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Father, I pray that the words of my

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mouth and the meditations of my heart will

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be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, our

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rock and our Redeemer, in the name of

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the Father and the Son and the Holy

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Spirit.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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May be seated.

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Let's look at Romans 12.

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Today, what we want to do is consider

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something called the complementarity of the gifts today.

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So this won't be like a blow by

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blow analysis of all the seven gifts there.

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We won't have time for that, but we're

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going to see how they work together a

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little bit.

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The church is to be a symphony.

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The church is to be a symphony of

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gifts harmonizing together in the unity of the

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spirit.

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Who is the conductor?

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The Holy Spirit is the conductor.

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We're being led by the spirit.

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Those who are led by the spirit are

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sons and daughters of God.

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And so the church is to be a

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symphony of gifts harmonizing together in the unity

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of the spirit, that unity of the spirit

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causes the harmonization, a unity of great complementarity,

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a complementarity in a great diversity.

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Only the Holy Spirit can pull this off.

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Last week, we considered first Peter four, 10,

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which says, as each one of you has

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received a gift, a charismata is the word

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there, has received a gift, employ it in

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serving one another as good stewards of the

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manifold grace of God.

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So we said in our community, no one

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should be unemployed.

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If you have a gift, we've hired you.

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Don't worry about being unemployed.

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The thing is, is that these gifts come

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from this fountain of the manifold grace of

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Jesus Christ that we don't have to serve.

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We get to serve.

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we're eliciting.

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Serve the Lord with gladness.

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Come before his presence.

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And we looked at the paradigms of Mary

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and Martha in the house where Martha was

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getting all upset in her serving.

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Yeah, exactly.

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where Mary's sitting at the feet of Jesus,

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just soaking in his presence and adoring him.

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Really a good model of contemplation and Martha

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trying to learn maybe how to serve.

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Martha has the gift of serving, but it

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doesn't look like it.

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to fully mature and manifest well, we have

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to exercise them.

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And sometimes they squeak when we first start

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using them.

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They need oil, they need oil.

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can begin to exercise those gifts so that

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they can mature and flourish and flower amongst

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us.

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And so we don't do things.

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As each one of us has received a

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gift, it's grace.

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Employ it in serving one another as good

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stewards of the manifold grace of God.

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having gifts there again, that word is charismata.

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Having gifts, charisma, charismata that differ according to

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the grace, the chorus, it's the same root

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out of charismata gifts and chirus grace.

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grace, which are called the gifts of the

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Holy Spirit, but they're gifts of grace.

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It's the same word having gifts that differ.

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There's the diversity according to the grace given

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Let us use them.

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OK, let us use them.

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So we just want our church to be

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a context where you actually can use them

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and you get to use them.

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You don't have to use them.

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You get to use them.

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Do you want to use them?

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every Christian is grace gifted.

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biblical point of view is a charismatic.

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almost went into Jeff Foxworthy last week.

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could have fun with that, but we're not

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going to go there.

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I love that.

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I could really, really grieve the Holy Spirit

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by doing that.

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Oh, man, I'm not going to do that.

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Holy Spirit.

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the spirit of God dwelling in you.

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In fact, you are from Paul's perspective and

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all of his communities, there are charismatic communities

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employing their gifts.

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some of the things that you may be

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turned off by today in the various movements

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called charismatic movements or charismatic churches.

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source of what we're talking about here.

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re-explore what it means to be charismatic

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in St. Aidan's.

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Yesterday, we completed our fourth membership class.

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It was awesome.

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We just had a great time.

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did is we took a ministry assessment.

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It's about 18 pages.

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we got started on it.

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And basically, you know, ministry assessments, tests, personality

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tests, all these kind of things are just

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relative guides to get conversation going and maybe

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turn the light on here and there.

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So we don't we don't put a lot

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of stock in ministry assessments or personality tests.

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We know we know the relative standards.

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Now, Chris, the sticker would just poo poo

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them all the way down because he's a

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psych major.

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So, yeah, it's an inside joke.

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OK, sorry, Chris, we won't have you take

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Some people don't like taking tests like that,

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you know.

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we're in the midst of finishing it.

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out for the person taking the exam, what

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exactly are my gifts, what are my skills,

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you know, where you just kind of list

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your training and your experiences and your own

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personal vision.

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up by a one on one with me

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where we can actually talk about where you

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would desire to serve and where's the best

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place for you to serve.

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do this as people come through membership class

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or it's followed up at the end by

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a one on one, many one on ones

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if needed with me to help activate you

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and your spiritual gifts.

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gifts and a homily.

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That's really incomplete.

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stirring the pot a little bit.

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That's all it is.

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Fanning in the flame, perhaps what is in

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clustering the gifts mentioned here this morning.

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And there's seven of them.

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And as I said all along, I'm going

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to deal with prophecy more fully when we

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get to First Corinthians.

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The speaking gifts in the cluster would be

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prophecy, exhortation and teaching.

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of caring, the caring gifts, the gifts of

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welfare, James Dunn calls them, who is a

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New Testament scholar.

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I'm using a lot in his commentary on

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Romans.

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The caring gifts, the gifts of welfare would

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come under serving and he calls giving, sharing,

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serving, sharing and caring.

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He calls and we'll talk about this a

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little bit later, but that word translated leadership

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by most people, he translates that caring and

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he's got reasons for that.

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this paradigm.

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And so serving, sharing, caring, and then the

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last gift showing mercy, showing mercy.

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When you start thinking about all of that

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surrounding you and the people in your spiritual

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family and all of that coming forth, it's

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very comforting.

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thinking about it.

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It's just like, wow, that's good.

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I want to be.

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of those seven gifts.

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manifests later on in some of the teachings.

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Prophets, exhorters and teachers, you could break that

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down where prophets tend to guide, exhorters goad

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and teachers ground.

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apostolic teams, among other gifts.

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the book of Acts, it says that Barnabas

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was a prophet and that Paul was an

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apostle, but he was also a teacher par

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excellence.

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I mean, he gave us the New Testament

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pretty much.

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And if you'll read carefully throughout all of

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his letters, he's mentioning, oh, I'm bragging on

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my team.

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he mentions them at the end.

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Read the end of Colossians.

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And he's just listing a ton of people

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that traveled with him.

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So Paul was no solo Christian.

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Paul was no independent dude.

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I'm an apostle.

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I'm going in planning churches by myself.

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It's just all throughout his writings where he's

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just bragging on his team.

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And they were all like, look at this.

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He's always praying for you.

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You know, just little you got to catch

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those little phrases.

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Those are important things.

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You know, I can name people here that

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are always praying for you.

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They got a list of names that are

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always praying for you.

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I handed out a full list of your

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names to those in the membership class yesterday.

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Pray for this church, pray individually, right, guys,

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if you were there.

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We believe that the church is built upon,

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you know, connecting with Jesus in prayer.

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And and it's and it's paying off.

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It really is.

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And so these these guys travel together.

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And so Barnabas, the word means son of

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encouragement.

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That's what his name means.

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Son of encouragement.

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And when you look at the effect of

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prophecy that Paul will lay out in First

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Corinthians, he'll say that prophecy.

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Actually, the effect of prophecy is encouragement, exhortation

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and consolation.

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Rarely has anything to do about predicting the

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future.

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It's an effect of transitioning a person from

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discouragement to encouragement, right?

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From inactivity and passivity to activity, he activates,

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he encourages, he puts courage in you.

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It's the grace that does it.

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And you can do all of this and

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say the same thing without the grace and

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the effect won't be there unless you're a

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prophetic person.

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That's the grace of a prophetic person.

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And we'll get into this later on, but

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that's what an encourager does.

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And teaching has a lot of those components

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in it from a New Testament perspective.

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OK, so prophets, exhorters, teachers help activate the

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grace within others.

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Let me give you some examples.

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First, Timothy four, 14, Paul is talking to

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Timothy, his young disciple, who has also been

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ordained as a bishop in Ephesus.

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And Paul is translocally looking at Timothy and

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his work, and he's saying, do not neglect.

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He's saying this to Timothy, a bishop, do

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not neglect your gift, which was given you

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through a prophetic message, through a prophetic message.

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Timothy received a gift through a prophetic word,

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right?

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This is New Testament.

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Through a prophetic message, when the body of

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elders laid their hands on you at his

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ordination, he received prophetic words.

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And he's saying, hey, don't neglect those words.

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Apparently, he was.

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And it's so it's so easy to do

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this.

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I mean, I've had prophetic words, you know,

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I got prophetic words through my bishop and

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I got prophetic words when I was 16

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and I met with a guy and some

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personal prayer and he just prophesied over me.

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And that's why I went to Bible college

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and ended up in seminaries because of a

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prophetic word opening me up to ministry.

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Second, Timothy one, six.

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Fan into flame, the gift of God, Timothy.

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Fan into flames, what is other translations?

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Stir up the gift with a poker almost

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in those coals, those embers that are almost

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going out.

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Fan into flame, the gift of God, which

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is in you through the laying on of

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my hands.

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For God did not give us a spirit

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of fear.

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OK, he's giving reasons why he needs to

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exhort, this is exhortation, this is encouragement, this

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is an apostle exhorting another leader, Stuart does

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this all the time, his priest in the

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diocese.

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Fan into flame, the gift of God.

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I mean, he's huge on that.

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Fan into flame, the gift of God, which

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is in you through the laying on of

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my hands, for God did not give us

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a spirit of fear, but a spirit of

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power, of love and self-discipline or sound

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mind is another translation.

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So that's just an example of of how

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gifts get imparted through prophetic messages sometimes.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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That's been my experience.

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For almost 40 years.

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This is not new, this is this is

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like, yeah, I totally get that, I've seen

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it again and again and again.

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Teaching, teaching is not just a download of

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information, is it?

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From a New Testament perspective, right?

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And a lot of times it can be,

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but it's intended to be.

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The grace of teaching is different than the

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guy in the academy who's got the Ph

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.D. That's a different gift.

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But teaching in the church and I can

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be applied in the church.

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But they need grace because just because you

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can do it in the academy doesn't mean

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you're going to have the same effect in

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the church.

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Ask me how I know I've been to

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seminary.

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I've had a lot of Ph.D.'s and

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wake me up when it's over, you know,

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so you know what I'm saying?

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Wake me up when it's all over.

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Yeah.

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So not just a download, but it's and

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it's not just to boast our IQ, you

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know, I know more than you do.

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Just a few things about the gift of

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teaching.

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Jesus says this.

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Learn from me, OK, I want you to

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learn something, that's the gift of teaching.

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For I am meek and humble.

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What?

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Learn from me because I want you to

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buy this book and we're going to discuss

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it.

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Well, that's good.

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That's that's a form of conveying knowledge and

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I'm not you know me, I love books.

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Come to my office, but no, that's not

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it.

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If that's where it ends, learn from me

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for I am Jesus is saying you're going

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to learn from who I am, not what

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I know.

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Right.

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Learn from me for I am meek and

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humble.

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Matthew 11, 29.

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Jesus surely taught the scriptures in the synagogue

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and almost got him thrown off a cliff

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when he came out in Luke for 18.

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He taught prophetically this day, the scriptures are

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fulfilled in your hearing.

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They loved him.

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Yeah, no, they wanted to kill him.

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They wanted to kill him.

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That's the prophetic ministry of Jesus.

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There it is.

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He taught the scriptures prophetically, it wasn't just

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boring, you know, Hebrew or Aramaic renditions.

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And then he allowed his life to provoke

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deeper learning.

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He allowed his life.

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So we're talking about communicating now, communicating gift,

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whatever that is.

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There's a lot of gifts, right?

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Communicating the gift and the character and in

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the charismatic group, a lot of times character

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is laid aside because we want the superstar

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charismatic gift guy who has the hot hands

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and can get people healed.

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But he's living in adultery.

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Character, character, character, and I can just go

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through my 40 years of being a Christian

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and just I'm not going to do it,

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but I can just name so many people

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that have just bitten the dust that were

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amazing in the spirit.

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Charisma.

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But their character was really, really questionable, and

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yet they continue to be promoted.

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That's just not good.

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I mean, you know, I think Bob Dylan

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today would be a more outspoken Christian had

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we not made him the big Christian hero

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when he came out with with an album

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called Saved.

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I mean, you can't get any more out

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than that.

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And they would throw tomatoes at him in

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San Francisco.

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Yeah.

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And so what we do with gifted people

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is really, really it's reprehensible sometimes because we

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all like to worship heroes.

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So remember that charisma, yeah, but where's the

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character?

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And we're not talking about legalistic judging of

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perfection here, but there are certain standards for

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eldership and all of that.

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Just read it in First and Second Timothy.

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There are standards that we have to live

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by.

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And if I don't live by those standards,

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my plug gets pulled right by my bishop.

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I won't be allowed to continue on.

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Like so many others who are unaccountable, unaccountable

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with no authority except their own spiritual authority,

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that's dangerous, brothers and sisters.

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I don't listen to people like that if

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they're not under authority.

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I don't listen to them.

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I don't care how charismatic they are.

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So as persons in communication, we not only

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impart what we know.

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We impart who we are, and that's very

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important.

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A person can talk about the peace of

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God.

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And make people nervous, there it is, words,

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but then on the inner life of the

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person, the effect they have talking about peace

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is agitation.

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The incongruity of word and character is coming

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forth there, and so what we're attempting to

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do and growing in maturity in Jesus is

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that our words reflect our being and our

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being reflects our words.

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And, hey, there's always going to be somewhat

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of a disconnect there with the holy word

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of God and what we're attempting to live

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up into.

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So, but if that intention is there and

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that desire is there and that accountability is

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there, it doesn't have to be perfect to

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impart something like giving.

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So Jesus says that who I am and

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what I say agree.

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And Paul just in 1st Timothy and 2nd

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Timothy just specifically nails all of this with

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Timothy.

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And so we've heard it said, well, that

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people don't care how much you know until

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they know how much you care.

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Yeah.

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There again, that's another illustration of, you know,

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where I'm preaching the truth, man, come on,

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you know, it's kind of like, yeah, but

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you really don't care about me.

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The goal of teaching is to communicate Jesus

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Christ, that you would have an encounter in

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an impartation of Jesus Christ now, present tense,

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the risen Lord feasting on him through these

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words.

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And if that doesn't happen, brothers and sisters,

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it's not a sacramental action.

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Needs to be the grace flowing through me

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and flow flowing through you to impart Jesus

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Christ to other.

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That's the only way to preach and teach

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and encourage and prophesy, because if it's not

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Christ, we're ministering.

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We're not ministering in the spirit and we

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can minister a lot of things.

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We can.

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There's spirits of divination that can read your

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mail.

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The slave girl in Act 16.

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This is a servant of the most high

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God, this is a servant of the most

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high God, she's prophesying and it's true.

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And Paul went for days and then it

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said he got agitated in his spirit and

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he spoke to Python.

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That's the name of the spirit, the spirit

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of divination.

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It's Python in the Greek come out Python

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in the name of Jesus.

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And she lost her ability to tell the

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future.

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And then Paul got locked up because they

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were making money off of her.

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This is real.

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Well, it happened in the Bible.

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No, it's happening now.

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It happens all the time.

548
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And we need to be a church that

549
00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:42,540
can set people free.

550
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:45,400
This is what the three streams are all

551
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,880
about, Catholic, charismatic and evangelical.

552
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,620
We can't choose one of them.

553
00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:55,360
We have to have all three, because that's

554
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,940
what biblical Christianity is.

555
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,080
It's not some upper Midwest diocese slogan.

556
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,260
It's biblical, right?

557
00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:02,920
It's biblical.

558
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280
Fortunately, what's missing in my life was not

559
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,240
the charismatic dimension.

560
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,860
It was the Catholic dimension.

561
00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:11,600
And it's about team ministry.

562
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:14,920
And that's why Paul traveled with Barnabas, Silas

563
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,660
and all these other people, because gifts are

564
00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:18,240
complimentary.

565
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:20,840
We can't do it alone.

566
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,000
But teaching like prophecy and the other gifts

567
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,900
is an encounter with Christ and get this.

568
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,140
OK, the translators of Ephesians 421, if you

569
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:31,660
have your Bible turned in, I'm going to

570
00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:34,600
quote the NRSV and then I'm going to

571
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,300
quote the NASV, too.

572
00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:38,500
So this is not the way you learned

573
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,500
Christ, Paul is saying to the Ephesians.

574
00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:43,180
For surely you have heard about him.

575
00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,780
About is not in the Greek text, but

576
00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:49,640
the translators in the new RSV couldn't get

577
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,680
their heads around that Jesus is still speaking

578
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,040
today.

579
00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:55,340
So for sure, you have heard about him

580
00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:56,760
and were taught in him.

581
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:57,620
Yeah, that's right.

582
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,300
You were taught in him.

583
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,120
Get that.

584
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,740
You were taught in him as truth is

585
00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:06,560
in Jesus.

586
00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,520
That's communion language, you guys.

587
00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:10,720
It's not an encounter with information.

588
00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:12,000
It's encounter with a person.

589
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,620
Translators didn't know what to do with that,

590
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:15,920
though.

591
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:16,940
And here it is.

592
00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:19,580
Here's the correct translation of the literal translation.

593
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:23,440
Because translations have interpretations in them to make

594
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,160
sense sometimes.

595
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,240
But you did not learn Christ in this

596
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,960
way, if indeed you heard him not heard

597
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,020
about him.

598
00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:33,060
That's not true to the Greek text.

599
00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:40,460
If indeed you have heard Jesus, does his

600
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:41,880
sheep know his voice?

601
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,620
He said my sheep know my voice.

602
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,260
But we do church a lot of times

603
00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:50,360
like God is not saying anything, you know,

604
00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:51,820
and we have to not figure all this

605
00:23:51,820 --> 00:23:53,260
stuff out alone.

606
00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:57,380
No, this church was birthed in listening prayer.

607
00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,980
And it continues to survive by listening prayer,

608
00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:04,560
and it's scary for some people to come

609
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,640
to a church like this.

610
00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:08,200
What I'm saying scares people sometimes.

611
00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:09,180
It's just Christianity.

612
00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:09,940
It's biblical.

613
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,220
But you did not learn Christ in this

614
00:24:13,220 --> 00:24:13,440
way.

615
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,060
If indeed you have heard him and have

616
00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:17,980
been taught in him, I want you to

617
00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:21,160
be taught in him, not about him.

618
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:25,870
Information about Jesus won't transform you.

619
00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:29,030
It must be it must be taught in

620
00:24:29,030 --> 00:24:29,410
him.

621
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:30,650
You get that.

622
00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:33,570
I mean, it's not a subtle difference, really.

623
00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:34,650
You understand communion.

624
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:38,620
I'll be with you always, even till the

625
00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:39,240
end of the age.

626
00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:41,340
That's the promise that Jesus gave us.

627
00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:43,860
We have to remember that the writer of

628
00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:46,620
Hebrews exhorts, see to it that you do

629
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:49,440
not refuse the voice that warns from heaven.

630
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,860
The ascended Christ still speaking through his spirit.

631
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:56,940
Hebrews 12, 25, that's where that's from.

632
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,040
See to it that you do not refuse

633
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,640
the voice that warns from heaven, exhorts Christ

634
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,640
is still exhorting.

635
00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:09,020
The exhortation will give is multifaceted, so it

636
00:25:09,020 --> 00:25:14,620
exhortation is translated, exhort or encourage or comfort.

637
00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:16,540
And wow, man, that is a wide palette

638
00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:17,380
of exhortation.

639
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,460
What comes to mind when you think about

640
00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:25,120
exhort anybody, let's think about exhortation, what does

641
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,100
that bring to mind?

642
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,480
You got correction, yeah, there's a sense of

643
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,760
urgency in that, right, speaking God's principle, yeah,

644
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:39,960
it's like this is the truth now that

645
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,300
can come as a teacher or that can

646
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:43,880
come as a prophetic exhorter.

647
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560
Teachers speak God's truth, exhorters speak God's truth,

648
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,580
but it has this sense of urgency like.

649
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480
I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of

650
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,040
God, Paul's doing it at the beginning of

651
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,980
this chapter, that urge there, that's it.

652
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,780
I urge you by the mercies of God,

653
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,880
present your bodies as living sacrifices.

654
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,740
He's exhorting the church, right?

655
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,600
He's exhorting us.

656
00:26:05,660 --> 00:26:06,520
That's an exhortation.

657
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:07,740
We need that.

658
00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:12,520
In this very laid back, casual culture called

659
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,200
Christianity, the whole new testament is an exhortation.

660
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:19,030
Encourage.

661
00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:21,810
What does the word encourage mean?

662
00:26:22,890 --> 00:26:25,730
To impart courage, right, encourage.

663
00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:29,770
Like enthusiasm, what does that mean?

664
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:35,250
In chaos, that's the word in chaos, in

665
00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:36,870
the Greek enthusiasm in God.

666
00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:39,250
And so all these words can really have

667
00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:41,770
a powerful impact once you start understanding the

668
00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:42,230
difference.

669
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:46,870
So, but that that word parakaleo is translated,

670
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:51,970
encourage, exhort, comfort depending on the situation.

671
00:26:53,410 --> 00:26:55,450
And the gift of encouragement knows when to

672
00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:57,330
weep with those who weep and rejoice with

673
00:26:57,330 --> 00:26:57,970
those who rejoice.

674
00:26:58,990 --> 00:27:00,970
Sometimes it's not appropriate to rejoice with somebody.

675
00:27:01,630 --> 00:27:03,010
You have to be sensitive to know when

676
00:27:03,010 --> 00:27:05,710
to weep and to know when to comfort.

677
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:08,210
That would be that third word comfort.

678
00:27:09,050 --> 00:27:10,450
I need to comfort this person now.

679
00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:12,270
They don't need urging along.

680
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:13,490
They don't need exhortation.

681
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:15,330
And a person that comes in with a

682
00:27:15,330 --> 00:27:18,270
primary gift of exhortation and they've not learned

683
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:22,670
how to hone those three shades, right, of

684
00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:26,690
exhortation, encouragement, comfort can really tear somebody up.

685
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:27,970
Ruth, you know this.

686
00:27:28,030 --> 00:27:28,530
You're a counselor.

687
00:27:29,030 --> 00:27:29,690
You get that.

688
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:32,670
You're a Christian counselor, so you really get

689
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:32,970
that.

690
00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:35,710
And you're a spirit filled Christian counselor.

691
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:36,590
You really get that.

692
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:38,830
So we could just go on and on,

693
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:39,770
Ruth, but we'll stop.

694
00:27:39,770 --> 00:27:42,230
And so that's what exhortation is all about.

695
00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:44,510
Giving, sharing.

696
00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:47,730
Dunn goes on to say that it's better

697
00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:48,750
understood sharing.

698
00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:51,630
And it's probably talking about in this context,

699
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:53,910
the sharing of food or wealth or possessions.

700
00:27:54,910 --> 00:27:58,090
And so the act of sharing is the

701
00:27:58,090 --> 00:27:58,410
gift.

702
00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:00,970
It's not what you share the way this

703
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:01,770
word is translated.

704
00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:05,190
It's the act of sharing that becomes the

705
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:06,930
gift, not what is received.

706
00:28:07,570 --> 00:28:11,230
And then caring, that word is often translated

707
00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:14,070
to leadership and a lot of great commentaries

708
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:15,110
translate it that way.

709
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:17,110
So this is it could go either way.

710
00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:20,530
But most people translate it leadership while others

711
00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:22,410
translate it like James Dunn, who is a

712
00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:25,850
massive, you know, he's got the magnum opus

713
00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:26,910
on on Romans.

714
00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:29,050
He goes through all of the options and

715
00:28:29,050 --> 00:28:30,070
he ends up with caring.

716
00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:33,590
But it has the sense of advocacy and

717
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:34,250
protecting.

718
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:36,610
And so you get a person who has

719
00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:39,630
great means, great ability, like, say, in a

720
00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:41,970
village and they become an advocate for those

721
00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:42,730
less fortunate.

722
00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:45,390
That's the idea behind this work.

723
00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:48,470
And so that's how leadership takes place.

724
00:28:48,550 --> 00:28:49,730
And that's Jesus, isn't it?

725
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:51,610
That's the leadership of Jesus.

726
00:28:52,350 --> 00:28:53,430
I want to be a servant.

727
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:55,690
And so I want to be an advocate

728
00:28:55,690 --> 00:28:56,710
for the poor.

729
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:58,230
I want to be a protector.

730
00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:00,930
And that's the way I want my leadership

731
00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:02,710
to to evolve.

732
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:04,290
And it is evolving.

733
00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:05,930
I am growing into this.

734
00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:07,030
It's not there.

735
00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:12,810
OK, so to take advocacy for the vulnerable,

736
00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:14,190
that's what Don is saying.

737
00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:17,410
And then the last one, showing mercy, showing

738
00:29:17,410 --> 00:29:19,450
acts of mercy with cheerfulness, it says.

739
00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:23,190
And this is the only occasion, Dunn points

740
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:26,270
out, in Paul's letters where mercy is used

741
00:29:26,270 --> 00:29:29,470
of human rather than divine mercy.

742
00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:30,490
Wow.

743
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,730
It's the only occasion in Paul's letters where

744
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:38,230
the act of showing mercy is not divine.

745
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:39,310
It's human.

746
00:29:39,870 --> 00:29:40,650
One place.

747
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:41,610
There it is.

748
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,450
And it's a beautiful gift.

749
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,450
The grace to overcome the reasons why a

750
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:49,730
person is in need and to show love

751
00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:50,110
and care.

752
00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:52,250
A lot of times, if you don't have

753
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:54,210
the grace of mercy, you'll think of all

754
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,570
the reasons why you shouldn't show mercy.

755
00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:57,250
Right.

756
00:29:57,810 --> 00:29:59,410
They're valid from a human point of view.

757
00:29:59,490 --> 00:29:59,670
Right.

758
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:01,810
But the people with the gift of mercy

759
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:06,030
can overlook the bumbling reasons why this person

760
00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:08,470
is in the place they're in and they

761
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:09,610
can give that mercy.

762
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:11,570
That's what Jesus does to us.

763
00:30:13,030 --> 00:30:16,410
None of us deserve mercy, but Jesus gives

764
00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:16,930
it to us.

765
00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:19,790
And so why do we need people who

766
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:20,950
have the gift of mercy?

767
00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:26,030
Because they show us what it's like to

768
00:30:26,030 --> 00:30:27,750
be merciful when we struggle with it.

769
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:30,490
That's why I need to be around people

770
00:30:30,490 --> 00:30:31,430
with the gift of mercy.

771
00:30:32,150 --> 00:30:34,370
And there's many in this congregation have the

772
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:37,490
gift of mercy and leadership and encouragement and

773
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:39,110
prophecy and all of this stuff.

774
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:41,730
And we need each other to complement each

775
00:30:41,730 --> 00:30:44,630
other because we're not going solo with each

776
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:44,810
other.

777
00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:45,030
Right.

778
00:30:45,170 --> 00:30:48,950
We're a symphony of beautiful harmony in the

779
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:50,870
unity of the Holy Spirit.

780
00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:54,350
And so Holy Spirit, come and continue to

781
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:56,050
stir up the gifts amongst us.

782
00:30:56,050 --> 00:30:56,730
We pray.

783
00:30:59,110 --> 00:31:02,710
And we ask for your divine enablement and

784
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:04,730
for you to come and just set us

785
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:07,350
on fire with the Holy Spirit.

786
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:10,430
Our God is a consuming fire and we

787
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:12,630
want to fan in the flame those embers

788
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:15,930
that perhaps may need more breath.

789
00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:18,890
And so send your breath upon us, send

790
00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:21,890
your breath upon us to glow in the

791
00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:23,290
fire of your love.

792
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:25,150
In the name of the Father and the

793
00:31:25,150 --> 00:31:26,030
Son and the Holy Spirit.
