Here's what I decided to do.
I've known both Tony, Tony Woods and Luke
Duncan for quite a while here at the
church.
Tony is really gifted in the area of
autoimmune disease, fasting, detox, hormone levels.
He actually was studying to be a doctor
and then decided that wasn't God's direction.
And then Luke has a passion for like
what they call kinesiology.
It's a movement of the body, the study
of the body.
And it's interesting, movement is medicine.
That's what his kind of, he loves that
fact that when you move, like if you
can just even do squats at home, some
push-ups or things, the moving the body,
you're getting it moving.
We weren't designed to be sedentary.
We were actually designed to move and do
things.
And when we're sitting all day, the body's
degrading in that area as well.
So we're gonna open up for Q&A.
You don't have to necessarily say, unless you
want to say, you know, Luke I have
a question for you on this side.
Tony on this side or Shane in the
middle.
They know more than I do on those
specific fields.
And then if I know, you know, have
some input, I'll chime in as well.
But so Stan, go ahead and stand in
line behind Morgan and you can ask the
next question.
But she had a good one that she
asked me yesterday or two days ago and
I wanted her to bring it up first.
So with that, we'll go ahead.
I don't remember if this is the one
that I, that you're thinking of, but could
you guys just speak to the fact that,
you know, I know a lot of people
are like hypoglycemic.
And so when you talk about fasting or
not eating every three hours and your blood
sugar drops, you start to shake, almost pass
out.
What's the cause for that?
Is there a way to fix that?
And Tony, I thought you had a good
analogy on the burners.
We have different systems in place to produce
energy.
And the body has a process of something
called gluconeogenesis, which is producing its own glucose.
And it does that through proteins.
And the body's abundant in proteins.
So the key is, is if you look
at the body, picture a four burner stove,
and you've got three burners that are pretty
much on all the time.
And this is a catabolic state.
So the body's consistently building in a, and
I'm sorry, in an anabolic state.
So it's anabolizing and it's building.
And the main source for that is glucose.
The problem is these other two burners over
here, and this one in the back, never
gets used because we're consistently feeding it glucose
and carbohydrates and it breaks it down.
So these other two burners, once you shut
this one off, and someone who's hypoglycemic, they
have to ease into it because of the
fact that their body's not used to that
process.
So they have to graduate, just gradually move
into it.
And then they can start those burners up
and get them going.
But the key is just doing it gradually
so they don't get such a abrupt shaking
and you know, the dizziness and stuff like
that, or cold sweats.
So that's the best way to do it,
is just kind of lower your carbohydrate intake,
increase your fats, increase your proteins, and then
move into it.
And then, and I actually was diagnosed with
that, and I could never fast.
I could never, I remember at the gym,
I used to see it every other week,
just fall off their machine.
Boom, boom, boom.
Low blood sugar.
A lot of it is because, like Tony
said, we're eating just too much carbohydrates, we're
eating too much.
So when you don't have that immediate sugar
rush, your body starts to crave it, and
it needs it.
And that's why I was told I can
never fast.
But as you clean up the diet, the
body adjusts in this area.
So the blood sugar levels adjust, and you're
not, you know, going three hours.
I used to get shaky, and I feel
like I'm gonna pass out.
And then six hours, and it turned into
a day.
And you know, so the body starts to
change.
That's why he said, you know, you got
to be careful.
You don't just go cold turkey.
If you got a, what I tell people,
if you got a sugar addiction, you cut
half, and then half, and then half, and
then half, and half.
Coffee, three cups a day, go to go
to two, go to one half, go to
one, go to half.
And you avoid a lot of the withdrawals,
and the body just, just, because we weren't
designed to consume all this stuff.
And so we have an addiction problem on
our hands.
It's what's happening to you.
So go into it slowly, and your body,
as you feed it, naturally, it can begin
to process the sugars better, not go through
those ups and downs, and highs and lows.
Next question.
Dr. Rita.
I'm insulin resistant.
I was just diagnosed that, and I really
don't know what to do about that.
And also, I had done the master cleanse,
you know what that is?
The lemonade and maple syrup?
It's maple syrup, cayenne pepper, lemons, cayenne pepper,
and water.
And then I got really lightheaded, and I,
I have to use my brain at work
a lot, and I wasn't able to function.
How do those go hand in hand, or
do they?
Well, I'll say briefly, and then maybe Luke
and Tony.
The, the master cleanse and all these different
things, the concept is the maple syrup keeps
your blood sugar levels somewhat elevated, and the,
the lemon and the cayenne is a very
good detoxing agent, and you're not having anything
else to eat.
So the fasting aspect of it.
So that's why you probably felt lightheaded, because
you, did you just go immediately?
Well, you don't have to answer, but some
people just start that fast right away, without
kind of, yeah, without easing into it.
So that's why, that's why many of us
don't fast.
That's why we can't complete a fast, because
we go from a very toxic environment, and
then we try to just stop it all.
Have a heroin, it's like a heroin addict
coming off, or crystal myth, or cocaine, is
there's no difference.
There's no difference.
Actually, sugar runs along the same biochemical ramps
in your mind, or your brain, as the
same as opiates, or some of the narcotics,
heroin, LSD, and different things.
It's the same biochemical pathway.
So coming off is pretty, pretty drastic.
But on the insulin resistant, Tony might know
more, Luke even more on, on, I know
moving.
Are you moving a lot?
You know?
Well, I'm, I'm sitting a lot at work,
and it's, it's very difficult for me to
sit as much as I do.
I, you know, I'll do stretches, because I'm
constantly writing reports.
Okay.
And with the insulin resistance, like the watermelon
out there, that's like eating a big cheeseburger.
Right.
For me, I think.
I, I don't know what the research says
about that, but I know when I eat
watermelon, or any fruit, except for maybe strawberries,
or berries, it's, there's a lot of carbohydrates
for my body.
I don't know how my body processes it,
and, and it, it's like toxic for me.
Right, right.
So, and I don't understand all of this,
so.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's Luke.
Yeah.
There's a couple of things.
Number one, the human metabolism thrives on consistency.
So I'll say, just as a general statement
here, too, that if you find a book,
and it's from a best-selling author, and
it says, do this, stay away from it,
generally speaking, because it's usually a fad, and
it's trying to sell money, and things like
that.
The things that work, with regards to physical
change, consistently and predictably, are not marketable.
You eat a little bit less, or you
move more to the effect that you are
burning off more energy than you would be
consuming on a daily basis, so that, at
the end of the day, there's a net
decrease in the amount of energy that you're
getting, and that energy is represented through calories.
With respect to insulin resistance, specifically, for those
of you who don't know what that is,
it's basically a precondition to diabetes.
If you hear somebody say, I'm pre-diabetic,
that means you're insulin resistant.
Insulin resistance is very prevalent in the United
States.
Any of the countries that are fighting obesity,
insulin resistance is a big problem, and usually
what happens is, you have too much free
fatty acids in the bloodstream, and basically what
they do is, they gunk up.
If you think of, like, the analogy I've
heard before, is if you have a lock,
you try to put a key in it.
Can I stop you for a second?
Free fatty acid.
Okay.
Okay, I'm mostly vegetarian.
Right.
Where's that coming from?
It's coming from your subcutaneous fat.
You could not eat any fat, and your
body would still make fat.
Okay.
So, because your body will break those foods
down, and then it will build in other
nutrients.
So, even people that are absolutely lean, shredded
on steroids and stuff, still probably have 5
,000 calories of fat on their body.
Your body's gonna make it, because if you
didn't have it, you would die.
It's just a necessary prerequisite to being human.
You can have more or less, but at
the end of the day, you're gonna have
some fat on your body.
So, because of that, free fatty acids in
your bloodstream, if you have too much of
them, what happens is, they'll gunk up your
insulin receptor sites on your cells.
And so, if you imagine the key in
the lock analogy, stick a bunch of bubble
gum in that lock, and then try to
open the door.
It's gonna go, and the key's not gonna
work anymore.
So, what happens is, your body's response to
that is, we have to drive more insulin
into there to try to bust through all
the gunk that's in your insulin receptor sites.
And so, that is a self-defeating process,
where the body continually produces more and more
insulin, to the point where now you're diabetic.
Shane was talking about type 2 diabetes during
his presentation.
That's effectively what it is.
So, there's two things you can do to
mitigate that.
Number one, reduce your energy intake.
A lot of the things that we're gonna
talk about up here, the solution for that
comes underneath reducing your energy intake.
That doesn't mean starve yourself, but it does
mean put yourself in an overall deficit.
And when I say overall, I mean think
of weeks, or months, or even years.
It doesn't have to be every single day
you're in a deficit, but over the long
term, you are in a deficit, because that's
gonna move things around in your body, and
it's gonna move nutrients around.
The other thing, too, is to move more.
We're a highly sedentary society, and when we
do this all the time, we shut off
pathways with respect to something called nutrient partitioning.
Nutrient partitioning refers to the process of what
your food gets turned into when you eat
it.
So, if you eat X amount of food,
your body's gonna turn it into either future
muscle synthesizing protein, it'll store it away as
energy, either local glycogen storage in the muscle,
or in the liver, or it's gonna turn
it into body fat.
People that are sedentary have very poor nutrient
partitioning abilities, because the pathways are not unlocked
with respect to things like capillary density, and
things like that.
So, those nutrients don't get moved around, they
stay in the bloodstream, they don't get used,
they cause insulin overproduction, they get stored away
as body fat.
So, by moving more, you will unlock nutrient
partitioning pathways to break your food down in
a healthier, more sustainable way, and get more
out of it.
Now, that sounds like a lot of big
words and everything at the end of the
day.
What does that look like?
Go for a mile walk.
If you've never walked before, go walk a
mile.
A lot of people think that with respect
to exercise or movement and stuff, I gotta
be Michael Jordan yesterday.
No, you don't.
If you've never walked before, walking is enough
for you.
If you've never run before, don't start running.
You're gonna screw your knees up, and you're
gonna screw your back up, because you don't
know how to do it properly.
And if you're like a lot of people
in this country, you probably have too much
weight on your body, and you're gonna beat
your joints up.
Start with walking.
All walking's too easy.
Have you done it?
If you're not doing it, it's not too
easy.
And if it is too easy, walk uphill.
You know, if you look at a lot
of those guys that are on the covers
of magazines, and I will say watch out
for idolatry when you're doing all this, but
the way that all those guys on the
magazines, even though they're taking steroids and all
this stuff, the way they get to look
like that, you know what kind of cardio
they do?
They put a treadmill on a 5%
incline, they walk on it for 40 minutes.
They don't run, they don't do sprints, they
don't do anything like that.
They walk on that thing for 40 minutes,
because those guys are too big.
They're too big to be like running out
like Ben Johnson, or Carl Lewis, or doing
any kind of stuff like that.
They're too big.
So, walking can absolutely produce results when it
comes under the right context.
And Rita, you're probably looking for practical, you
know, practical example, like on the watermelon and
all that.
The reason is, too, it's high glycemic.
Those types of foods will spike up blood
sugar.
So, for a season, you might need to
avoid those types of foods.
Can you work on your reports with your
phone, with voice texting, and then put it
together later?
Do you have to be sitting all the
time?
Another thing is, I've got a desk I
can show you that you can prop up,
and you can actually stand as you're working,
do core stabilization training, burn calories while you're
standing, calf raises, whatever, you can with a
stand-up desk.
But what he's talking about is a deficit.
You're probably like, okay, how do I create
a deficit?
Well, if you grab the book, What Works
When Diets Don't, it's got a whole chart.
You need to find out how many calories
you're using a day, if you're using only
1,400, 1,500 calories a day, and
you're consuming 1,800, the bottom line is
you've got too much energy going in.
So, you will have to create a deficit
in that area.
So, creating a deficit, moving more, eating the
right types of foods, and slowly working into
it will probably be the best solution for
now.
I know I have a lot of excuses
because of my ankle.
I had a surgery, and I've had a
lot of problems the past four years.
But I know I can exercise other ways
without using my feet.
I just need to, you know, fight that,
oh, you can't, you can't, you can't.
Yeah.
There's leather.
I'm a huge fan of kettlebells.
Kettlebells are the best cardio you'll ever get,
and you don't move an inch.
So, you know, it's low impact and things.
So, there's absolutely other ways to do it.
There's rowing machines, cycling, things like that.
Just get creative.
And at the end of the day, too,
exercise is really just activity.
So, whatever you like doing, and this is
for anybody in the audience, exercise doesn't mean
I'm on the treadmill or I'm on the
bike.
If you like basketball, go play basketball.
Is it cleaning the house?
Yes.
I do a lot of that.
Anything can become intense exercise.
Do it for time.
Say, okay, it took me 20 minutes to
clean the house.
I'm going to go for 15 this time.
You will move faster, and just make it
a challenge.
Yeah, do so.
Any more questions?
You guys can go behind her.
People are asking me out in the lobby.
Now's your chance.
There we go.
Okay.
I have two questions, and I want to
ask the first one now because I don't
want to forget.
What was that stuff in the bowl back
there that looked like a carrot, but it
was purple on the outside and yellow on
the inside?
You have to ask my daughter.
That was good.
Okay.
The carrots actually began purple.
Oh, yeah, carrots began purple.
The package, yeah.
Trader Joe's?
Okay, well, I'm going to get that.
Okay, that wasn't my real question.
Okay.
For the last couple of years, and it's
just started last year, I got this eczema
-like thing on my arm, and it took
maybe, I don't know, a month, two months
to go away, and I put lotion on
it and everything, and I was thinking, well,
maybe it was something I ate because I've
never had it before, but I was going
through this whole sinus infection thing.
I ended up having to have surgery on
my sinuses.
Nothing would work.
They did the antibiotics, the steroids, the everything,
and before I had all that stuff, I
started developing the eczema.
So I was wondering, is the sinus stuff
and the eczema, because I just broke out
with it again a few weeks ago, and
it's starting to heal, is that diet-related?
I'll let Tony on this one, but absolutely,
in my opinion.
There's something called dysbiosis, and it has to
do with your gut.
A lot of skin conditions and allergies and
chronic infections has to do with the war
in our gut.
We have good bacteria in our gut, and
we have bad bacteria in our gut, and
certain foods and nutrients will feed the bad,
and what happens is when your body's under
stress, it needs more nutrients.
It needs more clean foods, and so when
you said you were on antibiotics, that could
very easily disturb that balance, and so I
know for myself and for my children and
other people, we've corrected that with fixing our
guts.
So one thing I want to point out
is to mention to you is something called
psyllium husk.
It's very gelatinous, and it's not absorbable, but
what it does is it pulls out all
the gram-negative bacteria as lipopolysaccharides.
It just pulls them all out of the
gut, and it makes it easier on your
immune system to relax.
If you stay on that for a week,
you'll see a lot of improvement in your
skin.
And it's called what?
It's called psyllium husk.
It's P-S-Y-L-I-U-M,
psyllium husk.
Can I get that on Amazon?
You can get it on Amazon, yeah.
Just start off slow because it's very dry,
and it'll swell.
It'll start, it's very gelatinous.
It'll swell up and go to about ten
times its weight with water, and just mix,
you know, a teaspoon into water a day,
and just drink it fast because as it
thickens, it's hard to swallow.
And it's a fiber?
You can get it, it is a fiber.
You can get the whole weedery under Raw
Cleanse.
It comes in a little thing, and you
add it, but it tastes terrible, so you
got to mix it with some orange juice
or something.
It's not that bad.
I'll just do a shot of it, you
know.
Yeah, just shoot it fast and, you know,
chase it down with something, maybe orange juice,
a little bit.
And is that something that would be good
to do every day?
Regularly.
It'll lower cholesterol levels because these gram-negative
bacteria, their actual outer membranes are toxic, and
so what happens is we're actually getting poisoned
from the inside out.
So it's one thing to have a clean
die and eat right, but if you have
a disturbance in that ratio, and they're not
getting, you're not having enough fiber to take
that stuff off, it's, you know.
That, and like Shane said about probiotics, is
eating sauerkraut, different things that are whole and
natural.
I do that.
But not the store, not the conventional type
of stuff.
You know, the homemade stuff is the best
you can do, and it's really easy to
make sauerkraut at home.
There's one in Costco that is, does have
the fermented stuff, and it does have all
the probiotics in it.
And like you say, the reason it, disease
often starts in the gut is because that's
where the food goes, that's where it's broken
down, that's where it's assimilated, that's where the
nutrients are released, that's where the enzymes come
in and break it down.
So that's the battleground.
So you need the proper nutrients to properly
assimilate the food.
And the good bacteria, the bad bacteria, probiotics,
that's what probiotics are.
The reason antibiotics, we don't recommend them very
often, is because they kill everything, including the
good and the bad.
So mainly, I would recommend on not every
cold, every this, and maybe in your case
you did, we've had to do it before,
but we've also killed it through collodial silver,
echinacea, elderberry, natural things too.
But probiotics are natural, good bacteria that actually
go in and they fight, they help, to
help the fight.
So that's why, that's why disease starts in
the gut.
This was the antibiotics.
I mean, I rarely, I took more antibiotics
this last year than I have in my
whole entire life combined.
So I mean, it was, it was a,
it was a good thing up here.
And keep in mind, the skin breakout can
also be a result of toxicity.
The body will release through the skin, through
the nasal, you mentioned the sinuses, that's your
body, a way of releasing toxins too.
So, I mean, I would recommend even fasting
and getting the diet cleaned up and seeing
a lot of, a lot of benefits.
And the psyllium husk stuff.
Yes.
Okay.
Fasting would be huge.
Yeah, fasting would be huge.
Is that Stacey?
It is.
Okay.
I was going to say something about the
psyllium.
We actually feed psyllium to horses and it
picks up the sand in their bellies and
takes it out.
So it's really beneficial.
Yeah.
My question is about, as we get older
and our hormones change, women, we go through
menopause, everything in your body is different.
Makes it hard to lose weight.
It makes, you know, your bone density changes
and what are some things we can do
to help?
Maybe we can each chime in a little
bit.
Start with Tony, Luke, and just make it.
There are some really awesome phytochemicals for that,
that are known to help women.
Like sage.
Sage is really good.
A lady that I know had really bad
hot flashes just all the time and she
started drinking sage tea and it really helped
her.
All the hot flashes went away.
Her hormones started to become balanced.
But a lot of it has to do
with cholesterol too, because cholesterol is the main
metabolite that gets converted into our hormones.
So, you know, if you do a panel
on yourself, just make sure that you have
enough cholesterol.
And if it's 220 or below, that's fine.
If they say it's too high, over 200,
it's really not.
But just, if you've run a good panel,
you can see where the blocks are.
But just a natural thing like sage tea
will really help you if you just take
it daily.
Maybe once in the morning, once at night,
it'll really help.
And then, well, let me go and then
Luke can go to finish.
I would, also everything, I don't know where
your diet's at too, but everything I talked
about, you know, when people are applying that,
even in their 50 and above, they begin
to see dramatic results in their hormone levels,
men's testosterone, their growth hormone levels, the women's
estrogen is controlled by taking care of the
body, moving more, losing the weight, detoxing.
It all works together to put the body
back in a healthy state too.
So I would incorporate that.
I think also just to complement what these
two said, anabolic exercise.
And some of you may, especially if you're
a woman, you're going, oh, you're like, what's
that?
You know, but basically with respect to bone
density in particular, osteoporosis plagues our women, especially
our senior women.
And ladies do your deadlifts.
Like, I'm not kidding, you know, learn to
pick stuff up off the ground in a
healthy way and get strong at it.
If you can pick your body weight up,
I don't care what else happened to you
the rest of your life.
Your skeleton is not going to fall apart
when you're 80, 90 years old.
Well, you know what, Luke?
You made a good point yesterday.
He knows, you know, if you say a
90 year old, 80 year old man, if
he starts doing 10, 15 squats, 20 squats
a day, you know what a squat is,
right?
Just a squat.
And you keep that muscular strength going, you
do those squats at 65, 70, 75, 80,
85.
You can still squat and get up and
you keep that momentum going.
You keep that movement going because your body's
being built.
So that was a good point.
Yeah, a lot of that too is don't
think necessarily in short-term big chunk stuff.
That's the way our society is kind of
wired.
But think really long-term, you know, with
respect to diet, you don't have to hit
your calories every single day.
Think of weekly averages or even monthly averages
or things like that.
With respect to movement, I mean, getting up
and I'm just going to do a few
of these every day.
Fellas, if you don't want hip surgery, get
good at this.
Do 10 of them a day.
When you get up in the morning, you
will be able to get up off the
toilet by yourself when you're 90 years old.
You know, simple things like that.
You don't have to be a Hulk and
you don't have to be a gym idolatrist
or anything like that.
You can do very simple things like that
to promote healthy posture, bone density, retaining muscle
tissue, all those kinds of things with simple
movement strategies every day.
Yeah, okay.
And Diane, you're next?
Oh, do you have another one, Stacey?
I'm sorry.
I do.
Just real quick.
Shopping.
You talk about buying, you know, organic and
grass fed, good meat, whole wheatery, Trader Joe's.
We don't have a lot of options out
here.
Well, I sometimes go to Sprouts or the
Whole Foods in Valencia.
But those two usually have the veggies, the
fruit, the meat, not much raw dairy.
But you can usually find most of them.
And actually, I probably should clarify this.
We keep talking about calories and deficits.
In order to lose weight, I don't care
what diet it is, you have to burn
more than you are consuming.
It's just a mathematical impossibility.
So you have to know, Veronica, Bill, Chris,
whoever you are, how many calories does my
body burn a day?
So that's in my book, What Works When
Diets Don't.
It's all free.
It's got a chart.
And people kind of, you know, they'll say,
well, it's a calorie counting diet.
And I want to clarify, I'm not into
calorie counting as a solution for our problems.
However, you got to know that a banana
has 120 and that big piece of hamburger
has 1100.
You got to know and educate yourself.
If I'm consuming this much energy, I better
burn this much energy and more.
And I'll talk about basal metabolic rate.
You know, Luke and Tony probably burn more
calories sitting here than I do, because it
just, as I get older.
And then activity.
So you can factor in how much energy
you need to start burning.
It actually becomes motivating.
Okay, I'm eating 1500.
I'm going to park over by the gym
at the mall and walk all the way
over to the mall and walk back.
And you start thinking now, energy expenditure, you
start thinking now moving versus how close can
I get to the parking spot?
How close convenient?
How, you know, standing as opposed to sitting,
burn so many more calories.
Because your body, your core stabilization, your core
is holding everything together.
So that's what I meant by calories.
Don't get caught up in it.
But you got to know, you know, am
I consuming more than I'm taking in?
And then Diane, basically the store, Stacy, you
just stay away from the middle.
Just, just, just go around and get the
God given, you know, even organic and not
necessarily good.
I can get organic cheese crackers.
You know, and they've got ingredients list this
long.
So it's organic birthday cake, organic birthday cake.
Okay, and our organic, by the way, to
me just means the way God designed it.
It's not new agey.
It's not some phrase, it's just unaltered, untouched,
like the lowers, some of them are here,
Jake and Craig and Rachel, and we go
to their house and had some goat's milk,
right from the goat.
I mean, talk about, that's how it's supposed
to be, raw goat's milk.
I mean, you know, it's, that's how God
created it.
That's what I mean by organic, untouched.
So, okay.
Sorry, Diane.
Yeah, I just wanted to find out what
your opinion is on soy.
A lot of times there's the, the soy
protein in the bars and stuff, and what
your opinion is on that.
And also, what you think about eating a
raw, organic egg in like your smoothie or
a protein shake?
Because I do that.
I mean, not the egg lately, but, or
even like in a salad dressing and find
out if that's okay, or if that's, because
it's a raw egg.
Right.
But I always do the organic, so.
You might have three different thoughts on soy
and stuff, but why don't we do Tony,
Tony, me, Luke, in order.
So soy was the first genetically modified crop.
And genetically modified, it means that it's been
modified to actually produce the pesticide from the
inside out.
So it's more resistant.
So when these insects, these bugs eat it,
they actually die from poisoning from the inside
out.
So whatever soy you use, just make sure
that it's non-GMO, because it could actually
be very toxic for you.
Secondly, it's very high in phytoestrogens.
So you're going to be putting a lot
of very similar structure estrogen into your body
from that plant.
So just be aware of that.
But in regards to soy, it's actually really
good for you and helpful for you.
Another thing that can go for menopause is
a lot of soy as well because of
the phytoestrogen.
But in regards to the egg thing, I
think it's great.
I think it's great as long as it's,
you know, free range, organic egg, and it
hasn't been out too long, you know, over
a month or something like that.
But yeah.
And my thought is probably similar.
Actually, my friend, he's a PhD, and he
does splice wheat.
And he, with GMO, he tells me that
what Tony's talking about is they'll find pesticide,
what kills the insects, and they'll actually splice
that into the gene of the wheat.
So the wheat grows with that pesticide already
in it.
That's GMO, genetically modified organisms.
Avoid the salmon, avoid the meat, try to,
you know, avoid those.
But like Tony said, soy is God given.
It's a soybean.
The huge craze in soy is what did
some harm because it wasn't organic.
It was genetically modified, and people went crazy.
Soy ice cream, soy milk, soy this, soy
bread, soy tofu in my salad, and they
had too much, which goes back to that
element in it that produces, actually, does it
produce estrogen?
It actually, it more, so your body secretes
more estrogen.
It'll bind at the same receptors.
So they're finding that little, like boys on
high soy had a high, too high levels
of estrogen in their body, but it because
the soy craze, remember soy cheese, everything.
So if you can find soy, organic soy,
unaltered from a soybean, you know, in moderation,
it's fine.
The egg, yeah, you're gonna, the raw, anything
with, you can actually eat fish raw, right?
It's called sushi, you know, and eggs and
things, you can't eat them raw.
There's a risk, obviously, involved, but the raw
that you're talking about, like Tony said, it's
an organic, free range.
The reason they put cage-free means they're
not sticking a little cage.
They're running all around, but if you don't
get organic, the feed they could be consuming
could be GMO corn that the chicken is
consuming.
So you're getting that in the egg still.
So I know it's complicated.
This is all money driven, basically.
So if you can get organic, cage-free,
clean eggs, and you eat it in a
raw state, I wouldn't be opposed to that
because we're, I don't know if you realize
or not, but we eat a lot of
bacteria that's not good all the time.
Your toothbrush is a very bad spot for
it in bathrooms.
So our body, though, is wonderfully and masterfully
made in the digestive system, the gut, where
it starts, is able to kill that bacteria.
So raw isn't really the problem often.
It's the state of the body that's not
able to fight that disease.
So I would recommend that a raw egg
would be fine.
Okay.
Yeah.
One thing to remember with respect to, in
particular, soy, wheat, dairy, and corn, at least
in the Western world, is those are all
commercial foods or crops.
And so a lot of what they're mass
produced, and when they're mass produced, they're produced
in ways that are cheap, not necessarily good.
So it's not necessarily, a lot of people
make blanket statements about soy, wheat, dairy, or
corn.
It's not necessarily that soy, wheat, dairy, or
corn in and of itself is bad, but
it may be that the strain from which
it's coming from is bad.
Over here, very cheap versions of that food
that are heavily laden with drugs or pesticides
or things like that.
And the other thing too, is because they're
mass produced, companies, after they get rid of
the main food, they have a lot of
industrial waste left over.
So all these high fructose corn syrups, if
you're going to get a whey protein powder
or a soy protein powder, for example, be
very careful when you pick it because if
you ever wonder, well, how can they produce
so much of this stuff?
It seems like every company and their mother
is producing a version of those kinds of
products these days because they're industrial waste products.
There are companies that they literally have, we
have all this left over after we made
milk or tofu or things like this, and
we'd sell it off to somebody for pennies
on the dollar and they go make a
protein powder out of it and they sell
it to you telling you it's good for
you and all this stuff.
And it's just cheap industrial waste.
You don't, you don't need it.
It's somebody else's trash.
Just let it go, put it back in
the ground and use it for fertilizer or
something like that.
So with soy, wheat, dairy, corn, things like
that, get it non-GMO, get it organic.
And because a lot of the things that
a lot of the criticisms that are being
leveled at commercial soy can also be leveled
at commercial dairy, commercial wheat, commercial corn, all
of that stuff as far as estrogen content
and how it screws up your hormones and
things like that.
And the other thing too, is that when
you get it in real food, you don't
get it in hyper concentrations like you do
with industrial waste products.
And so when you get it in a
package where it's a part of carbs, fats,
proteins, other vitamins and minerals and water, now
it's diluted in amongst the other nutrients and
it's not hyper concentrated anymore.
And a lot of the studies that show
that these particular foods cause cancer or things
like that, usually it's done on ex isolate,
you know, or things like that.
So it's industrial, industrial waste leftovers that are
hyper concentrated.
So unless you have a particular aversion to
some kind of food, that's just kind of
the general principle to remember.
Okay.
So in general, you would, if you see
something, you see a protein bar and the
first ingredient is soy protein isolate, would that
be a thumbs up?
I tend to stay away from soy protein
isolate just because it's an isolate.
I would do the same thing for whey.
I don't have dairy in my diet, but
if I did, I would stay away from
whey isolate.
Anything that's isolate or concentrate or things like
that, it's hyper concentrated industrial waste.
That's almost a dead giveaway anytime you see
stuff like that.
So stay with the full version of it.
Have tofu in your salad.
It's not a big deal.
Or have, or have, you know, whole versions
of, I guess the lights didn't like, the
lights didn't like having tofu in their salad.
Anyway, but just look for, look for fuller
expressions of food and not isolated nutrients would
be the takeaway.
Yeah.
Basically, it's pretty limited.
I've got some good green bars that you
might, might want to look at just the
box that they came in, but you've got
to be a smart consumer.
I love bars because they're convenient, but I'm
a label reader.
A lot of hidden sugar, a lot of
stuff that's just not good.
Right, right.
Great.
Thank you.
Okay.
If you're in a deficit, one thing too,
if you're in a deficit, you can get
away with more stuff like that because your
body's going to burn through it anyway.
That's not licensed to have that stuff.
But if you want to be a little
bit more of a trash compactor with stuff
like that, if you're in an overall deficit
long-term, you'll burn through it anyway, so
it's less damaging.
In a nutshell, if he had three Krispy
Kreme donuts this morning, it's not going to
affect him the way it might affect somebody
who has, you know, more unhealthy.
Yeah.
I might be in the bathroom.
Okay, go ahead.
Hi.
A little history.
I've been struggling with suffering with diabetes for
about 16 years, and about three years ago,
I just got energized to just start eating
right and working out, and I did it
with a group of my friends, and I
mean, I was going hard, and I was
lifting weights, I was running, I was everything,
but I noticed that they were losing weight,
and I wasn't, and I lost probably about
maybe, I did lose 40 pounds, but I
just stayed there, and I was working out
almost every day, you know, and my insulin
levels dropped.
They became normal, but I still was taking
the insulin, but I wasn't losing any weight,
so I got discouraged, and I did that
for two years.
Is it type 1 or type 2?
Type 2.
Type 2, okay.
And so then, I got discouraged, and I
stopped working out for a year.
I'm in this year mark now, today, and
I've gained the weight back, and I was
like, okay, Lord, you told me you were
going to heal me of diabetes.
Tell me what I need to do, and
I've tried everything.
I do have a sugar tooth, a sweet
tooth, but when I was diagnosed with diabetes,
I was fit.
I was healthy, you know, and they said
it could have been brought on by stress,
and I was eating.
I was a, I ate healthy as well,
so anyway, now I'm on this thing where
I'm going to start working out.
It brought me here.
My friend invited me, because I've been on
the internet researching things, learning about the olive
leaf extract, learning about the, what you just
said about oregano oil, and also, I'm right
now, 35% food grade peroxide.
I've been taking that, and taking one drop
with a 8 ounce thing of water in
the morning, and then I take it at
night before I go to bed, and then
I increase it.
You're supposed to do it every, for 24
days, and you add a drop each day.
Some people do it three times a day.
I do it twice a day.
I've noticed that my sugar levels have dropped,
because I had really just got discouraged, where
I just stopped taking my medicine, stopped doing
anything.
Well, anyway, God was like, that's not gonna
work, because I got really sick, and God,
he was telling me, he was like, no,
you can't just cold turkey, quick taking insulin.
You have to like, take it, get off
of it slowly.
Taper, yeah.
Yeah, so when he told me that, I
got back on it, about two weeks ago,
and I started taking the food grade peroxide.
I noticed I have a lot of energy.
My insulin level, my sugar levels have dropped
tremendously.
It went from 400, now I wake up
with 129, you know, and, and I noticed
that, you know, that I'm having, like, hunger
pains.
I didn't have hunger pains before, when I
took it, and now I wake up hungry,
and I know if I eat something that's
not healthy, I get sick.
Right, right.
Because, because I'm taking this, so I wanted
to know your opinion on the peroxide, the
35 food grade.
Is it like hydrogen peroxide?
Hydrogen peroxide, 35 food grade, okay.
I'll let Tony.
Well, I ordered it online, and you have
to dilute it with water.
You can't take it, so you, you dilute
it to make it 3%.
Okay, so you want to kind of get
some motivation to go back in the right
direction, which you are.
Yeah.
And, and the thoughts on that, I'll let,
let me just say this before I forget.
Don't get discouraged when your body stops losing
weight.
It's called a plateau.
It's your body's adapting to what you're doing,
and it's actually God given, because it starts
to adapt.
Oh, Shane's only taking 1,200 calories nowadays.
I'm going to decrease his basal metabolic rate
in order to accommodate his lower caloric intake.
So, your body's actually designed by God to
go into a plateau, to adjust.
You just need to break through that plateau,
and if you guys get the free copies,
I don't mean to keep promoting a book,
but grab it, because it talks about breaking
plateaus.
Like Luke said, if you're walking, you add
that 10% element of it.
Now, your body's adjusting to a newer workload.
It's not used to the type of, so
you just need to break out of that
plateau, and actually fasting is the best way
to break out of a plateau, because your
body goes, uh-oh, I now got to
go into fat reserves as fuel, and things
start to change, and the prox, the, the
hydrogen peroxide, you know, apple cider vinegar, the
oil of oregano, the master cleanse.
We all have to remember that there isn't
a magic bullet to take something.
These things can be supplements, but nothing will
do better than getting on a, on a,
on a good God-given diet, even, even
what they call intermittent fasting.
If you can't do days, most people can,
can work up to 24 hour or 16
hour, where it's called intermittent fasting, where you,
you, you shock your body into stopping the
caloric intake, and that can help a lot
of those things, but on the, on the
hydrogen peroxide, I'll let, I'll see if Tony
knows, because I, I, I don't think that's,
I wouldn't recommend that approach.
Well, because I've done the research on some
things, and I've noticed that some of the
people that they've given testimony, they said that
it's cured, um, um, it's cured, uh, cancer,
because the body cannot, diseases cannot live in
an oxygenated body.
Also, um, the test, testimony on, um, curing,
um, herpes and HIV and other things, you
know, and I start taking it because of
the diabetes, and when I've noticed that my
sugar levels have dropped tremendously, you know, and
I've had, I have a lot of energy
now, you know, and so.
Yeah, if it's working for you, and it's
natural dilute in water, you know, but I
wouldn't, I wouldn't recommend it as the, the
base, as the, yeah, as the main source.
Any thoughts on that?
Hydrogen peroxide is highly oxidative, and our white
blood cells actually produce it to kill infections,
so they'll surround them and engulf them in
hydrogen peroxide to just emulsify them, but taking
it internally, it reacts with an enzyme called
catalase, and catalase is one of our main
antioxidants above glutathione, and so when you're consistently
flooding your body with hydrogen peroxide, it's gonna
oxidize with that catalase, just like if you
have a wound, and you put hydrogen peroxide
on it, you know, it bubbles and fizzes,
it's reacting with the enzyme catalase in the
blood, and so it's basically breaking down that
enzyme, and you need that enzyme because it's
crucial, it's one of God's given antioxidants that
the body produces naturally, so if you keep
flooding your system for it, you're actually gonna
tip the scales to where you're gonna create
this imbalance to where it's a highly oxidative
state, so it could actually start to hurt
you.
Yeah, it'll kill cancer, it'll go after those
different things, but you're flooding the system with
it, but at the same time, it's not
gonna be balanced for you, so for type
2 diabetes, I wouldn't use that as your
source to getting better, I would have your
doctor measure your adiponectin levels, because usually when
the body plateaus, the adiponectin level drops, and
when that level drops, the metabolic rate slows
down, so it's almost like a t3 hormone,
but when adiponectin drops, it actually comes more
from the gut, so there's different things you
can do to change that from the inside
out without putting a highly oxidative chemical in
your body.
So what's the difference between the leaf extract,
the olive oil leaf extract, and the, because
they said they react the same way.
Well, olive leaf extract is a God-given
phytochemical, so it reacts differently in the fact
that the body has to produce it, you
know what I mean, it has to produce
out of that chemical what it needs, so
the phytochemical will go in and do what
it does, but it's actually an antioxidant, not
a pro-oxidant, so it's actually working to
help build your body up versus break it
down.
So I mean, but like you said, if
it's working for you, and you're doing research,
and you feel good about it, you're praying,
you know, continue the drops now and then,
but the overall, the overall, everything I just
talked about basically, incorporate those things to really
go out the diabetes and get back on
track, don't let the plateau knock you off
course.
Okay, thank you.
If I could speak to just the exercise
portion a little bit, use your question as
a little bit of a segue maybe to
some concerns that people have privately, but a
lot of people, they go in and they
get really enthusiastic about training, I'm doing six,
seven days a week, you might be doing
too much.
Most people don't need to do, again, it
depends if you're, if you're going to a
gym, if you're going to a facility, or
if you're a runner, or cyclist, or whatever,
and your, your, your training is based on
say 45 minutes to an hour at any
given time, you probably don't need to do
more than three days a week.
Professional athletes that are doing six days a
week, twice a day, and stuff like that,
are usually on some sort of illegal recovery
mechanisms, and so that gets pushed down to
us, we just got to train like Rocky,
and push through all the time, and stuff
like that, and your body grows, and it
adapts when you're at rest.
You break your body down during training, and
then you rest and recover, so to get
the most out of your, out of your
efforts with respect to physical exercise, don't be
emotionally led when you're doing any kind of
physical activity.
Fat loss, and if I may real quick,
Shane was talking about weight loss plateaus, don't
focus on weight, focus on body fat, because
you may have lost five pounds of body
fat, but now, because you've been in a
deficit for a while, your body's storing 10
pounds of water, so you go out and
you have a big bowl of rice, or
something like that, and your body's like, hey,
there's food coming, and you pee all the
water out, and it's like, I just lost
20 pounds overnight, and it's not, that's more
complex than that, so your body gets a
little strung out when there's food not coming
in, and stuff, so don't focus just on
weight, focus on the quality of that weight,
but with respect to, I say that just
to say that, that fat loss is a
numbers game, body composition is a numbers game,
too.
For example, if the most of my training
these days is based around one exercise with
a given variant, I don't worry about the
quantity of different exercises, I worry about the
quantity that I'm putting out with one exercise,
so if I had all the men in
this room, say, if they came to me
and they said, I want to get stronger,
I want to be more muscular, I want
to be healthy, I want to get, raise
my testosterone, or something, okay, what's your deadlift?
My deadlift is 95 pounds, or something like
that, okay, I'm gonna take your deadlift, and
we're gonna train it a couple times a
week, and we're gonna get it up to
405, you're gonna be more muscular, you're gonna
be stronger, you're gonna be better posture, because
that's the type of the exercise that a
deadlift is, and you're gonna be, you're gonna
be efficient in your efforts in the gym,
so you don't need to go in there
and be emotionally, I think I need to
do arms today, I think I need to
do legs today, I think I need to
do shoulders today, you have objectivity in your
training, so that way it's not about just
what's up here, so that way when the
days come when it's like, I don't feel
like it, if you know and you just
hit a number that day, I pick up
X amount of weight this day, I've made
progress, progress drives physical change, you know, physical
fitness can be quantified very easy of just
thinking of the formula for work, work equals
force times distance over time, and basically you
can break that down into sets and reps
and stuff like that, but at the end
of the day, if your body is capable
of doing more work, you are more physically
fit, depending on the adaptation that you want,
maybe you're a runner and not a strength
athlete, you would do running versus strength stuff,
but at the end of the day, it's
your body's ability to do work that's represented
in how your body adapts, so maybe back
off to just two or even three days
a week, and really get objective in saying,
what is it that I want to achieve,
do I want to put on more muscle
mass, do I want to lose more weight,
do I want to promote healthier posture and
healthier joints and things like that, what is
it that you want to do and then
get more streamlined in picking the modes that
you're going to explore with respect to cultivating
those things.
David, what about you, do you have a
question too?
Or Morgan, were you?
I just, sorry David, I just want to
add for her also because my antennas went
up when you said you had a sweet
tooth, because that's what one of my biggest
struggles is, and Shane had mentioned earlier about
being able to change your, you know, the
taste buds changing and changing your palate and
your desires, I went on a 30-day
like fast from sugar and it was hard,
it was, you know, ups and downs the
first week, it got easier, by the end
of that 30 days, things didn't even sound
good, I mean, I went to bed on
the, no it was 40 days, I went
to bed on the 39th day and I'm
like tomorrow, or on the 40th day and
I'm like, tomorrow's the 41st day I can,
you know, I'm gonna wake up and go
get whatever drink I want at Starbucks or
this or that, and I was so excited,
I set my alarm for the morning, I'm
gonna get, you know, it's my first one
in 40 days, I woke up and didn't
even want it, so if you can get
yourself on a fast saying, okay I'm gonna
get, I'm gonna go this amount of days,
at least 30 probably to give your body
time, at the end of that you may
find that that curbs your sugar cravings, but
it's torture the first week, so be careful.
And, and just so people know too, often
a sweet tooth means also the body is
still starving for nutrients it didn't receive throughout
the day, you know, if I have a
huge salad and I'm talking about cut up
bell peppers, cut up cucumbers, cut up tomatoes,
cut up avocado, you know, a little bit
of chicken on it, you know, the sweet
tooth isn't as, as, it's almost like if
you eat sugar throughout the day, then you
want it again at night, it's almost like
you're feeding that desire, so you can really
starve that, that desire, like Morgan said too,
went back to healthy eating.
David, sorry.
That's right, I just, first of all, before
I get into my question, I would like
to piggyback on what you've said tonight, I've
been saying about fasting, that I haven't, wasn't
really consciously looking for losing weight, I was
fasting for the spiritual reasons that, you know,
it's God says we're supposed to, and to
get closer to him, and he's done pretty
much miraculous things through fasting, and getting prepared
for being baptized, which I was last Sunday,
and I don't think I, I think the
enemy would have had me come up with
more excuses to put it off if it
wasn't for fasting, and you know, I could
talk, you know, till the sun goes down
about all the benefits of fasting, and anyways,
but a side benefit is I've lost 70
pounds, and that's primarily from fasting.
Wow.
You say 70?
70, right?
7-0.
7-0, yeah.
Wow.
That's good, and that's a good point you
brought up, because I don't want people to
be left with, you know, fasting really, when
I do, it's not for weight loss, that's
the, that's a byproduct.
Icing on the cake.
You know, that's the icing on, because anything
you do spiritually, it has benefit, also has
physical benefits, so if you're going, I'm gonna
fast, I would seek God, I would pray,
and, and then have the, the weight loss
will become part of the benefit of fasting
and seeking God, but I'm sorry, did you
have a question, though, on?
Yes, I'd like to speak on, or have
you, your opinion on alkaline, your alkalinity of
the body, as far as eating healthy, I
know, because if you eat fruits and vegetables,
all the things that are good, and not
meat in excess, you're gonna have more of
a higher pH, which is healthier, and your
bodies could be more resistant to disease and
cancer, and those type of things, and if
you have acidic, low pH, your body, whether
you test your, you can find that out
by getting strips at whole wheat or something,
test strips for your urine or saliva, but
anyways, acidic, you're more resistant to disease, like
drinking lots of coffee, red meats all the
time, and one thing that I've done to
increase my pH is through drinking alkaline water,
and I, there's different places to buy it,
but I, you have to ease into it,
and start at lower levels, because you're, it
does detox your body, and it, you can
have all these symptoms of the detox, like
I've had, I went too fast too soon,
where I started having rash, feeling like I
have the flu, and headache, and all these
things, but I've been on that, and my
pH has raised, and I I know that
you should do it with your whole body,
eating healthy, and it'll help your pH level,
but like one thing I did to kick
-start it, I've done for years now, is
go over to Aloha Pure Water in a
Lancaster marketplace, mom-and-pop store, and let
me share an example about how alkaline water,
I saw with my own two eyes, somebody
who had a whole laundry list of health
problems, okay, just basically, he was healed, I
mean from, from osteoarthritis, rheumatoid, gout, kidney disease,
diabetes, all improved through him raising his pH
levels, from being a proverbial old man, to
a store owner, putting his feet up like
that, so my question is, what is your
expertise, expert opinion on pH levels?
Well before, if you don't know what he's
talking about, he's talking about the bodies either
in an acidic state, or an alkaline state,
it's in the, the thought is cancer only,
cancer needs two things to grow, it needs
oxygen, it needs food, I mean that's, anybody
will tell you that, that's a physician, so
the alkaline state, like coffee, bad food, it
puts your body in that acidic, toxic state,
where then God-given foods, if you look
at, I mean all the, the foods that
promote a high pH balance, where your, your,
your, your, the acidity rate is, is, is
much lower, it's got a, it's a, it's
alkaline, I believe they call it, right, a
high alkaline state, so all the God-given
foods, eating healthy, it puts your body in
an alkaline state, so I think there's truth
to it, I just don't, it's a guy,
it's funny, the guy who gets, you know,
high alkaline water, but still has a terrible
diet, you know, the, the good water isn't
going to offset the bad diet, so I
think there's something to it personally, if you
eat bad food, acidic food, and you're, it
would, it would feed the disease, but if
you're eating healthy food that puts you in
a higher pH balance level, then that is,
is going to be more for restorative healing
and health, so I, I wouldn't get too
caught up in it, I guess is my
thought, but eating good, taking care of your
body automatically does that.
Right, I know, because I had osteomyelitis, which
is an infection, and avascular necrosis, where I
was off my, an ankle for eight months,
not able to walk, wheelchair mainly, and avascular
necrosis just mean the, the blood wasn't going
there, so it's, you know, bone and whatever
is all dying, and for myself, I can
tell, I was unable to walk around much
at all, for long distances, or not, I'm
not supposed to wear dress shoes, a lot
of times I do, I just didn't today,
but anyways, I was able to take, with
drinking alkaline water, I was able to take,
being overweight, way overweight, like I told you,
close to 70 pounds at that time, taking
martial arts, jumping around, kicking, and I could
go all through the training, and no problems,
when I was off the alkaline water, I
could just barely get through it, so I
know, personal testimony, that there's something to it,
with the alkaline water, also ionic, which means
it has a negative charge, like you have
static electricity, it only lasts for a little
bit, the, the water, you get it, I,
kind of, ionic state, negative charge, helps detox
your body, and you have, the sooner you
drink it, the better, because after three days,
it's pretty much gone down to zero, and
also, like, somebody is just asking me about
starting back, working out, oh, you're sore, no,
because lactic acid is an acidic thing, your
body's acidic, I don't have that, when drinking
the water, okay, so, you know, no, I
totally agree, and Fred, who actually owns that,
died of cancer, Fred passed away, so I,
I don't know, but his diet wasn't, well,
I shouldn't even get into that, so my
point was, to just don't trust in that
alone, on the, right, but yeah, take it,
do it, I think, I don't have any
problem with that, I think it's good, you
know, putting your body in a, in an
alkaline state, you know, it's definitely good, is
there any questions after David, I know, we
went way past, could I make a, just
a comment, and if there's any more statements,
stand behind David, so we know, yeah, just
real question time, assuming we don't have any
more questions, one thing, not so much, that
I want to point out, for our live
audience here, but for our live stream, audience,
because we probably have people watching this on
the internet, that are thinking, vegan, paleo, all
these other things, and stuff, and if you
spend any time in the secular world, or
on the internet, you will see how inflammatory
the discussions are, between those groups, and the
people who hang out with those ideologies, we
are not label chasers up here, we do
have probably three separate personal convictions, with respect
to food, we have a lot of the
same things in common, but with respect to
our food, and our food production, and stuff,
I think we each three practice different ways,
if you're interested in learning that, come talk
to us individually, after this is over, this
isn't, this isn't about that, but the thing
that I want to harp on, most importantly,
is that we're brothers in Christ, and we're
united by the Holy Spirit, and our unity
is not through our food choices, our unity
is through the redemptive blood that he shed
for us, and Paul, I think, articulates, if
you're thinking about, well, does the Bible forbid
me from eating meat, or does it say
that I have to eat it, and I'm
mandated to eat it, or whatever, Paul lays
it out very clearly in Romans 14, if
you have any questions about your personal conviction
with respect to food, read Romans 14, because
he spells it out pretty clearly, he says
that we should not cause our brother to
stumble, and so if you have a brother
who feels differently from you, don't cause your
brother to stumble, seek unity first, and he
says that whatever is not of faith is
sin, so that make sure that whatever you're
doing, with respect to this area, is from
your faith, and it's not being led by
your flesh, but that being said, in spite
of the differences that we may have, these
two gentlemen are my brothers, and I love
them dearly, and I would take a bullet
for them, because we are united by the
same, we are united by the same Holy
Spirit, and the thing that makes us who
we are is Christ's work that he's done
for us, not our personal food choices.
I would like to, thank you, yes, very
much, well said, that's why we're here, because
of God, to glorify him, and to be
here with brothers and sisters, building each other
up, but I'd like to respond that Fred
moved into a local retirement community, and he
was not drinking alkaline water when he died,
but I saw the quality of life, remember,
bent over old man, barely moved, almost for
old man, spreading back and forth across this
store, kicking his leg up on top of
the counter, primarily from the alkaline water, so.
Yeah, no, I agree, I don't want anybody,
I think it's great, I just see, I
guess I see a lot of people with
alkaline water, with their Western Double Bacon Cheeseburger.
Exactly, right.
Thinking that's the, you know, it's not going
to, you can't just trust in the alkaline
water, it's good, I have it, I have
it in my office, I have it at
home, I have, I have it, I just
didn't want people to, to think it's a
miracle cure, but I totally agree with what
you're saying.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, I think it's a great, great idea.
I appreciate what you've done here, I think
you need to do more of them.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, thank you.
Morgan, did you have a question?
Anybody else?
Last thing, just wanted everyone to know, you
can thank Aubrey for providing your healthy snacks.
All right.
Oh, yes, yes, there's an eight-week, we're
going to put together an eight-week follow
-up group if you want to sign up
for that in the lobby.
And if you have questions, you know, we
can pray with you afterwards.
Tony, you know where he's at, you know,
or Luke's out.
Like Luke said, we do have different diet
guidelines.
We look at, you know, just, I think
when you pray and seek God, you will
have different lines, you know, you're going to
feel differently about things.
So, come forward if you have any questions,
we'll be out there.
And if you need prayer, let us know.
And we will see you hopefully tomorrow morning,
right?
The sermon won't be as long tomorrow morning,
it'll be a shorter one.
Thank you guys, we'll see you then.