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Welcome to From the Pulpit and Classic Sermons.

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Each week we bring you a different message

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from some of history's greatest speakers in the

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Christian faith, and powerful sermons from modern preachers

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This week, we have Leonard Ravenhill with his

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message, A Man of God, Part 2.

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Young men in this country have never seen

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revival.

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They've never seen revival.

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Some meetings are gone until 2 or 3

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in the morning.

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People who won't go home, or if they

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do go home say, I can't eat, I

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can't turn on my TV, I'm so hungry

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for God, I'm so tired of my neighbor's

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going to hell.

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My daughter came home and tells me she's

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pregnant.

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My son came home, he's on drugs.

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There's all kinds of messing, even amongst believers,

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even amongst the pastors' children.

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So, we need to rediscover the value of

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a human soul.

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Well, our people need to be taught what

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repentance is, what the atonement is, what forgiveness

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is, what pardon is, what justification is, what

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the witness of this, they don't know.

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They want to kneel down, live five minutes,

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pass from death to life, and become a

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full-blown Christian.

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It can't happen.

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Jackie Bollinger was here, and we were talking

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about people being converted.

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She said, well, a man knocked at my

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door recently, and I went and I said,

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well, let's call him Bill, that wasn't his

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Oh, Bill, come in.

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No, no, Miss Jackie, I'm being a bad

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boy.

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I left you thirteen years ago.

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You took me in.

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I was a drug addict, I was a

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drunkard, I was a fighter, I was a

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bad man, and I got saved and filled

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with the Spirit and spoke in tongues, but

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then I just went to the devil.

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The devil took me.

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I left my wife and child.

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I took another woman.

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I've been in and out of prison.

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I know, I've seen your record in the

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newspaper.

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But he said, I've been wicked for almost

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thirteen years.

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I've done everything shamelessly, but three months ago,

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in my prison cell, Jesus came to me,

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and I was saved again, and he's restored

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me in avish peace, avish joy.

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But he said, Miss Jackie, I want to

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tell you that every night for the last

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three months, I've wept two to three hours

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every night.

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And she thought she would come to him.

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She said, well, Bill, you don't need to

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do that.

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Your sins run their blood.

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I'm not worried about my sins.

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What are you worried about?

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I'm worried about the fact that for thirteen

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years I've denied God the right to use

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my tongue and use my heart and use

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my mind and use my thinking, and I'm

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She said, that's the best case of repentance

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ever heard.

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Well, this one isn't just saying I did

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these lousy things, but I've denied God the

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What could I have been if I'd, what

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would Swaggart be if he hadn't messed his

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He might have been a new deliverer for

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this nation, but the devil got him.

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And now he's arrogant.

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He says, it's no business of yours.

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They tell me when he said that two

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weeks ago, the audience stood up and clapped

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and gave him a stunning ovation.

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He'll gather thousands of people living in adultery,

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and the devil really don't care.

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I just hope God spares him.

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I mean, if I were God, I'd cut

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He's had his second chance.

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Adam didn't get a second chance.

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Judas didn't get a second chance.

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Why does Swaggart expect it?

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But we're in that day now where sin

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doesn't mean much to us.

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I mean, I weep over the guy, but

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what does Jesus do?

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He's crucified the Son of God of faith.

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I was reading last night, to Martha, I

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said, darling, I don't understand this.

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In fact, I wrote to a friend at

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two o'clock this morning, where, what is

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2 Corinthians 3 says, the fire shall try

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every man's work.

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And what, not what size it is, but

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what sort it is.

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And then, but the thing that boils me

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over, maybe you fellows can help me.

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Maybe that's why the Lord sent you today.

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And I'm serious about this.

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Yeah, 1 Corinthians 3, that's right.

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1 Corinthians 3, is it?

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Verse 13.

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Yes.

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Everyone's work shall be a manifest for the

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day, shall declare it well.

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Let's put it in a nutshell.

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Dear brothers, when you and I go to

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the judgment, we're not going to have our

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passports checked.

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We're going to have our baggage checked.

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What have we been collecting all our lives?

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Well, look at verse 13.

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If any man's work shall be made manifest,

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the day shall declare it, because it will

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be revealed by fire.

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The fire shall try every man's work, what

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sort, not what size it is.

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Now, if every man's work abide, which is

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built thereon, he shall receive a reward.

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Now, look at this 15th verse.

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If any man's work shall be burned, he

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shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be

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saved by fire.

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Now, look at verse 17.

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If any man defile the temple of God,

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him shall God destroy.

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Now, what do you do?

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God's going to destroy that man.

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Did Jimmy Swigert ever think he's standing for

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5 billion people, or you and I will,

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with all the archangels there, all the apostles

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of the New Testament, all the prophets of

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the Old Testament gazing on me and God

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reads my record out?

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We've lost sight of the judgment.

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If we began every meeting in the light

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of the judgment, we'd be prostrate before the

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end of the study.

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We wouldn't think about running home to turn

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the lousy TV on.

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The early Pentecostal meetings, Brother used to go

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at 8 in the morning and stay till

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5 or 6 at night.

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They had a meal on the grounds, particularly

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in America, and then have an afternoon session,

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and an evening session at three or four

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sermons.

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I don't think we have to go to

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that, but this is, nobody's answering my question.

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Him shall God destroy.

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Not his record be destroyed, but he shall

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be destroyed.

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How can a man mix with a harlot

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when he knows his body is the temple

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of the Holy Ghost and that is all

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in his head?

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I mean, the body is the temple.

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Isn't it awesome when you think two men,

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five years ago, had the world at their

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feet.

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Jimmy Swigert got arrogant because God called him

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to evangelize the world in the first place,

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that's wrong.

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He said there's nobody to go to.

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David Wilson went to him two years before

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that mess up.

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He went to PTL two years before and

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told them, and they wouldn't listen to him.

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It's no good saying they're no friends.

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They were so arrogant, they became alone to

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themselves.

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Nobody dared correct them.

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They wouldn't listen to counsel.

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They got on a crash, as they say

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in the world, they got on a roll.

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Swigert's taking three million a week in.

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I hear he still takes in a million

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But where's the power?

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I'm not looking for a modern Elijah.

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I'm looking for a kind of a hundred

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Elijahs in different areas to come.

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We've had all the other...

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Would you respond to this passage, a scripture

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from Isaiah, in light of what you're saying?

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In Isaiah 29, verse 13, it says, Wherefore

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the Lord said, For as much as this

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people draw near me with their mouth, and

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with their lips do honor me, but have

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removed their heart far from me, and their

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fear toward me is taught by the precept

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of men.

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Their fear towards me is taught by the

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precept of men.

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It's all being watered down.

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I mean, don't fear.

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I mean, God...

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For men teaching us the precept, the fear

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of God, and not the spirit of God

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teaching us the spirit of God.

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Yeah, but, I mean, you got the...

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Again, the more I've read the last month

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of Noah, I just think I've read the

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Bible with my eyes closed before.

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He was moved with fear.

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Did he think...

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What do you think happened, dear brother?

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The first ten years after he told those

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people, he's building the ark, don't cut that

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tree down.

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Adam used to know that tree.

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What are you doing?

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Ruining the countryside?

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Cutting your trees down?

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What are you doing, all lying there?

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And he's got his family with him that

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were wonderful.

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I mean, they weren't seventeen, eighteen year old

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kids.

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They must have been a hundred years old.

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But anyhow, the fact is, after ten years,

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they say, listen you old fool, there used

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to be a man going up my gump,

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I says, an old man went up and

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down there with a white bird with his

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hands raised to heaven.

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Remember, they'd never seen a Bible, they'd never

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seen a priest, never seen an altar, never

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seen a sacrifice.

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And yet, Enoch walks up and down, doesn't

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care a hill of beans.

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And God made a hole in the sky,

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and he saw something that hasn't happened yet.

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The Lord cometh with ten thousand of his

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saints.

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We think gentle Jesus, meek and mild, is

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coming.

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Forget it.

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Everybody likes that name.

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Charles Wesley wrote it.

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What about, I wrote to a guy this,

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as I say, two o'clock, three o

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'clock this morning.

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Lo, he comes with clouds.

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When he comes, it's going to be terrible

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in his majesty.

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Nobody's going to jump on his knee or

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say, Papa, I've come to see you.

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Forget it.

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We're going to fall.

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I mean, if John fell at his feet

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as dead, and John used to lay his

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head on his bosom, what are you and

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I going to do?

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But we don't live in that realm.

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We don't live in a realm of the

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Spirit.

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We live in a realm of reason.

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And we've reasoned, oh God is a loving

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God.

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He doesn't send my judgment, but he does,

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and he's going to do.

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I think we're heading for the next, unless

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a miracle happens, we'll have a financial crash

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within three years, a bankruptcy, which may do

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something.

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But on the other hand, I don't believe

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that if we had two earthquakes, and one

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went north to south, and America's in four

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pieces, that people would repent.

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They only repent when conviction of sin comes.

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You can't deny the Holy Ghost his office,

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right?

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When he is come, he will convict of

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sin and righteousness and judgment to come.

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We don't live in that area.

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I mean, nobody expects Jesus to come today.

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They say they do, but if they do,

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he that hath this hope in him purify.

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He doesn't say when he is come, he'll

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give us 24 hours notice.

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If we're in purity, he'll call us.

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If we're in purity, he won't call us.

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When we should be like him, not an

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hour after he comes, not a day after,

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but that very moment, if I'm not walking

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in the will of God in known purity,

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I don't believe we'll be taken.

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Doesn't matter if you're the pastor of the

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biggest church in town, ten times as big

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as Billy Graham, won't make any difference.

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All our ideas are perverted anyhow.

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There's not much meekness.

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Blessed the meek, they shall inherit the earth.

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Oh dear God, where is the meekness anymore?

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Oh, we have the biggest church in town.

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We're on so many radio stations.

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Oral Roberts used to say that.

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Swaggart said it.

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So what's it got then?

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God is a jealous God.

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Paul said, for such are false apostles, deceitful

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workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

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And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed

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into an angel of light.

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Therefore, it is no great thing if his

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ministers also be transformed as the ministers of

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righteousness whose end shall be according to their

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works.

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Ministers of righteousness, but ministers of Satan.

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Don't you think that, like when you talk

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to some people about victory in the Christian,

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oh well, my righteousness is as filthy rags

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as I will get saved.

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What does John say?

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He that doeth righteousness is righteous even as

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he is righteous.

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I mean, you can't be part of this.

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I mean, there are no degrees in purity.

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There are degrees in life.

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There are no degrees in death.

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That man's dead.

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This man isn't.

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He's injured.

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He's incapacitated.

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He has a mind problem, physical.

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But you preach Christian perfection, they laugh at

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you these days.

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Purity.

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Then you're scorned.

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But it's good to say that he's hoping

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to impurify himself.

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Then Paul writes to Peter in his first

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epistle, ye have purified your hearts by faith.

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As I said to a congregation, you're just

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as spiritual as you want to be.

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All these men here only have the same

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Bible I have.

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They used it better.

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It's only 24 hours on the clock.

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I could do with a 48 hour clock

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and I'd still use it.

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Now are you clean by the word which

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I've spoken to you?

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Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his place

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by taking heed thereto according to thy word?

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Yes.

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Well, it goes on to say that very

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thing, does it?

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Thy word have I hid in my heart

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that I might not sin, not just occasionally

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get victory.

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I mean, dear God, what's the difference between

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us and others?

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Oh, tongues, Mormons speak in tongues.

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Every devout Mormon speaks in tongues.

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But they live like devils, a lot of

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them.

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There's only one thing I think the devil

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can't fake, and that's a holy life.

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He's tried to do it through monasteries.

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But going back a minute, I don't know

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if you read it, and I don't know

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if you ever read it recently, in two

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different accounts where two different men said, if

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I could now, I would start a Christian

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monastery.

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What they mean is, like the Bible school

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I went to, there were no TVs in

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those days, there were radios.

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You couldn't take a radio, you couldn't take

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an automobile.

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When you went on the campus, you stayed

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from October till Christmas.

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They went home for a few days, came

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back and stayed till Easter.

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You could go off the campus, except have

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a haircut.

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You couldn't go shopping.

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You couldn't drive a car, anything.

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There were no girls there.

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They were too distracting.

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And we were shut up.

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You came here to know the word of

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God, and they did a pretty good job.

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But now, dear God, I know a boy

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that went to ORU.

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His daddy, as an agency of cars, he

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gave him a new car, bought him a

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new typewriter, bought him new clothes, a new

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set of golf clubs, everything he had.

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And within a month, he wrapped the new

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car around a lamppost, total wreckage, called back

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and said, oh, oh, don't come home, don't

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come home.

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Mummy's bringing a new car tomorrow.

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And that's all they did, back him up

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like that.

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Oral Roberts says he has 4,000 young

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people there, full of the Holy Ghost baloney.

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How could he have 4,000 of only

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120 in the upper room?

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His people can't dance on the premises, but

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they go to other places to dance.

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Why don't there be places where they say,

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students are spending all night in prayer, in

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intercession.

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We've never been in the mess we're in

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now.

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We're nearer judgment than we've ever been in

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America and England.

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I think England, America, the modern Sodom and

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the modern Gomorrah, they never had the chances

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we have.

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They never had the Bible school, never had

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the seminar, never had all the Christian periodicals.

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How many, at this moment, how many teams

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do you think there are around America, either

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going around teaching spiritual warfare or something else?

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Every magazine you come out, we've got something

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new.

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And we're feeding jaded appetites.

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If we once had a Holy Ghost revival

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that, say, got all of a dozen out

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of a hundred men in a factory, and

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they began instead of going to lunch, they

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had a lunch, then they had a prayer

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meeting or something.

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It would soon spread, but we don't know

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that.

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And I don't know by what I read,

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we're going to do the same thing the

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next 10 years we've done.

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The last 10 years we've done nothing.

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But it's like Spurgeon said, you see there's

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a stick there and it's the most crooked

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stick you've ever seen.

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Don't argue about it, put the straight stick

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at the side of it.

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You see, the truth with our young people,

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brother, they don't know.

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They don't know what they believe.

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Like John Fred Wolf, that's one of the

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biggest Southern Baptist Church in Mobile, I preached

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there, and he's put a new building up

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since, since 4000.

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And he says, he said, we feel responsible

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for 11,000 students in this area.

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But he said, I wonder why it is.

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In their sophomore year, which is what, the

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second year that they're in college, they leave

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church.

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Well, you can guarantee those kids went to

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daily vacation Bible school, most likely went to

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a Christian camp.

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I guarantee 99, 95% have made a

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profession of Christianity.

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When they get away from home, I'm not

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going to go to church, you can play

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sports, you can go down to the CM

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Bay, you can have a walk.

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Why did they desert like that?

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I mean, why don't they have an appetite

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for God?

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But they don't.

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I mean, three weeks ago, the fellow that's

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taken up the, to be assistant of Dr.

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Criswell, he blasted Baylor University, the mess it's

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in.

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But then guys told me going to Baylor,

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it's not known any longer as a spiritual

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place.

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It's known now as a, well, it's a

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liberal arts college.

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And it's known mostly for its football team.

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But why do the kids suddenly have no

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appetite?

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When they get teenagers, get away from home,

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well, I won't have to go to church.

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My folk have made me go every time.

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There's no appetite.

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So there's no relationship with God.

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And if he spent time at the altar

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and took them through step by step, what

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it means to become a Christian.

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Your life is with Christ in God.

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You're not your own.

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You're bought with a price.

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You have no time of your own.

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You have no money of your own.

510
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You have no interest of your own.

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Christ must become a complete master.

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We don't do that.

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And unless we do, we're not going to

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have a change.

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I mean, there are people that are really

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hungry.

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There are people that meet Dave Wilkins and

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folk on the streets.

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I've never seen a Christian in my life.

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Well, what they say, the average church member

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is just like us.

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Very often they're smoking until they go in

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the meeting at last.

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And last minute when they come out, it's

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the cowboys or something.

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Where's the difference?

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And it isn't there.

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But it all comes down.

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I don't care whether it's shrug it or

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pete it out.

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It comes down.

532
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It breaks down with personal devotion to Christ.

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They quit praying.

534
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They quit reading the word of God.

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They haven't time.

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And therefore they start rotting from the inside.

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There isn't a nation big enough to destroy.

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America will destroy ourselves.

539
00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:05,960
The present rate of development in herpes and

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AIDS is appalling.

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The list, the lid hasn't been taken off

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the thing yet.

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I don't think the government dare tell us

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what's happening in the country.

545
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:18,310
It's the same in England.

546
00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:23,450
But where do God fill men?

547
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:31,170
I mean, Swaggart says the day after, he'd

548
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:31,930
been in that trouble.

549
00:19:32,290 --> 00:19:33,750
I was going to step down and let

550
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:36,290
my son take over, but I woke up

551
00:19:36,290 --> 00:19:37,230
full of the Holy Ghost.

552
00:19:37,330 --> 00:19:38,590
No, he woke up full of tongues.

553
00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:40,670
He gave his tongues and he took it.

554
00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:41,290
That's a sign.

555
00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:43,450
But the gifts and callings of God are

556
00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:44,150
without repentance.

557
00:19:44,830 --> 00:19:46,450
I see a girl wearing a big ring

558
00:19:46,450 --> 00:19:48,090
and say, well, Jack gave me that.

559
00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:50,310
I go back to the church six months

560
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:52,130
after and say, well, oh, did you get

561
00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:52,310
married?

562
00:19:52,410 --> 00:19:54,290
Oh, no, we quarreled after that.

563
00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:55,850
But you're still wearing the ring.

564
00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:58,910
Yes, well, of course, Jack's gone, but he

565
00:19:58,910 --> 00:20:00,850
left his ring by the same token.

566
00:20:01,010 --> 00:20:02,430
The Holy Ghost has gone, but he left

567
00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:03,050
his gift.

568
00:20:04,110 --> 00:20:05,990
The gifts and callings are without repentance.

569
00:20:06,850 --> 00:20:08,450
Who moved London more than Irving?

570
00:20:10,090 --> 00:20:11,650
Edward Irving in his day.

571
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:13,830
Carriages jostled each other.

572
00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:16,930
Parliament suspended so they could run out near

573
00:20:16,930 --> 00:20:17,810
this great holiday.

574
00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:20,910
Every kind of sign and wonder built that

575
00:20:20,910 --> 00:20:21,610
colossal church.

576
00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:23,890
He's then finally stood on the platform and

577
00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:25,170
said, I am the Son of God.

578
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:27,310
I've kept this veil to you, but now

579
00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:27,930
here I am.

580
00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:30,090
There's everything.

581
00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:33,830
Men call him the 13th Apostle.

582
00:20:34,590 --> 00:20:37,550
There's no questions about what happened.

583
00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:38,650
There's a whole book on him.

584
00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:39,190
I have it.

585
00:20:40,930 --> 00:20:45,200
And you've got all these amazing moves.

586
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,820
I guess you've read something of Wigglesworth.

587
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,400
Have you read John G.

588
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:51,760
Lake?

589
00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:53,500
John G.

590
00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:55,520
Lake's books are published now by Christ for

591
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,860
the Nations.

592
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,060
There's four of them.

593
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,140
Well, I'm standing here and I talk with

594
00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:02,080
Wigglesworth.

595
00:21:02,620 --> 00:21:03,620
Wigglesworth is here.

596
00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:04,360
I'm here.

597
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,660
John Lake is up there.

598
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:08,300
He talked about apostolic Christianity.

599
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,400
He had it all.

600
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,240
Beyond anything we've ever known.

601
00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:15,850
I don't think it's the only answer.

602
00:21:16,290 --> 00:21:18,410
I think the answer is when people are

603
00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:20,490
so transformed, they're no longer mean, they're no

604
00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:23,390
longer selfish, they're no longer covetous, but they

605
00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:23,910
give themselves.

606
00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:25,990
I mean, when children say something happened to

607
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:28,290
my daddy, he's been a Baptist for all

608
00:21:28,290 --> 00:21:30,710
his life, or something happened, or my daddy's

609
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:33,170
been a Methodist, or now my daddy's been

610
00:21:33,170 --> 00:21:35,230
a charismatic, but something suddenly changed.

611
00:21:35,310 --> 00:21:36,130
He's become different.

612
00:21:36,190 --> 00:21:37,010
He's Christ-like.

613
00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:39,270
He speaks gently to my mother.

614
00:21:39,850 --> 00:21:41,270
He's concerned about us.

615
00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:43,790
It isn't, well, I'm going to the World

616
00:21:43,790 --> 00:21:45,990
Series, whether you like it or not, or

617
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:48,690
I'm going to a ball game, you know,

618
00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:49,710
Super Bowl.

619
00:21:50,290 --> 00:21:53,530
And I said to these preachers, you say,

620
00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:55,050
I can't take three days off.

621
00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:56,330
I say, he took more than three days

622
00:21:56,330 --> 00:21:57,410
off to go deer hunting.

623
00:21:57,610 --> 00:21:59,170
He took three days off to go fishing.

624
00:21:59,690 --> 00:22:01,950
Why can't you pastors stand up and say

625
00:22:01,950 --> 00:22:03,510
there's going to be a meeting for pastors

626
00:22:04,050 --> 00:22:06,110
at least one day a week, or one

627
00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:08,490
night a week, and we get together, we

628
00:22:08,490 --> 00:22:11,750
evangelicals, really lay hold of God for revival

629
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:12,510
in our city.

630
00:22:14,210 --> 00:22:16,890
These kids around here will raise money to

631
00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:19,470
go to Hong Kong for three days, or

632
00:22:19,470 --> 00:22:21,430
go to South America, but when they come

633
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:22,510
back as soon as they get off the

634
00:22:22,510 --> 00:22:24,110
plane, their compassion dies.

635
00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:27,190
What are you going to do with kids

636
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:27,630
like that?

637
00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:30,170
And they'll keep doing it as long as

638
00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:31,390
we want them.

639
00:22:32,410 --> 00:22:34,010
You know, oh, we took a number of

640
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:35,810
our people from our church.

641
00:22:36,090 --> 00:22:37,390
We took them on a cruise.

642
00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:39,770
But you're touching the elite of the church

643
00:22:39,770 --> 00:22:40,330
all the time.

644
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:41,930
You've done that year after year, and the

645
00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:43,070
poor people are struggling.

646
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:45,510
If you can take six or seven days

647
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:47,150
off for a cruise, can you take six

648
00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:48,810
or seven days off for a nation that's

649
00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:49,430
going to hell?

650
00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:51,550
What do you want to do, kids lying

651
00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:52,910
in the street fornicating?

652
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:56,370
People clobbering a man on the head and

653
00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:57,290
stealing his watch.

654
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:59,890
That's sin to become before your eyes, before

655
00:22:59,890 --> 00:23:00,530
we feel.

656
00:23:02,150 --> 00:23:03,570
It's alright to say I want to be

657
00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:04,230
like Jesus.

658
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:06,370
Do I want Gethsemane?

659
00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:08,070
I've never heard a person yet, dear brother,

660
00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:09,870
and I've gone to church for 80 years.

661
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:12,250
I've heard men say I was born again,

662
00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:13,990
I went to the cross, I've had my

663
00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:16,110
upper room experience.

664
00:23:16,110 --> 00:23:18,130
I've never heard a man say I've got

665
00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:18,990
Gethsemane experience.

666
00:23:19,090 --> 00:23:19,730
I have a broken...

667
00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:21,430
My dad was the nearest of that.

668
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:24,150
My dad couldn't say grace at mealtime without

669
00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:24,770
tears.

670
00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:27,530
Right now I have invitations to seven different...

671
00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:28,350
I'm not going to one.

672
00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:30,770
I say because people say, what's happening in

673
00:23:30,770 --> 00:23:31,070
America?

674
00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:33,110
I can't say there's a revival anywhere I

675
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:33,310
know.

676
00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:34,650
I say, do you think I'm going to

677
00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:36,690
talk about the Holy Ghost revival when we're

678
00:23:36,690 --> 00:23:39,270
dying and doomed and damned here, and we're

679
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:40,570
running into worse trouble?

680
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:42,210
Well, it's in the scriptures.

681
00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:43,630
What does God say?

682
00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:45,350
I can't give you glory because you honor

683
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:45,930
one another.

684
00:23:47,030 --> 00:23:48,770
That's one of the biggest sentences we have.

685
00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:52,710
Like John Wimbledon, once he eulogized me and

686
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:53,990
I said, if you do, I'll walk off

687
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:54,650
the platform.

688
00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:57,930
Well, I went to say, well, first of

689
00:23:57,930 --> 00:24:00,350
all, we talked about revival.

690
00:24:00,430 --> 00:24:02,110
He said, well, you told Bickle that in

691
00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:03,630
revival you don't make altar calls.

692
00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:04,170
I said, you don't?

693
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:05,370
He said, I've never been in a meeting

694
00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:05,930
like that.

695
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:08,350
So I said, when we come, I said,

696
00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:10,310
let our David speak an hour before I

697
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:10,770
do an hour.

698
00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:12,050
Our David's free now.

699
00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:13,730
He's pulled out from a church.

700
00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:14,630
He's free to go anywhere.

701
00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:17,430
I said, so David preached an hour.

702
00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:19,170
We had a 15 minute break and I

703
00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:20,390
preached for an hour and a half.

704
00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:22,390
And while I was preaching, the whole audience

705
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:22,810
broke up.

706
00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:24,330
They came in hundreds to the front and

707
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:27,790
wept and groaned and cried out audibly, make

708
00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:29,270
me clean, purify me.

709
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:31,610
And that happened six days.

710
00:24:31,710 --> 00:24:34,130
We never had three one week and three

711
00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:34,490
the next.

712
00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:35,750
We never had an altar call.

713
00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:36,390
We didn't have to.

714
00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:38,490
They came to the altar and stayed not

715
00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:41,910
five minutes, two and three hours calling on

716
00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:42,230
God.

717
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:46,500
You read Luke chapter three, what does it

718
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:46,760
say?

719
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160
John was preaching and the people cried out,

720
00:24:50,380 --> 00:24:50,800
what shall we do?

721
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,500
And the soldiers cried out, what shall we

722
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:52,680
do?

723
00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:55,460
And the publicans cried out, dear God, when

724
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:58,300
heathen men start crying out, what shall we

725
00:24:58,300 --> 00:24:58,480
do?

726
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,460
You know God's there.

727
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,200
There's no pleading altar call.

728
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,280
No, what did they say on the day

729
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,940
of Pentecost?

730
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,220
Men and brethren, what shall we do?

731
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,660
We're panicking.

732
00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:11,360
The altar doesn't mean anything to people.

733
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:12,700
Now they come out every week.

734
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,520
We're romanizing our protestants.

735
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,440
Oh, get your sins forgiven, go back and

736
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,720
do the same lousy thing.

737
00:25:18,460 --> 00:25:19,260
It's ridiculous.

738
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,640
You don't do that if you go to

739
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,060
death.

740
00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:25,640
When you die to self, you die to

741
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,540
business promotion, you die to ambition, you lay

742
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:30,100
it all out and say, we mean this

743
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,340
with bits like God go on record, put

744
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:33,000
us on record.

745
00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:35,780
We're not going to do anything unless we

746
00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:36,160
get there.

747
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,380
We've had, what did we have not long

748
00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:40,600
ago?

749
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,420
Do you remember A.

750
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:41,580
A.

751
00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:41,780
Allen?

752
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:43,800
A.

753
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:43,960
A.

754
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,200
Allen used to have meetings.

755
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,780
You get 500 come forward on the way

756
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,440
home to his hotel.

757
00:25:49,660 --> 00:25:51,480
He phoned his call girl and she met

758
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:51,880
him there.

759
00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:56,320
He died with liquor bottles, whiskey bottles all

760
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,960
around his room.

761
00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:59,320
There's a whole bunch of men done that.

762
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,960
You don't find anything like that amongst the

763
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,760
old fashioned revivalists, true revivalists.

764
00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:10,340
That's why I write to read the book

765
00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:15,460
like this one on the accounts of revival.

766
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:17,520
I mean, it's something we don't know a

767
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,280
thing about, dear God, piteous.

768
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:21,800
We say we have the same Bible, the

769
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,440
same Holy Ghost.

770
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,780
Why do we get the same results?

771
00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:26,740
The menace of many of our meetings is

772
00:26:26,740 --> 00:26:28,720
we try to get people saved, they don't

773
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,360
know their loss.

774
00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:31,700
Come forward, the Lord loves you, the Lord

775
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:33,220
loves you, the Lord hates you.

776
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,900
Why do we put a bumper sticker, God

777
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:38,320
loves you?

778
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,700
God is angry with the wicked every day.

779
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:42,580
Or the wicked should be turned into hell,

780
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,540
we'd soon be in trouble.

781
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:44,420
A.

782
00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:45,560
Rules make a market sin.

783
00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:45,720
A.

784
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,980
But we don't do that, we don't even

785
00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:47,580
preach it.

786
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:54,860
But I know there's a hunger across America

787
00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:56,420
by the phone calls I get.

788
00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:00,520
Guys are coming to a stone wall now.

789
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,620
There isn't a church in this town that's

790
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:06,040
having a move of God, they say.

791
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:09,760
I'll pray till the rains get together.

792
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:27,340
The prophet Amos said, Behold the days saith

793
00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:29,500
the Lord, the days come saith the Lord

794
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:30,820
that I will send a famine in the

795
00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:31,040
land.

796
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,480
Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst

797
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,020
for water, but of hearing the words of

798
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:39,400
the Lord.

799
00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:43,520
And they shall wander from sea to sea,

800
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,460
and from the north even to the east

801
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:48,140
they shall run to and fro to seek

802
00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:49,700
the word of the Lord, and shall not

803
00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:50,320
find it.

804
00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:59,270
Is that literally like no Bibles or is

805
00:27:59,270 --> 00:28:01,130
it that the word isn't a living word?

806
00:28:01,270 --> 00:28:02,590
It doesn't, I mean, you can read it.

807
00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:04,470
I go and hear a fellow and he

808
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:06,990
preaches, there's no passion, there's no tears, there's

809
00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:10,290
no, you know, I'd rather write Richard Baxter,

810
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:12,790
I preached as if to never preach again,

811
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:14,470
and as a dying man to dying men.

812
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:16,790
You know, you think these fellows are professional,

813
00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:18,790
he gets paid, and when he steps out

814
00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:21,110
of the pulpit he says, Hey John, what

815
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:23,270
about a round of golf on Wednesday or

816
00:28:23,270 --> 00:28:23,610
Thursday?

817
00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:26,410
And immediately they switch from the spiritual and

818
00:28:26,410 --> 00:28:29,550
the eternal to some stupid thing.

819
00:28:30,690 --> 00:28:33,030
I wouldn't take any notice of them anyhow.

820
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:35,830
I'd say, Pastor, live it, live it, live

821
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:36,050
it.

822
00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:38,190
Don't tell me to pray, meet with me

823
00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:38,870
in the church.

824
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:41,690
When I got saved, and then after I

825
00:28:41,690 --> 00:28:44,110
trusted Dr. Sanctify, because there's a blank in

826
00:28:44,110 --> 00:28:46,050
my life, and first thing I went to

827
00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:47,750
the pastor and said, Pastor, I want a

828
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:50,170
prayer meeting on Wednesday night, on Friday night

829
00:28:50,170 --> 00:28:50,930
for the young people.

830
00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:52,590
Oh well, it's not good for young people

831
00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:54,410
to meet together, so you come and supervise

832
00:28:54,410 --> 00:28:55,490
if you think we're going to fool around.

833
00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:57,930
So we started a prayer meeting on Friday

834
00:28:57,930 --> 00:28:59,990
night at seven, and we prayed till nine.

835
00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:01,850
I started a prayer meeting at seven Sunday

836
00:29:01,850 --> 00:29:04,370
morning and I lived outside the boundary of

837
00:29:04,370 --> 00:29:04,590
town.

838
00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:06,790
I walked to the prayer meeting, walked home

839
00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:08,990
for breakfast, walked home for the morning service,

840
00:29:09,150 --> 00:29:11,370
walked home for lunch, walked back for the

841
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:14,230
afternoon service, walked home for supper, walked for

842
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:17,250
the night service, and God began to move

843
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:19,130
and people in the neighborhood got saved that

844
00:29:19,130 --> 00:29:22,610
had never happened before.

845
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:26,050
But, you see, once you've been in that,

846
00:29:26,170 --> 00:29:33,280
it's like, like, I say, not Colonel Bringle,

847
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:38,800
but Major Thomas said, no, Major Russell, that

848
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,400
once he got back in the fire of

849
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,400
the Welsh Revival, everything he didn't burn, he

850
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,440
got on the train and going home, he

851
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,320
couldn't get back to London quick enough to

852
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,580
tell that the Holy Ghost had fallen, and

853
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,280
then, I mean, the first greatest revival in

854
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,360
England was the Western Revival, that went to

855
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,300
90, no, the Western Revival, and then the

856
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:00,540
next one was the Salvation Army, which they

857
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:03,580
went into 70 countries in 90 years, not

858
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,180
70, but 70 countries.

859
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,420
Dear God, they had the most amazing night

860
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:11,400
prayer meetings and training students and getting down

861
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,700
to the Bible and prayer, and every week

862
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,140
they were taking to a night of prayer,

863
00:30:15,220 --> 00:30:17,100
they were taking to street meetings somewhere in

864
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,240
London, they were meeting sin head on, and

865
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,040
visiting taverns, talking to harlots, which nobody does

866
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,280
now, except just about Dave Wilson and Tim

867
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,940
Delaney down in the Motor City there, doing

868
00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:30,700
the same thing.

869
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,280
But we're all sitting inside, I said, John,

870
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760
why do you sit inside a four wall

871
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680
singing, let the earth hear his voice, it

872
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,600
doesn't make sense.

873
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:43,240
Let the earth hear his voice, get out,

874
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,500
stand on a box, call a man to

875
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:47,860
witness, call a woman to witness, sing a

876
00:30:47,860 --> 00:30:50,360
hymn, you can't preach very much to crowds,

877
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,700
but before long, you say we're going to

878
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,060
be here every Saturday night for the next

879
00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:59,840
winter or summer, and they come with expectations,

880
00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,920
they plan the shopping, like people used to

881
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,960
do with us, they planned to come shopping

882
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240
on Friday night and Saturday night, because we're

883
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,120
in the town square, and we didn't miss

884
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,940
for three years.

885
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:12,400
And our young people came, you didn't have

886
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,780
to whip them, they came eagerly, to give

887
00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:15,800
them a chance to witness.

888
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,120
I said, if anybody stands on this box

889
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,540
who isn't telling the truth, you interrupt them,

890
00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:22,060
because I'm the leader, and I said, I'll

891
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:22,660
check on them.

892
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:24,960
Don't let a man talk when he's not

893
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,300
walking it, if he's walking it, if the

894
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,700
man is in your factory, your office, if

895
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:32,760
they're not telling the truth, come and tell

896
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,320
me, you know, chase them off.

897
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Well, we didn't need to advertise in the

898
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,460
paper, dear God, I was the best known

899
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:42,900
man in town, even though the cathedral was

900
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:47,520
only 300 yards away from us, magnificent cathedral.

901
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:50,540
I only got 500 on Sunday night, they

902
00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:52,480
stood outside and lined up like a movie

903
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,840
house, but the cathedral got 50.

904
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:57,020
So where do you go?

905
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,420
I mean, the cathedral is ornate, it had

906
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:05,140
gold plates on the gold communion things and

907
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,660
candlesticks on the altar, it was like a

908
00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:10,440
miniature Westwind Stravage, stained glass windows, but what

909
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,700
is that to the glory of God?

910
00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:14,380
I mean, our place was packed an hour

911
00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:15,160
before time.

912
00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:17,700
Our prayer meetings were packed.

913
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
We had three prayer meetings a week and

914
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,640
three street meetings, and that's why that church

915
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720
kept in continuous revival for the three years

916
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,400
I was there.

917
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,540
And it's still there today.

918
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:34,110
Well, brethren, what I want to say is

919
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:37,150
that either the Bible is absolute or obsolete,

920
00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:37,970
which is it?

921
00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:41,210
Is God all he says he is?

922
00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:43,290
Is Hebrews 11, 6 what we need to

923
00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:43,810
rediscover?

924
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:45,830
He that cometh to God must believe that

925
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:46,350
he is.

926
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:48,490
What does it matter about Swaggart and all

927
00:32:48,490 --> 00:32:48,910
the rest?

928
00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:52,470
I know it's objectionable, it hurts, and people

929
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:55,630
tell me now they're already cracking jokes about

930
00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:56,130
Swaggart.

931
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:59,570
If God told me I could go on

932
00:32:59,570 --> 00:33:01,470
preaching, a guy told me the other night,

933
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:03,250
somebody said, well, if God says he can

934
00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:05,030
go on preaching, the message is, why didn't

935
00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:06,710
God tell him there's a cop following him

936
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:07,810
up the road in a car?

937
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,070
So, they're not as dumb as they appear

938
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:10,470
to be.

939
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:20,470
I think it all boils down to one

940
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:22,350
of the oldest hymns we have to ever

941
00:33:22,350 --> 00:33:23,990
sing it, trust and obey.

942
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:25,410
There's no other way.

943
00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:28,510
No other way.

944
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:38,540
It's hard on the flesh.

945
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000
It's hard against the lifestyle of preachers round

946
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,980
about us, but what does God want?

947
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,440
I'm not going to the Judgment Bar of

948
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,400
the Assemblies of God or the First Baptist

949
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,020
Church, I'm going to the Judgment Bar of

950
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:51,780
Jesus Christ.

951
00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:55,510
And I live with that every day.

952
00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:02,610
It's his words that will judge us.

953
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:03,610
Yes.

954
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:05,510
It's what he said.

955
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:09,830
Well, you think it's not what's just in

956
00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:11,630
the book of life, as Joseph said to

957
00:34:11,630 --> 00:34:13,389
me one day, he said, Leonard, I don't

958
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:15,190
think I'm ashamed of what I've done since

959
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:15,949
I was saved.

960
00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:17,670
It's what I could have done that troubles

961
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:19,790
me and not what I did, but why

962
00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:20,409
I did it.

963
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:22,290
God has been away the mortars.

964
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:24,310
I mean, I had G.

965
00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:26,570
Campbell Morgan say, I had talked with a

966
00:34:26,570 --> 00:34:27,810
friend of mine the other day, and he'd

967
00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:29,870
been preaching in a church I love to

968
00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:32,590
go to, and Campbell Morgan said, how did

969
00:34:32,590 --> 00:34:32,929
he get on?

970
00:34:32,989 --> 00:34:34,730
He said, oh, he said, I enjoyed myself.

971
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:35,510
He said he did.

972
00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:37,250
He enjoyed his oratory.

973
00:34:37,449 --> 00:34:39,190
He enjoyed his rapport with the people.

974
00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:40,989
He enjoyed his eloquence.

975
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:42,590
He enjoyed himself.

976
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:44,190
What did God get?

977
00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:47,250
The question when I finish a meeting is,

978
00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:49,050
I didn't get anything out of this meeting.

979
00:34:49,150 --> 00:34:50,250
What did God get out of it?

980
00:34:51,170 --> 00:34:52,530
What do people say going out?

981
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,730
I think, dear brother, if I was where

982
00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:55,929
God wants me to be or where I

983
00:34:55,929 --> 00:34:57,830
should be, I would leave a meeting with

984
00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,890
tears running down my face at the glory

985
00:34:59,890 --> 00:35:02,890
of God, or that all these people outside

986
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:05,230
are glued to the TV this afternoon, this

987
00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:07,290
Sabbath day, and they're not a bit interested

988
00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:07,690
in God.

989
00:35:08,330 --> 00:35:10,490
Christ could die on the main street today,

990
00:35:10,570 --> 00:35:11,730
it won't interest them at all.

991
00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:14,670
But we've got, I think we've got to

992
00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:17,470
preach till people know that we mean what

993
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:18,010
we say.

994
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:31,220
We burned Edwin Hatch was Chancellor

995
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:35,080
of I think St Mary's College in Oxford.

996
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:37,820
One of the best guys in England.

997
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,320
But one day, even though he had crowds

998
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,100
and everything, he got so tired, he went

999
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,580
in his office and he wrote that gorgeous

1000
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:46,560
hymn, breathe on me breath of God, fill

1001
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,660
me with life anew.

1002
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,760
Then the last sentence, breathe on me breath

1003
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,580
of God till I am wholly thine, till

1004
00:35:51,580 --> 00:35:53,760
all this earthly part of me glows with

1005
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,520
thy fire divine.

1006
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,880
People ask me, how do you you've been

1007
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,820
preaching 70 years now, how do you keep

1008
00:35:58,820 --> 00:35:59,280
an edge?

1009
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Because I read stories on Levi, because I

1010
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,900
read the word of God, and I see

1011
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,040
what the Apostle did.

1012
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,600
That Paul can laugh at death and laugh

1013
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,360
at hardship and sit in the lousiest prison

1014
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,180
in the world and tell other people to

1015
00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:13,680
rejoice.

1016
00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,020
Or he can give you 2 Corinthians 11

1017
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:19,300
and go down seven times in awareness of

1018
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:20,680
the fact that in perils of the deep,

1019
00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:22,960
in perils of my own countrymen, in perils,

1020
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,960
perils, enough to kill ten men.

1021
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680
And glory in tribulation, doesn't just find grace

1022
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,320
to get through.

1023
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,100
He welcomes it.

1024
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,200
He says, this is the only way.

1025
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:36,520
Because when we get to heaven, dear brother,

1026
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:38,260
God isn't going to ask you where your

1027
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,420
diploma is, he's not looking for medals, he's

1028
00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:41,380
looking for scars.

1029
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Paul says, for this cause also thank we

1030
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,020
God without ceasing.

1031
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,780
Because when you receive the word of God

1032
00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:53,180
which you heard of us, you receive it

1033
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:55,700
not as the word of men, but as

1034
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:57,240
it is in truth the word of God,

1035
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,440
which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

1036
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:05,680
Do men not believe this word that has

1037
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,520
been written to them?

1038
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:09,080
Well, because it doesn't work in us.

1039
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,560
I say you stand in the pulpit and

1040
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,060
preach it, but what does it mean to

1041
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:14,300
you?

1042
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:16,640
Why does it work out in your life?

1043
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,760
I mean, you have to drive the biggest

1044
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,100
car, you have to have this, you have

1045
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:20,860
to have the other ends.

1046
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:27,840
I have a five-year-old Lincoln Continental,

1047
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,880
the small one, and people laugh at me

1048
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,440
for having it.

1049
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,340
I say, well, I'll swap it for anything

1050
00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:32,720
else.

1051
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,720
It's reliable, that's why I like it.

1052
00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:36,760
I got it because I'm doing long-distance

1053
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,160
traveling.

1054
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,420
I don't need it to shop in.

1055
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:39,560
If you want to buy it, buy it.

1056
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:41,140
I'll take an older one.

1057
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:43,500
But I said, it doesn't mean that much

1058
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:43,840
to me.

1059
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,340
I said, I haven't bought any clothes for

1060
00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:48,040
five years.

1061
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,740
I bought one pair of trousers.

1062
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:53,200
It's just that I used to, almost, I

1063
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,940
didn't like clothes because I was a tailor

1064
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:58,600
before I was sane.

1065
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:00,200
I wore the best clothes in the country.

1066
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:01,700
In fact, they used to call me the

1067
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:03,240
best dressed man in the whole household.

1068
00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:05,920
But all that's gone, that's trivial, that's silly

1069
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,400
looking back.

1070
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,800
I said, well, it matters.

1071
00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:09,880
If you can get nearer to God than

1072
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,200
I get, tell me how did you get

1073
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,460
there?

1074
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,860
That's all I'm concerned about.

1075
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,380
Paul isn't concerned about anything.

1076
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,160
I said, you go to the National Convention

1077
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,420
of your denomination and stand up and say,

1078
00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:24,960
I've got a glorious text for you.

1079
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:28,440
There's a thousand pastors here from our denomination.

1080
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:29,960
I've got a glorious text from you.

1081
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,620
You're dead.

1082
00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:32,380
What would they do?

1083
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,300
They'd glare at you.

1084
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,880
I said, Paul could.

1085
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,200
You're dead and your life is hid with

1086
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,140
Christ in God.

1087
00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:40,460
Oh, they believe you're dead.

1088
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,620
Your preachers are dead.

1089
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,980
Your actors are dead.

1090
00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:45,720
But are you dead to all the world's

1091
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,300
glamour?

1092
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:48,260
Are you dead to the rivalry in your

1093
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:48,940
denomination?

1094
00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:51,420
Are you dead to climbing up the ladder?

1095
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,160
They tell me preachers wept when when Chriswell

1096
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,220
finally decided to have Joel Gregory from Travis

1097
00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:01,520
Avenue as his assistant.

1098
00:39:01,660 --> 00:39:04,000
Other men thought, well, I deserve it after

1099
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,220
him.

1100
00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:06,060
Truett was there 45 years.

1101
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,020
He's been there 42 years.

1102
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,240
I'm a young man.

1103
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:09,900
I should go in.

1104
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,200
So what?

1105
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,740
People ask me, what do you do to

1106
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:15,160
be great?

1107
00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:16,480
I wash somebody's feet.

1108
00:39:23,290 --> 00:39:24,750
Was A.W. Tozer your mentor?

1109
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:25,390
Yes.

1110
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:27,190
What was he like?

1111
00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:35,500
Well, there were different ways to answer that

1112
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,600
question, but I'll tell you one thing about

1113
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:37,840
him.

1114
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:42,460
It was the same with Martin Lloyd-Jones.

1115
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:44,760
I talked with him.

1116
00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:45,780
G.

1117
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,540
Campbell Morgan, I listened to him often.

1118
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:54,880
So Martin Lloyd-Jones and George Campbell Morgan

1119
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,240
and Tozer had one thing in common.

1120
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120
When they went to the pulpit, they never

1121
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160
raised their finger, never raised their voice.

1122
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,960
They didn't depend on histrionics to get the

1123
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,480
message over.

1124
00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:08,800
Dr. Tozer had a habit of, like he'd

1125
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,940
have his Bible in his hand, say, I'm

1126
00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:14,640
reading from John 17 1, and he began

1127
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,320
to read, and he'd maybe give a little

1128
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,160
outline, and then he rocked to and for

1129
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
like this and suddenly he'd throw his Bible

1130
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,620
on the pulpit and at that moment he

1131
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:24,180
was airborne.

1132
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:26,720
He's like a plane getting off the runway

1133
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:27,320
and off he went.

1134
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160
And he wasn't the greatest preacher I've heard

1135
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,420
in my life, but he had the most

1136
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,800
intimacy with God.

1137
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,420
Like he read all the mystics, you know,

1138
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:47,260
he could quote the Ladder of Sanctity, or

1139
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:49,340
he could quote Madame Guin or Faber, anybody,

1140
00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:51,180
and he could put his finger on the

1141
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:54,400
whole lot and tell you how he'd read

1142
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,600
them.

1143
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:00,090
His emphasis was the inner man, the inner

1144
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:00,910
man, you know.

1145
00:41:01,430 --> 00:41:02,790
And he was against showmanship.

1146
00:41:03,010 --> 00:41:04,530
He wouldn't let anybody play a trumpet on

1147
00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:05,250
his platform.

1148
00:41:05,790 --> 00:41:07,890
Hardly let anybody sing unless they sang a

1149
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:08,850
hymn, he knew what it was.

1150
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:16,580
And he had a fellow called Mack something.

1151
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:22,100
Anyhow, he introduced, well before that, Tozer had

1152
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,940
got an old Methodist head book and soaked

1153
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,760
himself in it while this fellow came on,

1154
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,500
and I can't remember his name, Mack, and

1155
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,840
he introduced when he got to a lot

1156
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,700
of old Methodist head books, or they printed

1157
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:35,460
sheets, and they sang hymns like And can

1158
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:37,020
it be that I should gain, and all

1159
00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:37,320
those.

1160
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,900
And Tozer reveled in that kind of thing.

1161
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,280
He wouldn't have a concert in the place.

1162
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,840
He wouldn't have any special meetings.

1163
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:51,300
I went and we had two weeks, three

1164
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,420
weekends actually, and he said this is the

1165
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:55,640
greatest revival in the history of this church.

1166
00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:58,920
We had the altars up until midnight, people

1167
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,340
weeping and seeking God, and coming right across

1168
00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:02,780
town.

1169
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,980
Well, here's the difference, you've got Moody Bible

1170
00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:09,320
Institute here, and next door is Moody Church.

1171
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:11,160
The students only had to come out of

1172
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,380
here into there, and yet they crossed the

1173
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:17,160
town when ice churned up by the cars

1174
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,400
and it froze, and you could well, people's

1175
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000
ankles were snapping getting off buses, and they'd

1176
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,740
rather come across town in a car or

1177
00:42:27,740 --> 00:42:30,280
walk, some of them, and hear Tozer, than

1178
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,600
go next door to hear the whoever was

1179
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800
preacher, that Logsdon part of the time.

1180
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040
And, well, I'll tell you where he was.

1181
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,100
He was in that place that three times

1182
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,320
they begged him to become the president of

1183
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,060
the Christian Missionary Alliance when everybody wants that,

1184
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,400
and he turned it down again and again.

1185
00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:51,500
God didn't ask me to kiss babies and

1186
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:52,640
sit in council meetings.

1187
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,880
My business is the Word of God.

1188
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,560
And he would turn away and not even

1189
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,120
buy his advisor with his time.

1190
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,440
I was privileged to spend a lot of

1191
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,780
time with him and go to his home

1192
00:43:05,780 --> 00:43:06,020
even.

1193
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,160
But all the time he talked about well,

1194
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,940
the type of teaching that A.B. Simpson

1195
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:16,400
had, opening the depths of the Word of

1196
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,060
God, you know.

1197
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Romans and Ephesians living in that area and

1198
00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:25,600
shut worldliness out, shut theatres out, shut everything

1199
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,580
else which he did.

1200
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:27,580
He loved music.

1201
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:30,440
He listened every night to a recording of

1202
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,480
of who did he listen to?

1203
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:48,030
Not Chopin, I'm not sure, but one of

1204
00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:48,710
the great symphonies.

1205
00:43:49,090 --> 00:43:51,950
Every night he had one hour listening to

1206
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:53,910
good music.

1207
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:57,730
But again, he was I prayed to him

1208
00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:58,310
many times.

1209
00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:59,910
He was very, very wonderful in prayer.

1210
00:44:00,090 --> 00:44:00,690
He didn't shout.

1211
00:44:00,910 --> 00:44:03,710
He just, he had a conversational talk with

1212
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:08,070
God and he could be, he could cut

1213
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:10,110
an audience in two with the Word almost.

1214
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:13,810
He got very sarcastic at times and, you

1215
00:44:13,810 --> 00:44:17,530
know, people kind of remonstrated with him for

1216
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:17,810
that.

1217
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:26,210
He refused all invitations until the very end.

1218
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:29,650
He stayed in one church 25 years and

1219
00:44:29,650 --> 00:44:31,350
he didn't get a very big salary, so.

1220
00:44:39,330 --> 00:44:41,930
His strength, actually, was his devotional life.

1221
00:44:42,270 --> 00:44:44,870
He wouldn't let anybody trespass on that.

1222
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:47,750
He spent certain time with God all the

1223
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:48,070
time.

1224
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:55,170
Did you reflect some on your times with

1225
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:55,670
Keith Green?

1226
00:44:58,380 --> 00:44:59,680
Well, Keith was a zealot.

1227
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,860
I mean, he bounced through that door.

1228
00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:06,140
I remember he, well, this division, it used

1229
00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:08,300
to be a wall and Dave Wilkinson pulled

1230
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:09,840
it out and furnished all this for me.

1231
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,780
And, uh, Wilkinson would come one day, Green

1232
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:15,600
would come the other, as opposite as could

1233
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,400
be because David was mature.

1234
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,340
He'd been a pastor for about 20 years

1235
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:20,600
then.

1236
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,020
Keith, of course, had come from the guts

1237
00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:24,680
and he'd tell me about his past life

1238
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,400
and sordidness.

1239
00:45:25,860 --> 00:45:27,180
But he was hungry for God.

1240
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,680
I remember definitely a turn in his life

1241
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,960
when I told him he shouldn't charge to

1242
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,680
go into concerts when they didn't do.

1243
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,200
They'd gone back to it this last week,

1244
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:36,400
I think, but they didn't do that.

1245
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,200
And, uh, I remember talking to him about

1246
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,280
eternity on one occasion and holiness on another.

1247
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,380
And he, you know, like a trout jumping

1248
00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:47,200
up to get a fly, he got over

1249
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,800
it like that.

1250
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,500
And he would come back.

1251
00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:51,380
I remember he'd bounce through the door, you

1252
00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:53,060
know, he'd want to get through it before

1253
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:53,520
he opened it.

1254
00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:54,780
He'd open it and bounce through it.

1255
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:55,660
And he was a big guy.

1256
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:57,840
And I remember he used to give me

1257
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,120
pops and give me a hug.

1258
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,140
He'd say, pops, he'd say, do you know

1259
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:02,760
what all roads lead to?

1260
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,580
We used to say in England, all roads

1261
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:06,480
lead to Rome.

1262
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,420
It's an old saying.

1263
00:46:07,820 --> 00:46:09,520
Everybody travels to Rome, you see.

1264
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:11,940
He said, do you know what all roads

1265
00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:12,380
lead to?

1266
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:13,400
I said, no, the same thing.

1267
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:14,280
No, he said, you're wrong.

1268
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:14,840
I said, why?

1269
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:16,960
He said, all roads lead to the judgment

1270
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,360
seat.

1271
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:20,040
I said, very good.

1272
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:22,460
And he had a...

1273
00:46:23,620 --> 00:46:26,000
I don't know, I've never read this anywhere,

1274
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,360
but I think it's right to say he

1275
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,420
had a holy fever.

1276
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,940
Or, if you like, a fear of God.

1277
00:46:33,820 --> 00:46:35,120
I mean, when you think he didn't live

1278
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,340
very long, but I still get letters about

1279
00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:37,500
him.

1280
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:39,660
I get that book that his wife wrote

1281
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,580
on no compromises, doing good.

1282
00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:47,020
And they still send his tapes out.

1283
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,460
In fact, he wrote the Catholic Chronicles that

1284
00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:52,280
they withdrew.

1285
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Somebody wrote to me this week and asked

1286
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,660
me could they ever say it, because God

1287
00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:58,460
used it tremendously, but it got them into

1288
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:00,640
trouble for not being friendly enough with the

1289
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Catholics, so they withdrew it.

1290
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:05,200
And he loved to pray.

1291
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,660
He'd say, come, we'll pray.

1292
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:08,320
And he'd get down and really pour his

1293
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,840
heart out, you know, and he had visions

1294
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,460
of what God wanted to do in this

1295
00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:14,980
area, and he was...

1296
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:16,720
Of course, other people couldn't keep up with

1297
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:16,820
him.

1298
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:17,460
They thought he...

1299
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:18,740
Maybe he was...

1300
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:20,960
He wasn't mature enough, in one sense, for

1301
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,380
leadership.

1302
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,700
He wanted everybody to jump up to his

1303
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:26,020
level, which you can't do anymore, than I

1304
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:27,640
could jump up now to the level of

1305
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,000
an Olympic runner.

1306
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,440
I used to run.

1307
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,840
I'd like to run, but I can't.

1308
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:33,020
I'm glad even to walk.

1309
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:34,340
But he was like that.

1310
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,400
I mean, he saw eternal things, and if

1311
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,400
they weren't clear to you, he couldn't understand

1312
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,320
his stupidity.

1313
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:42,640
He couldn't understand why you're not leaping and,

1314
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:44,880
you know, and going full pace.

1315
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,840
If he fasted, he fasted.

1316
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:47,940
If he prayed, he prayed.

1317
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:50,040
There's a uniqueness...

1318
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,100
Well, my precious wife has a tremendous insight

1319
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:53,500
to people.

1320
00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:54,920
The first time she saw him, she said,

1321
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:57,340
Len, the Spirit of God is on that

1322
00:47:57,340 --> 00:47:57,800
young man.

1323
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:01,280
And in England, you know, you've got two

1324
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,340
kidneys that are supposed to match, function the

1325
00:48:03,340 --> 00:48:03,660
same.

1326
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,700
Well, in England, they say, well, that man

1327
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:06,500
isn't your kidney.

1328
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,380
In other words, you know, it's not your,

1329
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,760
if you want to call it, alter ego,

1330
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,620
or what you want to call it.

1331
00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:12,880
But immediately he came in.

1332
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:15,740
She said, well, there's something unique about...

1333
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,420
And there was about him.

1334
00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:19,020
And they don't have it now.

1335
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:19,680
They know that.

1336
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,060
I mean, he was willing to live a

1337
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:23,780
full stretch.

1338
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,580
They expected others to do the same thing

1339
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:26,000
for him.

1340
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,080
He was a good reader.

1341
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,100
He liked to read Tozer very much.

1342
00:48:36,980 --> 00:48:38,660
He liked to read David Brainerd.

1343
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,000
He liked to read the three volumes of

1344
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Edward Pace.

1345
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,100
And he read that too.

1346
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,240
In essence, dear brother, he's saying exactly what

1347
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:54,660
you say.

1348
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,020
Go back to the old past.

1349
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,020
He'd ask me, well, of course, he and

1350
00:48:59,020 --> 00:49:01,660
the guy that used to be up at

1351
00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:11,000
the street, the minister up there, they're very

1352
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,700
much fashionable.

1353
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:13,160
They used to read William Booth.

1354
00:49:13,220 --> 00:49:15,160
They read the stories of William Booth and

1355
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,720
the old men.

1356
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,320
And he'd come to me and tell me

1357
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,240
more about Booth.

1358
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,940
Tell me more about the nights of prayer.

1359
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,400
Tell me about the days of fasting.

1360
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Tell me about your street meetings.

1361
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,520
And I need to warm up to it.

1362
00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:28,060
We want to get back to that.

1363
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:35,790
It's one of those mysteries.

1364
00:49:35,950 --> 00:49:37,610
You don't know why God moves men along

1365
00:49:37,610 --> 00:49:38,070
like that.

1366
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,180
How would you want people to remember you?

1367
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Oh, I don't know.

1368
00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:50,820
That's a nuisance, I think.

1369
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,180
When your reward is like I can't do

1370
00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:08,900
it now because I get so many people,

1371
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,680
but say three or four years ago, a

1372
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,900
man had come and spent two hours.

1373
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:15,320
And men write back and say, you know,

1374
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,500
from another country, I'm fasting out in New

1375
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:17,820
Zealand.

1376
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,000
And the turning point was when I came

1377
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,080
to see you, I got more in two

1378
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,820
hours with you than I got two years

1379
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:24,500
in seminary.

1380
00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:26,960
I'm reading the whole armor of God.

1381
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,740
I'm reading this.

1382
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:30,140
I'm reading some history of the Salvation Army

1383
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:33,160
and areas that they hadn't broken into.

1384
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,360
And all I know is I've stressed as

1385
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,980
much as possible the life of prayer and

1386
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:43,940
personal devotion.

1387
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,140
Immediately you get cold there, you get cold

1388
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:46,780
outside.

1389
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,940
If you keep fueling yourself, you keep reading

1390
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:53,360
Isaiah 6 over and get visions of God

1391
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,000
and visions of living in the book of

1392
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,180
the Revelation and you don't understand all of

1393
00:50:58,180 --> 00:50:58,280
it.

1394
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:58,860
You don't ask to.

1395
00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:00,360
I say, God can't be explained.

1396
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,400
He can be experienced.

1397
00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:03,160
And that's all that matters.

1398
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,080
I mean, I sometimes fear like I preach

1399
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,600
my heart out on Sunday in a 3

1400
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,120
-4 vision.

1401
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,120
I wonder after am I trying to get

1402
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,560
people to come up to the altar?

1403
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,880
I don't know, because I never made an

1404
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,220
altar call.

1405
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,280
But nobody's going to jump.

1406
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,980
I mean, I got saved at 14.

1407
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:21,080
I'm 84 almost 85.

1408
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:23,020
So I've been 70 years.

1409
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,980
I've seen all kinds of tragedies in the

1410
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:25,320
church.

1411
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,200
Wars and rumors of wars.

1412
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:30,140
Popular men going popular and so forth.

1413
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,960
But keep looking up to Jesus and reading

1414
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,460
the word and remembering these old paths that

1415
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:39,260
my daddy used to talk about so much.

1416
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,320
And all the other looks like trivia.

1417
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,540
Guys now laugh at me because I live

1418
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:47,840
on my social security.

1419
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,820
I've done counseling in this room for 13

1420
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:52,300
years.

1421
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,340
And the whole aggregate somebody leaves something behind.

1422
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,100
It's okay.

1423
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,200
They haven't left $500 in 13 years.

1424
00:52:01,420 --> 00:52:02,980
So I don't do it for the money.

1425
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,800
A man called me from Houston last year.

1426
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,100
He said, can I come and see you?

1427
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:08,600
I said, yes.

1428
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Next one, a van came.

1429
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:14,680
Ten of them came with the pastor at

1430
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,480
10 o'clock and they stayed till one

1431
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:16,680
night.

1432
00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:18,080
Talked my heart out as much as I

1433
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,300
could.

1434
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,040
Going out with them and said, you don't

1435
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,280
expect any remuneration for this do you?

1436
00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:22,740
I said, no.

1437
00:52:22,860 --> 00:52:24,640
I said, I live on my social security.

1438
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,340
Anything above that I divide in the middle

1439
00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:29,580
between my missionary son and myself or the

1440
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:30,020
other boy.

1441
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:33,760
So this fellow said, well, we should leave

1442
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,220
you something.

1443
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,740
So he goes to the door, takes his

1444
00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:38,940
billfold out, takes something out and he came

1445
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:40,440
back and he put it on the table,

1446
00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:41,880
put his hand on it and he said,

1447
00:52:42,740 --> 00:52:44,480
I'm leaving this for you because I know

1448
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,740
you'll share it with your son.

1449
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,760
I said, I sure will.

1450
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,960
So they went and I went to Martha

1451
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,460
and I said, darling, they've gone now.

1452
00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:52,560
I said, but they left us some money.

1453
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,400
Isn't that a miracle?

1454
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,980
She said, well, we don't get that.

1455
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,340
I said, well, I don't know what it

1456
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:56,560
is.

1457
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,720
Maybe $100 or $1000 he's left us because

1458
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,000
he told me to share it with Paul.

1459
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:02,600
She said, well, let's go.

1460
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:03,680
So he came in and he left us

1461
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,020
$5.

1462
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,300
I said, well, one thing, we won't get

1463
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:08,020
drunk anyhow.

1464
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080
No, I'm just saying that because everything has

1465
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,100
money in America.

1466
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,800
You don't know.

1467
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,200
What annoys me, well, how much would it

1468
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,500
cost to have it come for a week?

1469
00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:19,280
I said, if you start that way, I'm

1470
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,060
not even going.

1471
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:20,740
Now, don't go.

1472
00:53:22,220 --> 00:53:24,180
No, I think we're moving now.

1473
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,880
In one thing, it's terrible that things like

1474
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,520
swaggots happen and so forth, but it gives

1475
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,500
the church a new start.

1476
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:31,880
We're going to start on a new level

1477
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,420
of holiness.

1478
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:33,800
We're not going to be entertainers.

1479
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:35,040
We're not going to bother who comes or

1480
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,500
doesn't come.

1481
00:53:36,580 --> 00:53:38,340
We don't have to join in every effort

1482
00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:39,760
that they're making in the city to have

1483
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,280
a revival.

1484
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:40,880
Forget it.

1485
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:42,280
We've been doing that for 20 years.

1486
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,240
Stay at the place of prayer.

1487
00:53:44,380 --> 00:53:46,020
It doesn't matter who comes to town to

1488
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:46,320
preach.

1489
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:48,140
We're going to stay together and pray Friday

1490
00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:50,040
night from 9 till 11 or 9 till

1491
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,360
12.

1492
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,340
I've done that always.

1493
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,780
Every city I've been in, I've started a

1494
00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:57,080
pastor's prayer meeting, usually on a Monday when

1495
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,320
they're washed out and tired.

1496
00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:00,780
And they come from all denominations.

1497
00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:07,020
There's no alternative to prayer and obedience.

1498
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:10,240
You've been listening to the From the Pulpit

1499
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:11,540
and Classic Sermon series.

1500
00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:14,400
This week you heard Leonard Ravenhill with his

1501
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,940
message, A Man of God, Part 2.

1502
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:19,880
Tune in again next week to hear Billy

1503
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,060
Graham talk about the gift of blood on

1504
00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:25,460
the From the Pulpit and Classic Sermons.