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Welcome to From the Pulpit in Classic Sermons.

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Each week we bring you a different message

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from some of history's greatest speakers in the

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Christian faith, and powerful sermons from modern preachers

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too.

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This week, we have John Hagee with his

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message, Great is Thy Faithfulness.

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Join with me to Psalms, the 89th chapter,

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as we speak on the theme, Great is

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Thy Faithfulness.

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This is not a sermon, it's a testimonial

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to the faithfulness of God in my life

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and ministry over the past 50 years.

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On the first Sunday of March, 1958, I

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walked into the pulpit for the very first

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time to preach the gospel.

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In a way, it seems like yesterday, and

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then on the other hand, it seems like

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an eternity.

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The celebration of the accomplishments of Cornerstone Church,

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with its more than 19,000 plus active

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members.

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The celebration of John Hagee Television Ministries that

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reaches America and every nation on the face

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of the earth by television almost every day.

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The celebration of Cornerstone Christian Schools and the

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building of the beautiful Tarpley Retreat Center.

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The celebration of the accomplishments of a night

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to honor Israel and Christians United for Israel

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is a monument to the faithfulness of God,

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not John Hagee.

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I assure you, the God that we serve

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is a faithful God.

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I want you to read with me Psalms

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89, 1 and 2.

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I will sing of the mercies of the

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Lord forever.

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With my mouth will I make known your

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faithfulness to all generations.

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For I have said, mercy shall be built

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up forever.

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Your faithfulness you shall establish in the heavens.

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And then let me read to you Lamentations

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Through the mercies of the Lord, we are

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not consumed.

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Because his compassions fail not.

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They are renewed every morning.

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Great is your faithfulness.

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Say that with me.

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Great is your faithfulness.

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If you've been saved more than a week,

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you know that's absolutely true.

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The faithfulness of God is far, far, far

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beyond our deserving.

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Father, we stand here today through the blood

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of Jesus Christ and the mercies of God

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in your faithfulness.

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Thank you for the great things that you

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have done.

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Thank you that the majesty of your name

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can be proclaimed from this platform to the

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nations of the world.

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Thank you God that a foundation has been

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built for which future generations can launch into

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the 21st century.

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And the best is yet to be for

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your glory and for your honor.

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We have not arrived.

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We have only just begun.

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In Jesus name, amen.

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You may be seated.

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Our God is a faithful God.

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The truth is I have failed the Lord

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many times, but he has never failed me

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one time.

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Our God is a faithful God whose mercies

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are renewed every morning.

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If that weren't true, God would have fired

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me a long time ago.

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Saint Paul said, the things that are not

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seen are greater than the things that are

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For the spiritual and the invisible are greater

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than the physical and the visible.

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Many are watching this celebration today from the

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balconies of heaven, whose blood, sweat, and tears

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help make Cornerstone Church and all of its

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related ministries possible.

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Generations of the Hagee family who have preached

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the gospel all the days of their life

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are gathered around the banister of the Celestial

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City today, celebrating the goodness of God, celebrating

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the faithfulness of God in the generations that

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followed them.

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I have been asked by many pastors on

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many occasions, what is the secret of your

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success in the ministry at Cornerstone?

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And the answer is, like Joseph in Egypt,

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God was with me.

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God was with me.

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He held me in the hollow of his

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hand until the storm passed by.

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He is Jehovah Shammah, the God who was

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there in the darkest nights, showing the way

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to walk.

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By his sovereign grace and his eternal faithfulness,

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we survived the most vicious and sustained storms.

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We survived assassination attempts.

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We survived criticism from all directions.

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We survived the toxic tongues of Christians who

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were certain I had missed the will of

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God for this church.

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Our God is a faithful God.

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He is a faithful God.

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He is a never-failing God.

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And he is the Lord that has made

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this church and all of its ministries possible.

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Give the Lord a praise for his great

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work.

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The faithfulness of God placed me in a

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godly home.

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The child that's born into a home where

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both parents are Bible-believing Christians has an

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advantage over other children greater than wealth and

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fame, better than apples of gold or pictures

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of silver.

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My father, Bythel Hagee, was an ordained minister

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in the Assemblies of God for more than

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50 years.

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He had only one passion in life, preaching.

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Preaching the gospel.

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He has now been with the Lord for

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20 years.

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My mother, Bythel Hagee, will be 95 years

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of age in another two months.

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She is suffering from dementia and living in

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an assisted living center for those who are

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suffering with Alzheimer's.

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Without my mother's prayers, I assure you, I

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would never have come to know the Lord.

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I was not saved by my father's preaching.

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I was saved because of my mother's praying.

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I certainly would never have entered the ministry.

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I would never have preached one sermon.

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I would never have built four churches.

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Never preached the gospel to the nations of

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the earth by television.

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Never founded a night to honor Israel or

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Christians United for Israel.

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If Cornerstone Church has a founder other than

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Jesus Christ, it's my mother.

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She was the chisel in the hand of

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God that sculptured my life.

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There are no words in human speech to

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describe the love I have for her.

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When I go to see her, she doesn't

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know me.

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I have to introduce myself to her every

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time.

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And I go down the factory, she's got

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four sons.

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And she said, which one are you?

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And I say, my name is John.

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Do you remember me?

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And she says, vaguely.

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I'll tell you, that'll take the wind out

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of your sails in a hurry.

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Your own mother looks at you, I remember

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you vaguely.

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Now get this.

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She's been watching me on television for 30

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years.

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And she knows me on television.

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I'm standing right beside her.

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She says, do you know my son that

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preaches on the television?

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I said, yes, I know him very well.

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She said, I want you to sit down

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here and listen to him preach.

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She still says it like MacArthur.

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Sit down and hear him preach.

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So I sat down and listened to a

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sermon.

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Because of her sickness, she has been separated

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from us in a way.

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But through the television, she's uniquely connected to

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us.

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So I would like for this audience to

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give my mother an ovation for the sacrifice

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of her life and to the kingdom of

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God.

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Because without her, we wouldn't be here today.

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Would you do that please?

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Mom, this is for you.

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Thank you.

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God was faithful to save me as a

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teenager.

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When I was growing up, going to church

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every service was not an option.

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It was a command.

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My father was very inflexible when it came

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to the rules of the house.

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We went to church early and we stayed

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late.

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Late was 10, 30, 11 o'clock.

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We had four major revivals every year.

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Some of them lasted six weeks.

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We went to church on Saturday night even.

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We didn't have time to sin.

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We didn't have the energy to sin.

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After 42 offerings, that would be seven weeks

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times six.

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After 42 offerings, we didn't have the money

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to sin.

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And that's the gospel.

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I sat on the back row of my

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father's church as close to the back door

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as I could get with a mechanical drawing

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board hung on the song book rack where

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I wrote English themes, worked quadratic equations, waiting

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for the preacher to shut up who was

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generally my father.

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In those days, the Assemblies of God considered

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sports worldly, something Christians simply didn't do.

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I was a four-sport letterman which made

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me the devil's poster child sitting on the

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back row of the church.

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I didn't like sports.

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I told the people in my father's church,

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if all of you people are going to

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heaven, hell is not going to be half

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bad.

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They were shocked.

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It was a major miracle that I ever

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got saved.

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I had an appointment to West Point, and

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being in the ministry was not on my

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radar screen.

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I told my parents, when I'm 18, take

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a picture of me going through the door.

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That's the last time you'll see me in

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a church house.

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And I fully intend to keep that promise.

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But God had a different plan because of

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my mother's prayers.

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In January of 1958, after one of those

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long everlasting eternal sermons that never shut up,

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sitting on the back row, waiting for the

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altar call to mercifully end, it was going

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now into its 20th minute.

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Suddenly, like a light in a dark room,

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like the Apostle Paul on the road to

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Damascus, I wanted to know, who art thou,

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Lord?

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And what wilt thou have me to do?

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I walked to the altar that night and

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surrendered my life to Christ.

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Ten days later, I went to Southwestern Bible

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Institute, which is now Southwestern Assemblies of God

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University in Waxahachie, Texas.

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I took one course in high school to

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graduate and took 12 hours in the Bible

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college because the high school and the Bible

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college and the junior college were on the

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same property.

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God was faithful to help me to get

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a job to stay in school.

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I will never forget the Sunday I left

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home at the age of 17 and watched

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my father write a check for $75 out

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of a checkbook that only had 80.

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That would pay for six weeks of school.

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I had six weeks to find a job

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or come home.

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If I was going to stay at Southwestern,

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I had to find that job and fast.

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And I'm going to tell you something, Waxahachie

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then and now is not downtown New York.

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On the last day that I could possibly

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stay at school, by the grace of God,

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I found a job making church pews at

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Southwestern Wood Products.

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I don't know why God always waits to

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the midnight hour to answer.

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I don't know why he lets you hang

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by the cliff, by your fingernails, knowing or

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feeling you're going over the edge, but he

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just seems to like that somehow.

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I simply don't know.

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Southwestern decided to make a movie, Life at

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Southwestern.

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I was chosen to make that movie.

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I sang in the Harvester Choir and was

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the president of my class at Bible college.

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I preached my first sermon on the first

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Sunday of March of 1958 at the First

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Assembly of God Church in Houston, Texas.

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I was 17 years and 11 months old,

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and I preached that sermon out of this

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Bible.

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This Bible was given to me by my

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father's church before I left for Bible school.

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I want you to know that this grand

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old book is worn out.

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If I held it upside down, pages would

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fly in all four directions.

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But the truth that's found in this battered

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old book are still greater than all of

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the knowledge in the world and every book

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and every library, because this is still the

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eternal unshakable word of God.

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This message is a consuming fire.

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This is still the two-edged sword.

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This is still the living water and the

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bread of life.

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This is still meat for men and milk

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for children.

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This is still a lamp unto my feet

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and a light unto my pathway.

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Here the gates of heaven are open and

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the gates of hell are closed.

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This Word rules our lives.

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It guides our thoughts.

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It controls our speech.

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It determines our relationships.

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You don't read this book.

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This book reads you.

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People who have a Bible that's falling apart

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have a life that's not.

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Thank God for His Word.

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For the flower wilts and the grass withers,

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but the Word of God shall endure forever.

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Hallelujah for the unshakable foundation of the Word

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of God.

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I want to express my profound appreciation to

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the pastors of the Assemblies of God who

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had the raw courage to turn a teenager

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loose in their pulpits.

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I have to tell you that is real

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courage.

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You learn to preach by preaching.

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And while in Bible college, I averaged preaching

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about four or five times every week.

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I would drive Friday to the church, preach

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Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday morning, Sunday night,

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and then drive all night back to the

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school in time for class on Monday.

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Most of those pastors that were brave enough

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to let me preach those revivals that went

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two or three weeks are now in heaven.

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Pastors Lonnie Mullins, R.R. Taylor, Jimmy McClellan,

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Elbert Smart.

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Elbert Smart is a member of this church

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now.

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He was a child pastor, by the way.

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G.Q. Manley, C.E. McNeely, J.J.

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Land, J.S. McMullen, Charles Wigley, J.S.

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McQueen, Pastor Eldridge, and many, many others who

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courageously gave me the opportunity to preach the

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gospel from their pulpits.

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God was faithful to expand the borders of

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my tent.

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In January 1962, I came to San Antonio

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to attend Trinity University after preaching for two

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years, revivals across America.

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I realized that I had been raised exclusively

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in the church world.

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You just don't know how exclusively that was.

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And I knew if I was going to

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reach my generation, I needed a broader intellectual

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base to do so.

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So I enrolled at Trinity University and was

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awarded a football scholarship.

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At a fabulous university, I certainly didn't have

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the financial ability to attend.

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Trinity University was one of the best decisions

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I ever made in my life.

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I was introduced to a level of scholarship

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and knowledge that I knew nothing about.

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I had never had to study in middle

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school or high school to make the honor

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roll, not in Bible school either.

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At Trinity, I had to study three hours

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plus every night to get ready for class

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the next day and make the dean's list.

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A whole new world opened up, and it

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changed my life forever as a pastor and

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as a writer.

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Those study habits produced far better sermons.

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Those sermons became chapters in the 23 books

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that I have written and the 24th that

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I am now writing.

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The prophetic book, The Beginning of the End,

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was dictated in one day to a team

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of stenographers and was in the bookstores around

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the world in 60 days.

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They came at 8 o'clock in the

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morning.

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We were in the executive dining room.

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We began page one, chapter one, paragraph one.

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At 6 o'clock that night, the prophetic

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book was dictated.

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And 60 days later, that book was in

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every bookstore, Christian bookstore around the world.

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It sold over one million copies, and they

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ran out five times.

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After graduation from Trinity, I coached football for

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one year in the Northeast Independent School District

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to get my finances ready to go to

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graduate school.

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We won the district championships in three sports,

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and I have to tell you, it was

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one of the most enjoyable years of my

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life.

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It was lots of fun.

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I was offered a great job right after

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that, and I talked to Jesus about possibly

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pastoring 60 sweaty boys wearing helmets rather than

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a lot of people with lots of problems.

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Heaven said no.

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So I, in the fall of 1964, enrolled

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in North Texas State, now North Texas University

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in Denton, and completed my master's degree in

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the summer of 1966.

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In the summer of 66, I was preaching

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a revival in Beaumont, Texas with Pastor R

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.R. Taylor.

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I was about to make a decision that

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would change my life forever.

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God was about to bring me back to

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San Antonio.

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Two couples drove down to Beaumont from San

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Antonio, James Roy Taylor and his wife Jean,

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and CB and Joanne Singleton.

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And they asked me, said, would you consider

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coming to San Antonio to start a church?

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I said, do you have a building?

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They said, no.

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I said, do you have a congregation?

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They said, no.

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I said, do you have any financial funding?

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They said, no.

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I said, how many do you have?

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They said, us.

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I said, man, I've never seen such an

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opportunity like this.

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Sounds like the will of God.

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And so we started.

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The first Sunday in October 1966, we started

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in a home because that's all we could

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afford.

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We leased a vacant storefront building on Loop

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410 across from the Broadway Bank.

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We started growing very quickly.

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Every Saturday night, I would call every family

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that was on my list to determine exactly

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how many people were coming to church the

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next Sunday morning.

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And then Saturday night, I would go down

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to the church and put out 10 seats

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less than the people that were coming.

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Why?

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Because every Sunday, they would leave the church

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saying, we had to have more seats.

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They didn't know I had that jury rigged

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from the word go.

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They were absolutely certain we were broke.

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We lost our lease in about six months

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to the Oppenheimers.

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That's where I learned the devil is in

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the details.

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You better read a contract with at least

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two lawyers.

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I asked Dr. Laurie, president of Trinity University,

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if we could use the Earl Sam Center

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for six months while we were working on

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our church.

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Dr. Laurie said yes.

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God bless the Presbyterians.

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Dr. Laurie was a gracious man and he's

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heaven today.

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We found the property we could pay for

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on Nacogdoches Road, 2938 Nacogdoches Road.

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We had just enough money to buy the

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land.

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I was 26 years of age and had

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never pastored a church before.

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Our church was a new congregation, a new

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congregation that had no wealth, a new congregation

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that had no denomination to support us.

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We looked like poster children for failure.

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No bank would back us and so we

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went to the Security Church Finance of Houston.

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We got $65,000 from them from Joe

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Lee Todd who attended Reagan High School with

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me and we wouldn't have gotten that money

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if I hadn't have known Joe Lee Todd.

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Joe Lee Todd told the president, he said,

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I know that man and if he said

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he'll pay you back, he will pay you

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back.

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We gave him the money and they took

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a gamble to give us $65,000.

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It wasn't a lot of money then and

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it's nothing now but that helped us buy

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that property and that church was built by

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myself and about 8 or 10 men who

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worked on that church every night except Wednesday.

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We would take up money on Sunday, buy

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as much material as we could on Monday

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and work all week.

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It was cash and carry.

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That's exactly what it was.

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Our first winter on Nacogdoches Road, it was

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record cold.

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We had poured the foundation.

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We had put up the studs.

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Now this is a building that's square.

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It's just a little A-frame church hold

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250 people and we had the naked studs

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there and the rafters were overhead and that

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was it.

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We had the foundation under us and we

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gathered for church.

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It was freezing.

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People were singing Amazing Grace and smoke was

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coming out of their mouth like they were

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smoking cigars just about that far.

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But tears were running down their face because

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we knew God was with us.

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We knew that in the eyes of men

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we didn't have a chance in this world

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of surviving but God put his hand on

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us and helped us get that church ready.

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It took one year to finish that little

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church but when it was finished it was

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beautiful from front door to back and already

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full on Sunday morning.

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If you were a member of that first

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church at Nacogdoches Road I want you to

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please stand.

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Most of them came this Sunday morning.

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Do we have anyone here this morning who

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was there?

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My first major book was written here in

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1971 while I was on Nacogdoches Road.

549
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,620
It was called Invasion of Demons.

550
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,120
It was published by Fleming H.

551
00:23:51,260 --> 00:23:51,540
Revelle.

552
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,400
It was a best seller and it split

553
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,100
the church.

554
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:58,440
Pentecostals didn't believe that demons existed in America

555
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,400
and didn't believe that they could function in

556
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,040
the church.

557
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,080
I was told when I went to Bible

558
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,360
school that they functioned in foreign countries where

559
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,700
people were illiterate and they were poor.

560
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,480
And I couldn't understand why if there were

561
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:19,800
demons in Mexico they couldn't get across and

562
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:19,900
I said fine.

563
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:20,800
He said you're impertinent.

564
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,520
I said good.

565
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,600
One lady told me after I wrote this

566
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,660
book and people were starting to read and

567
00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:28,500
said Pastor Hagee I don't bother the devil

568
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:29,980
and the devil doesn't bother me.

569
00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:32,380
And I looked at her and responded lady

570
00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:34,480
you don't have enough of God to get

571
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,900
a used demon to chase you.

572
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:38,700
She was offended.

573
00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:39,880
She quit the church.

574
00:24:42,670 --> 00:24:45,450
In December of 71 a demonized man walked

575
00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:52,330
into our church with a loaded gun on

576
00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:54,350
a Wednesday night and announced to the church

577
00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:55,810
he had come to shoot me in front

578
00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:58,630
of the congregation to prove that Satan had

579
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:59,810
more power than God.

580
00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:02,430
From a distance of eight feet he emptied

581
00:25:02,430 --> 00:25:04,270
every bullet in that gun.

582
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:07,610
The supernatural power of God protected me from

583
00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:10,130
that man and I am here today to

584
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:11,930
say that there is more power in the

585
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:13,710
word of God than all the devils in

586
00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:13,970
hell.

587
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:25,610
The church was packed to overflowing every Sunday.

588
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:30,050
We met a wonderful young missionary and in

589
00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:31,770
a very short time we helped him to

590
00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:34,870
build a major church in Ciudad Victoria a

591
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:36,890
Bible school to teach men and women of

592
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:38,870
Mexico how to minister to their people.

593
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:42,850
There were 52 village churches that Johnny reached

594
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:43,510
by plane.

595
00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:45,550
He was a fantastic bush pilot.

596
00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:48,130
And an orphanage that we bought from a

597
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:48,950
Mexican governor.

598
00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:50,550
It had 200 acres.

599
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:53,090
It had orange trees, lemon trees its own

600
00:25:53,090 --> 00:26:00,050
irrigation system a swimming pool and by American

601
00:26:00,050 --> 00:26:04,110
standards by Mexican standards it was absolutely unbelievable.

602
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:07,750
Tragically Johnny was killed in a plane crash

603
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:10,170
and the work in Mexico was then and

604
00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:12,890
now continues to be headed by Ursel Lewis

605
00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:13,550
and his family.

606
00:26:13,670 --> 00:26:14,970
Ursel where are you?

607
00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:15,410
There you are.

608
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:16,010
Please stand.

609
00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:18,110
Would you give this man 35 years in

610
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:29,360
Mexico to show you how the

611
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,300
fruitful vine of Cornerstone is growing.

612
00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:36,820
He's a talented young man.

613
00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:39,100
He's married to a very brilliant young lady

614
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,120
graduated from the university.

615
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,940
Paul came to me one day and said

616
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:45,640
Pastor I have the opportunity to get on

617
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
television in Mexico but I don't have the

618
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,020
money and I don't have the equipment.

619
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,580
I said I've been there.

620
00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:52,660
I know exactly how you feel.

621
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:54,940
So I gave him the money and I

622
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:56,680
gave him the cameras and I gave him

623
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,580
the switchers and I gave him everything he

624
00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:06,480
needed to start.

625
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:07,120
That's fine.

626
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:08,600
They don't know that you're not in a

627
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,680
million dollar studio.

628
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Take off.

629
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,420
He has a fabulous television ministry going at

630
00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:15,000
this time.

631
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,700
Right now he and his wife are having

632
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,480
marriage counseling seminars over the year to 42

633
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280
Hispanic nations throughout South America.

634
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,500
Give the Lord praise for his faithfulness.

635
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,760
So we moved from Nacogdoches Road out to

636
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,380
Wincrest in 1972.

637
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,260
We bought 14 acres on I-35.

638
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760
I told the architect that I'd gone to

639
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,620
school with to build all we could pay

640
00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:46,900
for.

641
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,700
That was 750 seats.

642
00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:52,600
When the church congregation saw those blueprints they

643
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680
said with one voice we will never fill

644
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,420
that church.

645
00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:58,900
There's just no way we're going to fill

646
00:27:58,900 --> 00:27:59,720
that church.

647
00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:02,360
No one in that church had ever attended

648
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,880
a church bigger than the church we were

649
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,480
in and that wouldn't hold but 250.

650
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:09,480
I was called a lot of things then

651
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,680
and none of them were good but by

652
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,660
faith they become fearful and they say things

653
00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:17,700
they later regret.

654
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,380
By faith and bulldog grit we built that

655
00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:23,640
second church and it was packed to the

656
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,120
back walls the first Sunday.

657
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:27,420
We went to two services and it was

658
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:28,200
still full.

659
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720
The church expanded so quickly I felt like

660
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,100
a guest speaker at my own church.

661
00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:37,060
I kept looking for that corporal's guard that

662
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:38,580
had moved in with me originally.

663
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:45,600
We started something with various trained spiritual leaders

664
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160
so that everyone would have a spiritual point

665
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,960
of contact.

666
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,540
After the book Invasion of Demons I started

667
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,320
looking for someone that had more experience in

668
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,540
this area than I did because I had

669
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:57,020
none.

670
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,200
I finally found an Englishman by the name

671
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,440
of Derek Prince.

672
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Derek Prince I called him on the phone.

673
00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:06,260
How many of you remember Derek Prince?

674
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:07,240
Good.

675
00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:10,860
Derek asked what denomination are you?

676
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:13,820
I said well I was raised in a

677
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:15,840
non-presidently our church is non-denominational.

678
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Derek said very kindly Pastor Hagee if I

679
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280
come to your church and present my teaching

680
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,780
on demonology it will tear your church apart.

681
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,980
I said if you can tear my church

682
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:28,520
apart preaching the word of God come down

683
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,140
here and we'll both tear it to the

684
00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:32,820
ground and start over to have a grander

685
00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:34,840
revelation of what God is trying to do.

686
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:49,340
He came and it proved to be I've

687
00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:50,440
been in the church since I was two

688
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560
weeks old several times a week.

689
00:29:53,380 --> 00:29:55,240
Brother Prince taught the first two nights for

690
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,840
two hours.

691
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,880
He was British.

692
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,220
He was a British professor.

693
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,700
He was saved by reading the word of

694
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:00,960
God.

695
00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:04,040
He was a brilliant theologian and he taught

696
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,280
like a college professor.

697
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440
He laid a foundation down that was biblical

698
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,540
and undeniable.

699
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,280
The building was packed on the third night

700
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,360
the night of deliverance.

701
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:21,320
I couldn't believe no one left.

702
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,500
They had no idea what was about to

703
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:23,760
happen.

704
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,700
The New York Times was there.

705
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,400
They had two camera crews ready to go.

706
00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:33,080
Derek started the deliverance service calmly demanding the

707
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,220
spirit of witchcraft to come out.

708
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,020
What happened next was absolutely unbelievable.

709
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,000
I was standing up a dozen women 12

710
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,060
of them instantly jumped to their feet and

711
00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:50,100
started screaming teeth and tonsils.

712
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440
I mean just wide open.

713
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:55,420
I mean it was blowing your wig off.

714
00:30:58,260 --> 00:31:00,580
After about 30 seconds of that a 25

715
00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:03,120
year old man started running up the center

716
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
aisle and he knocked the communion off the

717
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,020
table.

718
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:08,860
He charged up on the platform after Derek

719
00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:11,340
and four big ushers took him down to

720
00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:14,060
the ground and there was the wildest wrestling

721
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:16,120
match you've ever seen in your life on

722
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,060
the platform and it lasted for 4 or

723
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:18,740
5 minutes.

724
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680
20 to 25 people at the same time

725
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,160
startlingly running in terror for the back door

726
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,880
of the church.

727
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,060
God was out of the box.

728
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:28,960
Too much was happening at one time.

729
00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:31,440
We lost those 25 I never saw them

730
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:31,720
again.

731
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,000
I stood on the platform I laughed so

732
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,860
hard I cried.

733
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,300
This was wonderful.

734
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,460
We had the wide world of wrestling going

735
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:42,140
on right here.

736
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:47,020
We had 12 women running around the back

737
00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:49,060
door it looked like a relay track meet.

738
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,700
The New York Times camera crew was running

739
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:54,260
all over that church taking pictures as fast

740
00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:55,000
as they could take it.

741
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,580
The wrestling match wasn't over and Derek was

742
00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:00,360
up there just calmly saying come on, come

743
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,740
on.

744
00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:02,980
It was quite a night.

745
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,040
If you were a member of that church

746
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,540
at Windcrest please stand.

747
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,180
You were a member at Windcrest please stand.

748
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,860
You went to the Windcrest church.

749
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:21,270
Give those wonderful people They were so grateful

750
00:32:21,270 --> 00:32:23,050
to lead us to the third church building

751
00:32:23,050 --> 00:32:25,250
on Loop 410 of Roletto Drive.

752
00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:27,910
This would be our church home from 1975

753
00:32:27,910 --> 00:32:29,450
until 1988.

754
00:32:30,190 --> 00:32:32,590
They built the church to seat 1200 people.

755
00:32:32,770 --> 00:32:35,110
Again we heard the mantra we'll never fill

756
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:35,330
it.

757
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:37,130
We'll never fill it.

758
00:32:37,970 --> 00:32:40,430
We had to fire the foundation crew first

759
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:41,430
rattle out of the box.

760
00:32:42,050 --> 00:32:44,070
They underbid the contract so they could get

761
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:44,270
it.

762
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:52,190
When they got the contract because we underbid

763
00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:54,810
it and I fired them on the spot.

764
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:56,130
I said get off the property.

765
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:58,090
You've broken your contract.

766
00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:59,070
We'll do it.

767
00:32:59,130 --> 00:33:00,810
They said you can't tie steel.

768
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:01,790
I said you're mistaken.

769
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:03,570
In the morning at 8 o'clock we're

770
00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:04,330
going to start learning.

771
00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:06,630
I told the men on the staff in

772
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:08,130
the church meet me in the morning with

773
00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:09,150
your blue jeans on.

774
00:33:09,490 --> 00:33:10,970
We're going to tie the steel for this

775
00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:11,510
foundation.

776
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:21,550
We found one person and for

777
00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:23,530
what that contract called for to come in

778
00:33:23,530 --> 00:33:23,870
on time.

779
00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:27,250
We have a job description on every employee

780
00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:30,310
at Cornerstone Church that says assist the pastor

781
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:32,770
as needed because here you never really know

782
00:33:32,770 --> 00:33:33,870
what you're going to get to do the

783
00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:34,390
next day.

784
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:39,410
On dedication day the church that could never

785
00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:41,990
be filled was packed to the back walls.

786
00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:44,190
Hundreds of people were in the lobby and

787
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:45,570
standing out in the front yard.

788
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:53,770
We went to two services dedication week for

789
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:54,390
church three.

790
00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:57,190
I started looking for property to build this

791
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:57,750
church.

792
00:33:58,030 --> 00:34:00,370
No I didn't tell anyone I was looking.

793
00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:02,670
I knew they just couldn't handle it so

794
00:34:02,670 --> 00:34:03,490
I didn't tell them.

795
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:08,810
Our parking lot at Loop 410 was an

796
00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:09,810
absolute nightmare.

797
00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:11,590
How many of you remember that parking lot?

798
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:14,650
They haven't forgotten the church but they never

799
00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:15,710
forget the parking lot.

800
00:34:16,949 --> 00:34:17,949
Here's how it worked.

801
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,780
We let everybody park in the parking lot.

802
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Every space was taken and parked between in

803
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,320
the lanes and they were just bumper to

804
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,820
bumper so we had a perfect gridlock and

805
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:37,560
we had two dismissals to every Sunday morning

806
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,120
service.

807
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,620
Those of you who were parked behind the

808
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:43,699
cars please get up and leave and we

809
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,340
let them leave and we sang a song

810
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,380
and when we'd sung long enough those of

811
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:51,679
you now who are legitimately parked now you

812
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:52,159
can go.

813
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,840
Those were the days when we had our

814
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,800
parking lot crew.

815
00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:59,280
That actually happened.

816
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,220
At the third church on Loop 410 God

817
00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:03,760
was faithful to give us the vision to

818
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200
preach the gospel to the world by television.

819
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:08,680
I said Lord I don't know how far

820
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
this will grow but I'm asking you to

821
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,800
open the doors to give us the ability

822
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,440
to reach the city and the nation and

823
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,100
the nations of the world to preach the

824
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,500
gospel and whatever door you open I'll walk

825
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:19,960
through it.

826
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,780
My wife was in the other room and

827
00:35:26,780 --> 00:35:28,380
I said to him do not let him

828
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,260
get on television.

829
00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:30,900
I'm over in the next room God I

830
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:31,780
want that television.

831
00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:33,760
We've got to get that done.

832
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,140
God's in heaven had to be laughing but

833
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:37,920
he heard two different prayers from the same

834
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,400
house.

835
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,720
So I formed something called Global Evangelism Television

836
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:43,480
Incorporated.

837
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,940
We hadn't telecast across the street yet but

838
00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:48,400
that was a good name.

839
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:51,380
Global Evangelism.

840
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,220
The Bible says the power of life and

841
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:57,560
death and the power of those things that

842
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,800
are not as though they are.

843
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
The Bible says whatsoever you say you shall

844
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:01,840
have.

845
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,940
Therefore if the Bible is true you need

846
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:05,640
to start talking where you want to go

847
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,420
and when you talk where you want to

848
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,680
go God will take you there.

849
00:36:16,090 --> 00:36:17,770
So as it worked out the city of

850
00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:19,910
San Antonio decided that they were going to

851
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:22,810
have a cable system and they brought the

852
00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:33,670
seven largest cable companies the

853
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:35,310
president of one of the companies went in

854
00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:36,590
and talked to one of the members of

855
00:36:36,590 --> 00:36:39,490
our church who owned the store and they

856
00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:41,170
met each other got to talking to each

857
00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:44,430
other found out what each other represented and

858
00:36:44,430 --> 00:36:46,870
the man that owned the store my church

859
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:48,730
member said to the president of the company

860
00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:52,250
said you know if you want to get

861
00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,650
that cable franchise you need to go over

862
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:55,590
and talk to Pastor Hagee.

863
00:36:55,690 --> 00:36:57,210
He says he knows the mayor and he

864
00:36:57,210 --> 00:36:58,810
knows about half of those city councilmen.

865
00:36:58,910 --> 00:37:00,410
They all go over to his Saturday morning

866
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:03,030
prayer meeting and they especially go over there

867
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:04,350
when it comes election time.

868
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,660
That hadn't stopped.

869
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,720
And so he came into my office like

870
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,080
his shirt tail was on fire.

871
00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:18,200
It took him 30 minutes to say will

872
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,740
you lobby for me to go downtown.

873
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,460
I said look I'm in the kingdom of

874
00:37:21,460 --> 00:37:21,740
God.

875
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,340
I don't do anything that God doesn't get

876
00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:25,320
a benefit from it.

877
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,440
I said you give me a contract that

878
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,320
gives me the authority to preach the gospel

879
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,420
24 7 for absolutely free and my attorney

880
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:34,800
approves of that contract.

881
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,740
I said I'll go down and talk for

882
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:37,940
you.

883
00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:40,260
He said you're asking a whole lot.

884
00:37:40,740 --> 00:37:42,780
I said 90 percent of something is better

885
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:44,160
than 100 percent of nothing.

886
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:45,160
It's your call.

887
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,600
He ground his teeth for a little and

888
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,100
he said OK.

889
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,320
He left.

890
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600
He came back the next day with a

891
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,000
contract.

892
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:57,380
I took it to my attorney.

893
00:37:57,940 --> 00:38:00,140
We got all of the buzz words worked

894
00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:02,760
out and believe me if you don't have

895
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,960
a good attorney get one.

896
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,720
You need one.

897
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,820
You may need two and they got everything

898
00:38:07,820 --> 00:38:08,520
worked out.

899
00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:10,120
I went down I talked to the mayor

900
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,040
talked enough to the city council to have

901
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,700
a quorum by the grace and mercy of

902
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:15,020
God.

903
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,180
He won out of all those other seven

904
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,780
people he won the cable franchise for San

905
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:22,180
Antonio.

906
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,680
When they got 50,000 people on that

907
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,940
franchise we are presenting San Antonio with a

908
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:28,280
gospel.

909
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,000
We're letting every gospel preacher in town preach

910
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,840
who wants to preach absolutely free.

911
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,680
I mean it was like Disneyland.

912
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,540
We're the most loved people in town.

913
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,420
We're taking TBN down.

914
00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:42,700
We're taking CBN down.

915
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,240
We're taking the PTL club down and at

916
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,840
about that time I got a call from

917
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,860
Paul Crouch and Paul Crouch said I want

918
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:53,040
to be on your cable system.

919
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,500
It's one of the largest in America.

920
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,500
I said I want to be on TBN.

921
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080
I said I'll give you Monday through Friday

922
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,800
three hours.

923
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:02,580
You let me on TBN national TV on

924
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:03,740
Sunday morning for free.

925
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:06,920
I could hear him sucking wind on the

926
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,440
other end.

927
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,460
We got together.

928
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,740
For 12 years I was on TBN nationwide

929
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,780
absolutely free.

930
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:19,440
Think about that.

931
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:29,110
Our television department started out in a room

932
00:39:29,110 --> 00:39:31,450
8 by 12 with one lady answering the

933
00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:31,770
phone.

934
00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:38,330
Whenever they sold that franchise we had to

935
00:39:38,330 --> 00:39:40,350
start paying for our television time and it

936
00:39:40,350 --> 00:39:43,230
cost millions of dollars per year.

937
00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:46,510
But God has made it impossible for us

938
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:48,570
to reach the nations of the world preaching

939
00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:52,410
the uncompromising gospel of Jesus Christ in every

940
00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:54,930
language that we can get it translated in.

941
00:39:55,370 --> 00:39:57,550
God is a faithful God who will help

942
00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:58,690
you do the impossible.

943
00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:01,650
If what you're doing brings glory and honor

944
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:04,450
to his name and builds his kingdom, nothing

945
00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:06,690
is impossible to you and I challenge you

946
00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:08,950
to try it in every adventure of your

947
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:09,370
life.

948
00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:11,930
Nothing is impossible with God.

949
00:40:12,050 --> 00:40:13,510
Give him praise and glory in the house

950
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:13,950
of God.

951
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:23,740
After we built the television, we bought our

952
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:26,680
television cameras, we built TV studios in the

953
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,580
back of the church over in 410 and

954
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:32,480
we started to build a television tower so

955
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,480
we could telecast.

956
00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:35,400
I want to tell you this that whenever

957
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,020
you start to do something for the Lord

958
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,860
that has real potential the devil shows up

959
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:41,840
with every devil in hell to fight you

960
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,620
and see if he can knock you out

961
00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:44,460
in the first round.

962
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:49,740
If what you're doing doesn't have resistance, you're

963
00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:51,280
not doing anything worth doing.

964
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,380
If it's easy, something is wrong.

965
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:58,360
An 85 year old doctor started telling neighbors

966
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,500
that live behind our church that that television

967
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,920
tower was a radiating tower and it would

968
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,620
give you cancer.

969
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,820
He had a riot started in that city

970
00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:07,860
in 24 hours.

971
00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:10,100
The city attorneys for the city of Castle

972
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,920
Hills called for a special meeting from me

973
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,420
and the city council at city hall.

974
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,460
We were in the newspaper again.

975
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,720
No, it was not good.

976
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,480
At the city hall meeting the building was

977
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,400
packed, people standing outside on the lawn saying

978
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
very unkind things about our church.

979
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,280
The mayor called for what I will call

980
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,820
this high tech lynching to order with the

981
00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:33,480
three witnesses and they said we do not

982
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,080
want a mega church in Castle Hills.

983
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,240
We do not want a mega preacher and

984
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,040
we want John Hagee and Cornerstone Church to

985
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,600
leave Castle Hills.

986
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,800
I said we would be delighted to leave.

987
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,720
I brought a TV tower expert to that

988
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,000
meeting from Washington, D.C. who was the

989
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,420
most knowledgeable man in the world about television

990
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:52,860
towers.

991
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,380
He said it was a radiating tower principally,

992
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,480
but the fluorescent light bulb in your kitchen

993
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,580
put out more radiation than that tower.

994
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:04,300
You could live under that tower for 200

995
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:05,600
years and it would have not hurt you.

996
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:09,160
Everyone in the audience snarled at him and

997
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:09,880
he sat down.

998
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:11,700
The mayor said we want you to take

999
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,100
the tower down and I said we will

1000
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,340
take the tower down when hell freezes over,

1001
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,480
not coming down.

1002
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:25,360
He said we are going to sue you.

1003
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:26,240
I said get after it.

1004
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,120
I have got a lawyer too.

1005
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,010
Our lawyers met and we settled out of

1006
00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:33,270
court.

1007
00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:35,930
The settlement was to move the tower to

1008
00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:37,810
the front of the church property.

1009
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:41,250
We had a Holy Spirit dove painted on

1010
00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:43,390
the dish and when we hung it up

1011
00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:46,450
there the newspaper called it the ruptured duck.

1012
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,420
True story.

1013
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:53,720
That television ministry has grown until it now

1014
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:54,780
reaches the world.

1015
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:56,840
And I want to thank those of you

1016
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,820
who are in this room and thank our

1017
00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:01,500
television salt covenant partners around the world.

1018
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,720
You have made it possible for every nation

1019
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,900
and tribe on planet earth to hear the

1020
00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:09,700
glorious gospel of Jesus Christ.

1021
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,260
God bless you and thank you.

1022
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:22,750
In 1981 we birthed the night to honor

1023
00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:23,250
Israel.

1024
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:27,150
When the IDF blew up the nuclear reactor

1025
00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:29,950
in Iraq I felt like it was the

1026
00:43:29,950 --> 00:43:32,450
thing to do to tell the world that

1027
00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:34,270
we felt the Jewish people had done the

1028
00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:37,190
world a favor by taking nuclear weapons out

1029
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:38,930
of the hand of Saddam Hussein.

1030
00:43:39,310 --> 00:43:41,290
And we had a night to honor Israel.

1031
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:44,910
And whenever we had that night to honor

1032
00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:46,630
Israel we called a press conference.

1033
00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:49,530
My picture was in the newspaper with the

1034
00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:50,070
rabbi.

1035
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:53,170
And within an hour of that newspaper hitting

1036
00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:55,270
the streets the church started getting threats.

1037
00:43:55,630 --> 00:43:57,330
We're going to shoot your preacher by Friday.

1038
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:59,450
I called the FBI and said what do

1039
00:43:59,450 --> 00:44:01,410
you do when someone threatens to shoot you?

1040
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:05,940
I said, you know they don't have a

1041
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:07,980
class in seminary what to do when someone

1042
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:08,800
tries to shoot you.

1043
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,600
And the FBI agent said well I tell

1044
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,360
you what do you do?

1045
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,660
You drive a different way to work every

1046
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:15,000
week.

1047
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,040
I said do you have to go to

1048
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,980
the FBI academy to learn such wise things

1049
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,100
like that?

1050
00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:24,620
But I did drive a different way to

1051
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:25,600
work every week.

1052
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,700
We got to the event.

1053
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,620
The event was packed as the rabbi was

1054
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:32,060
saying the benediction.

1055
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,540
This is Rabbi Scheinberg.

1056
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,840
The security came to me and said Pastor

1057
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,800
Hagee we've got a bomb threat on this

1058
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,140
building.

1059
00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:41,120
It's supposed to blow up in five minutes.

1060
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:42,820
I said is it serious?

1061
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,400
He said you might have right it's serious.

1062
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:46,740
All my security team is gone and I'm

1063
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:47,740
the only one here.

1064
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,800
I said dear God don't let this rabbi

1065
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,360
pray like Moses right now.

1066
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,360
Let him pray like a Presbyterian late for

1067
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,780
lunch.

1068
00:45:03,350 --> 00:45:04,610
God answered my prayer.

1069
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:05,850
I went to the podium and I said

1070
00:45:05,850 --> 00:45:07,350
I hate to end this wonderful night on

1071
00:45:07,350 --> 00:45:09,650
a negative note but this building is now

1072
00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:12,150
about three minutes supposed to blow up in

1073
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:12,770
three minutes.

1074
00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:15,630
I want to tell you the Christians vaporized.

1075
00:45:18,220 --> 00:45:20,800
If we would have had an Olympian coach

1076
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,380
there with a stopwatch we would have had

1077
00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:25,480
a new United States 440 relay team right

1078
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:25,820
there.

1079
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,740
They broke a record getting out of that

1080
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:28,140
building.

1081
00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:31,100
The Jewish people accustomed to that just flipped

1082
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,460
their hands if I had said kosher hot

1083
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:35,240
dogs are available in the lobby for those

1084
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,340
of you that would like to stay another

1085
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:36,900
half hour.

1086
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
A night to honor Israel last year was

1087
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,960
held in 70 major cities across America as

1088
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,680
we have developed a national organization called Christians

1089
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,960
United for Israel that's giving every Christian in

1090
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,920
America every pastor and every parachurch organization who

1091
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,060
believes the Bible is accurate when it says

1092
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,620
I will bless those who bless you.

1093
00:45:57,780 --> 00:45:59,940
Who believes in Isaiah 62 and Isaiah 62

1094
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:01,500
is true when it says that we should

1095
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:03,800
stand up and speak up for Israel who

1096
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,500
believes that Romans 15 27 is the truth

1097
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,940
when it says if we as the Gentiles

1098
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:11,480
have benefited from the Jewish spiritual things we

1099
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,360
the Gentiles owe it to the Jewish people

1100
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,160
to minister them and their material and their

1101
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,100
spiritual things.

1102
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:20,180
If you are watching this television program and

1103
00:46:20,180 --> 00:46:22,340
you are a Christian or a pastor and

1104
00:46:22,340 --> 00:46:23,920
you want to become a part of Christians

1105
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,820
United for Israel go online to www.cufi

1106
00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:29,880
.org and we will contact you.

1107
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Because from coast to coast we are doing

1108
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,660
exciting things.

1109
00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:35,800
In July we are going to Washington and

1110
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,320
if you haven't been you need to go.

1111
00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:40,540
In 1985 we had the blizzard of 85.

1112
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,140
How many of you remember that snow blizzard?

1113
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:43,920
Fifteen inches of snow.

1114
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,100
I had always told my congregation we will

1115
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:49,500
never dismiss church whatever the weather is.

1116
00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:52,540
Rain, sleet, snow makes no difference.

1117
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,320
We will have church if hell freezes over

1118
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,620
we will be having church.

1119
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:01,900
It snowed 15 inches.

1120
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,100
The mayor everybody would say don't leave your

1121
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:05,640
house.

1122
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,020
So Sunday morning I got up an hour

1123
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:11,960
early from my front door to my Dodge

1124
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,900
van I fell down twice.

1125
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,300
Flat on my tush.

1126
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,820
And I will tell you the joy of

1127
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:20,780
the Lord left me on that second bench

1128
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:21,140
of that.

1129
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:25,120
I got in my Dodge and I went

1130
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,360
down.

1131
00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:27,160
You couldn't see where the roads were I

1132
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,660
knew where they were and I just headed

1133
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:30,160
to the nearest stop sign.

1134
00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:31,880
And I was driving that Dodge as fast

1135
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,480
as it would go.

1136
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:33,300
There was a problem.

1137
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:35,400
I had never driven in snow before.

1138
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,060
And as I was driving down the road

1139
00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:39,800
my car was going up in the air

1140
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,500
like that.

1141
00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:43,220
Because the snow was packing up under the

1142
00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:43,600
wheels.

1143
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,840
I backed up hit the snow again.

1144
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200
It took me 45 minutes to get to

1145
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,460
church.

1146
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:49,900
And I generally get there in 5 to

1147
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:50,460
7 minutes.

1148
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:52,500
I walked in the church there was only

1149
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:53,220
one guy there.

1150
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:53,920
Dutch Eilert.

1151
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:56,980
Dutch Eilert was a German member that he

1152
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:59,140
had everything his father ever gave him for

1153
00:47:59,140 --> 00:47:59,920
four generations.

1154
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,400
And he had a coat.

1155
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,260
Every coat he owned owned.

1156
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:07,720
And his arms were sticking out like this.

1157
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:15,200
He looked like that guy Schultz on television

1158
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,360
if you said I know nothing he looked

1159
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,160
just like him.

1160
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:21,000
He looked at me pastor and he said

1161
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,780
today hell froze over.

1162
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,780
So we went out on the church side

1163
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:35,520
and said church services dismissed.

1164
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:36,800
Hell froze over today.

1165
00:48:40,330 --> 00:48:44,310
We came to this church in 1987.

1166
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:49,360
We built the television studios.

1167
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:52,460
We formed the government of 12.

1168
00:48:55,070 --> 00:48:57,850
We bought the Ursuline Academy in 1992.

1169
00:49:00,010 --> 00:49:01,390
We bought that academy.

1170
00:49:02,650 --> 00:49:04,910
Was called by a realtor and said pastor

1171
00:49:04,910 --> 00:49:07,550
would you like to buy this school.

1172
00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:09,270
I said I'd like to look at it.

1173
00:49:10,090 --> 00:49:11,590
We had on the blueprints.

1174
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:15,930
We're actually supposed to start that morning with

1175
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:16,630
a contractor.

1176
00:49:17,550 --> 00:49:19,010
I said I have a lunch appointment.

1177
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:20,570
I really can't get there till 1 o

1178
00:49:20,570 --> 00:49:42,790
'clock in

1179
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:46,410
the morning.

1180
00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:46,830
I said I'd like to look at this

1181
00:49:46,830 --> 00:49:47,310
school.

1182
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:49,110
He said no problem.

1183
00:49:49,590 --> 00:49:50,550
I said let's look at it.

1184
00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:51,370
We looked at it.

1185
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:52,490
It was in perfect condition.

1186
00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:54,210
Absolutely perfect condition.

1187
00:49:54,810 --> 00:49:57,650
I told her after the interview I said

1188
00:49:57,650 --> 00:49:58,890
we're going to buy this.

1189
00:49:58,990 --> 00:50:00,470
I'll have to get the permission from the

1190
00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:01,150
executive board.

1191
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:01,790
I called them.

1192
00:50:01,870 --> 00:50:02,790
They came to my house.

1193
00:50:03,010 --> 00:50:04,370
We agreed to buy it.

1194
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:06,110
They thought I was getting ready to resign

1195
00:50:06,110 --> 00:50:07,730
because that was the only time we'd ever

1196
00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:10,590
had an emergency executive meeting for anything but

1197
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,590
as the pastor of this church I cannot

1198
00:50:12,590 --> 00:50:14,370
spend the money of this church without their

1199
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:14,730
approval.

1200
00:50:14,910 --> 00:50:16,450
So we called them over there.

1201
00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:28,750
I said

1202
00:50:28,750 --> 00:50:41,070
I

1203
00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:42,350
don't want you to call the press.

1204
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:43,670
I don't want you to talk to anyone

1205
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:44,610
that we're talking.

1206
00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:46,430
I said I want to close this thing

1207
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:47,870
right this deal by the close of business

1208
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:48,370
Friday.

1209
00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:50,750
She said, we've been trying to sell this

1210
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:52,490
school for two years plus, and you want

1211
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:53,390
to buy it in two days.

1212
00:50:53,470 --> 00:50:54,810
I said, that's exactly right.

1213
00:50:55,170 --> 00:50:56,810
She said, our lawyers would have to work

1214
00:50:56,810 --> 00:50:57,210
all night.

1215
00:50:57,330 --> 00:50:57,850
I said, let them.

1216
00:50:58,070 --> 00:50:59,730
I said, it's good for them, be a

1217
00:50:59,730 --> 00:51:00,430
new experience.

1218
00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:06,310
The next day we met at 10 o

1219
00:51:06,310 --> 00:51:08,630
'clock, we had breakfast, my lawyers, their lawyers.

1220
00:51:09,310 --> 00:51:11,050
She said to her lawyer, she said, shall

1221
00:51:11,050 --> 00:51:12,410
we tell Pastor Hagee the problem?

1222
00:51:12,990 --> 00:51:14,090
I said, here it is.

1223
00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:15,950
We're getting ready to be thrown under the

1224
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:16,350
bus.

1225
00:51:17,290 --> 00:51:19,590
She said, the nuns that are on the

1226
00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:20,690
property, what do you want to do with

1227
00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:20,810
them?

1228
00:51:20,810 --> 00:51:22,190
I said, what's the problem with the nuns?

1229
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:24,410
They were seven or eight of them, age

1230
00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:25,730
75 to 92.

1231
00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:27,490
They'd been all of their life teaching at

1232
00:51:27,490 --> 00:51:27,950
this school.

1233
00:51:30,010 --> 00:51:32,430
She said, well, the archdiocese wants them to

1234
00:51:32,430 --> 00:51:32,910
move off.

1235
00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:34,250
I said, well, there's no need for them

1236
00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:34,730
to move.

1237
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:37,350
I said, I will give them the lease

1238
00:51:37,350 --> 00:51:39,350
of this nine bedroom house they have.

1239
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:41,370
We'll pay all the utilities and I'll give

1240
00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:42,890
it to them for $10 a year.

1241
00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:45,030
And I'll pay the first five years out

1242
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:45,690
of my own pocket.

1243
00:51:45,790 --> 00:51:46,610
I pulled out $50.

1244
00:51:47,110 --> 00:51:48,490
I said, they're taking care of them for

1245
00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:49,350
the next five years.

1246
00:51:49,410 --> 00:51:50,330
What's the problem now?

1247
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:52,910
She said, are you serious?

1248
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:54,410
I said, absolutely, I'm serious.

1249
00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:55,890
She looked at her lawyer and said, get

1250
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:56,250
it done.

1251
00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:09,310
We bought the Ursuline Academy.

1252
00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:13,790
Shortly thereafter, the FBI called here and said,

1253
00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:16,630
preacher, you're gonna get a bomb.

1254
00:52:16,890 --> 00:52:19,830
There's a known bomber that's going to send

1255
00:52:19,830 --> 00:52:21,130
a bomb to your ministry.

1256
00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:24,250
He sent a bomb to President Clinton and

1257
00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:24,990
it went off.

1258
00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:27,710
He sent a bomb to us and we

1259
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:28,550
defused it.

1260
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:30,230
He sent a bomb to you.

1261
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:32,610
He has enough makings in his apartment before

1262
00:52:32,610 --> 00:52:34,590
we arrested him to do 12 more bombs.

1263
00:52:35,090 --> 00:52:35,850
Be very careful.

1264
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:37,950
The bomb squad showed up out here.

1265
00:52:38,590 --> 00:52:41,190
We had ambulances in the parking lot, fire

1266
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:44,010
trucks in the parking lot, German shepherd dogs

1267
00:52:44,010 --> 00:52:45,510
sniffing everything that moved.

1268
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:46,810
And if you think that won't shut you

1269
00:52:46,810 --> 00:52:49,490
down, I'll tell you, every employee that walked

1270
00:52:49,490 --> 00:52:51,290
down the hall, thank God that their tennis

1271
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:53,510
shoes didn't smell like cordite gunpowder.

1272
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,460
Monday, I'm watching the television, see where the

1273
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:03,080
roof of the Dallas post office blew up.

1274
00:53:03,860 --> 00:53:06,400
The FBI called and said, that's your bomb.

1275
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,920
I was headed for your house.

1276
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:10,920
God protected us.

1277
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,820
A few days later, the Assistant Attorney General

1278
00:53:13,820 --> 00:53:16,640
of the United States, the head of the

1279
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,060
FBI counter-terrorism and the assistant to the

1280
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:25,300
Attorney General came and started talking about what

1281
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:26,160
they were going to do.

1282
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:27,320
And I said, I don't really care what

1283
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,480
your legal procedures are going to be.

1284
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,380
I'm sure you're competent.

1285
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,580
I said, all I want to know is

1286
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:33,720
why did he send me a bomb and

1287
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:35,880
why did he send Bill Clinton a bomb?

1288
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,720
What do we have in common?

1289
00:53:49,290 --> 00:53:51,370
They said, well, our psychologists feel this man

1290
00:53:51,370 --> 00:53:53,130
hates all forms of authority.

1291
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:56,430
And the head of the terrorism guy, he

1292
00:53:56,430 --> 00:53:58,450
looked like a linebacker for the Cowboys.

1293
00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:00,850
He had shoulders this wide and tapered down

1294
00:54:00,850 --> 00:54:01,450
like that.

1295
00:54:01,450 --> 00:54:03,410
He pulled a note out of top of

1296
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:04,450
his pocket and he read it.

1297
00:54:04,550 --> 00:54:05,470
He said, I knew you were going to

1298
00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:05,930
ask that.

1299
00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:07,250
And I have this note.

1300
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:09,610
And the note says, I heard Pastor Hagee

1301
00:54:09,610 --> 00:54:11,930
preaching on the television and knew it was

1302
00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:13,190
the absolute truth.

1303
00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:15,470
And the only way to stop the absolute

1304
00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:17,370
truth is to kill the messenger.

1305
00:54:20,330 --> 00:54:21,590
And when I'm telling you that we are

1306
00:54:21,590 --> 00:54:24,750
in a spiritual dogfight and a spiritual war,

1307
00:54:25,110 --> 00:54:26,090
I'm not kidding you.

1308
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:28,110
It is a spiritual war.

1309
00:54:28,750 --> 00:54:30,810
And the further you send the light beam,

1310
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:32,670
the greater resistance you get.

1311
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,070
And right now we are around the world.

1312
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:38,650
I'm here to testify to the glory of

1313
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:39,010
God.

1314
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:41,330
We serve an all-sufficient God.

1315
00:54:41,610 --> 00:54:43,430
We serve a God who is faithful.

1316
00:54:43,970 --> 00:54:45,750
We serve a God who is never failing.

1317
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:48,190
We serve a God who is always there.

1318
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:50,590
We serve a Lord who has never failed

1319
00:54:50,590 --> 00:54:50,890
us.

1320
00:54:51,250 --> 00:54:52,950
Give him praise and glory in the house

1321
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:53,450
of God.

1322
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:04,710
In closing, I want to say my God

1323
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:08,030
was faithful to bring into my life the

1324
00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:10,110
most beautiful and wonderful wife in the world

1325
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:10,690
in Diana.

1326
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:13,730
Diana is a Proverbs 31 woman.

1327
00:55:13,950 --> 00:55:14,530
She is loving.

1328
00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:15,430
She is gracious.

1329
00:55:15,730 --> 00:55:16,510
She is compassionate.

1330
00:55:17,090 --> 00:55:18,490
She is a master organizer.

1331
00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:19,730
She's a forceful leader.

1332
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:21,470
She's a marvelous mother.

1333
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:23,170
She's one of the best cooks on planet

1334
00:55:23,170 --> 00:55:23,570
earth.

1335
00:55:23,790 --> 00:55:26,130
And she is the sunshine of my life.

1336
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:27,490
She is, where'd she go?

1337
00:55:27,970 --> 00:55:29,050
There she is right here.

1338
00:55:29,310 --> 00:55:31,010
Stand up baby, stand up.

1339
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,960
God has been very faithful to bring into

1340
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,940
our lives five wonderful children.

1341
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:11,060
And the most beautiful thing of our children

1342
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:14,800
is not that they've graduated from college, not

1343
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,100
that they have good jobs, but is that

1344
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:18,820
every one of them are serving the Lord

1345
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:21,100
in a very practical way.

1346
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:34,190
They have presented us with eight of the

1347
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:36,670
most sensational grandchildren on planet earth.

1348
00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:38,830
And I thank God for every one of

1349
00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:38,970
them.

1350
00:56:39,130 --> 00:56:41,150
God is a never failing God.

1351
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:43,470
As David said, the Lord is my refuge.

1352
00:56:43,870 --> 00:56:44,810
He is my fortress.

1353
00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:45,870
He is the high tower.

1354
00:56:45,970 --> 00:56:46,890
He is my strength.

1355
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:47,850
He is my shield.

1356
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:50,230
And Buckler, though a thousand may fall at

1357
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:52,030
my right hand and 10,000 at my

1358
00:56:52,030 --> 00:56:54,670
left, I will not fear for Jehovah God

1359
00:56:54,670 --> 00:56:55,950
is my keeper and defender.

1360
00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:58,610
Had the Lord not been on our side,

1361
00:56:58,730 --> 00:57:01,050
we would have failed miserably and long ago.

1362
00:57:01,570 --> 00:57:04,030
But because of his faithfulness, because of his

1363
00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:06,890
amazing grace, because he is a defender of

1364
00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:10,070
the righteous, because of his loving kindness, because

1365
00:57:10,070 --> 00:57:12,530
of his mercies that are renewed every morning,

1366
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:15,750
we have survived and we have served our

1367
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:17,390
generation by the will of God.

1368
00:57:17,890 --> 00:57:20,110
Cornerstone Church is God's church.

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It was built for his glory.

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It was built for his kingdom.

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It was built for the next generation.

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Tens of thousands have come to know Christ

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and the harvest field is greater than ever

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before.

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This is the church triumphant.

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Our past is going to be far less

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than our future because our future is greater

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than our past.

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The latter years are going to be greater

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than the former years for the best is

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yet to do.

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You have been listening to the From the

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Pulpit and Classic Sermon series.

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This week you heard John Hagee with his

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message, Great is Thy Faithfulness.

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Tune in next week for another powerful message

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from God's word on From the Pulpit and

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Classic Sermons.