1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,500 I left a little early out of Wheaton 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,140 yesterday to get back home in a decent 3 00:00:05,140 --> 00:00:08,620 hour, so I skipped one of the services 4 00:00:08,620 --> 00:00:10,580 yesterday in order to get home by 7 5 00:00:10,580 --> 00:00:11,600 o'clock last night. 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,620 So, had a really refreshing time, beginning with 7 00:00:15,620 --> 00:00:17,960 my daughter and granddaughter in Chicago for a 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,020 couple of days, and eating at all the 9 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,760 great taco joints there, right? 10 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:24,460 If you're ever there, Antique Taco, okay? 11 00:00:24,620 --> 00:00:26,560 You will not be disappointed. 12 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:29,780 And then I went over for Thursday night, 13 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:32,220 and all day Friday, and half day Saturday 14 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:34,140 to what's called Revive. 15 00:00:34,260 --> 00:00:36,560 It's an annual gathering of our diocese, and 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,020 priests, and deacons, and whatnot. 17 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:40,040 And a lot of people who are checking 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,600 out Anglicanism were there this time, and it 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,020 was just a really great time. 20 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,060 There was a contingency from Kenya, out of 21 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:50,280 the cathedral in Kenya, as well as Singapore. 22 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:52,820 Church of the Resurrection in Wheaton, our cathedral 23 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:55,320 where our bishop resides, they sent out some 24 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,580 missionaries who have an Anglican church in Cambodia, 25 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,960 and that's why the Singaporeans were there, because 26 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,080 they're overseeing Cambodia for the Anglican church. 27 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,200 So, it was just a beautiful time. 28 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,100 An African-American church was there, helping lead 29 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:13,440 worship that's coming alongside Greenhouse, which is one 30 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,220 of our deaneries. 31 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:17,500 And so, it's just a beautiful display of 32 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:19,840 the throne of God, you know, every tribe, 33 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:23,300 kindred, and tongue gathered around, just worshipping the 34 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:23,580 Lord. 35 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,960 And we celebrate the fact that Anglicanism, 70 36 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:30,320 % of Anglicanism, is in the global South. 37 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,200 And so, it's just not a bunch of 38 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,200 British people, right? 39 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:36,340 It's not. 40 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,180 And so, they're teaching us how to dance, 41 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:42,320 and worship, and rejoice, even with the name 42 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:43,000 Anglican. 43 00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:45,660 So, yeah, amen. 44 00:01:46,460 --> 00:01:49,560 Last week, I did a really brief introduction 45 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,280 on prophecy, the gift of prophecy and the 46 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,020 function of prophecy, just sort of opening that 47 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:58,880 up a bit as an introduction out of 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,960 1 Corinthians 14. 49 00:02:00,940 --> 00:02:03,020 I shared a little bit of experience in 50 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:05,320 my own life, what I've experienced in prophecy, 51 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:09,020 just a tad, and how I have come 52 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:11,740 to receive prophecy and perceive the word of 53 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:13,840 the Lord in my own life, which is 54 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,760 a real important thing. 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,500 I treasure it. 56 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,140 Jesus said, my sheep know my voice, and 57 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:19,500 they will not follow the voice of the 58 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:19,880 stranger. 59 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:22,820 God wants to continue to speak to his 60 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:23,420 people, right? 61 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,860 We firmly believe that. 62 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,640 And so, what I've done today is I've 63 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:30,620 asked three people to prepare just brief, like, 64 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,540 five-minute testimonies of how they receive the 65 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:35,580 word of the Lord, and prophetic words, and 66 00:02:35,580 --> 00:02:37,960 what they've experienced throughout their history in God. 67 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:40,280 I thought that might be practical and helpful 68 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,820 for all of us just to hear how 69 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:43,460 other people do that. 70 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,360 I want to set us up this morning 71 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,640 and just draw our attention back to the 72 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:51,040 bulletin where the scriptures are written and turn 73 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,220 to page four with me just to provide 74 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:55,000 some context out of the scripture. 75 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Of course, on the day of Pentecost, the 76 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,980 Feast of Harvest, right, the church received that 77 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:07,780 breath of God and the Holy Spirit was 78 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:10,140 poured out not only on just prophets and 79 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:12,160 kings and those who were anointed out of 80 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,780 the Old Testament with the spirit, but now 81 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:18,060 through the fulfillment of the prophet Joel, Peter 82 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:19,520 is explaining what has happened. 83 00:03:19,780 --> 00:03:21,720 And it says, in the last days, which 84 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,120 we're living in the last days, right? 85 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:25,280 But the last days began on the day 86 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,780 of Pentecost. 87 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,780 So the church has been living in the 88 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:30,580 last days since Pentecost, right? 89 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,160 In the last days, God says, I will 90 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,000 pour out my spirit on all everybody say 91 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,520 that with me, all all people and your 92 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,280 sons and your daughters will prophesy. 93 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:49,200 There's no discrimination now with age, right? 94 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:52,600 It's not just for grownups, it's your sons 95 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 and your daughters, right, will prophesy. 96 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:56,800 Your young men will see visions and your 97 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,200 old men will dream dreams. 98 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:01,120 And so you've got prophecy, vision, dreams. 99 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,980 Those are clusters of the prophetic spirit, right? 100 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,340 Those are different ways that God speaks to 101 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:10,600 us in visions and dreams and through receiving 102 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,780 prophetic information. 103 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,000 And we saw that throughout the book of 104 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,959 Acts and some of the readings today, just 105 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,399 where it said the Holy Spirit said that's 106 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:19,779 prophecy. 107 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,780 He's seeking a body to live in, to 108 00:04:22,780 --> 00:04:24,040 be embodied, right? 109 00:04:24,100 --> 00:04:25,840 We're full of the spirit with the temple 110 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:26,600 of the Holy Spirit. 111 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,620 And so we speak prophetically and the Holy 112 00:04:29,620 --> 00:04:30,360 Spirit says. 113 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,220 And so in verse 18, it says, even 114 00:04:33,220 --> 00:04:35,580 on my servants, you know, class distinctions are 115 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:38,240 being broken down, even on my servants, both 116 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,580 men and women, gender distinctions are being broken. 117 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,140 Both men and women are being they're going 118 00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:46,220 to pour out my spirit in those days 119 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:48,360 and they will prophesy, right? 120 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,260 They will prophesy. 121 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:51,380 And so he's putting this in the context 122 00:04:51,380 --> 00:04:52,440 of the new covenant. 123 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,580 One of the marks of the new covenant 124 00:04:54,580 --> 00:04:58,080 is that the fulfillment of Moses that we 125 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,140 heard today, would that all God's people were 126 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:00,620 prophets. 127 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Now, in a sense, we don't all carry 128 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,440 the office of a prophet, but we all 129 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,120 can prophesy. 130 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,080 We can all hear the Lord now. 131 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,360 All will know the Lord right in the 132 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:11,840 new covenant. 133 00:05:12,940 --> 00:05:15,380 And so that's what's happening throughout the book 134 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:15,820 of Acts. 135 00:05:15,860 --> 00:05:17,440 You just see these little vignettes. 136 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,720 Then, you know, world mission happened through a 137 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,260 prophetic word, the beginning of world mission. 138 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,540 Look at the third cluster there in Acts 139 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:26,620 13, one through three. 140 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,720 Now, in the church at Antioch, there were 141 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,600 prophets and teachers, OK, a diversity like in 142 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,020 Ephesians four, we looked at which our bishop 143 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:39,760 actually taught that was his last message on 144 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:45,460 the apostolic, prophetic, evangelistic, pastoral and teaching gifts 145 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:46,460 throughout the body. 146 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:50,800 And then they had everyone separate over in 147 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,780 different corners of the room where they felt 148 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:55,020 like they were more apostolic or prophetic or 149 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:55,780 evangelistic. 150 00:05:55,780 --> 00:05:58,240 And they got ministry and they got prayed 151 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:58,520 for. 152 00:05:59,260 --> 00:06:00,600 And that was on Friday night. 153 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,400 It was just beautiful. 154 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:03,880 And so this is the stream of our 155 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,820 whole diocese is that the whole the whole 156 00:06:06,820 --> 00:06:08,900 meetings in Wheaton were about the release of 157 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:09,840 the gifts of the spirit. 158 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:11,760 So this is a beautiful time. 159 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:13,780 And so, yeah, look at that. 160 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:16,800 They were worshiping the Lord and fasting, verse 161 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,420 two, and the Holy Spirit said, that's a 162 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:20,160 prophetic word. 163 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,320 The Holy Spirit said, set apart for me, 164 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:25,120 Barnabas and Saul, for the work which I've 165 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,720 called them to. 166 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:26,440 Wow. 167 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,440 When Paul went through Macedonia and he got 168 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,620 into Philippi, all of Europe opened up. 169 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,560 And that's why we're standing here today is 170 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,940 because of a prophetic word given at the 171 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:36,680 Church of Antioch. 172 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,840 So we need this. 173 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:41,580 And what we read last week, he said, 174 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,500 eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially that you may 175 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:46,920 prophesy. 176 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:49,340 So we're just exploring that. 177 00:06:49,860 --> 00:06:51,960 And I just want you to feel like, 178 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,460 wow, we're going to explore this in a 179 00:06:53,460 --> 00:06:54,480 safe context. 180 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,460 It's going to edify, it's going to console, 181 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,580 you know, it's going to encourage. 182 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Those are the three aspects of what prophecy 183 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,120 does. 184 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:04,560 Encouragement, edification and consolation. 185 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:07,680 And so that's what we're looking for when 186 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,260 we're listening to someone prophesy. 187 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,220 Is this encouraging? 188 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Is this building up? 189 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,660 Is it consoling? 190 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,900 Is it bringing consolation? 191 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,620 OK, it doesn't have to be predictive at 192 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:18,900 all. 193 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:22,240 We did see an example where Agabus actually 194 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,980 prophesied that a famine was coming. 195 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:26,880 And the church was able to prepare in 196 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,940 order to serve the needs of that famine. 197 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,440 So that is a good thing. 198 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,540 But it doesn't have to be predictive at 199 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:32,800 all. 200 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:36,640 It can be encouraging and strengthening all of 201 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,660 those three areas that Paul is talking about 202 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:39,520 in First Corinthians 14. 203 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,360 So without further ado, I'm going to ask 204 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Father Les to come first and then Bonnie 205 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,420 and then Pat. 206 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,300 And if you guys could just come over 207 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:48,780 here and utilize this, even though you have 208 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:52,680 a mic on, we'll get a better audio 209 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800 quality on the recording as well. 210 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,860 Thank you, Father Les. 211 00:07:57,020 --> 00:07:59,080 Well, I'm a lifelong Anglican. 212 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:02,580 I was actually born to a couple who 213 00:08:02,580 --> 00:08:06,680 had independently gone to be teachers at an 214 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,020 Anglican residential school for Native Indians in northern 215 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:11,640 Ontario. 216 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 It is a long way from everywhere. 217 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,340 And it was Anglican. 218 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:20,280 I was born there and I was first 219 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,500 in church when I was three weeks old. 220 00:08:22,660 --> 00:08:25,020 So I've been there a long time. 221 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,120 And even so, but but you grow as 222 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,039 you go along with the spirit. 223 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:34,799 And for me, how do I receive revelation? 224 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:37,679 Well, it's in a variety of different ways. 225 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:40,120 Often it's a thought and maybe it's a 226 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,659 thought I is kind of not the type 227 00:08:42,659 --> 00:08:45,680 of thought I would normally get, or it's 228 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,540 like a hunch or a sense or a 229 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:50,400 feeling in a in a particularly if it's 230 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,740 in a in a ministry setting, that would 231 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:53,280 be true. 232 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Sometimes it's like a picture in my brain, 233 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:57,780 my head. 234 00:08:57,900 --> 00:08:59,600 I just get this picture or or it 235 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,900 could be a scripture that I sense really 236 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:03,860 applies to someone. 237 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:07,320 Very rarely do I ever heard like a 238 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,100 word, a sentence, a voice from God in 239 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:14,580 my head, although I would say that my 240 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:17,460 call to priesthood was in that category. 241 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,540 I was in church on a Christmas morning 242 00:09:20,540 --> 00:09:22,780 by myself. 243 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,980 Well, literally at that point, nobody else arrived 244 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:25,320 yet. 245 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,800 It's, you know, like church Christmas morning would 246 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,740 expect and the early service. 247 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:33,420 And as I was waiting and praying, I 248 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:37,640 really had this visionary sense, real or unreal, 249 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:39,900 I don't really know, of the of the 250 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,660 altar actually becoming enlightened. 251 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:43,820 It sort of became light. 252 00:09:44,260 --> 00:09:45,620 There was a glow around it. 253 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,780 And I heard the phrase in my head, 254 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,260 serve me here. 255 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,980 And that was my my direction for ministry. 256 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:54,480 And ever since then, I've been trying to 257 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,820 work that I'm trying to figure out what 258 00:09:55,820 --> 00:09:56,560 is my ministry. 259 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:58,680 And I really do find that I'm more 260 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,940 alive when I'm serving at the altar than 261 00:10:00,940 --> 00:10:02,880 when I'm doing many other things. 262 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,920 On one occasion, Vaughn and I were involved 263 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,660 in ministry prayer at a conference after the 264 00:10:09,660 --> 00:10:10,960 speaker, you have ministry prayer. 265 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,560 And there's a woman that came up and 266 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:16,080 wanted prayer for her asthma condition. 267 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:19,820 And as we prayed for her, I there 268 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:23,380 was a strange sense of smoke that came 269 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:27,100 into my nostrils or exhaust or something like 270 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:28,000 it was very strange. 271 00:10:28,140 --> 00:10:29,060 I didn't really understand. 272 00:10:29,140 --> 00:10:30,520 I certainly didn't understand it. 273 00:10:31,420 --> 00:10:33,300 And I wasn't sure what it was, but 274 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:35,440 I I took the step of faith to 275 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,600 say to the woman, you know, I just 276 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,640 I I sensed this. 277 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:42,260 And and then this phrase sort of came 278 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:43,960 up out of me, shall we say. 279 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,920 And I felt compelled to say to her, 280 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,640 it really wasn't your fault. 281 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,960 And those two things don't in my brain 282 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,600 go together. 283 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:53,960 But to her, it made a lot of 284 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,440 sense. 285 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,540 And it really helped her because when she 286 00:10:58,540 --> 00:11:00,840 was a teenager, she came home from school 287 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,320 and after a while she went looking for 288 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,500 somebody else and found her father in the 289 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,380 garage, in the car full of exhaust. 290 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:14,580 And he had taken his life. 291 00:11:15,580 --> 00:11:16,720 I cry a lot, too. 292 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:19,300 Well, it made no sense to me, but 293 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:20,800 it made an incredible sense to her. 294 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,640 And with the words, it wasn't your fault, 295 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,800 it just broke off years of condemnation and 296 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,900 her asthma disappeared. 297 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:32,920 We're just amazing. 298 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:35,520 There was a time when we were we 299 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,780 lived in Akron, Ohio, and Bon had been 300 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:41,560 trained as a chaplain in Ontario, served in 301 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:42,800 the children's hospital there. 302 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,500 And there was a time when we were 303 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:46,220 just wrestling with, well, what should we do? 304 00:11:46,340 --> 00:11:49,360 And and Bon really yearned to really get 305 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,580 back into chaplaincy. 306 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:54,980 And for some reason, there was there was 307 00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:57,760 this we knew of this hospital south of 308 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Akron by half an hour. 309 00:11:59,140 --> 00:12:01,800 And there was something that stirred up within 310 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,740 me to say, we really need to take 311 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:07,000 you there with your resume. 312 00:12:07,580 --> 00:12:10,200 And of course, against all the opposition and 313 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,400 whatever, we did that. 314 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:18,600 And it just so happened that the chief 315 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 chaplain, head chaplain was the director of chaplaincy, 316 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 was looking for a chaplain to substitute for 317 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,060 a chaplain who was going away for six 318 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:27,440 weeks. 319 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,140 So Bon got the position, which then led 320 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:34,860 to part time position, which led to full 321 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:36,820 time position, which led to a period where 322 00:12:36,820 --> 00:12:39,500 she actually was director of the department during 323 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:40,780 the director's absence. 324 00:12:41,070 --> 00:12:44,880 It all came from something that stirred up 325 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,700 within me and an encouragement to do it. 326 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,560 And and sometimes that's what happens to me 327 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:52,920 with just at the right time. 328 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,140 But. 329 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,040 I usually hear from God by receiving scriptures, 330 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:03,360 hearing phrases and sentences, I really see pictures 331 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,160 a lot of the time and I get 332 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,400 a lot of I get dreams. 333 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,820 I experience a lot of feelings and sensations 334 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:11,700 in my body. 335 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Sometimes just all my heart will just start 336 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,180 pounding when I get a phrase or a 337 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:20,020 word or scripture. 338 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,960 And it's kind of a sense that I'm 339 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,880 on the right track. 340 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,520 I visited a church in Ohio one time 341 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,440 and they had a guest preacher. 342 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:32,520 And while the man was preaching, I sensed 343 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,900 the Lord told me something about his calling. 344 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:39,580 And afterwards I went to him and I 345 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:41,380 said the sentence to the man and he 346 00:13:41,380 --> 00:13:43,880 smiled and said that I was the third 347 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,860 person that year that had said that exact 348 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:46,940 sentence to him. 349 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,300 And similarly, in the church where we were 350 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:55,400 serving the Episcopal Church at the time when 351 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 we first immigrated, there was newcomers that came 352 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,180 and I was praying over them and I 353 00:14:02,180 --> 00:14:03,940 gave each of them words and they said 354 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:06,480 that the exact same word had just been 355 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,640 given to them by John Paul Jackson that 356 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:08,880 year. 357 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,520 So a lot of the time it's just 358 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,240 a confirmation. 359 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,780 When Les and I were leading a healing 360 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:18,180 mission in Guadalupe, which is an island in 361 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:22,280 the Caribbean, we began with prayer with a 362 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,260 pastor and his wife and we each had 363 00:14:24,260 --> 00:14:27,940 words as a result of the prayers. 364 00:14:27,940 --> 00:14:31,300 And the pastor confirmed that the Lord had 365 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:32,900 been showing them and the leaders of the 366 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:35,420 church the same callings and purposes for the 367 00:14:35,420 --> 00:14:36,540 church and for themselves. 368 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:39,660 And they were encouraged and it unified us 369 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:42,440 during the week-long mission that we led. 370 00:14:42,980 --> 00:14:44,880 I had a dream one time about Jesus 371 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,560 encouraging me to share a particular scripture with 372 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,440 everybody, with people. 373 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,340 I sensed I should share the contents of 374 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:57,680 the dream with a friend the next day 375 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,760 in an email and she responded that she 376 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,740 had just returned from a week-long guided 377 00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:05,260 retreat and the scripture that Jesus told me 378 00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:07,340 was the theme of the last two days 379 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:08,000 of the retreat. 380 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:12,140 And so she had felt very hopeless and 381 00:15:12,140 --> 00:15:13,020 was very encouraged. 382 00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:16,840 When I was a chaplain, I was in 383 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:22,200 training as a chaplain and I was visiting 384 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,940 in the intensive care unit and came upon 385 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:28,280 this room, a closed room, which was unusual 386 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,320 for intensive care. 387 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,620 It's usually stalls or whatever you call them, 388 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,180 and went in there and there was a 389 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:40,780 sense of many family members and a patient 390 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:42,240 who was asleep. 391 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,620 And I went over to her and put 392 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:47,480 a cross on her forehead and anointed her 393 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,000 with oil and prayed and sensed very strongly 394 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,900 to break a spirit of death off of 395 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:54,120 her. 396 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:56,120 Just how did that come? 397 00:15:56,220 --> 00:15:57,140 It was a sense of doom. 398 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,100 I just knew it. 399 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,140 And then I greeted the family and just 400 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:06,660 left the room, didn't talk to anybody. 401 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,140 The next day I went back and the 402 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:11,880 room was empty and I asked the nurse, 403 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,820 where is the patient? 404 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:16,900 And she said she's been transferred to the 405 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:17,860 oncology floor. 406 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 She was actually in here yesterday when you 407 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,880 came in. 408 00:16:21,020 --> 00:16:23,080 We had just removed all the life supports 409 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,120 and the family was around her waiting for 410 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,780 her to die. 411 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,060 And something happened and she didn't die. 412 00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:35,800 And I went down to oncology and met 413 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,940 this beautiful young woman. 414 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,180 She's 26 and she was sitting there eating 415 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:46,980 and just rejoicing in the Lord. 416 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:52,880 And we shared together that the angels will 417 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,960 come for her someday, but not the spirit 418 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,680 of death. 419 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:57,620 I was just completely, I was a new 420 00:16:57,620 --> 00:17:01,520 chaplain, you know, I was, God was my 421 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:01,900 trainer. 422 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:06,440 Another time when I was a director of 423 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,420 pastoral care in a children's hospital in Toronto, 424 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,579 a patient was transferred from the kids hospital. 425 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,680 She had not walked for nine months and 426 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,359 now she was in our hospital. 427 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:21,319 She was 16. 428 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:27,040 They couldn't find neurology, every modality, everybody had 429 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,680 looked at her. 430 00:17:27,820 --> 00:17:30,460 She'd spent hours with psychology, social work. 431 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,840 There was nothing that they could find wrong 432 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,620 with her and she wouldn't talk, but she 433 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:43,020 couldn't walk, she couldn't move, lower waist. 434 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 And I went in, I just have to 435 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,420 be short here. 436 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:51,860 But I did, I did sense some things 437 00:17:51,860 --> 00:17:56,520 about her and prayed one time with her 438 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 and she began to sort of vibrate. 439 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,900 And I thought, so I went in anyway, 440 00:18:01,940 --> 00:18:04,520 I went into the hospital on a Saturday 441 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,500 and she was in her wheelchair and I 442 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,480 prayed with her. 443 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,460 She told me that she would like to 444 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:13,840 walk. 445 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,620 I prayed with her, I said, well, let's 446 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:17,720 pray that you can walk. 447 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,680 And we, again, I sensed this as I 448 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,820 began, I didn't know what I was going 449 00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:26,000 to pray, just that she would walk. 450 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,180 And, but I sensed the same thing of 451 00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:32,080 the spirit of death over her and I 452 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,060 broke it and she got up out of 453 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:35,540 the chair. 454 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,640 I did, I did get the physical therapist 455 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,800 to agree to take the, the, the securing 456 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,040 strap off of her, which took a lot 457 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,080 of work, but she did take it off 458 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:46,420 of her. 459 00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:50,320 It was kind of against her profession and, 460 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,080 but she took it off and I broke 461 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,920 the spirit of death and immediately this young 462 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,200 16 year old bounced up out of the 463 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,940 chair and walked 10 feet across the floor 464 00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,620 until the physical therapist said, no, we've got 465 00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:05,740 to get her back in the chair. 466 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,140 There's not enough staff in the room. 467 00:19:08,650 --> 00:19:10,680 And so they got her back into the 468 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,080 chair and I went and charted Miracle and 469 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,540 went home. 470 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:20,560 And over the next several months, the story 471 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,720 of some of the emotional abuse came out 472 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,240 of what was going on, but the enemy 473 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,360 power was broken as a result of the 474 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:37,220 Lord and the love of the Lord speaking 475 00:19:37,220 --> 00:19:41,840 a word to me, his humble servant, to 476 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,280 set this woman free. 477 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,820 And as Father Michael has said, love is 478 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,500 at the base of prophetic words. 479 00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:51,900 Amen. 480 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Thank you so much. 481 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:59,060 I know there that was, we have multiple 482 00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:02,900 gifts functioning there that is prophetic, discerning of 483 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:04,220 spirits and healing. 484 00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:06,700 You know, it's just, they all go together. 485 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:06,960 Right. 486 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,220 So it's beautiful. 487 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:13,300 Amen, Patrick, I just want you to know 488 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:16,220 you can be a goofball and still prophesy. 489 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:16,600 Yeah. 490 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:20,440 Priest to Hallelujah. 491 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,000 And I also want, you know, I got 492 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,620 born again on an acid trip. 493 00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:31,380 True story explains a lot of things, doesn't 494 00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:31,820 it, Rod? 495 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,180 Oh, praise the Lord. 496 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:42,180 So sometimes it's I want to demystify the 497 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:42,600 prophetic. 498 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:45,660 Yeah, because Michael said a couple of weeks 499 00:20:45,660 --> 00:20:47,440 ago, I'm special. 500 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:48,780 Do you guys remember that? 501 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,360 And and if you've been around the prophetic 502 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,400 or charismatic church and prophetic, if there's a 503 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,720 lot of I'm special going on, you know 504 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,260 what I'm saying? 505 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,440 And the prophetic is for everybody. 506 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,780 It is for everybody. 507 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:03,720 The prophetic spirit can come on you at 508 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,620 any time. 509 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,840 If you have the Holy Spirit, the prophetic 510 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,420 spirit can come on anybody at any time. 511 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,820 And so to demystify it and make it 512 00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:14,960 safe so that you're not afraid, because there's 513 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,740 always risk with the prophetic. 514 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:19,580 There's always a little dying to self. 515 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080 If the prophetic spirit comes on you, there'll 516 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,200 always be a little dying to self before 517 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,340 you go give that word. 518 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,100 And so sometimes I get prophetic words quietly. 519 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,760 Most of the time I get it quietly. 520 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,920 It's just impressions upon my heart. 521 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,020 The scripture, a deep knowing about something, about 522 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:39,760 somebody that I just can't know in the 523 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,980 natural, or I've never met that person before. 524 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:44,300 I don't even know their name. 525 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:46,540 And so it's a deep knowing. 526 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,400 Sometimes it comes strong. 527 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,600 I notice sometimes prophetic words in church or 528 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,640 at a conference or something. 529 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,340 You'll get all that palpitations and, you know, 530 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,640 the, you know, whatever. 531 00:21:56,820 --> 00:21:58,980 And because I think part of that's just 532 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:00,580 the fear of man, because, you know, you 533 00:22:00,580 --> 00:22:01,720 have to speak out loud. 534 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,620 And but you also know that it's in 535 00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:05,140 the moment. 536 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,400 So God's pushing you. 537 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,600 This isn't the kind of thing you can 538 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600 go home and really process or run through 539 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,700 your pastors or whatever. 540 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,960 It's just like, oh, boy, here we go. 541 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:14,980 You know, and and then the church and 542 00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:15,960 everybody else judges. 543 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,000 And sometimes that's good. 544 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,560 And a lot of times not so much. 545 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:20,480 It always comes with risk. 546 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:22,760 And then it should come with 10 tons 547 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,420 of humility. 548 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:26,800 And this is where the tears come and 549 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,420 they're not your tears, but a lot of 550 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:32,680 times people will receive your word just because 551 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,020 of the spirit of the prophet. 552 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,960 You can be completely wrong, and if you're 553 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,180 really doing it in love and humility, people 554 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:42,140 pick that up. 555 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,000 You know what I mean? 556 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:45,600 And they'll forgive you if you're completely wrong. 557 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:47,100 They'll come to you later and say, you 558 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,800 know, wow, you were so wrong. 559 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,880 And if you're walking in the spirit, you'll 560 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,580 go, wow, you're so right. 561 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,700 You won't defend yourself. 562 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,080 You won't go, man, but, you know, dude, 563 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,500 this is what I heard, you know, it'll 564 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,440 be like you'll just well, if it's the 565 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,200 Holy Spirit, you'll you might just cry and 566 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,960 say you're sorry. 567 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:11,080 I prophesied over a woman once has gone 568 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,340 to L.A. and you shouldn't do this 569 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:13,760 anyway, but I knew her pretty good. 570 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:16,440 And it was about a guy. 571 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:17,700 So don't go there. 572 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:18,100 All right. 573 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:19,180 Just don't go there. 574 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,880 There's risk and then there's just stupid. 575 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,340 OK, and so she was going to L 576 00:23:25,340 --> 00:23:27,440 .A. and I gave her this word and 577 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,300 I knew her pretty good. 578 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,720 And she I saw about a week later. 579 00:23:29,860 --> 00:23:30,640 So how's your trip? 580 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:31,600 She goes, oh, everything is good. 581 00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:32,180 Business is good. 582 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,660 And then she said, but your word was 583 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:35,780 completely off. 584 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:37,920 I went down there and this guy actually 585 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,340 like was a complete jerk, broke her heart, 586 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,000 blah, blah, blah. 587 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:43,320 And at first I was like, because, you 588 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,540 know, I was young and I felt a 589 00:23:44,540 --> 00:23:46,700 strong urge and I want to say, well, 590 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,220 but I heard and the Holy Spirit came 591 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:50,500 on me and I just broke. 592 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,400 I just broke and I just got I'm 593 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,020 so sorry, I was so wrong. 594 00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:58,200 And you know what? 595 00:23:58,260 --> 00:24:00,480 To this day, at least Facebook friends, it's 596 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,300 been 20 years. 597 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:02,560 I hear from her all the time. 598 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:04,420 Get more likes from her than anybody on 599 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:04,800 the planet. 600 00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:09,440 OK, and so so it was that humility 601 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,860 that brought that to pass. 602 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,220 In 1994, Joey and the family and I 603 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,200 had real jobs one time. 604 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,720 Yeah, I had a real job. 605 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,340 I'm not kidding. 606 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,420 And it was it was before in the 607 00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:23,280 early 90s and all the rest of my 608 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,720 life until I got this word. 609 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,020 And the Lord told me, take my wife 610 00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:28,100 and my two small children. 611 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,860 We were doing worship for the church in 612 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:31,940 San Francisco at the time. 613 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,440 And he said, I want you to take 614 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,460 this now and just go give it away. 615 00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:37,560 And I said, well, what am I going 616 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,300 to do for a living? 617 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,680 And the Lord said, I'll take care of 618 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,220 you as you go. 619 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,240 And so it was a strong prophetic word. 620 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,500 If you're a father of two small children 621 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:47,920 and you've got a real job in San 622 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,500 Francisco and the Lord tells you to go 623 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:50,620 and I'll take care of you as you 624 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:52,860 go, it better be a strong word. 625 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:55,920 And so that word came strong and powerful. 626 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,280 And I let him confirm it in me 627 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,340 a dozen different ways. 628 00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:00,160 And then I ran it for Michael B. 629 00:25:00,260 --> 00:25:02,820 and Paul and and our pastors at the 630 00:25:02,820 --> 00:25:03,780 time in San Francisco. 631 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:05,540 And I gave him the five year, the 632 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:07,300 four year, the three year, the six month, 633 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:08,740 the six week, the six minute. 634 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:10,040 You know, I mean, I ran that thing 635 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520 through them for months and they all felt 636 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,980 it was God right from the beginning. 637 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,260 And then at the end, it all came 638 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:16,900 to pass. 639 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320 We started itinerate in the Bay Area. 640 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,280 I took my family for almost 10 years. 641 00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:23,440 We travel. 642 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,240 We've been on four different continents. 643 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,540 We've been through all through Asia. 644 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,500 We've been through Europe. 645 00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:28,100 We've been here. 646 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:28,660 We've been there. 647 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:29,700 We've been everywhere. 648 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,040 It all came to pass. 649 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,860 It was that same prophetic word that brought 650 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:35,760 us here almost eight years ago. 651 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,120 Michael and I were sitting in the we 652 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,600 came here and visit Michael and we were 653 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,300 having coffee in the crossroads and the Holy 654 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,680 Spirit fell on us in the car that 655 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,880 day. 656 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:47,440 I tell people if you stand across the 657 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,040 sea, you probably could have seen the car 658 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,580 shake. 659 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,180 I mean, if we'd open the doors, we 660 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,900 would both fall out drunk onto the concrete. 661 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:55,360 Right. 662 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:57,100 And the Lord said, I want you to 663 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,100 come to Kansas City and I want you 664 00:25:59,100 --> 00:25:59,980 to work in the arts. 665 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,800 I was just starting to do professional art 666 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,480 at that time. 667 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,500 And and so we went back and it 668 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:06,800 took two years to get here. 669 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:09,360 That's it's OK to process this stuff. 670 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:09,800 All right. 671 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 It took two years to get here after 672 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,500 that word. 673 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,820 And that was one of the strongest words 674 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:14,900 I've ever got in my life. 675 00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:16,320 We ended up here. 676 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,900 I sold almost all my art on that 677 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:21,840 block where the Holy Spirit landed on us 678 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,000 for the next four years. 679 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,580 My very best artist friends own the lot 680 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:27,540 of the parking lot. 681 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,660 If we had crossed the sidewalk, we'd have 682 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:30,740 been in his parking lot. 683 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,800 But I actually got my art space at 684 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,640 18th and Oak and we were a block 685 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,020 away. 686 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,980 Within two weeks of coming here, I had 687 00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:37,680 art space. 688 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,100 Personal words are awesome. 689 00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:41,880 Hey, let's encourage each other. 690 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:43,380 We should be encouraging each other daily. 691 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Right. 692 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840 And so bring it on. 693 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:49,100 If you guys got something for me, good, 694 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,660 bad or otherwise, let me know. 695 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,900 And likewise, give me permission to love on 696 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:53,180 you. 697 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:55,220 This is how we love people. 698 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,560 This is how I love people. 699 00:26:56,620 --> 00:26:58,540 I'd love to just go up to people 700 00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:00,000 and give them this stuff. 701 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:01,200 It's how I love people. 702 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,880 And but real quick, the story in Ireland, 703 00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:07,880 as we were traveling, a lot of times 704 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,560 we would just travel prophetically. 705 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,820 We would go out with like half a 706 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:13,600 mission and then let God fill in the 707 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,440 blanks because that's how the spirit in which 708 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,440 we started out anyway. 709 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:18,700 And we were always sent out by churches 710 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:20,780 and supported by churches and on and on 711 00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:21,360 that goes. 712 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,480 You know, we are always in a local 713 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,800 church and covered well. 714 00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:26,040 And the prophetic just doesn't work well if 715 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,680 it's not covered. 716 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,500 Well, it needs to be covered very well. 717 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,880 Highly advised if you're prophetic at all, get 718 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,760 a church and a pastor to cover you. 719 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:37,320 So we were in Ireland and I felt 720 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,080 like going to the West Coast. 721 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,420 Never been to Galway before. 722 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,120 Didn't know anybody there, but we really felt 723 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:45,580 led of the Holy Spirit to go there. 724 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,860 So we went there, got a hotel and 725 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:50,160 I just got out the phone book and 726 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720 I picked a church. 727 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:53,340 And the next morning we went there to 728 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:55,260 this church and I was sitting in the 729 00:27:55,260 --> 00:27:55,620 back. 730 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:58,500 And as the pastor was speaking, I felt 731 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:00,440 the Lord impressing upon my heart about a 732 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,300 pastor's conference. 733 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,960 And I started getting all this stuff about 734 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,940 a pastor's conference. 735 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:07,660 And once again, to demystify it, it's I 736 00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:09,080 knew it just wasn't my thoughts. 737 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:11,580 These weren't just like mind wanderings. 738 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,740 I just really felt impressed upon my heart. 739 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,220 And so after the service, I walked up 740 00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:21,460 and very humbly introduced myself to the pastor 741 00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:22,820 with my wife and my kids. 742 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:24,600 Nothing safer than that. 743 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:24,860 Right. 744 00:28:25,060 --> 00:28:28,260 And, you know, I I went up and 745 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:31,760 he I started to share what I asked 746 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,940 if it's OK if I could share what 747 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:34,200 I had for him. 748 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,000 And I shared that. 749 00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:39,440 And he said, wow, he just lit up. 750 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,500 I could tell immediately lit up and he 751 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,000 called his wife over because he wanted his 752 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,140 wife to hear the rest of it. 753 00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:46,400 I shared all about this pastor's conference. 754 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:46,760 He's gone. 755 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,580 Oh, my God. 756 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,140 We were just at a pastor's conference a 757 00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:50,780 few days ago. 758 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,420 This stuff all happened, the stuff I was 759 00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:55,760 telling him, and they invited us to their 760 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,160 house. 761 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,140 We went over to their house that day. 762 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,320 They said, you guys have to come over 763 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,420 and share a meal with us. 764 00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,340 And we went over, had a meal with 765 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:05,260 them, and it opened up the ministry to 766 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,040 to Galway. 767 00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:09,500 And when I was saying the three things, 768 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440 it consoled him, it comforted him because it 769 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,040 helped him with some of the things he 770 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,360 was wrestling with. 771 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:18,340 It exhorted him towards the pastor's group, which 772 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:20,400 had just newly been formed. 773 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:22,440 And then I really felt like it edified 774 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,900 because it released Joey and I and our 775 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:26,160 ministry into their church. 776 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,460 And so we got to release what was 777 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:29,760 in us and what we had brought to 778 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Ireland, which was worship and prayer and prophetic 779 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,400 word and all the rest of it. 780 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,540 It definitely had all those three items in 781 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:36,760 it. 782 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,900 I highly recommend for us, you know, this 783 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,660 is just personal, but try it on one 784 00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:43,020 another. 785 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,940 Yeah, just the people you love, man, when 786 00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:46,840 you get those impressions. 787 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,020 All right. 788 00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:49,220 Thanks, you guys. 789 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:49,920 Blessings. 790 00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:52,990 Is that fun? 791 00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:55,690 It's awesome. 792 00:29:57,210 --> 00:30:00,450 Before we close this part of the sharing, 793 00:30:00,570 --> 00:30:02,830 I just want to recommend a book and 794 00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:06,070 this is funny because as I got into 795 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:08,790 this topic of prophecy, I, you know, I 796 00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:10,890 have a big library in my office and 797 00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:13,990 and Liz actually lets me keep some books 798 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:14,370 at home. 799 00:30:14,650 --> 00:30:15,110 She does. 800 00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:16,830 And so I happen to look and I've 801 00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:18,470 got this section over there, over by the 802 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:21,070 fireplace where I have all of these old 803 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:23,890 books from charismatic days, you know, I mean, 804 00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:25,970 just prophecy, the gifts of the spirit. 805 00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:29,010 And and I went over to look to 806 00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:30,730 see what I had on prophecy because I 807 00:30:30,730 --> 00:30:32,450 usually pull the stuff out that I thought 808 00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:33,990 was like really, really good. 809 00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:35,970 I already had that in my office and 810 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:38,030 I overlooked this book. 811 00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:40,450 It's a book that I read when I 812 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:42,090 was 19 years old. 813 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:46,010 OK, and it's written by a Roman Catholic. 814 00:30:47,130 --> 00:30:48,950 He's got a philosophy degree. 815 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:51,070 Bruce Yoakum is his name. 816 00:30:51,370 --> 00:30:52,710 The book is called Prophecy. 817 00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:55,130 And I got on Amazon just to try 818 00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:57,110 to find see if there are other copies. 819 00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:58,930 You can buy this for like a penny 820 00:30:58,930 --> 00:31:00,390 on Amazon now. 821 00:31:01,670 --> 00:31:04,430 And so I started reading it again and 822 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,270 I realized this is a goldmine. 823 00:31:06,670 --> 00:31:08,570 This is not dated material at all. 824 00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:09,450 This is amazing. 825 00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:12,350 He his first chapter goes through the first 826 00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:15,990 three centuries of Christian history, quoting the patristic 827 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:19,590 fathers about words of prophecy and healing and 828 00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:20,870 the gifts of the spirit. 829 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:23,790 He's speaking to the church and he is 830 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:25,430 a prophetic guy in the midst of the 831 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:27,830 word of God community, which was a Catholic 832 00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:30,290 charismatic community that I was influenced by as 833 00:31:30,290 --> 00:31:30,850 a teenager. 834 00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:33,870 The cool thing about the charismatic renewal in 835 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:36,930 the 70s, you guys, is that I never 836 00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:40,370 was trained to to dislike Catholics. 837 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:42,050 You know what I'm saying? 838 00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:44,370 I mean, that's the way some people view 839 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:44,810 Catholics. 840 00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:48,490 Like, well, maybe, you know, there's just this 841 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:49,330 plethora. 842 00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:51,970 But man, the Holy Spirit hit the Catholic 843 00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:54,290 Church and the charismatic renewal in the Catholic 844 00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:57,070 Church is one of the largest movements still 845 00:31:57,070 --> 00:31:57,510 going. 846 00:31:58,330 --> 00:32:00,030 And Pope Francis is all about it. 847 00:32:00,250 --> 00:32:02,450 You know, Pope Francis moves in that and 848 00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:04,510 he moves in the charismatic renewal in the 849 00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:06,050 Catholic Church and he blesses it. 850 00:32:06,170 --> 00:32:07,970 So, I mean, this is happening not just 851 00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:09,050 in Pentecostal churches. 852 00:32:09,050 --> 00:32:10,210 This is happening everywhere. 853 00:32:10,910 --> 00:32:13,210 And so but I just recommend this book 854 00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:15,050 to you, Prophecy, and get it for a 855 00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:17,590 penny, four dollars for shipping, three ninety nine. 856 00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:21,490 So it just gives such practical advice on 857 00:32:21,490 --> 00:32:23,690 how to operate in prophecy and how to 858 00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:25,170 just think about prophecy. 859 00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:26,950 It's really biblical as well. 860 00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:28,830 So let's stand together.