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as Derek, it's because we're cut out of

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different bolts of cloth.

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He comes leaping like a roe, always delighting

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in the microphone, and I come like a

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snail.

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For me it's always an agony, always with

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deep sighs and groans, and wishing that the

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floor would open and swallow me and that

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there's some other place that I could be,

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especially tonight.

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Not because of the offering, but because of

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the thing that's on my heart, because I

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already have a reputation for being the bull

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in the spiritual china shop and taking things

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by the horns and being indelicate and lacking

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tact and causing furor and storms and all

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that kind of stuff.

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You're not helping me repent.

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It was true.

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I want to speak in the spirit of

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the three dominant prayers that have been breathed

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for this Convocation.

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If Larry will remind us all, one was

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for a freedom in the spirit, the second

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was for a spirit of restoration, and the

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third, dealing with self-complacency.

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Well, what is in my heart, my touch,

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all three bases.

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The kind of thing that usually falls to

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me to do is not to deliver fixed

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set pieces, but more and more it's an

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event that I'm involved in rather than a

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message.

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And what's on my heart has been born

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not out of study of a word or

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a theme, so much as the event of

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recent days pertaining to the very serious decision

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by a body of responsible men to cast

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another brother out of fellowship to excommunicate him.

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The actual verse that was employed in the

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letter that was sent was to give him

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over to the devil for the destruction of

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his flesh that his spirit might be saved.

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That was the first time that I have

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ever been involved in any dealing of that

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kind, anything as profound and as total and

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as serious and as earnest as that.

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I was not there in the eight hours

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of discussion that preceded that decision, but had

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I been there, I would have assented completely

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with that decision and felt that it was

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necessary.

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And then, as you've already been informed, the

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brother who was involved presented himself here with

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the statement that he was going to attend

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these convocations, that we had asked him privately

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to refrain from coming.

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And then we faced him yesterday, and he

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came nevertheless.

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But this morning, in a meeting of the

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elders and responsible brothers, he expressed a note

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of repentance, asked apology, and spoke of a

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dream that he had had.

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And I think that the general consensus was

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to take this at its face value and

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believe that it's sincere and authentic and a

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step in the right direction for the restoration

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of a brother.

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And I also hope and pray that indeed

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it is authentic.

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But it's the word authentic that is in

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my heart tonight, and all through the day.

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Maybe I've not yet sufficiently recovered from our

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experience of only a week or so ago

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in Winnipeg, where, by the Lord's providence, I

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was a speaker at Jesus 79.

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I had one earlier such experience, I think

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in 1973 or 1974, the first of these

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Jesus rallies, and that was enough.

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I vowed then, never again, I would never

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again be part of this carnival outdoor atmosphere

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of women in their halters and shorts and

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cracking of gum and the stuffing of your

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face with potato chips while you're hearing what

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ostensibly purports to be serious words of God

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from the platform, and the whole atmosphere just

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chilled my soul.

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But when this invitation came for Winnipeg, despite

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my determination, I felt that it was God,

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and I went.

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I wasn't supposed to be a speaker at

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the general sessions, but as is the format

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that is now increasingly becoming popular in these

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big charismatic shindigs, there's a large general assembly

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at night, but then the morning sessions are

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given over to the denominational and non-denominational

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charismatic groups, and I was invited to be

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the speaker at the Baptist charismatic group, so

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how could I refuse?

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So novel an invitation as that.

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And indeed, those speakings were blessed.

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Well, it fell to me to sit on

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the platform on the night of the big

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general meeting where an internationally known speaker was

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the message bearer for that night, and unlike

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all the others that entered into the general

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merriment, I sat there like a glum lump.

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I was completely out of it, hurting, actually,

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stunned and mortified at some of the statements

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that I was hearing made, and the whole

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happy atmosphere in which these statements were being

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received was a general sense of hokiness.

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I don't know of another word like it.

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I don't know how the English language has

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gone on this long without an adjective like

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that, a sense of artificiality, of things synthetic

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and feigned, of having the appearance of things

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real but being somehow false, although it employed

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real words, really meaningful terms, phrases out of

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scripture, references to the unity of the body.

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I don't know what your reaction would have

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been had you been in my place and

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you had heard the speaker saying that he

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had taken to task a Pentecostal minister at

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a previous Jesus rally who spoke on the

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issue of sin and repentance, and he castigated

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this man because he felt that such kinds

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of speaking would interfere with the spirit of

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unity.

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Another statement was that let's forgive the Catholics

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for unity's sake and that there's no point

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in pressing past issues in that kind of

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spirit and sense.

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And there were prophecies that came that night

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from a certain assemblage of men who were

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called the word unit, Catholic charismatic men who

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ostensibly have a gift in prophecy and who

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write them out on yellow legal pads and

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give them over to an overseer who then

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calls them to the microphone at the appropriate

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moment to speak to them.

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I'm just describing my impression, a terrible sense

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of unreality, all the more because it was

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couched in things that are very real.

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You understand what I'm saying?

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Well, by the end of the night, my

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spirit was such that I couldn't wait to

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leave the platform, but unfortunately I was assigned

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to bring the benediction at the conclusion of

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the night, and I somehow felt that I

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should not be involved in anything that took

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place that night.

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I should not lend myself to anything that

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took place and be part of it.

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And so I went over and tugged the

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sleeve of the man who was presiding at

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the platform and I asked to be excused

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from the obligation of bringing the prayer of

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benediction.

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I said, let someone else do it or

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end in some other way, but instead he

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called my name.

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And so I came to the microphone in

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that terrible agony and frustration that some of

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you might know, and all that I could

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do was to ask them to stand up

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and take off their sun bonnets and visors

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and come to a posture of respect before

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God and to sing with me the Lord's

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Prayer.

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And that's the way the night ended.

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The Lord sort of bailed me out without

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further embarrassing implication and involvement.

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But as I was leaving the platform, a

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lave man who was in charge of arranging

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for these sessions asked if I would be

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available for the general session the following morning.

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And at first I abruptly said, no, I

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want to say I'll have nothing to do

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with this at all.

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me something specific.

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that night, my spirit still bruised and still

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pondering that night and our response to it.

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had reacted in a like manner.

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The young lady at whose home we were

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staying said that she thought that the raucous

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noise of that night was something akin to

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the noise that Moses must have heard coming

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down the mount with the tablets of the

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law.

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And that statement stuck in my craw.

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It embedded itself in my spirit.

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of it.

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And we drove to this open park where

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this rally was being conducted, where I had

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to be the morning speaker at this Baptist

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section and discussing with my colleagues whether I

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ought not indeed take advantage of the invitation

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that was given me and speak a word

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distinct and different than other than the kinds

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of things they had been hearing.

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And we prayed together because I didn't want

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again to fall into that role of bringing

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that kind of word.

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And so without making any haste to get

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there, in fact hoping that we would be

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too late, we parked the car and walked

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to the platform where the public meeting was

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taking place at the very moment when it

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was time for the speaker to be announced.

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They had already assigned another speaker in my

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absence.

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But when the man saw me come up

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the steps of the platform, he immediately called

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to me and they rushed me right to

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the microphone.

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And so I began in the spirit of

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please pray for me.

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There must be something grievously wrong with me

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that prevents me from entering in to the

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spirit of general merriment that prevailed last night.

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That I could not sit there through the

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night and listen to the statements and rejoice

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for them.

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And that as a matter of fact I

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shared the impression of this one that I

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described to you and read from the scriptures

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in Exodus of Moses coming down the mount

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with the tablets of the Lord to hear

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the noise which was not the noise of

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battle nor the noise of victory but the

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noise of singing.

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that it was this kind of noise that

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characterized last night.

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And it has much to do with that

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earlier event in men and women impatient to

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wait for God to come down the mount

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with the real thing.

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And therefore simulating something like it but not

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it.

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A golden calf of a substitute kind and

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dancing and prancing about it.

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Imagine how these words were going forth.

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to the platform that morning I heard one

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of the so-called prophecies in which the

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speaker was saying I the Lord have been

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with you through this weekend I've given you

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my spirit and I'm going to do this

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and I'm going to do that and for

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me it was as leaden as anything could

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be without life.

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And I said my condition is even so

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bad I don't even witness to these prophecies.

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And I wonder indeed that if my condition

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is not some kind of idiosyncratic thing I'm

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some kind of dyspeptic character who always seems

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to find the negative thing but if it

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somehow is an expression of the heartbeat of

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God we might well ask whether functions and

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events like this are some kind of massive

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deception in which we have been inducted unwarily

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and because the phrases have been so rich

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and so suggestive and because our hearts have

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panted after true unity in the body of

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Christ and because we've been impressed with the

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three or four thousand who gather out of

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Catholic and Protestant ranks that we have been

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willing quickly to call this that unity when

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in fact it is not.

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And if we can begin to explore that

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maybe we need to ask also about the

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validity of the whole charismatic phenomenon and whether

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we actually have an authentic baptism in the

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Holy Spirit and indeed whether we have ever

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actually been born again of the Spirit or

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from beginning to end we have been inducted

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in one of the most colossal jobs that

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has ever been perpetrated in the religious world

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in all history.

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Those were the kinds of questions that I

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raised and then I invited as many as

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would to come to the session where I

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would be speaking immediately at the conclusion of

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that morning session where I was to speak

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on the Spirit of Truth.

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There was a cry that was expressed by

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one of the elders in the gathering of

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the elders that preceded this convocation here.

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We sat there awkwardly as such men will

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in the first meetings when you come together

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nobody wanting to break the silence nobody wanting

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to violate against the Spirit of God and

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introduce some carnal element but this brother, bless

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him, had the courage to express the cry

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of his heart which I believe is also

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the cry of God's heart.

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It was a cry for authenticity.

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It was the cry of one who was

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increasingly conscious of something plastic a film coming

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over the religious world.

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It was a man who had not broken

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through that film and whose heart was desiring

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that which is real with God and with

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men.

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It's also my own heart's cry and this

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afternoon as I spent the entire afternoon pondering

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before the Lord the events of this morning

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a man making the statement of confession the

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desire on the parts of those men who

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were in the room so anxious for reconciliation

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to receive such a word as being authentically

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that of repentance no one knowing for sure

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whether indeed it was or not and not

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wanting to be the victims of well-meaning

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intention knowing that we have responsibility and can

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I just say a word about that that

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the responsibility goes far beyond the issue of

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the individual involved.

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Can I say that it touches the whole

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issue of the validity of the church of

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Jesus Christ in the earth.

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It touches the whole issue of the government

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of God whether it's a mock or a

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truth.

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It touches the whole issue of whether indeed

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there's going to be in the earth an

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actual kingdom of heaven that can be recognized

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and discerned not only by those who make

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it up but by the world who presses

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their nose to the window to look in

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and to behold the enormous phenomenon of people

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living in the truth and in love.

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It touches all these issues when serious and

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responsible men will come to a determination to

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cast and give a man over to the

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devil for the destruction of his flesh.

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I would say that this is an ultimate

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judgment not to be done in pique or

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irritation or because it dismisses a...

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an irritating problem and well they were right

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in taking eight hours to come to such

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a conclusion.

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In fact, if you would know the tens

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and the hundreds of hours that preceded discussion

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and involvement with that same individual you would

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know that the whole thing was very soberly

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considered from beginning to the end.

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A whole fellowship had been devastated its members

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dispersed to the winds it was a brave

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work that seemed to us to be going

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down the drain there was injury and damage

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and bruising the issues were not light.

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There was the issue for the individual himself

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his own restoration there was the issue of

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the preservation of that expression of the body

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of Christ and beyond that there were the

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larger and the eternal issues of the validity

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of God's word of the seriousness of God's

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men covenanting together to come to such a

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statement of agreement and the necessity to see

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it through to its ultimate conclusion.

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And so I pondered these things as I

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left this morning service all the more because

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of the references to suffering to the cross

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to atonement of the things that have been

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paid for in excruciation in blood and agony

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lest we find ourselves trampling on the blood

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of the Son of God ourselves guilty of

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some kind of plastic cheapy counterfeit kind of

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charismatica when the cry of God is for

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authenticity in the earth.

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Would you believe it that I took down

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a dictionary and looked up the word plastic

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in that the word has been spoken so

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often in these days?

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Here are some of the meanings given in

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the dictionary soft enough to be molded yet

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capable of hardening into the desired fixed form

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easily bent twisted or manipulated easily let an

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influence lack of will and real character easily

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modified to suit needs conditions or uses subject

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to precious I'll tell you that a plastic

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world is devoutly to be avoided but a

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plastic kingdom is a tragedy of such proportions

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that I could break down and weep for

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the kingdom of God to be plastic subject

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to precious and influences to accommodate and suit

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the needs and moments of men is something

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that cannot be considered I looked up the

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word pseudo because I have a sense that

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we need to be alerted for the kinds

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of end-time deception the spirit of antichrist

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which is already so rife you know where

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it says in 2 Thessalonians that these things

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shall not be till there be a great

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falling away the Amplified gives an amplification which

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reads this way let no one deceive or

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beguile you in any way for that day

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will not come except the apostasy comes first

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that is unless the predicted great falling away

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of those who have professed to be Christians

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has come and the man of lawlessness is

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revealed who is the son of doom of

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perdition that's a little amplification that the King

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James and other renderings do not give the

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falling away of those who have professed to

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be Christians I think there's a lot of

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profession without actuality and in fact I have

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invited and encouraged Derek to come up after

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me tonight if there shall be sufficient time

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and I don't know how long my remarks

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will take to speak on a subject that

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God has given him about the true being

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born again of the spirit of God so

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we're very much concerned with the things that

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are plastic the things that are pseudo false

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artificial synthetic imitative counterfeit the things that are

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spurious the things that are false I even

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looked up the word sham which says feigned

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pretended a trick that deludes a hoax imitation

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or counterfeit purporting to be genuine to act

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intentionally so as to give a false impression

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was this statement this morning of a brother

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a true expression of repentance or was it

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a sham was it feigned or pretended was

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it a trick that deludes was it a

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hoax an imitation or a counterfeit I'll tell

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you that the answer to that question goes

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far beyond this morning far beyond the individual

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far beyond the men who are making such

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reckonings it affects the whole corpus of God

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it affects the whole body of Christ everywhere

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in the earth and I am absolutely convinced

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determined you cannot shake me from this that

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what we will do with regard to this

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issue shall affect the body of Christ throughout

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this entire nation and in the earth and

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it doesn't matter whether anyone else in any

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other expression of the body knows of this

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particular incident or not they will be the

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recipients of our ability by the spirit of

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God to discern the things that are authentic

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or the things that are sham they will

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be either the victims or the beneficiaries of

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an issue of truth that was seen to

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its ultimate conclusion or that was allowed to

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slip by because of a disposition in men

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to reconcile the nitty gritty thing after all

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it's an irritation and a nuisance and how

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long will this go on listen the guy

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sounds like he's repentant why not take it

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at his face value give him an opportunity

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to demonstrate it and let bygones be bygones

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I even looked up the word real not

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artificial nor fraudulent illusory or apparent genuine occurring

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in fact necessarily existent true if you don't

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have to wipe the saliva off your chin

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after hearing those words something is amiss with

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you don't these things excite something in your

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salivary glands my God are we so destitute

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and so numb that we don't occur in

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fact the very heart the knit the fiber

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the texture of the kingdom which is reality

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don't we understand that the world is freaking

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out and dying for the want of it

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don't we understand that there are men who

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are going berserk and absolutely beside themselves because

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of the meaninglessness of the universe that they

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occupy looking for some novelty some cheapy some

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diversion to take them through the length of

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their hours because they have not glimpsed anywhere

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that there is an alternative that is available

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to them called the kingdom of God the

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kingdom of reality it simply has not yet

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surfaced nor been demonstrated by God's people dear

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children if we need to be anything foremost

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it is to be eminently real eminently loving

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eminently living in the truth speaking the truth

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walking in the truth doing the truth being

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true it's much more than just being correct

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or scriptural or doctrinally sound it's something that

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is suffused right in the marrow and the

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knit and the maw of your makeup it's

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in your eyes in your speech in the

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inflection of your voice in your posture in

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your walk in your talk not artificial or

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fraudulent or illusory or apparent but genuine occurring

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in fact a true saint true conversion true

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baptism in the Holy Spirit true utterance in

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tongues true interpretation true prophecy a true word

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of God I was sitting in Aud Bibi's

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living room the other night and I just

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my hand fell to the ground and I

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the carpet and I picked up some publication

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that he'd received in the mail and I

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looked at the article because it said something

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about that dearth of the word of God

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that would come in the end times men

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would be running to and fro to find

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and to hear a true word and he

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went on to speak about the oil crisis

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always the interesting parallel between what is happening

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in the natural world and what is happening

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in the spiritual world the extreme crisis for

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oil but nowhere near as extreme as the

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crisis that is in the kingdom for the

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holy anointing oil of God I don't know

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about you but I'm starving for a real

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word I want to hear an anointed word

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out of the heart of God I want

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a word that's incisive and penetrating that illuminates

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and lays bare real words real gifts real

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saints because there is real conversion born out

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of real repentance and real godly sorrow nothing

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feigned nothing illusory nothing deceptive nothing imagined nothing

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counterfeit nothing substitute real I hope I'm not

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presuming against God if I say tonight all

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unreality is sin that the very God who

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is true and his anointing which is true

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anything that is inimical and opposed to that

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God that is hokey and feigned and makeshift

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that is a collaboration or a dealing or

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devious or wrought by men or imitated or

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simulated is sin and it has its corrosive

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and its deadly effect not only in eternity

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but in the here and the now all

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nature and creation is groaning for true sons

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for true fellowship and I would say that

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part half of the the friction between Charles

537
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,780
and myself and our fellowships over the years

538
00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:15,440
that have sometimes surfaced in the course of

539
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,560
these summer convocations has been this cry for

540
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,120
authenticity this sense hey, aren't you guys a

541
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:26,780
little too playful aren't you perhaps dangerously at

542
00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:29,340
the doorstep of some new kind of gamesmanship

543
00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:34,860
however attractive and however much it employs apostolic

544
00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:40,160
vocabulary watch it far better we don't know

545
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,340
the words but have the corresponding fact than

546
00:25:43,340 --> 00:25:45,280
we should deal in the words and have

547
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,680
only a pseudo effect of what it is

548
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,780
that we're so desperately seeking apostolic reality truth,

549
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,000
glory all unreality is sin it's the sidestepping

550
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,120
of the cross the avoidance of pain and

551
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,900
suffering it is through much affliction that we

552
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,020
enter the kingdom of God you know what

553
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:10,080
the temptation is to say okay brother, sure

554
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800
you had a dream and you're saying repentant

555
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,550
words this morning why not let's forget this

556
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:21,650
terrible issue this division this strain this conflict

557
00:26:21,650 --> 00:26:23,850
at our doorstep that continues to surface we

558
00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:24,930
don't seem to be able to reconcile it

559
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:28,850
it'll be a relief to receive your words

560
00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:35,460
as being sincere and I somehow sense that

561
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,680
and I'm not saying that the words are

562
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,480
not sincere but I'm only saying that God

563
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,260
has triggered something in my heart that goes

564
00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:45,600
beyond the episode of these days to raise

565
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,980
the larger questions of authenticity before the body

566
00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:51,840
of Christ are we willing for authenticity's sake

567
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
and for truth's sake not to take shortcuts

568
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,580
not to grasp at the first straw that

569
00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:02,040
floats that seems to present the possibility of

570
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960
resolution and an end of conflict are we

571
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,460
willing to see an issue pressed to its

572
00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:10,520
uttermost because if we not if we are

573
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,100
not we may see men bend but we

574
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:21,200
are not going to see them break and

575
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,780
you may be content with bending but I'm

576
00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:28,680
not I want to hear snap crackle pop

577
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,120
I want to see something crunch right at

578
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,320
the foundation of that citadel of rebellion and

579
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,520
self-will and independency of spirit and insubordination

580
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,380
and raucousness and resentment and hatred and bitterness

581
00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:48,870
I want a breaking not a bending a

582
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:51,250
little dent which will soon enough pop out

583
00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:56,170
again at the slightest provocation and I'm convinced

584
00:27:56,170 --> 00:27:59,310
that's the issue of the cross and Charles

585
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:01,530
brought up this morning with the references to

586
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suffering are we willing to enter into those

587
00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:07,110
sufferings and share in those sufferings that we

588
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:13,030
might also experience his glory humanly we desire

589
00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:16,630
shortcuts unwilling to suffer the tension of seeing

590
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:20,110
an issue through to its true resolution in

591
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:23,330
God see I'm struggling some issues of my

592
00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:27,110
own isn't it interesting ironic that I should

593
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:29,810
be preoccupied with such subjects as bridal love

594
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:39,510
when I'm not a Derek Gitchin somber what

595
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:41,010
can I say God has given me the

596
00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:42,570
theme but he has not yet given me

597
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:45,650
the corresponding reality and one of my own

598
00:28:45,650 --> 00:28:49,030
tensions is not to jump the gun and

599
00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:50,990
to simulate something of my own that has

600
00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:55,770
the appearance of love and is not I

601
00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:59,030
want that which cometh down from above however

602
00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:01,810
long I've got to bear the terrible agony

603
00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:06,610
and the reputation of lovelessness I don't want

604
00:29:06,610 --> 00:29:09,790
a saccharine counterfeit a slap on the back

605
00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:11,090
and a bear hug and a twiddle of

606
00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:13,610
the cheek and some adept phrase that makes

607
00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:15,150
me seem like one of the boys who's

608
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:19,840
really interested in you when I'm not I

609
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440
want the burden from God for you as

610
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,860
I want the burden of God for you

611
00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:28,220
for Israel and again not some sentimental thing

612
00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:30,860
that will as easily burst the moment that

613
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:34,600
you're denied your petrol at the pump cry

614
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,940
for authenticity in God's people for if we

615
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:42,220
have it not how shall the world know

616
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:44,680
and see that there's a God who is

617
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,600
true and a kingdom that is true are

618
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,300
you willing to suffer the tension of seeing

619
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,220
an issue through to its true resolution in

620
00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:56,020
God a precious saint I know in California

621
00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:58,460
a profound woman of God said she had

622
00:29:58,460 --> 00:30:02,940
more hope for my marriage than any number

623
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:05,100
of Christian marriages that she has known that

624
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:09,200
have started so beautifully and auspiciously when ours

625
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,220
has started almost from the beginning in wretchedness

626
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:14,820
and problems and difficulties of adjustment beyond speaking

627
00:30:14,820 --> 00:30:17,540
I said how do you say that look

628
00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:19,900
at the history look at the pockmarked history

629
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,880
of this relationship she said that's why she

630
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,940
said I don't man over to the devil

631
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:27,760
for the destruction of his flesh is to

632
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,180
be lightly disregarded and left that or to

633
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:37,020
be count demanded or sidestepped by some kind

634
00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:38,880
of devious strategy if that were the case

635
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,020
it's the stake of the issue of truth

636
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:45,680
and the reality of God in God's people

637
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,540
it's the stake in the issue of the

638
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:53,980
corruption of deceit and sham as the very

639
00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:56,540
leaven of deception which can permeate and corrupt

640
00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:59,720
the entire lump you just let one phony

641
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,360
confession get through you give a brother the

642
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,340
benefit of the doubt because you're too lazy

643
00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:08,940
or unwilling to suffer the truer resolution and

644
00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:10,780
you allow to come into the lump a

645
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:13,600
leaven that will surely corrupt it and bring

646
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,280
upon you the very spirit of deception which

647
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,200
has affected him it's the issue of judgment

648
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,820
in the church and the judgments of God

649
00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:27,860
being exercised through the church and in the

650
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:31,840
world you wanna know something dear children for

651
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,680
all of the hullabaloo about revival and this

652
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,960
great happy charismatic thing and the hundreds of

653
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,860
thousands that have been swept in my own

654
00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:42,680
opinion is that the church of Jesus Christ

655
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,720
has never been in lower repute it's authority

656
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,020
more questioned it's character more assailed the dignity

657
00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:55,620
and the honor of God more traduced the

658
00:31:55,620 --> 00:31:57,960
name of Jesus more blasphemed than it is

659
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,700
in this present hour I'm broken over the

660
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:06,940
condition of the church because we have not

661
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,840
been jealous over the issues of truth because

662
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320
we have chosen easier ways because we don't

663
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,920
have a disposition for tension and suffering God

664
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,280
has called the church to be a judge

665
00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:27,860
and a government an exemplar and an influence

666
00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:30,620
in society and in nations and in the

667
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:34,340
world instead we are a backwater a hiss

668
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:39,120
and a proverb a Sunday addendum providing the

669
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
ministers to invoke the sessions of congress with

670
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,820
prayer and the various other sanctifying things that

671
00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:47,520
society will give us tax deduction for but

672
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,700
not the powerful alternative of another kind of

673
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,380
kingdom that lives in the totality of God's

674
00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:56,620
truth and righteousness and love we ought to

675
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,560
be sobered by the fact that Christianity has

676
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,100
lost its witness and credibility in the very

677
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:04,840
areas of the world which spawned them the

678
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,480
church at Ephesus in Turkey have you been

679
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,240
to Turkey lately?

680
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,820
I have I've been to Ephesus and some

681
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:15,420
of the other vestiges and the archaeological ruins

682
00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:17,240
of what was once the glory of an

683
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,820
apostolic church Muslim land from beginning to end

684
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:24,280
and what do you say about this Muslim

685
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,700
resurgence which flaunts in the face of God's

686
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,960
people a gauntlet that we can't even answer

687
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:33,760
have you had my experience of standing in

688
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,600
the church at Bethany outside of Jerusalem and

689
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,280
trying to speak a word on the resurrection

690
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,980
of Lazarus when out over the wall next

691
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:44,680
door comes the wailing of the electronic megaphone

692
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,860
of the call to prayer in the minaret

693
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,680
of the Muslim mosque that drowns out your

694
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,680
words and the spirit of it was intimidating

695
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,860
it wasn't a happenstance it was a malicious

696
00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:02,860
gleeful delight of Islam in silencing the voice

697
00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:06,820
of God through his service don't you ever

698
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,000
pick up a magazine do you know what's

699
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,219
happening in the world there's a Muslim resurgence

700
00:34:11,219 --> 00:34:13,920
in the earth and a little handful of

701
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,360
believers that are in Muslim lands are going

702
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,880
to catch it you pray for us that

703
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,380
the Lord will seal the trip to Egypt

704
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:24,900
next spring where we've been invited to bring

705
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,500
a five day conference where the Egyptian saints

706
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:32,239
will face reproach and persecution suffering and martyrdom

707
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,679
how do you think that this Muslim Islam

708
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,500
resurgence has taken place where was God sleeping

709
00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:43,020
or is it God's own statement and judgment

710
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:45,600
against a sleeping church that he has allowed

711
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,699
this phenomenon to taunt us and to cheapen

712
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:50,800
us and to disparage us in the world

713
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,040
in the very places where the church was

714
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,100
born there the Muslim resurgence flares up in

715
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,360
Greece the condition of the church is pitiful

716
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,860
beyond all speaking the land of the great

717
00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:10,200
church of Ephesus and Thessalonica 400 Pentecostal believers

718
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200
in all Athens and everyone divided against the

719
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,260
other you can't believe the pitiful condition of

720
00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:21,320
Pentecost in Greece 4,000 Pentecostal in all

721
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,780
Yugoslavia in a land that is 50%

722
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:28,700
Muslim the church has lost its witness and

723
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:30,400
credibility in the very areas of the world

724
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,320
which spawned them societies and nations once acknowledging

725
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,100
the sovereignty of Christ had become totally secularized

726
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,180
even hostile to Christian witness was the process

727
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,380
of that decline and diminution different from what

728
00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:47,080
it is today how much of the responsibility

729
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,860
for it was due to the failure of

730
00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:52,200
men to earnestly contend for the faith which

731
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,100
was once delivered unto the saints and I

732
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,280
have a sneaky feeling that doesn't mean the

733
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,700
doctrines the tenets of the faith it means

734
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:05,520
the faith the utterness toward God the jealousy

735
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,820
for the righteousness of God for the truth

736
00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:11,700
and the purity of his body we need

737
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:17,430
to contend for that faith how much is

738
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:20,730
it the same issue now we need to

739
00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:22,550
watch lest we find ourselves among the many

740
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:24,410
that will have a form of religion but

741
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:27,510
deny the power thereof the stakes are enormous

742
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:30,390
it goes far beyond an individual far beyond

743
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:32,410
the decision of a body of men who

744
00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:35,270
have responsibility in northern Minnesota it touches a

745
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:39,770
kingdom it will have eternal reverberations it has

746
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:41,130
to do with whether there shall actually be

747
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:43,810
in the earth a kingdom that has its

748
00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:46,190
origin in heaven and shows forth heavenly things

749
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:50,270
to a despairing mankind a church that will

750
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:52,390
not be a backwater but will be a

751
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:54,930
leader not the tail but the head that

752
00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:56,630
will set the tone for society and for

753
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:59,310
civilization and will show men what truth verity

754
00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:05,170
integrity righteousness true love unfeigned is and it

755
00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:07,370
has to do with issues like this now

756
00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:11,790
the government of God and the integrity of

757
00:37:11,790 --> 00:37:14,270
God himself the kingdom of God as an

758
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:17,070
actuality in the earth an alternative to a

759
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:20,210
plastic age to a bankruptcy of the spirit

760
00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:22,470
in which there is no oil an answer

761
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:28,490
to the cry for authenticity final statement I'm

762
00:37:28,490 --> 00:37:31,990
reading today a magazine about Christianity in Greece

763
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:36,110
this Greek spokesman writes if you were to

764
00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:40,530
take away lay efforts the initiative of certain

765
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:42,350
labors in the gospel it is questionable whether

766
00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:44,210
the church as an organized body could raise

767
00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:48,210
up an army of warriors as an offspring

768
00:37:48,210 --> 00:37:50,990
of her spiritual stature and of her historical

769
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:54,750
splendor the result of this situation is glances

770
00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:57,870
of pity at her expense an extreme fomenting

771
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:01,670
of religious pride merchandising in religious things and

772
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:05,490
an inability to take a saving initiative and

773
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:08,030
to shake the ground of satan at its

774
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:10,890
foundations and to inflame the hearts of believers

775
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:16,870
an inability to take Take a saving initiative

776
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:21,470
in the world, a backwater, no influence, nothing

777
00:38:21,470 --> 00:38:24,070
really to be regarded, a bunch of hokey

778
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:27,650
pietists at best, a little charismatic hand clappers,

779
00:38:28,510 --> 00:38:31,450
little choruses that are innocuous, charismatic clinics that

780
00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:32,150
affect nothing.

781
00:38:33,090 --> 00:38:35,390
Where is that ponderous presence of God on

782
00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:38,010
the earth, that force, that voice of judgment,

783
00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:40,570
that clarity that teaches men how to live

784
00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:42,390
and shows what truth is?

785
00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:47,190
To take a saving initiative and to shake

786
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:48,250
the ground of Satan.

787
00:38:50,410 --> 00:38:52,470
Paul I know and Jesus I know, but

788
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:57,770
the body of Christ in La Porte, Cass

789
00:38:57,770 --> 00:39:01,450
Lake, Bemidji, who?

790
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:04,650
Spokane, Washington, who?

791
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:08,270
It's going to take an utterness toward God.

792
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:13,730
If the church is to have a saving

793
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:17,770
influence, to shake the ground of Satan at

794
00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:20,190
its foundation and to inflame the hearts of

795
00:39:20,190 --> 00:39:20,530
believers.

796
00:39:21,850 --> 00:39:23,190
Will you pray for me for the church?

797
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:26,230
Will you understand why it is that we

798
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,990
have been trembling over the responsibility of these

799
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:28,310
days?

800
00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:31,050
Why it is we're not so quick to

801
00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:36,810
grasp at what seems to be the olive

802
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:41,130
leaf of peace, the sense of things plastic,

803
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:44,490
things famed, things hokey, things counterfeit.

804
00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:47,350
Hail, hail the gangs all here, Jesus 79,

805
00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:49,550
hokey things over the nation.

806
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:53,430
Great cavalcades, thousands of souls in their halters,

807
00:39:54,030 --> 00:39:55,990
cracking gum and stuffing their face with potato

808
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:59,090
chips listening to pontifical addresses about let's forgive

809
00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:01,890
the Catholic Church without the necessity for repentance

810
00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:04,190
of the blood of martyrs that has flown

811
00:40:04,190 --> 00:40:05,910
incessantly for 2,000 years.

812
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:09,270
Well, some hotshot speaker may have the privilege

813
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:10,710
of forgiving them, but it's not my prerogative

814
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:13,790
and especially without any evidence of true repentance.

815
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:14,970
Where's their breaking?

816
00:40:15,490 --> 00:40:17,710
Where's their acknowledgement of what they have wreaked

817
00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:20,110
on the Hutterites and the Mennonites and the

818
00:40:20,110 --> 00:40:22,290
Anabaptists and the brave men and women who

819
00:40:22,290 --> 00:40:23,670
were tied back to back and thrown into

820
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:25,530
streams to drown or were burned at the

821
00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:28,350
stake or cut into pieces and flogged to

822
00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:28,610
death?

823
00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:31,890
I'm not so quick to pronounce a cheapie.

824
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:34,250
I'm waiting to see the authentic signs of

825
00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:37,890
brokenness, acknowledgement of true sin, that there might

826
00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:41,690
be true restoration, true reconciliation, true fellowship at

827
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:42,970
the cross of Christ Jesus.

828
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:44,890
Shall we pray for truth?

829
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Precious God and head of the church, you

830
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,160
who gave your life's blood for your eternal

831
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,260
masterpiece, the church of Jesus Christ, that it

832
00:41:09,260 --> 00:41:10,860
might be a glory unto thy name.

833
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,440
Lord, will you break our hearts, mighty God?

834
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,340
Would to God I could experience the relief

835
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:18,040
of tears.

836
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:20,420
Let this lump, mighty God, that is in

837
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:22,060
my chest break.

838
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,740
Let there be a groaning and a crying

839
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:29,380
and a writhing for the lamentable condition of

840
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:31,040
the church that bears your name in the

841
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,080
earth, that is a reproach to your holy

842
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,380
name, that is smiled at by knowledgeable men

843
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:42,460
and reporters and slicksters about the born-again

844
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:45,860
football players, the born-againers and all of

845
00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:49,260
the cheapie phrases that touch holy things and

846
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:50,000
defile them.

847
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Precious God, will you restore to us a

848
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,780
sense of reverence for you?

849
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,560
Will you restore to the church the fear

850
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,940
and the awe of God?

851
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,340
We're willing, precious God, to see your glory

852
00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:07,300
and power restored to the point that if

853
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,840
it means some of us being carried out

854
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,040
feet first, we're willing.

855
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,760
Let the church be an awesome entity in

856
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,520
the earth where men are exercising by the

857
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,760
power of your spirit true government and true

858
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,380
authority, that their words shall not be smirked

859
00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:28,540
at or laughed at or dismissed, but that

860
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:30,660
men would receive them with the appropriate tremblings

861
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:33,700
they deserve, that they might be broken and

862
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:34,560
not just bent.

863
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Lord, if there are any of us here

864
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,160
tonight who are bent but not broken, we

865
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,020
ask your mercy.

866
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,100
See us as the pathetic victims we are

867
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,300
of a cheapie age.

868
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:50,880
Easy come, easy go.

869
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,260
Easy decisions for Jesus.

870
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,500
Why don't you accept him already?

871
00:42:56,540 --> 00:43:00,200
Nobody had ever required of us a repentance

872
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,600
that we might believe.

873
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,220
How many of us are continuing to struggle,

874
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,860
Lord, with stubborn problems and habits and difficulties

875
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:12,600
that will not go away because we can't

876
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,600
stand the suffering and the humiliation of confessing

877
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,280
them to another?

878
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,060
We've been living in the spirit of false

879
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:23,560
confession and we're struggling with the same stubborn

880
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,200
problems that will not go.

881
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:28,780
Mighty God, will you help us?

882
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:31,280
Will you break us for the church's sake?

883
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,460
Will you purge us, precious God, of all

884
00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:38,970
the plastic things, all that sugary stuff and

885
00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:44,170
marshmallow stuff, of sham-fabricated affection and love

886
00:43:44,170 --> 00:43:46,350
which is only human and passing and qualified

887
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:48,970
and has to do with whether we're in

888
00:43:48,970 --> 00:43:49,830
a good mood or not.

889
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:52,090
Will you get that truth out of us,

890
00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:53,630
Lord God, which people are so quick to

891
00:43:53,630 --> 00:43:57,090
accept and give us a disposition even to

892
00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:59,690
suffer, lovelessness, while we wait for that which

893
00:43:59,690 --> 00:44:01,110
is authentic to fill our hearts?

894
00:44:03,130 --> 00:44:04,130
Have a real people.

895
00:44:07,630 --> 00:44:10,130
Have glory in your name, precious God.

896
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:12,050
Have a true church.

897
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:15,350
Be the influence in the earth again that

898
00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:15,850
you ought.

899
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:18,970
Take back the territory that has been ceded

900
00:44:18,970 --> 00:44:20,150
and yielded to Islam.

901
00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:24,090
Let there be a vibrant church of Jesus

902
00:44:24,090 --> 00:44:26,610
Christ again in Greece and in Turkey and

903
00:44:26,610 --> 00:44:27,150
in Jerusalem.

904
00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:31,070
Bring your people to true repentance and true

905
00:44:31,070 --> 00:44:31,530
return.

906
00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:34,570
We'll thank you and praise you, precious God,

907
00:44:35,230 --> 00:44:37,010
for the love that pursues us and will

908
00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:39,490
not let us go, for thy kingdom and

909
00:44:39,490 --> 00:44:40,390
for thy name's sake.

910
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:30,780
Amen.

911
00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:58,970
I have a concern on my heart, and

912
00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:02,550
I don't know how to validly express it,

913
00:49:02,670 --> 00:49:08,010
but my concern is that we don't try

914
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:15,510
to, even in our sincerity, sing away the

915
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:20,190
tension of this moment, but that whatever God

916
00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:23,350
wants to do, that we allow him to

917
00:49:23,350 --> 00:49:29,130
do that, and that we take time, if

918
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:32,110
necessary, to wait on the Lord in silence,

919
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:35,390
or we dismiss the meeting, or whatever the

920
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:36,310
Lord would have us do.

921
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:50,430
Amen.

922
00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:55,780
It's not my custom to come before such

923
00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:58,740
a large group, but I have a small

924
00:49:58,740 --> 00:49:59,420
word for you.

925
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:07,250
I spent last night with a brother whose

926
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:11,390
heart is torn over the same situation, and

927
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:13,090
it's more towards the repentance of the body

928
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:15,930
of Christ than one man.

929
00:50:17,090 --> 00:50:19,850
The issue at which has been cast before

930
00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:23,430
you, I hope you dare not take it

931
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:31,870
lightly, because my father's tears cry for your

932
00:50:31,870 --> 00:50:34,490
heart, and they fall upon my soul.

933
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,300
I want your heart, and I'll settle for

934
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:46,080
nothing less.

935
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,920
Dare you to stand in my presence and

936
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,660
throw this in my face, and I shall

937
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:53,460
consume you.

938
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:04,220
Truly this world shall see my wrath, and

939
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:08,320
they shall see the glory of my saints

940
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:14,700
revealed in the hearts of those that dare

941
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:15,280
love me.

942
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:27,210
Even so, come Lord Jesus, and I know

943
00:51:27,210 --> 00:51:29,310
there are those hearts here that are not

944
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:30,250
yielded.

945
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:37,520
You're not playing a game, and I truly

946
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,340
can feel those tears, and it's just like

947
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:43,980
drops of steel when they hit my heart,

948
00:51:44,740 --> 00:51:48,280
and he weeps, and he receives the repentance

949
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,400
of those that are repentant, but he desires

950
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,700
all of you, every single one of you.

951
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:01,270
There's a place, and if I could spend

952
00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:02,750
tonight too, if it would do any good,

953
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:06,890
I'd do that too, just with him, but

954
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:08,650
only do what he calls, and that's what

955
00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:10,930
you must do, only what he calls you

956
00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:11,470
to do.

957
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:13,810
If it means give your life, you give

958
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:21,080
it, because you love him, and it's not

959
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,460
a game, and it's not a play.

960
00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:28,780
We desire to see life come forth, because

961
00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:30,440
we can touch a brother and heal him,

962
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,620
and indeed we shall, but cry with my

963
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:41,920
father and with I, and yield yourself to

964
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:49,570
the beckon of his spirit, and I know

965
00:52:49,570 --> 00:52:52,510
these issues have not been a short time

966
00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:56,210
in coming, and it's not easy to see

967
00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:59,290
them birthed in your own life, or in

968
00:52:59,290 --> 00:52:59,930
your brother's.

969
00:53:03,470 --> 00:53:05,710
Like Brother Gitchum here, I know him very

970
00:53:05,710 --> 00:53:09,530
little, but I have died for that man

971
00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:18,270
this year, and it's not easy to see

972
00:53:18,270 --> 00:53:21,490
someone so frivolously dance before God, and kick

973
00:53:21,490 --> 00:53:28,720
it in his face as dust, and God

974
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,940
has chosen that man, and blessed him, and

975
00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:35,960
sent him partway around the world to bless

976
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,940
us with the love that the world has

977
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:43,990
so long waited to see, and that knot

978
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:46,870
that twists within you is not there because

979
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:55,010
of indigestion, it's your father, and he wants

980
00:53:55,010 --> 00:53:59,410
your insides, and if you are called, he's

981
00:53:59,410 --> 00:54:03,030
going to get them, because he, nor I,

982
00:54:03,490 --> 00:54:05,930
nor anyone else called to this ministry will

983
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:06,590
let you go.

984
00:54:10,030 --> 00:54:13,050
And for that we are committed, and for

985
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:13,910
that we shall die.

986
00:54:16,270 --> 00:54:17,150
God bless you.

987
00:54:27,470 --> 00:54:29,370
Charles and I are just whispering together about

988
00:54:29,370 --> 00:54:33,070
should we dismiss or not, and so I

989
00:54:33,070 --> 00:54:36,450
was instructing him what he should say, he

990
00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:39,830
said, you dismiss them, and I was saying,

991
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:44,290
let them go soberly, and not to leave

992
00:54:44,290 --> 00:54:47,450
bent, but to invite God to press, to

993
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:50,870
increase the pressure unto breaking, and if they

994
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:53,790
have nothing to repent for in themselves, let

995
00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:55,770
them repent for the condition of the church,

996
00:54:56,690 --> 00:54:59,370
break and weep for the church, be broken

997
00:54:59,370 --> 00:55:02,930
for the condition of the church, don't let

998
00:55:02,930 --> 00:55:04,550
it be a dull pressure that will in

999
00:55:04,550 --> 00:55:08,130
time subside, but invite the Lord to press

1000
00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:10,890
unto breaking, don't bend, don't be satisfied with

1001
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:11,770
merely being bent.

1002
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,400
So Lord, we just ask you to seal

1003
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,360
what was the work of your spirit tonight,

1004
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,280
whatever the human admixture, Lord, we ask you

1005
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,620
to make that null and void, dissipate it

1006
00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:28,600
out of our memory and consciousness, but let

1007
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,220
that which came out of your own pure

1008
00:55:30,220 --> 00:55:34,620
heart continue there to work, mighty God, to

1009
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:38,080
vibrate, to penetrate, Lord, to work a real

1010
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,400
work, gracious God, to break us, have a

1011
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,680
supple-yielded people, mighty God, who live in

1012
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,740
the shadow of the cross, not a phony,

1013
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,000
pious people, but those who are sinners saved

1014
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,360
by grace daily, who can hear the confessions

1015
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,960
of a brother, for they themselves live beneath

1016
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,940
the shadow of the same cross.

1017
00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:03,640
Thank you, Lord, for this love of which

1018
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,820
we're conscious tonight.

1019
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,600
Seal us in this particular speaking, strive with

1020
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,400
us through the night hours and in these

1021
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,960
days to come, and let your word have

1022
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,920
all of the effect and intent that was

1023
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:18,840
in your heart to perform.

1024
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:21,200
We bless your holy name and thank you

1025
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,040
for such a love as this, a real

1026
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,660
God, not playing with kids, but speaking to

1027
00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:28,500
us as true sons and daughters.

1028
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:30,100
Bless your name.

1029
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,720
Dismiss us with your blessing.

1030
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,700
In Yeshua's name we pray.

1031
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,420
Amen.
