Well, Dr. Stan, back here at Radio Liberty,
and of course, our guest this evening, John
Daniel, his book, Scarlet and the Beast, actually,
it's a three-volume book, and we do
carry it here at Radio Liberty, if you're
interested in it.
Our telephone number, 4648295, or 1-888-24
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And this is probably the most extensive expose
of the Masonic influence, and you'll find, for
instance, the man who created the CIA was
a highly-placed Mason, Alan Dulles.
Isn't that right, John?
Right.
And, of course, so many of the people
who had actually gone to Europe, along with
Colonel House back in 1917, pardon me, 1918,
1919, to sign the Versailles Treaty, and then,
of course, at that time, they met with
the representatives of the English roundtable group, so
-called Milner's men, and decided that they had
to join the two Anglo-English-speaking empires
together, the American, the British, and, of course,
in England, they created the Royal Institutes for
International Affairs, and in the United States, they
created an organization which came to be known
as the Council on Foreign Relations, which, according
to Professor Quigley, on pages 951 and 952
of Tragedy and Hope, was simply a front
organization for the small English roundtable group, and,
of course, for J.P. Morgan Bank.
And, of course, you need to have a
copy of Tragedy and Hope at your side
of your radio so that you can check
out to see if I'm telling you what's
true or what's not, but Tragedy and Hope
is must-reading, and, of course, this is
a very, very important book we're talking about
tonight, and you may very well want to
get a copy of it and keep it
at your bedside as well, because then you
can begin to see this interplay between the
Council on Foreign Relations, the roundtable, and the
Masons.
Now, what is the relationship between the Council
on Foreign Relations and the Masons?
You mentioned earlier that Cecil Rhodes had been
a Mason, that Milner then, who carried on
the Rhodes Trust and the Rhodes Secret Society,
himself was a Mason, and then is there
today within the Council on Foreign Relations a
strong Masonic influence?
It doesn't have to be.
They have taken over our universities, and all
you have to do is be left of
center and you can become a member.
If you are anywhere right and you become
a member, before long you will do their
bidding or your sins will be exposed.
But I want to go back to the
League of Nations and United Nations, because here
we have the war between English and French
Freemasonry.
All right, why don't you pick it up
there, then?
Okay, the League of Nations, actually the phrase
League of Nations was founded or created in
1913 in French Freemasonry.
It didn't come from our President Woodrow Wilson.
It's only given to him as an honorary
thing because of what he did in bringing
the United States into World War I.
But the League of Nations, before Woodrow Wilson
became a President, the idea started in French
Freemasonry.
It even started before First World War, as
I said, 1913.
And they planned to make this League of
Nations after this war.
They knew that they were going to create
a war, and I document this in the
book.
How do you document?
What's the documentation?
I go into the assassination of Duke Ferdinand
of Hungary.
And, of course, that was actually the Masonic
Lodge, wasn't it?
That was the Masonic Lodge.
Masons furnished the weapons.
Are you talking about Archduke Ferdinand?
Right, Archduke Ferdinand.
Archduke Hungary, right.
Right, Masons furnished the weapons, and it was
Masons that pulled the trigger and threw the
bombs.
And what we don't hear in our history
books throughout World War I in Hungary was
the trial for these assassins.
And they were sent into prison, and they
died in prison.
And I quote the transcript from that trial
of them admitting they were Masons, they were
funded by Freemasons, their weapons were given to
them by Freemasons, and the whole purpose of
killing Duke Ferdinand was to trigger a war,
a world war, they called it, they didn't
call it a world war at that time,
but to trigger a European war so that
they could, so Freemasonry could take over all
nations in one fell swoop rather than go
by nation by nation.
I think it's very interesting, I have a
copy, actually two copies in my library of
the autobiography of Kaiser Wilhelm.
And in that book he actually talks about
how he had been informed that prior to
the First World War meetings had been held
at the Masonic Lodges in the Grand Orient
to plan the First World War.
And of course their purpose was to destroy
the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Germany, and of
course to bring about this world government.
And this is what was said by the
German Kaiser, because he never understood, I mean
the war didn't make any sense to him,
but then it didn't make any sense to
the people in the United States, it didn't
make any sense to the people in England,
it didn't make sense to the people in
France or Russia, nobody wanted the war other
than these secret societies who dreamed this dream
of a one world government under their control.
Exactly, and so after the war, then the
League of Nations was to bring peace around
the world.
And English Freemasonry boycotted it.
They didn't want to have anything to do
with it because they didn't control it.
Their enemy, French Freemasonry, controlled it.
And so this is where the roundtables went
to the League of Nations and to a
hotel after the peace conference, and they created
the Council on Foreign Relations.
That was a majestic hotel.
That was a majestic hotel, and the whole
purpose was to infiltrate or destroy the League
of Nations and create a United Nations that
English Freemasonry would control.
And this is where they funded Hitler.
The express purpose of funding Hitler and bringing
on World War II was to destroy the
League of Nations, and they were successful in
that.
They sure were.
Let's go to Tony.
Hi Tony, how are you doing?
Oh, pretty good, thank you.
You were talking about the origins of World
War I here, the Masonic influence.
Right.
And in the past you've talked about the
Carnegie Institute for Peace, as far as in
the Congressional investigation, I believe it was in
1910, about how they...
1908 and 1999, and the quotation comes from
Norman Dodd, who had had one of his
agents, Miss Catherine Casey, Catherine Casey go through
the records of the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace, and even before it was incorporated, when
they were still holding meetings preparatory to incorporation,
they were planning on creating a war.
Right.
Thank you very much for clarifying that.
Well, my question is then, if the Carnegie
Institute was planning for World War I, as
far as how to involve the United States
into this war conflict, is there a link
between the Masonic Order and the Great Foundations?
All right, you've got the question.
Okay, thanks, Tony.
Did you get the question, John?
Yes, there is a link.
I haven't been able to find the link
directly to Freemasonry, but it is linked to
the Round Tables, the Council on Foreign Relations,
the Trilateral Commission, all of which are arms,
semi-secret arms of English Freemasonry.
Oh, Tony, Andrew Carnegie was involved with the
occult.
I don't know if he was a Mason,
but he certainly was involved with the occult,
as was Henry Ford, as were so many
of these key people.
Now, how can I make that statement?
Well, you could read the book Spiritual Politics,
and if you get the book by Kathleen,
let's see, her name is McLaughlin, and Kareem
McLaughlin, and Davidson, Gordon Davidson, I think it
is.
Fascinating, because it's written from the occultist's point
of view, and they point out that Carnegie
was involved with the occult.
And, of course, the occultic view has always
been to create this world government, and the
same was true with Henry Ford, which is
why Henry Ford financed Adolf Hitler.
You remember, he had the Ford Motor Plants
there, and he got the highest award that
any civilian could get from Adolf Hitler, but
he also built the Gorky Motor Plant in
Russia.
And, of course, he was never getting any
money out of Russia, but he was building
up the Russian society, because, of course, this
was a stepping stone towards world government, and
it doesn't make any sense unless you understand
that Henry Ford himself was deeply involved with
the occult.
And then, of course, it all begins to
make sense, and all the little parts begin
to fall in together.
The interesting thing about Henry Ford, and after
he got that great honor by the Nazis,
he was a 32nd degree Mason at that
time, and after he got that honor, he
was given the 33rd degree Mason in northern
jurisdiction of Freemasonry.
Isn't that interesting?
Yes.
And, of course, what about the Rockefellers?
Is there any tie of the Rockefellers into
Masonry?
I can't find any direct involvement in Freemasonry.
They are into the occult.
They are members of, oh, it just slipped
my mind, the Satanic group here in the
United States.
You're not talking about the Lucis Trust?
Lucis Trust.
Okay.
They're a member of the Lucis Trust.
Some of them certainly are.
Right.
In fact, it was Lawrence Rockefeller's Fund for
the Advancement of the Humanities that financed the
book written by Barbara Marks Hubbard, The Revelation
of the Book of Co-Creation, where she
called for killing a quarter of the world's
population, those defective seeds who could not evolve
to a higher consciousness, and you will find
that quoted in my book, Sustainable Development.
We'll even send you the pages from her
book if you send a self-addressed stamped
envelope.
This is the original manuscript that was not
copyrighted, and, of course, she calls these people
who will not evolve, the defective seeds who
will have to be killed.
That's not your job, my dear.
That's ours, for we are the riders of
the pale horse, death.
Yep, and all today it's called the New
Age Movement.
Right.
And I have two chapters in Scarlet and
the Beast, the volume one, of how Freemasonry
created the New Age Movement.
Well, could you get into that?
Because I think that is probably one of
the most important aspects of this whole incredible
story.
Yes.
Let me make sure that I've got the
two chapters in mind there and look at
my notes here.
Actually, of course, the magazine that the Masons
published up until, I guess, what, about the
late 1980s, was known as the New Age
Magazine.
Right.
And then, of course, as the New Age
Movement began to take off, they just changed
the name to the Scottish Rite Magazine.
Right.
That was done in 1991.
It was changed to the Scottish Rite because
of the exposure by Fisher of the New
Age Magazine.
Now, who was Fisher and what was that
expose?
I've never heard about that.
Oh, Paul Fisher.
Yeah, Paul Fisher.
And his book, Behind the Lodged Door, of
course.
Yeah, Behind the Lodged Door.
I was trying to think Behind the Green
Door, but it's Behind the Lodged Door, the
song, Behind the Green Door.
But Fisher exposed the New Age Magazine, and
so they changed it to Scottish Rite in
1991.
But in Chapter 14, I document that Lucifer
is the god of Freemasonry.
And in Chapter 15, I document Freemasonry and
the New Age Movement, how it got it
started through what I call sub-lodges.
In Chapter 16, the New Age Movement unites
English and French Freemasonry.
And that was partly through the UN, the
United Nations.
But in 1889, in Paris, France, there was
a great union of the Atheists, the Spiritists,
the Luciferians, and Freemasonry.
All four were meeting in their annual conference,
and they united there in Paris, France that
particular year.
And then after that, after that particular year,
they started in England what I call sub
-lodges.
It was lodges that did not contain the
name Freemasonry, but all of them founded by
either 32nd- or 33rd-degree Masons.
Now, that was the same year that the
Socialist Internationale, the Second Socialist Internationale, was formed,
as I remember.
Right.
Is there any tie-in between Masonry and
the Socialist Internationale?
You bet.
They were meeting in Paris, France, at that
same particular time.
And if I'm not mistaken, oh, the lady's
name took over after Blavatsky.
Annie Besant.
Annie Besant spoke to that group.
She was one of the key speakers at
that Internationale.
She had been a member of the original
Fabian Socialist Movement.
Right.
Most people think these Socialists are atheists, but,
of course, among the leaders, many times they
were involved in the occult.
And it was Annie Besant, the Fabian Socialist,
who then became the disciple of Madame Blavatsky,
came to run the Theosophical Occult, the Luciferian
organization, up until the time she died and
Alice Bailey took over.
Right.
And all of this was created just before
that movement.
They created what is called the Quatorque Coronado
Lodge of Masonic Research in England.
And from that then came all of these
sub-societies, the OTO, the Aleister Crowley's group
came out of that.
And from this then nothing could be blamed
on Freemasonry because these names did not contain
the name Freemasonry.
How about the Order of the Golden Dawn?
The Order of the Golden Dawn was founded
in 1887 by one 32nd degree Mason and
one 33rd degree Mason.
Okay.
And, of course, this then is another one
of these subterranean occult movements which has played
such an important part in the unfolding of
the world's history.
Right.
Aleister Crowley ended up controlling that particular organization.
He was the most evil Luciferian in the
world.
He was a 33rd degree Mason, incidentally, and
all your British rock stars today hold him
up as their god.
Right.
Well, now, as this whole incredible thing has
unfolded, what was the position of the Masonic
movement towards the separation of church and state?
In other words, getting God or Christianity out
of our schools and acknowledgement of the Christian
foundations of America removed from contemporary society?
You've got to go all the way back
to the French Revolution to understand that.
The French Revolution is the first to, in
their revolutionary movement and in their constitution, outlawed
church and state, and used that specific name,
to outlaw church and state.
They didn't say religion and state.
They said church and state.
Likewise, in the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, in
their constitution, there was a separation of church
and state.
In our nation, there was freedom of religion.
There was no separation of church and state.
There was no separation of state and religion
at all.
And what happened was, when Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
a 32nd degree Mason, became president, he started
stacking the Supreme Court with his buddy Masons.
And I didn't say bloody, I said buddy.
His buddy Masons.
And by the time 1945, there were six
of the nine justices were his Scottish Rite
Masons, and remained the majority on the Supreme
Court until 1973.
So it was that majority of Masons that
outlawed Bible and prayer in our schools.
That's almost 28 years they controlled our Supreme
Court when these most dramatic changes in all
of recorded history took place within our society.
Right.
And it was one of those justices, Justice
Jackson, who made the statement that when the
Supreme Court said that the thought of our
founding fathers, the intent of our founding fathers,
in that First Amendment of freedom of religion,
said their intent was separation of church and
state.
And when Justice Jackson was asked, questioned why
that, he said the Constitution is what we
judges, Supreme Court justices, say it is.
And so it was a treasonous act, to
be quite frank, in doing that.
But it's interesting that it isn't separation of
religion and state, it's separation of church and
state.
So the occult is taught in our school
systems because of that.
Well, of course, the interesting thing is our
young people are told to make choices on
their own for what they want to do.
And when they think they're ready to have
sex, they should have it with the, you
know, want to smoke or do these other
things, they have to learn how to make
intelligent choices.
And that's exactly what Aleister Crowley taught, do
without will, that is the whole of the
law.
And, of course, our activities have to be
based upon, not upon our law, not upon
our morality, but God's morality.
And freedom is not the ability to do
whatever you want to do, it's the ability
to do what you should do according to
God's law.
And that is never taught in our schools
today.
We're teaching Crowleyism and Satanism, the basic philosophy
of Satanism.
That's right.
But, Dr. Monteith, it was planned that way.
They are willing to destroy a whole generation
of children for the express purpose of wiping
out Christianity.
I read the most amazing article a couple
of days ago.
There was a, in Southern California, there was
a young man who was shooting at people
driving along the highways.
And he shot at about 80 people.
And he was finally picked up.
And, I mean, he was a 22 or
23-year-old college student, an intelligent, a
very nice-looking young man.
And his comment was, and I don't know
how many people he killed in the process
of doing this, the highway shooter.
And he said, you know, why are you
criticizing me?
He said, most of you, you know, would
be fantasizing doing exactly the same thing.
After all, I put very little value in
human life.
And I thought, how could a young man
in America today take an attitude that human
life is unimportant?
And then, of course, if you see what
he's being taught in school, it's all right
to abort children.
It's all right to kill off the elderly.
There is no God.
There's no absolutes.
You make your own decisions.
Then you begin to understand that we've destroyed
a whole generation of our youth.
Right.
We have been desensitized by the rock and
roll music and by Hollywood movies.
And, of course, one of the more interesting
things is the effect of the video games
on the minds of our youth.
You can teach them how to kill very
easily.
They do it all the time in the
arcades with a gun, shooting somebody, and they
fall over and they're dead.
These are the same men who may well
be the soldiers who will be marching through
our streets, strutting through our streets before long,
of course, maintaining order as imposed by the
authoritarian society who will think nothing at all
about shooting Americans.
In fact, in that questionnaire that was given
to the Marines at 29 Palms by their
commanders asking them if they would be willing
to shoot American citizens, if they wouldn't give
up their weapons, and I think 27 percent
of them said they'd be quite willing to
shoot fellow Americans.
Right.
And I think that's frightening.
And yet that's the end result of what
has happened in our society, and we've allowed
it to happen.
And the other frightening thing is our nation's
backing of the U.N. I saw something
two nights ago on the news that was
extremely frightening.
These U.N. peacekeepers.
Oh, yes, I saw that data.
Torture and rape.
And nothing was ever done to them.
And nothing was ever done with them.
Even the one who was roasting the little
boy over the fire.
And they actually showed those pictures of them
roasting the little boy over the fire, and,
of course, nothing was ever done to them.
Now, what's going to happen is, you see,
our military cannot take up arms against our
people, but the U.N. can.
And the U.N. is putting foreign troops
on our bases throughout this land, and when
our government is ready to take over and
destroy our freedom, it's going to be the
U.N. soldiers, and there's going to be
murder and rape done by them.
Well, that's exactly what they said in this
Dateline documentary.
There was murder and rape and torture carried
out by the U.N. soldiers, but the
U.N. had no means of disciplining them,
and nothing was ever done.
So you have nothing to fear from the
U.N. because you know they're not going
to discipline their irresponsible soldiers.
Right.
Or sort of like boys will be boys,
and yet we are sending our boys to
be U.N. soldiers.
In fact, we're financing most of the United
Nations' so-called peacekeeping operations, which is simply
a means of imposing our will on nations
throughout the world.
And if we pay to do that, one
day, can we have anything to complain about
if our freedom is taken away from us,
as we've taken away freedom from other people
in other countries?
Nope.
It's going to happen here, and we're letting
it happen.
No.
Because we've got our head in the sand.
And of course, one of the things is,
hasn't it always been the objective of the
World Masonic and World Occult Movement to create
a one-world government under the rule of
the Antichrist?
Right.
And the thing is, this is nothing more
than the war that Lucifer, Satan, warred against
God to take over his throne.
When he was cast out of heaven, the
only place that he can take over now
is Earth.
But you know, one of the things that
really bothers me is that our churches aren't
speaking out against the United Nations.
I mean, anybody with half an ounce of
intelligence should be able to see that the
United Nations is to be the world government
of the Antichrist.
And where's the outcry?
Where's the outrage from our religious leaders?
The whole thing is that our Founding Fathers,
the symbol of the Illuminati, which is on
the left side on the back of our
one-dollar bill, it says, announcing the birth,
in Latin, it says, announcing the birth of
a new world order.
The purpose of the United States was founded
by Freemasonry to see if 13 nations could
unite under one federal government without warring with
each other.
And if that could be successful, then they
could unite the whole world likewise.
That's the whole purpose of the United States.
This United States was the catalyst.
Now, this wasn't known, but just that inner
core of Freemasonry, the United States was the
catalyst to bring upon this world a United
Nations, a united world.
If you read the book, Spirits of Politics,
Corrine McLaughlin and Davidson break this very, very
clearly, that the occultists have always looked upon
the United Nations, pardon me, the United States
as the vehicle that would bring about this
one world order.
And, of course, the writings of Manley Hall,
one of the world's leading occultists, made that
point.
America, the secret destiny of America, was to
lead the world into this one world government.
But, you know, my impression has always been
that there were two parallel forces at work
here.
One was the Christian force, which motivated many
of our founding fathers and many of the
people who were here in America for such
a long period of time.
And then this occult force, which certainly had
infiltrated the upper echelons of our government, got
their people to design the front and back
of the great seal of the United States,
which today we see on the dollar bill,
and the competition between these two forces, and,
of course, the constant effort to keep the
occult influence down.
And then eventually, of course, with the presidency
of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the Masonic influence,
and then the following president, 33rd degree Harry
Truman, that with this Masonic impetus, the Christian
influence began to wane and the occult influence
began to wax.
Would you agree or disagree with that?
No, I agree with that.
And this is totally prophetic.
In the book of Isaiah, I don't have
the scripture right now.
I think it's in chapter 59.
In the book of Isaiah, the prophet says,
and this is God speaking through the prophet,
I will set up my standard in the
West before Satan comes in.
Before Satan comes in.
So the church came to America first before
Satan came in and took over like a
flood.
That's the way the scripture states it.
And I think that's really so true, and
I think people have to understand the Satanic
influence that has infiltrated every aspect of our
society today.
Now, how does this whole Masonic movement tie
into the formation of the common European government
and the establishment of the European currency as
you see it unfolding?
This is another interesting prophetic aspect.
Of course, this was the whole purpose of
Freemasonry was to unite the world.
It wasn't any problem with uniting the United
States because it never had a kingdom.
The problem is uniting Europe.
First of all, they had to throw out
the kings and then set up the democracies.
But the problem is uniting Europe.
It wasn't a big problem here in the
United States because one of the first things
Congress did was what language are we going
to speak here?
And so the question was, was it going
to be German or was it going to
be English?
And by one vote, it was voted to
be English.
And so it's easy to unite a people
when they all speak the same language.
And easy to divide them when you have
several languages, which is why they're encouraging the
just rapid influx of so many immigrants, and
so many of them Spanish-speaking, because they
want to create in America exactly what they've
created in Canada with the French and the
English-speaking.
Divide and conquer is the old adage, and
they're so good at it.
The interesting thing, a prophetic part of this
in Europe, is the Eurocorps, the monetary system
in Europe.
The Bible said there will be ten nations
involved in this.
Today there are 11 nations that are ready,
that as of the first of this year
supposedly started with the Eurodollar.
Ah, England opted out until 2002.
And so we have ten nations over there
with that one currency.
Isn't that a coincidence?
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Yeah, I was just calling.
I pretty much had an impression that George
Washington and Thomas Jefferson, those guys were Freemasons.
Well, certainly George Washington was, but the masonry
that he believed in had not become occultic
at all.
The occult influence came into America much, much
later, after Washington.
In fact, if you read Washington's writings, as
he's an older man, he warned against the
influence of the Illuminati and these other influences,
which he recognized were coming into masonry.
And although, as a young man, he did
attend the lodges, apparently he attended very seldom
after that.
Would you comment on that, John?
Yes.
In the United States was both the French
and the English lodges.
George Washington joined an English lodge before the
Revolution.
And during the Revolution, they turned all the
British lodges into American lodges.
They called it the severed relationship with the
English lodges.
And George Washington never set foot in a
British lodge after that.
He remained a Freemasonry.
He never renounced Freemasonry.
He corresponded with masons.
He loved Freemasonry because of its democracy and
because of its force in bringing our nation
into power.
But he was also made aware of the
infiltration of American Freemasonry by the European Illuminati.
And just before his death, he warned the
Americans to get rid of the lodges because
of this cancer of the Illuminati.
He loved the lodges, but he knew that
the Illuminati was Luciferian and that it was
nothing but evil.
So he recommended the closure of the lodges
because of that.
Okay.
Now, as far as Thomas Jefferson is concerned,
Doug, Thomas Jefferson was certainly a deist.
He was never a Christian.
John, Jefferson, do we actually know for certain
he was a member of the Masonic Lodge?
Thomas Jefferson is claimed by Freemasonry.
In Washington, D.C., he is shown in
one of the buildings there with his Masonic
apron on.
I've not found any documentation where he was
a Mason.
However, he was a member of the Columbian
Illuminati Lodge.
And John Adams accused Thomas Jefferson of furthering
the work of the Illuminati in the United
States.
And, of course, for a time there was
a great feud between Jefferson and Adams, and
eventually they sort of made up as they
got to be older, didn't they?
Yes.
I think they both died on July 4th,
and they were trying to one outlast the
other in that.
Well, of course, I think as Adams was
dying, the story is told, he said, How
is Thomas Jefferson?
Is he still alive?
And they said, Yes.
And he said, Then the Republic lives on.
And I think, Doug, you have to understand
that Jefferson was a brilliant man.
I mean, we owe him a great deal
for his Declaration of Independence.
But what he had done was crystallized in
the Declaration the writings of a number of
Christian authors.
Because, you see, all the literature on freedom
up to that time, most of it came
from Christian writers.
And whether it be the writings of Samuel
Rutherford, who had written Lex Rex, The Law
is King, where he said that all men
were created equal, or whether he was quoting
Blackstone and John Locke, these ideas of nature's
God and nature's law.
All of the ideas that he put forward
in the Declaration had come from Christian writers,
because it was the Christian writers at that
time who were talking about the fact that
since we were all created in sin, why
should the king who was created in sin
be able to rule the rest of us?
God had given us freedom, and we were
entitled to freedom.
And that was the basic thrust of the
Declaration.
We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal and endowed
by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, among
which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness.
But Thomas Jefferson could never accept the divinity
of Jesus Christ.
He could accept his ministry, and he could
accept that he had a wonderful philosophy of
love of your fellow men, and not striking
back in anger, but after all, the foundation
of Christianity is the divinity of Jesus Christ,
not the fact that he had a good
philosophy.
So this was one of Thomas Jefferson's major
defects, and the difference between he and Washington
as far as slavery.
Jefferson was against slavery, but upon his death
he released, I don't know, four or eight
of his slaves.
George Washington not only released all of his
slaves, but endowed their possibility of getting an
education, so they could live not simply as
laborers, but as free men in a free
society.
Washington was much more of a moralist than
Thomas Jefferson was.
So that's all I can really tell you,
Doug.
All right, thanks.
Okay, fine, thank you.
And our telephone number is 464-8295 or
1-888-24-Liberty.
Give us a call if you have a
question or comment, because I think that John
Daniels certainly knows more about this subject than
just about anyone else in the country.
Now, one of the things, of course, which
has always been used to throw people off
the track, to try to confuse them about
what this world movement is, is the Protocols
of the Learned Elders of Zion.
And, of course, this then is used by
racists and bigots to push anti-Semitism.
But what is the true origin of the
Protocols?
Because this is seminal to understanding what's going
on today in this move towards world government.
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
is spelled not with a Z but with
an S.
It is a French publication.
It was stolen from a French lodge in
1884, and it was sold.
In fact, it was stolen by a Mason,
and it was sold and carried to Russia.
And what you're suggesting, then, this is the
Masonic plan rather than...
Right, it's Masonic.
It is the Priory.
It's the group of the Priory.
In fact, it was stolen from a Priory
of Zion Lodge.
That's I-O-N.
And, of course, this then is this whole
movement that you've been discussing, the so-called
Rosicrucian.
Right.
Masonry, right?
Yes, it has nothing to do with Zionism,
Z-I-O-N, which is what is
in Israel today, the political movement of Zionism,
which actually started in Russia in 1860 and
had their first Zionist meeting in 1897.
But the Priory of Zion, then, was carried
into Russia by the O-T-O Lodge,
the Ordo Templar Orientis Lodge, and it was
used as an anti-Jewish document
to start the pogroms, to accuse the Jews
of writing this.
And they had nothing to do with it.
And, of course, it was really, I've always
felt, and I'd like to know your opinion,
that what it really was was sort of
a smoke screen behind which this whole world
occult movement could continue to grow, because people
would begin to see this world revolutionary movement
and say, somebody's got to be behind it,
and what better group to blame than Jews,
so that the real occultic foundation of the
world revolutionary movement would not be recognized, and
also because the occultists always hate the Jews.
Right.
And as you look at the real power
behind these secret societies, it's Satan.
And Satan does not want God's people here
on Earth, and that is the Christians and
the Jews.
And so what he does is he weaves
this around so that the world, then, is
against Christianity and against Judaism.
And, of course, that was really the main
reason behind Hitler's anti-Semitism, was because of
his occult connections, and although they pushed the
protocols in Hitler's Germany, it was really the
occultism of the Nazi movement that was responsible
for the anti-Semitism, not the protocols as
such.
But they had to circulate that among the
people to justify what they were doing.
Absolutely.
All of these things are so vitally important
that people begin to understand.
Now, what influence does Masonry have in the
media in the United States today?
Total control.
I say total control.
Fox News is so young, I can't make
any connection.
But ABC, CBS, and NBC are all Masonic
-controlled, and their symbol is the all-seeing
eye.
Well, that's, of course, CBS is the symbol
of the all-seeing eye.
It's obvious.
NBC, the peacock, you've got the all-seeing
eye all over the peacock feathers.
Not in their symbol, but that's your analogy.
And then you have the sun disk on
ABC, which is a stylized all-seeing eye.
Now, of course, let's see.
These are really controlled by Time Warner, by
Disney, and Westinghouse.
No, I guess Time Warner controls CNN.
GE, Disney, and General Electric control the other
three.
Yeah, that's today.
But you go all the way back to
their roots, and it was Masonic-controlled.
Now, document this in my book.
I have a whole chapter on the Masonic
control of the media.
But, of course, what's the influence of the
Masonic movement within Westinghouse, Disney, and General Electric
today?
Do you have any ties on that?
Once you get that far removed, you don't
have to have those particular organizations directly tied
to Freemasonry.
Just like the Council on Foreign Relations, the
Trilateral Commission, you can't make a direct connection
to it.
But the people that are in control of
it know exactly what their duty is in
this.
And that is to control or manipulate or
create public opinion.
All right.
And, of course, that's the great tragedy we
have today.
I think there are about 200 members of
the Council on Foreign Relations working within the
media.
And according to Richard Harwood in his classical
article entitled Ruling Class Journalists, which was printed
in the Washington Post on the 30th of
October, 1993, he said, this is the closest
thing we have to a ruling establishment.
Those people working within the media don't necessarily
report the news.
They make it happen.
And then he went on to quote John
Vanden Heuvel, something of the sort, stating that
basically by focusing public opinion on certain issues,
they can force a government to accede to
their demands.
And that's really what it's all about.
Yeah, this is what the polls are for.
Sure.
Manipulate.
Right.
And we're constantly being manipulated by a media
which is largely controlled by people who do
have an agenda.
And you try to get articles in that
really tell a true story, sometimes they'll come
under tremendous, tremendous pressure or they'll simply spike
the stories.
Now, basically, what about the Luciferian connection?
Do you think that the average individual who's
involved with these lodges and movements really understands
that this is truly Luciferian and is part
of the devil's plan to take over the
world?
No, they don't know that.
They're kept ignorant.
In fact, Albert Pike even says that in
his Luciferian book, Morals and Dogma.
He says the blue degrees and the blue
degrees are the first three degrees.
The blue degrees are but the outer court
or portico of the temple.
Part of the symbols are displayed there to
the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by
false interpretations.
It is not intended that he shall understand
them, but it is intended that he shall
imagine he understands them and whosoever attempts to
undeceive them will labor in vain.
So it's a deception.
The first degree, they put a hoodwink, a
black hood over their head.
Hoodwink.
You look it up in the dictionary and
it's a deception.
And so if they look at the symbols,
they are deceived from the very first degree
on.
And by degree, they're given a little more
light, a little more light.
And by degree, it's just like putting a
frog in hot water.
It's going to jump out.
But if you put it in cold water
and then you put it on the oven
and turn up the heat, the frog will
just lay there and boil because he doesn't
feel it.
And that's what's happening to Freemasons.
By degree, they are led into Luciferianism, anti
-Christian doctrine.
And of course what they learn eventually is
the source of the light who they are
required to search for in the first and
second and third degrees.
And as they go along and they're always
searching for the light and not until they
get to a certain point and begin to
study, do they begin to understand the true
source of that light, who is the angel
of light, Lucifer.
Right.
And Albert Pike even in Morals and Dogmen.
And every third degree Mason is given his
book, Morals and Dogmen.
Here's what he writes about Lucifer in this
book.
He says, The apocalypse is, to those who
receive the 19th degree, the apotheosis of that
sublime faith which aspires to God alone and
despises all the prompts and works of Lucifer.
Lucifer, the light bearer.
Strange and mysterious name to give to the
spirit of darkness.
Lucifer, the sun of the morning.
Is it he who bears the light and
with its splendors, intolerable, blind, feeble, sensuous, and
selfish souls?
Doubt it not.
And that's page 321 of Morals and Dogma.
And we've got Rory on the line.
Hi, Rory.
Hi, Dr. Stan.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fine.
How are you?
Great.
Hey, just a quick side note to the
people in the media, the media elite that
are Masons.
I had run across an article.
I didn't read it, but I was waiting
to get my hair cut.
And it was Fortune Magazine, I believe.
And it was recent, this past year, 98.
Anyway, there was a whole article on Brian
Williams, who is, I believe, the heir apparent
of Broca?
I don't know.
I forget which network he's with.
I think it's ABC.
Anyway, the cover picture or the initial photograph
of him in the article, he's wearing a
suit and he's got his arms crossed.
And I believe his right cuff link is
very apparent.
It's pretty easily the spot.
And right on that cuff link is the
five-point star.
And I couldn't make out the insignia on
the star, but it's pretty obvious as to
what it is.
And I just thought that was interesting to
see that symbolism displayed so prominently by him
in a prominent photograph.
I think there's just so many things out
there, you know, that people should begin to
pick up on.
When you talked about that, I thought there
was going to be the triangle with the
all-seeing eye in it.
No, it was the five-pointed star.
I believe it's a tip-off.
I think that's how these guys let each
other know who's who, where.
It is.
Yeltsin tipped off the world that he was
a Mason by wearing cuff links, which was
the square and the compass.
Oh, no kidding.
Yes, I've got that picture.
No wonder he's getting so much money out
of the American taxpayers.
That's all I had, and it's a fascinating
lesson, and God bless you and your guest.
Thanks so much, Roy.
Thank you.
Okay, fine.
Okay, our telephone number, 464-8295 or 1
-888-24-Liberty, if you're out there.
We're just about drawing to the end of
the program, so if you've got a question,
you'd better get it in now.
I was just thinking, as Roy was telling
about that wonderful movie.
I don't know if you ever saw it,
Sean.
It was called The Man Who Would Be
King with Sean Connery, and it was about
these explorers off somewhere at the Himalayas or
Tabata.
And, of course, one of them is wearing
this Masonic symbol.
Of course, this is a book written by
Rudyard Kipling, who himself is a Mason, and
Sean Connery is wearing this triangle with the
all-seeing eye in it.
And when he gets into this place that
they're looking for that supposedly has all this
wonderful treasure, you know, he's originally captured, and
they're thinking about killing him until they see
the Masonic symbol, and then they all fall
down and worship him because he obviously is
the God.
He has the symbol of a God.
And, of course, if any of our listeners
have not seen the movie, go down and
read it at your local blockbuster, The Man
Who Would Be God, and then you'll understand
the symbolism.
If you have the Masonic symbol, of course,
you have the key to becoming God.
And, really, at the time you see it,
if you don't understand where Rudyard Kipling is
coming from, it's just a great movie.
And when you understand the real symbology behind
it, of course, it's the key to so
much of this whole movement towards the establishment
of a one-world government and this belief
that Satan gave to Adam and Eve in
the Garden of Eden.
If you eat of the fruit of the
tree of the knowledge in good and evil,
ye shall be as gods, and ye shall
never die.
And that, of course, is what it's really
all about, man replacing God and bringing the
kingdom of heaven to earth without God.
On the books, Scarlet and the Beast, are
you there?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
What you sell on those in the next
seven days are going to be given by
John Craigle Publishing as a donation to your
ministry.
Well, thank you so very much.
We'll appreciate it.
So, our listeners out there, I hope you're
listening.
I hope you'll want to get Scarlet and
the Beast.
And it's available if you're calling 1-800
-5-HIV-WAR.
It's a very fascinating book because it goes
into the English Freemasonry, how banks, the illegal
drug trade.
I thought that was so fascinating.
Do you want to just briefly touch on
the illegal drug trade?
Because we have so many books written now
that point out that the illegal drug trade,
which we're supposedly fighting so hard, is actually
being fostered by elements within our own government
who are not trying to stop the drugs
from coming in.
They're fighting the war against drugs the way
we fought the war in Vietnam.
They're fighting to lose.
Do you want to pick up on that?
Yes.
The source scripture for that is Revelation 18
-23.
And it says about Mystery Babylon, "...by thy
sorceries were the nations deceived."
And that word, sorceries, it's the only place
that it's used in the Bible, is mind
-bending, it means in the Greek, mind-bending,
pushers of mind-bending potions.
And so this is why Scarlet and the
Beast, Scarlet being English Freemasonry, I document in
Volume 3 that English Freemasonry controls the growing,
manufacturing, and pushing of the worldwide drug traffic.
And of course we know that certainly the
English did that, that's what the opium wars
were all about, not to stop opium but
to force it on the Chinese people.
And of course the drug traffic has been
used for many years to corrupt and destroy
societies and it's certainly doing a fantastic job
of destroying America today.
60% of the world's drug usage, illegal
drug usage, is in the United States.
So there is another opium war.
Right, but the war is against the American
people and the American people don't even understand
that this is being fostered by our own
government.
And if anybody doubts that, they ought to
read that wonderful book, The Secret Life of
Bill Clinton by Ambrose Everett Pritchard, which touches
on how our government is involved in drugs
or Monica Stevenson's book, Kiss the Boy's Goodbye,
or Terry Reid's book Compromised, or Gary Webb's
new book, or Celerino Castillo's Powder Burns.
I mean there's so many, the new book
certainly Defrauding America, but Scott and the Beast
gets into the background behind.
All of these tell you what's happening.
Scott and the Beast tells you why.
And of course it has to do with
this whole world occult movement, which is really
infecting every aspect of our society today.
And the three volumes, I promise you, you'll
never look at the world through the same
eyes again.
Now, of course, you've got, how long did
it take you to write this book, these
three books?
I started research in college in 1970, understood
it by 1972, kept researching, started writing in
1982, and finished writing by 1992.
It went to the editor in 1993, and
the first volume came out in 1994.
I'm sure I saw the advertisements for the
first edition of that, and I was quite
intrigued.
I didn't get it though until just a
couple of years ago.
Now, what about banking?
How does this whole thing tie into international
finance fears?
In the third volume, the subtitle of the
book is English Freemasonry, Banks, and the Illegal
Drug Trade.
The banks, you have to understand that this
movement, the intent of this movement, is to
bring about a one-world government.
To be able to do that, they've got
to control the economy of the world, which
means also the banking.
And because there's not enough revenue in any
nations or all the nations coupled together, there
is not enough revenue to fund this world
revolution, to bring in a one-world government,
they have opted to the drug trade, where
there is no taxation.
And we're talking about now upwards to a
trillion dollars a year income to this occult
movement through the drug trade.
Non-taxable.
And the banks now have been set up
to accept that since 1978.
The banks have been set up in Switzerland
to take all illegal funds for their movement.
And we're talking about not only the drug
movement, but mafia, anything that is illegal.
We're talking about gun running, the whole bit,
is cycled through a bank in Zurich, Switzerland.
And when I wrote my book, it was
about $500 billion a year.
Now it's close to a trillion a year
income that they use.
And I'm sure that they know exactly who
it is.
They just don't want the American people to
know.
John, thank you so much for being with
us again.
I hope from time to time we can
call on you.
I think it's fascinating.
I think our listeners need to know these
facts.
The book is available by calling 1-800
-5-HIV-WAR.
It's entitled Scarlet and the Beast.
It's three volumes.
So it's a lot of heavy reading.
It weighs about five pounds, but it's well
worth it.
John, thank you so much.
God bless you and may He keep you
safe.
Thank you.
And Lord bless you.
And you too.
Bye-bye.
And this is Dr. Stan saying, pray for
our country.
Pray for revival in America.
And certainly pray for Radio Liberty.
For our provision and our protection.
And we'll be back with you tomorrow at
the same time.