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I sip it by accident.

443
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I just, oh, that's disgusting.

444
00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:50,950
He goes, that's what I think of your

445
00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:54,390
church because you're not fired up about me.

446
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:55,810
You're not on fire.

447
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You're lukewarm.

448
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And a lot of it is because they're

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rich.

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You see it in the next verse, verse

451
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17.

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He says, You say, I'm rich.

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I've acquired wealth.

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I don't need a thing.

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00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:09,770
Somebody goes, I don't need a crutch.

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I'm doing fine.

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He goes, But you don't realize that you're

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wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, naked.

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I counsel you to buy from me gold

460
00:16:21,010 --> 00:16:22,690
refined in the fire so you can become

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rich, and white clothes to wear so you

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can cover your shameful nakedness, and salve to

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put on your eyes so you can see.

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See, this church, they were kind of laid

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back about God because they didn't feel like,

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oh, I'm depending on God.

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God, give me this day.

468
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Give me my daily bread.

469
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That's not us.

470
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When's the last time you're like, oh, God,

471
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give me something to eat today.

472
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No, it's like, I don't really need God

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for my food.

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I don't really need God for my home.

475
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I don't really need God to give me

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money for the rest.

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Because I've got my whole retirement set up.

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And I've got money to leave for my

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kids, so they don't even have to depend

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on God.

481
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None of us really need to depend on

482
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Him for our daily necessities.

483
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He goes, It creates this sense of security

484
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that suddenly you feel like you're not a

485
00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:06,829
needy person.

486
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Because no one on their right mind would

487
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look at you and say, wow, you're needy.

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Those people in Simi Valley, they're so needy.

489
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And God says, they don't get it.

490
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They really are the needy ones.

491
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They're actually the ones that in my eyes

492
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are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, naked.

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It's disgusting.

494
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Because of their view of me.

495
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Because they're not on fire.

496
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We're on fire for God right now.

497
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See, my concern is that some of you

498
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:41,550
in this room, many of you, I'm not

499
00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:43,010
judging, I'm just saying that you would probably

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say it about yourself, that you're lukewarm.

501
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If I were to ask you, okay, are

502
00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:50,080
you on fire for God right now, or

503
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,620
are you lukewarm?

504
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I think a lot of you would say

505
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you're lukewarm.

506
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What concerns me more than the fact that

507
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you're lukewarm is that some of you would

508
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say, yeah, I am lukewarm.

509
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And then you'll walk out the door and

510
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,980
you'll do nothing about it.

511
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What concerns me the most is that some

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of you are lukewarm.

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You know you're lukewarm, but you want to

514
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be lukewarm.

515
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You've planned your life out this way.

516
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You've got enough God in your life.

517
00:18:24,350 --> 00:18:26,970
It's not like you don't want to be

518
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on fire.

519
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I mean, I look at the majority of

520
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the American church, they don't want to be

521
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:34,010
on fire.

522
00:18:34,270 --> 00:18:35,690
They want a little bit of God.

523
00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:36,950
Of course they want God.

524
00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:38,470
I want a little bit of God.

525
00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:39,110
I mean, it's good.

526
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It's good for my kids.

527
00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:41,490
It's good to give them a little bit

528
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of morals.

529
00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:43,610
It's good to, you know, learn to give

530
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a little bit here and there, serve a

531
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little bit.

532
00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:47,470
But I've got enough of God.

533
00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:48,290
I don't have enough money.

534
00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:49,290
I don't have enough stuff.

535
00:18:49,330 --> 00:18:50,170
I don't have a big enough house.

536
00:18:50,290 --> 00:18:51,550
I need more of that.

537
00:18:51,610 --> 00:18:53,650
But I think I've got enough God in

538
00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:54,770
my life right now.

539
00:18:55,870 --> 00:18:56,570
And it's crazy.

540
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:58,670
Not only are you lukewarm, but that's the

541
00:18:58,670 --> 00:18:59,010
goal.

542
00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:00,590
You're lukewarm and you're loving it.

543
00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:03,050
And you hate for anyone to challenge you

544
00:19:03,050 --> 00:19:04,990
to be on fire for God.

545
00:19:06,410 --> 00:19:07,650
It's the word content here.

546
00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:11,670
It's the craziest thing.

547
00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:14,410
Do you understand this passage?

548
00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:16,830
What is lukewarm equal?

549
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:18,490
Spit out.

550
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:20,850
Well, what does spit out mean?

551
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:22,690
I mean, can you explain that?

552
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:25,550
I need to?

553
00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:28,130
What do you want?

554
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,610
I mean, it's this idea of spit out.

555
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,230
And people have asked, well, does it necessarily

556
00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:35,330
mean that if I'm lukewarm, that I'm going

557
00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:35,730
to hell?

558
00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:38,450
Because if you're spit out of His mouth,

559
00:19:38,490 --> 00:19:39,950
can you be spit out of His mouth

560
00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:41,490
and still be saved?

561
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,960
And I'm going, well, you read it.

562
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:45,800
Look at the words.

563
00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:52,120
Okay, you're wretched, pitiful, poor, blind.

564
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,260
Are these words that you normally use for

565
00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:54,660
a believer?

566
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,860
I once was blind, but now I'm blind.

567
00:20:01,580 --> 00:20:02,940
You know, no, no.

568
00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:04,840
These are people who aren't saved.

569
00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:09,040
See, because if you get it, you won't

570
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,780
be lukewarm.

571
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,000
And this isn't about work salvation.

572
00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:15,520
It's not about, okay, if I work enough,

573
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,100
then I'm suddenly on fire.

574
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,460
No, I'm saying if you get it, the

575
00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:21,120
kingdom of heaven is a person who goes,

576
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,260
whoa, you're kidding me.

577
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,660
Okay, here, here's everything.

578
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,160
I'm getting this treasure here.

579
00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:29,260
It's not about a person going, I don't

580
00:20:29,260 --> 00:20:30,320
know, that's pretty good.

581
00:20:30,660 --> 00:20:31,860
That's pretty good too.

582
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,280
I don't know what I want.

583
00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:35,460
There's God, there's the world, there's God, there's...

584
00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:36,340
I don't know.

585
00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:39,220
God says, oh, you make me want to

586
00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:39,680
gag.

587
00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,660
So you're looking at me, okay, the maker

588
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,200
of the world, and then you on this

589
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,740
little planet, you're looking at this little house

590
00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:50,660
here, this little car and going, man, I

591
00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:51,720
don't know if I can give that up

592
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,280
for retirement for a few years.

593
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,740
And you comparing me, the creator, the one

594
00:20:57,740 --> 00:20:59,920
who made the whole world, who spoke it

595
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:00,680
into existence.

596
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,500
And you're going, ooh, I don't know if

597
00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:04,820
I can give up this little thing on

598
00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:07,260
this piece of dirt for Him.

599
00:21:07,460 --> 00:21:09,020
He goes, that makes me sick.

600
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,440
You make me want to gag.

601
00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:11,860
I just want to spit you out of

602
00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:12,600
my mouth.

603
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,380
See, your riches have so blinded you that

604
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:17,580
you think this stuff is good.

605
00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:18,840
You don't see it as dung.

606
00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,440
It's a big pile of crap.

607
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,820
And you don't get it.

608
00:21:21,860 --> 00:21:23,020
You think it's actually good.

609
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:24,220
It's all this great stuff.

610
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,940
You've been blinded by it.

611
00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:27,940
He goes, and that just makes me sick.

612
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,440
God looks and He goes, man, you're comparing

613
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,400
me to this?

614
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:33,820
You're wondering if I'm valuable enough?

615
00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:36,380
Man, the kingdom of heaven is a guy

616
00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:40,940
that just goes, duh, are you kidding me?

617
00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:43,160
Let me just sell everything.

618
00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:45,300
It's about a guy that jumps out of

619
00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,580
the tree and goes, forget it.

620
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,260
I can have God.

621
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,200
He goes, but these people that are lukewarm,

622
00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:53,220
that's just repulsive.

623
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,560
That's just sick to me.

624
00:21:57,820 --> 00:22:00,980
See, my concern is that people will see

625
00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:02,920
themselves as lukewarm, because we do this in

626
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,580
church all the time.

627
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,160
Yeah, I'm lukewarm.

628
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:07,760
And then ten minutes later, you're going to

629
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,920
forget about it and move on in life.

630
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,340
And I just go, what else is there

631
00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:12,940
to think about?

632
00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,020
Okay, so you understand what lukewarm is?

633
00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:15,860
So you're going to be spit out of

634
00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:16,400
the mouth of God.

635
00:22:16,580 --> 00:22:17,460
You just go, okay.

636
00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:21,040
I go, man, you shouldn't do anything until

637
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,860
you figure out how to be on fire

638
00:22:23,860 --> 00:22:24,320
for God.

639
00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:25,980
You should be down on your face.

640
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,340
You shouldn't eat again until you come before

641
00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:31,600
God and just fast and pray, God, get

642
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,160
me on fire.

643
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,840
I'm not on fire.

644
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,120
You've got to get me on fire for

645
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:34,280
you.

646
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:35,660
I want to be in love with you.

647
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,340
I've got to see how valuable you are

648
00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:38,540
compared to all this other junk.

649
00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:40,660
You know, get me here.

650
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,540
That should be all you care about.

651
00:22:42,580 --> 00:22:44,660
Don't go to work tomorrow if you're lukewarm.

652
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,240
Man, sell your house.

653
00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:49,340
Just move.

654
00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:51,300
Do whatever it takes.

655
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,960
You can't end your life lukewarm.

656
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:55,580
Do you get that?

657
00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:00,960
I mean, why are Jesus' words so strong?

658
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080
He says in the next verse, verse 19,

659
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,740
why does He say it so harshly?

660
00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:09,120
Verse 19, I mean, those whom I love,

661
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,860
I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and

662
00:23:12,860 --> 00:23:13,360
repent.

663
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,300
Why is God saying this?

664
00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:17,380
Because I love you.

665
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,860
I don't want to spit you out of

666
00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:19,180
my mouth.

667
00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:19,700
Do you understand?

668
00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:22,440
I love you, and that's why I'm speaking

669
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,340
so harshly and I'm rebuking you.

670
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,040
He goes, and I'll discipline you too.

671
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,700
I'll have things happen in your life that

672
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:31,760
get your attention because you're lukewarm.

673
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,140
And if you end this way, I'm just

674
00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:35,000
going to spit you out of my mouth

675
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,860
because that's disgusting.

676
00:23:35,860 --> 00:23:37,020
It's repulsive to me.

677
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,880
You make me gag when you question whether

678
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,880
I'm worthy of everything and you compare me

679
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,740
to your stuff and your false security, your

680
00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:47,140
idols.

681
00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:52,070
I was trying to think about this passage

682
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:54,270
this week and say, okay, how does this

683
00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:54,790
relate?

684
00:23:55,090 --> 00:23:57,210
Because I want everything to be about love

685
00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:58,130
your neighbor as yourself.

686
00:23:59,190 --> 00:24:00,570
How does this relate to that?

687
00:24:01,590 --> 00:24:02,950
And Jesus says, I tell you this because

688
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:03,510
I love you.

689
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:08,870
And so I said, okay, what am I

690
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:10,390
supposed to say to Cornerstone Church?

691
00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:12,750
What's the most loving thing I could say

692
00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:13,710
to you this morning?

693
00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:15,190
And I thought long and hard about this.

694
00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:18,590
And it's not going to sound pretty, but

695
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:20,470
I believe it's the most loving thing I

696
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:22,410
could say to you this morning.

697
00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:32,980
I have this haunting fear that many of

698
00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:37,660
the people that attend Cornerstone Church, even if

699
00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:39,280
you've been coming for years and grew up

700
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,200
in the church or whatever else, I have

701
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
this fear that some of you, possibly many,

702
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680
many of you are going to hell.

703
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:57,350
It keeps me up at night.

704
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,820
I read the Bible and I go, man,

705
00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:04,880
the kingdom of heaven is like a guy

706
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,980
that just sold out.

707
00:25:08,420 --> 00:25:09,700
Is that what we have here?

708
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Some of you are, I know you are.

709
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,860
But I have this other fear of people

710
00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:19,280
that like being lukewarm and people that are

711
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:19,620
there.

712
00:25:20,740 --> 00:25:22,240
Do you understand the reality of what I

713
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,500
said?

714
00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:23,560
I'm talking about hell.

715
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Have you heard that word so many times

716
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,340
that you just have grown numb to it?

717
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,740
Eternal punishment.

718
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,140
And it's like, what in the world am

719
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:32,240
I doing up here then?

720
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,260
And again, I sure hope you don't see

721
00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:40,040
this as while Francis is up there judging

722
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,320
the congregation saying he's saved.

723
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:42,580
I'm not saying that.

724
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:45,500
I'm saying I'm willing to bet some of

725
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,060
you would leave this room and say it

726
00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:50,240
about yourself that you are lukewarm, meaning you're

727
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,460
going to be spit out of the mouth

728
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:53,160
of God and cast into the fires of

729
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,360
hell.

730
00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:57,870
That's all I'm saying is what you would

731
00:25:57,870 --> 00:25:58,650
say about yourself.

732
00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:01,590
And it blows me away that some of

733
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:02,750
you won't do anything.

734
00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:05,270
You see, because to me, I just go,

735
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:06,650
whatever, God.

736
00:26:07,390 --> 00:26:08,450
I've got to get this right.

737
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:11,650
Why do you think I left the church

738
00:26:11,650 --> 00:26:12,230
in June?

739
00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:16,600
You guys write these emails, oh, because you're

740
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,140
mad about this.

741
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,460
No, I told you why I left.

742
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:21,400
Because I wasn't sure about myself.

743
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,520
I don't even know if I'm a person

744
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,360
that really wants the will of God.

745
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Sometimes I get caught, what do you think,

746
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:30,320
that suddenly I'm just oblivious to all the

747
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:30,900
riches and everything?

748
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,040
I get caught, I get sucked into Simi

749
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,060
Valley of this comfort, secure, happy little Disneyland

750
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:40,660
world we live in and I get attached

751
00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:42,320
thinking this is my home, this is the

752
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,480
home.

753
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,940
And God just thinks, come on, that's not

754
00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:45,640
your house.

755
00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:48,860
I mean, I get sucked in by this

756
00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,680
awesome little family and how cute my kids

757
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,020
are and how much I love them and

758
00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:54,560
ooh, I couldn't bear to lose one.

759
00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:57,700
You know, it's like, no, God.

760
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,840
And again, I had to go, God, am

761
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,780
I lukewarm?

762
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:03,920
Am I a man that even wants your

763
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,360
will?

764
00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:06,320
I've got to be right about this.

765
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,540
Man, and I've said, God, anything, anything, because

766
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:10,780
I see the treasure now.

767
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:11,800
Just give me that.

768
00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:12,200
Give me that.

769
00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:14,100
If you have to take everything else away,

770
00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:15,280
you know what, if you have to take

771
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,740
away all my stuff, it's just stuff.

772
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:18,820
If you need to take my family away,

773
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:20,260
it's just a family.

774
00:27:22,380 --> 00:27:24,460
I'm talking about God.

775
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,700
I've got to have this.

776
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,860
And sometimes I get clouded by the riches

777
00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:32,740
and the security that we have here.

778
00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:33,880
And that's why, God, this is going to

779
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,720
be hard for you.

780
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:36,840
And I will do anything.

781
00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:37,660
I will leave.

782
00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:38,860
That's what I'm hoping.

783
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,460
I just show I'm out of here.

784
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:42,900
If I can't pull it off here, I'm

785
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:43,240
leaving.

786
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:45,280
Maybe I'm just not strong enough.

787
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,300
I'd love to think that I could be

788
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:50,060
that man here that lives in this crazy,

789
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,540
rich, safe environment and still could care less

790
00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:55,580
about all that security and have my eyes

791
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:56,260
focused on God.

792
00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:57,260
That's what I want to be.

793
00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:58,920
I'd love to be that example here.

794
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,260
But if I can't, then I'm out of

795
00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:00,460
here.

796
00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,620
I'll sell everything and just live amongst the

797
00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:03,740
poor.

798
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,960
Maybe I'm just not strong enough to really

799
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,440
have my eyes on God here.

800
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,840
But I've got to keep fixed on Him.

801
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,880
I've got to be on fire.

802
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:11,560
I'll do whatever.

803
00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:13,120
I'll jump ship.

804
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,640
I am not going down with the ship.

805
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,820
You're saying, wow, you're a terrible captain.

806
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:20,840
I'm sorry.

807
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,040
As much as I love you, I love

808
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,040
myself far more.

809
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,340
And I'm talking about my own salvation here.

810
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:28,660
And again, it's not about works.

811
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,160
It's not about earning it.

812
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:31,880
It's just, you know, you ever like when

813
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,900
someone's struggling, someone becomes a new believer, and

814
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:38,880
let's say their struggle is drinking.

815
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,680
And you just say, you know what, maybe

816
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,240
you should just get out of the bar

817
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,040
for a little while.

818
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,140
Because maybe you're just not quite strong enough

819
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:47,040
to handle it there.

820
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,780
You know, and just not wise.

821
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,780
You know, I've got a sickness.

822
00:28:51,780 --> 00:28:55,700
And it's called comfort, security, riches.

823
00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:58,480
And maybe I'm just not strong enough to

824
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,380
handle it here in the safest city in

825
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:01,800
America.

826
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,000
You know, and so maybe it's just not

827
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,100
wise for me to be there.

828
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,140
And so I've got to watch myself and

829
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:09,660
go, man, if I can't do it, because

830
00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,540
this is all that matters.

831
00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:12,980
It's everything.

832
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:18,700
I hope you're that serious about this.

833
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:23,480
Jesus says in verse 20, next verse, He

834
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,800
says, Here I am.

835
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,560
I'm standing at the door, and I'm knocking.

836
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,020
If anyone hears My voice and opens the

837
00:29:29,020 --> 00:29:30,420
door, I'll come in and eat with him

838
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:31,200
and he with Me.

839
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,500
And then verse 21, He says, To him

840
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,440
who overcomes, I'll give the right to sit

841
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,020
with Me on My throne just as I

842
00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:40,260
overcame and sat down with My Father on

843
00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:40,840
His throne.

844
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,640
He who has an ear, let him hear

845
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240
what the Spirit says to the churches.

846
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:48,320
See, Jesus says, Look, I'm knocking on the

847
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:48,520
door.

848
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,980
He goes, I'm saying this because I love

849
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:51,240
you and I don't want to spit you

850
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,580
out of My mouth.

851
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,600
I'm knocking.

852
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:53,660
I'm going, Please let me in.

853
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,100
Let me in.

854
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,860
I'm greater.

855
00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:56,180
These are greater riches.

856
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,300
Just look at the other stuff as dung.

857
00:29:58,540 --> 00:29:59,860
It's garbage compared to Me.

858
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,720
Trust Me, it's so much better here.

859
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560
He goes, Not only if you overcome, and

860
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,100
by overcome, overcome this lukewarm.

861
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,780
You see, the Bible says that there's this

862
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,020
huge road that leads to destruction.

863
00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:15,000
There's this huge lukewarm road that leads to

864
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,440
destruction.

865
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,040
It's broad.

866
00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:16,900
Everyone's going there.

867
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:18,560
He goes, But there's a few people.

868
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,020
He goes, There's also this narrow road and

869
00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,720
few people will find it.

870
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,140
Very few that are rich.

871
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,580
Very few from Simi Valley.

872
00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:29,460
Very few, but they'll find it.

873
00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:31,180
And they're going to go against the flow.

874
00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:32,040
They're going to find it.

875
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160
And if you're one of those that overcomes,

876
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,620
you know, this flow that's going this direction,

877
00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:37,240
you're going, No.

878
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,840
I see the treasure.

879
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:39,760
I see Jesus.

880
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,940
I'm going to walk to that.

881
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,320
I don't care if everyone's going, I got

882
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,240
the treasure in mind.

883
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,500
I'm going toward that.

884
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,500
He goes, If you overcome, He goes, I'll

885
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:47,680
give you the right to sit on my

886
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,360
throne with me.

887
00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:51,360
And you know what's awesome about that?

888
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400
It's in the next verse, in chapter 4.

889
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,420
He says, After this, I looked up and

890
00:30:56,420 --> 00:30:58,300
I saw this door standing open in heaven.

891
00:30:58,380 --> 00:30:59,060
What does he see there?

892
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,200
He sees the throne of God.

893
00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:03,480
We've talked about chapter 4 before.

894
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,520
Remember, John gets to go up there and

895
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,420
see the throne.

896
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,540
Do you understand the picture?

897
00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:10,900
He goes, I see the throne and there's

898
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:12,200
this being sitting on it.

899
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,380
He's glowing like diamonds and rubies.

900
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,600
It's a person.

901
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,380
It's God.

902
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
He's glowing like diamonds and rubies.

903
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,820
He's got lightning coming from his throne.

904
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,660
He's got these pillars of fire.

905
00:31:24,980 --> 00:31:28,160
There's this roaring thunder coming from this throne.

906
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:30,980
There's this big sea of glass around the

907
00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:31,240
throne.

908
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:33,940
There's these 24 men dressed in robes and

909
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,700
they're just bowing down, dropping their crowns before

910
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:37,180
the throne.

911
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,420
There's these four living creatures with eyes all

912
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,860
over their bodies and six wings looking at

913
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:46,000
the throne screaming, Holy, Holy, Holy.

914
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,480
He says, There's a hundred million angels all

915
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,580
bowing down and worshipping at the throne.

916
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:57,300
And Jesus says, If you overcome, you can

917
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:00,660
sit on that throne with me.

918
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,760
You can be on that throne if you

919
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,400
overcome.

920
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,720
If you can see that throne and go,

921
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,220
Oh, wow!

922
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,800
That or this little world down here.

923
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,820
That's why God says, you're going to look

924
00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:18,720
at all of that and then just go,

925
00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:22,460
I don't know if that makes me sick.

926
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:25,820
That just makes me sick.

927
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:28,080
It makes me want to spit you out

928
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,700
of my mouth.

929
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,200
And I will.

930
00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:34,990
Because you're trying to find this pleasure outside

931
00:32:34,990 --> 00:32:35,370
of me.

932
00:32:35,470 --> 00:32:37,210
You think these things compare to me.

933
00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:38,190
That's just repulsive.

934
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:40,110
I've shown you the throne.

935
00:32:40,910 --> 00:32:42,450
I'm saying you can sit there if you

936
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:42,830
overcome.

937
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:44,750
You can have me.

938
00:32:44,890 --> 00:32:45,790
You can dine with me.

939
00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:46,610
You can be with me.

940
00:32:46,690 --> 00:32:47,790
You can have true riches.

941
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:49,570
I'll clothe you in white robes.

942
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:51,130
You'll have it all.

943
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,940
And the Bible says, If you get it,

944
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,180
you'll say, Oh, forget all this.

945
00:32:57,340 --> 00:32:58,220
I don't even care.

946
00:33:01,290 --> 00:33:03,430
I was reading Time Magazine last week.

947
00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:04,970
Does God want you to be rich?

948
00:33:05,170 --> 00:33:05,510
Remember that?

949
00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:07,390
And if you saw Time Magazine, it's about

950
00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:09,370
all these televangelists going, Oh, God wants you

951
00:33:09,370 --> 00:33:09,790
to be rich.

952
00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:11,550
Oh, you know, all the riches are good.

953
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:12,490
You know, you've got to strive for it.

954
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:13,370
You've got to say, Give them to me.

955
00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:14,870
And it's going, You know what?

956
00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:18,730
If you've got the throne, you've got God,

957
00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:20,370
you won't care about the riches.

958
00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:22,390
It's not about being poor or rich.

959
00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:24,210
It's about, I don't care.

960
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:25,930
I don't even think about it.

961
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:29,790
If my riches are an obstacle to God,

962
00:33:29,810 --> 00:33:30,810
that's all I care about.

963
00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:34,110
Why do I want anything else?

964
00:33:35,650 --> 00:33:37,610
What else do I desire on earth?

965
00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:40,170
It's all about the throne.

966
00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:41,370
It's all about heaven.

967
00:33:42,610 --> 00:33:43,710
Are you an overcomer?

968
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:45,150
Is that you?

969
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:46,330
Have you overcome this world?

970
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,380
Here's what I want you to do.

971
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Again, I don't want this to be me

972
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,660
manipulating anyone.

973
00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:55,220
I want you to be alone with God

974
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:55,760
this morning.

975
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,140
I want to give you some time to

976
00:33:58,140 --> 00:33:58,700
pray to God.

977
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,540
Because I am not accusing any of you.

978
00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:04,840
I say I get scared about this, because

979
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,320
I don't know.

980
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:09,770
But if you go, Well, you know, just

981
00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:11,810
because I serve in a lukewarm way, and

982
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:13,570
I give in a lukewarm way, and I

983
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:15,570
pray in a lukewarm way, doesn't mean I'm

984
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:16,030
lukewarm.

985
00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:17,090
All right.

986
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,620
But you just come before God and say,

987
00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:22,179
God, am I?

988
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,159
Am I on fire for you?

989
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:26,179
Do I really see how great it is

990
00:34:26,179 --> 00:34:28,179
to know you and the riches you have

991
00:34:28,179 --> 00:34:28,600
for me?

992
00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:30,260
Or am I caught up in all this

993
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:30,580
junk?

994
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,239
I'm going to give you some time of

995
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,540
silence.

996
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:33,880
And here's some things I want you to

997
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,280
pray through.

998
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,460
I want you to ask God, first of

999
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:39,360
all, God, reveal to me the areas in

1000
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,340
my life where I'm lukewarm.

1001
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,340
Can you pray that to God and say,

1002
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,600
God, show me where I'm lukewarm?

1003
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,739
You could probably pray that, right?

1004
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,139
How about the second thing?

1005
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,420
Would you be willing to say, God, give

1006
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,900
me strength in the areas where I'm weak

1007
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:50,540
and I'm lukewarm?

1008
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:51,400
Are you willing to pray that?

1009
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,040
But here's the real question.

1010
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:55,820
How about that third one?

1011
00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:59,400
Are you willing to say, God, do whatever

1012
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,800
it takes to get me on fire for

1013
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,040
you?

1014
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Whatever.

1015
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,940
That's a scary prayer.

1016
00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:09,140
God, if you have to take everything I

1017
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:10,780
own away from me, if that's holding me

1018
00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:12,000
back, God, please take it away.

1019
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:13,780
Please, please, please, please, because I want you

1020
00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:14,220
so badly.

1021
00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:20,800
God, if it's loved ones, please, please, please,

1022
00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:23,380
just, I gotta be on fire for you.

1023
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,300
You willing to pray that?

1024
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,420
Do you see the treasure as that great?

1025
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,660
I hope so.

1026
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:30,920
Just give you some time.

1027
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,140
Just bow your head before God and just

1028
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:34,500
start asking God for those things.

1029
00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:38,780
You've been listening to the From the Pulpit

1030
00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:39,940
in Classic Sermon series.

1031
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,400
This week you heard Francis Chan with his

1032
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,060
message, Lukewarm and Loving It.

1033
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:46,280
Tune in next week to hear Alden Gannett

1034
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,940
talk about answered prayer on From the Pulpit

1035
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,260
in Classic Sermons.
