Sorry, Genesis, Book of Genesis.
If you don't know where that is, it's
the opposite end to Revelation.
Genesis chapter thirty, where, thirty-two.
Genesis thirty-two, I'm reading from verse one,
And Jacob went on his way, and the
angels of God met him.
And when Jacob saw them, he said, This
is God's host.
And he called the name of that place
Manaheim.
Actually, that word Mahaneim means two hosts, because
there was one host before him and a
host behind him.
And Jacob sent messengers before him to Esau,
his brother, unto the land of Seir, in
the country of Edom.
And he commanded them, saying, Thus shall ye
speak unto my lord Esau.
Thy servant Jacob saith thus, I have sojourned
with Laban, and stayed there until now.
I have oxen, asses, flocks, men servants, women
servants.
I have sent to tell my lord that
he may find grace in thy sight.
And the messengers returned to Jacob, saying, We
came to thy brother Esau, and he cometh
to meet thee with four hundred men.
How wonderful.
Well, then the next verse tells you what
happened.
Then Jacob was greatly afraid and distressed.
Well, wouldn't you be if four hundred men
were coming after you?
All determined to destroy you.
Then was Jacob greatly afraid and distressed.
And he divided the people that was with
him, and the flocks and the herds, camels
in two bands, and said, If Esau come
with one company and smite it, then the
other company which are left shall be saved.
And Jacob said, O God of my father
Abraham, God of my father Isaac, the Lord
which said unto me, Return unto thy country
and to thy kindred, and I will deal
well with thee.
Now he changed his tune, I am not
worthy to be the least of all thy
servants.
Verse eleven, Deliver me, I pray thee, from
the hand of my brother, from the hand
of Esau, for I fear lest he will
fear, lest he will come and smite me
and the mother with the children.
Well, there's a background for you.
Verse nineteen, So he commanded the second, oh
no, I'm sorry, I must go back.
Verse sixteen, He delivered them into the hand
of his servants, every drove by themselves, that
is every group of cattle, and said unto
his servants, Pass over before me, and put
a space between, betwixt drove and drove.
You see, he didn't want the cattle mixing
up, he didn't want them under one big
line, he wanted them in short sections.
A section of sheep, another section of sheep,
a section of some other cattle, and so
forth.
He commanded the foremost, saying, When Esau my
brother meeteth thee, and asketh thee, Whose art
thou, and where goest thou, and whose are
these before thee?
Then thou shalt say, They are thy servant
Jacob's, it is a present sent unto him.
You see how cautious he is?
Scripture verse nineteen, And so he commanded the
second section, and then the third section, and
all that followed in the drove, saying, This
manner shall ye speak unto Esau.
And say, Moreover, behold, thy servant Jacob is
behind us, for he said, I will appease
him with the present that goeth before me.
You see, he's still a good Jew, he
doesn't want to give too much away.
If he can appease his brother with one
section of sheep, he's not giving the next
lot.
But if he presses, give them.
If he takes the cattle, and he's not
satisfied, well, give him the second one.
But don't let him come near me.
And he's kind of buying time to get
where he wants to go.
Verse twenty, He said, I will appease him
with the present that goeth before me, and
afterward I will see his face, and peradventure
he will accept me.
So went the present over before him, and
himself lodged that night, notice it's night, in
the country.
I remember when I was young and enthusiastic,
an assistant pastor to a very brilliant pastor,
in fact the most brilliant preacher I ever
heard, Dr. Fawcett.
We took the whole church over from England
to the Isle of Man, that's an island
between England and Ireland.
It's a self-governing island, it has a
wonderful creature there, only found there in the
whole world.
It has a beautiful cat, and every cat
in that island never has a tail.
They're born without tails, and that's not a
tail.
It's true.
And we pitched our big tent in one
field, and the women were lodged in that,
and men in the other field, and a
central tent for eating.
One night I decided to stay up and
spend the night in prayer, so I went
into a field about, I guess, nine o
'clock.
It had been a warm night for England,
roasting hot, seventy-two, and I thought this
is a lovely night, so I got down
in the grass, I lay prostrate in the
grass, which is fine for a couple of
hours, but about one and two o'clock
the rabbits came round me to see what
was lying in the field, this strange creature.
I'd never forgotten that night.
It was beautiful going in, but it got
intensely dark, it got intensely cold, it got
intensely lonely.
Now here is this man in the same
situation.
Pardon me.
Verse twenty-one, so went the present over
before him, and himself lodged that night in
the company.
And he rose up that night and took
his two wives and his two women servants
and his eleven sons and passed over the
four jabbok.
And he took them and sent them over
the brook, and sent over that he had.
And Jacob was left alone.
Notice, did you, in verse seven we read,
Jacob was greatly afraid.
And he divided the people.
How many people?
I don't know.
Servants, women's servants, wives, everything else.
But verse twenty-four says, Jacob was left
alone.
You know that's one thing God's trying to
get with most of us?
Trying to get us alone.
We go to so many meetings, we have
so many friends, and God all the time
is trying to separate us.
He has to separate this man from his
wealth, from his home, from his possession, from
his position, he's alone.
And it's a dark, dark night.
Well if I ask you what this story
is about, you'll say, oh we know this
Brother Amiel over and over again.
It's Jacob wrestling with an angel.
No it isn't, it's an angel wrestling with
Jacob.
Jacob didn't go looking for the angel.
The angel came looking for Jacob.
Let me read it to you.
Verse twenty-four, Jacob was left alone and
there wrestled a man with him.
Later he wrestles with the man, but first
of all it was the man that wrestled
with him.
And struggled with him all night, in the
cold night, lonely.
Maybe hearing the roar of beasts, wild beasts.
Darkness, isolation, hunger, starvation if you like.
Everything's been away from him and he's alone.
I remember flying over the Rockies once and
the pilot of the plane said, if you
look to the right you'll see an eagle
flying.
There was one eagle.
They seldom fly in crowds, breeding time yes,
but otherwise alone.
I remember crossing the Atlantic and the buzzer
went on the ship, go to starboard and
you'll see a beautiful whale just goes, and
there was a great whale and it was
tossing its water in the air.
And most often the whale, it goes alone.
Great birds fly alone.
The lion goes hunting alone.
The devil as a roaring lion goes about.
When does he roar?
Well if the lion roared everything would run
away from it.
He roars when he gets his foot on
something and he's possessed it and he's torn
it and he's tasted the blood.
Great lions hunt alone.
Great birds fly alone.
Great fishes swim alone.
Great people walk alone.
I know she didn't say amen but anyhow
it's still there.
Jacob was left alone and there wrestled with
him a man.
Why didn't Jacob go home?
But the man wrestled with him until the
breaking of the day.
Why didn't he answer his prayer immediately?
He's going to answer him, he's going to
deliver him, why not do it now?
Because it's a test of character to be
alone.
Because I've told you before, God is not
capricious, he doesn't play tricks.
You see, if I'd spent more time alone
with God instead of travelling and thinking I
was changing the world and what not, I'd
be a very different man.
Verse 25, when he saw that he prevailed
not against him he touched the hull of
his thigh.
Now in the first part of the story
the angel lays hold of Jacob and Jacob
tries to get away.
In the second part of the story the
angel tries to get away, which I'm sure
is the anointed, the angel of the covenant.
I've got to quote Wesley, you'd think I'm
dying or something.
I may be wrong in this, I think
I'm right.
Oh, there's somebody else's language here.
If you go in St. Paul's Cathedral, I
think it is, or Westminster Abbey, there's what
looks like a big coin on the wall
and there are two, there's a double profile,
Charles Wesley and John Wesley.
Somebody said the most amazing brothers that ever
worked in the church of Jesus Christ.
Well, John made the theology and his brother
set it to music.
We're going to learn his great hymn and
can it be that I should gain an
interest in the Saviour's blood.
We're going to put that in the front
page of the book.
Well, I think this story, this story that
I'm reading to you bit by bit, I
want to put it this way, with a
masterly economy of words, Charles Wesley puts that
whole story together in verse.
It begins like this, come all thou traveller
unknown, whom still I hold, but cannot see.
My company, it sent them, my company before
is gone and I am left alone with
thee.
With thee all night I mean to stay
and wrestle till the break of day.
Then he's holding on to the man, he
says, in vain thou strugglest to get free,
I never will unloose my hold.
Art thou the man that died for me?
The secret of thy love unfold.
Wrestling, I will not let thee go, till
I thy name and nature know.
He says, yield to me now, for I
am weak.
You see, our idea is we have to
be strong.
The reason God can't use you, you're too
strong.
Intellectually, you have to be strong spiritually, sure
enough.
But it's the lame that take the prey,
so those who have no might increase their
strength.
We don't quote Isaiah 40 enough.
What does it say?
They that wait upon the Lord shall renew
their strength, they shall mount up with wings
as eagles, they shall run and walk be
weary and walk and not faint.
And it goes on to say again that
strength comes to the weak.
One of the greatest mission societies ever was
founded by a man called Hudson Taylor.
I pastored a church many years after he'd
been in that town.
There's no memorial there, except in town there's
a cooperative store and they have one old
room with an old fireplace and a few
pots and pans.
That young man went from Barnsley to China
and established the China Inland Mission.
You see, if you had, say that's China,
everybody came in by sea and they stopped
at all the seaside towns.
He went right inland there to the most
difficult part and established the China Inland Mission.
Somebody asked him one day, well you've been
to China already.
Yes, I've come back.
I hear you're going back again.
Yes.
What are your resources?
How much money do you have?
He said I have exactly a hundred dollars
in the bank.
You're going to evangelize China with a hundred
dollars?
He said yes.
Is that all?
He said yes.
And all the promises of God.
And from that day to this, that society
has never taken an offering at the door
or an offering from anybody.
But why did you do it?
I mean there's a group of intellectuals there,
Christian intellectuals, students in Cambridge University, Oxford University,
some very brilliant ones in Glasgow University.
Why did God take you?
He said he'd been looking for years to
find the weakest man he could find and
he found me.
And immediately he found me, he said I
became a giant in faith and expectation.
I got rooted in the word of God
and I've drawn life on him in every
difficult circumstance.
He'd been there a number of years, he
got a house, he had meetings in the
house, his wife died unexpectedly.
And he's ten thousand miles away from home.
He put all the servants out of the
house and asked the friends to go.
They had those big old-fashioned English doors,
they have keyholes, you can nearly get through
them, never mind look through them.
And the servants said we watch him, watch
him, watch him, you watch him.
And they watched in turns.
He's going to break down.
He's ten thousand miles away from home.
There had already been division in his camp,
there had been criticism at home, he was
going through a time of hell as it
were.
Everything's falling around about him and when he
needs it most his wife dies.
Well you'll see him, he'll be angry, he'll
pray, he'll weep.
Instead of that he walked up and down
quietly up and down that room and just
waved to the casket where his wife's remains
were, singing Jesus I am resting, resting in
the joy of what thou art.
I am finding out the greatness of thy
loving heart.
Thou hast bid me gaze upon thee and
thy beauty fills my soul, for by thy
transforming power thou hast made me whole.
Jesus I am resting, not weeping, not fretting,
not complaining, resting.
There remaineth a rest for the people of
God.
I'm going to dig in that again sometime.
The first call of Jesus was come unto
me, the second was follow me, the third
was abide in me.
Jesus says come unto me all ye that
are weary and heavy laden, I will give
you rest.
Then you cross a bridge, take my yoke
upon you and learn of me, for I
am meek and lowly of heart and ye
shall find rest.
But they've got rest, he told them they'd
rest.
They rest from anxiety about sin, anxiety about
death, anxiety about judgment, but they still don't
have the inward rest.
They've too much inward strife.
There remaineth a rest, Hebrews says, for the
people of God.
Well he says yield to me now for
I am weak but confident in self-despair.
Speak to my heart in blessing speak, be
conquered by my instant prayer, speak or thou
never hence shalt move and tell me if
thy name is love.
My prayer hath power with God, the grace
unspeakable I now receive.
Through faith I see thee face to face,
I see thee face to face and live.
In vain I have not wept and strove,
thy nature and thy name is love.
What does God do to him?
He struggles all night.
Jacob wants to get free.
Hour after hour they wrestle, they wrestle, they
wrestle.
And God doesn't deliver him.
Why?
Because he's still confident he can do it
himself.
He's still confident he can beat this person
whoever he is.
Well who do you think he thought it
was?
He's at the other side of the brook
Jabbok.
There's only one man in the world he
fears and that's his brother who said he
would destroy him.
And as Jacob goes around the rock there
somebody jumps on him.
Well who do you think he thought it
was?
I'm sure he thought it was his brother.
If I'm going to die I'm going to
die fighting.
And he struggles and he fights and he
wrestles.
You know so often when we get into
circumstances where God is trying to get us
down, pin us to the ground and show
us we have nothing we fight and we
struggle and we pray and we send for
requests for prayer.
We undo what God's trying to do in
our lives.
People ask me sometimes, will you pray for
us?
No I won't pray for you.
Why?
You're asking me to pray God will take
off you what God wanted to put on
you?
You don't become a saint by reading books.
You don't become strong by reading books.
They may help you to some degree.
So there he is.
He's trying to get away and all the
angel of God does, which is a son
of God I'm sure.
Or the angel of the covenant.
And the more he struggles and wriggles, the
tighter the grip on him and there he
is.
He's locked up in the arms of this
person.
What happens?
Jacob was left alone and wrestled with the
man until the breaking of the day.
What weary hours it must have been.
Do you think it was?
Don't you think it was the most exciting
thing that ever happened to him?
He couldn't explain it but he's experiencing it.
There are things that you can never explain
that you haven't experienced.
And yet this person, as I say the
angel of the covenant is wrestling with him.
Verse 25 says when he saw that he
prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow
of his thigh.
Why?
Because that was Jacob's last resort.
When you're wrestling, a man that wrestles, he
needs strong thighs.
And this man is pretty strong.
And the last thing that has to go
is his self-sufficiency, his strength.
He has to get to the place where
he says, God I've got nothing.
I've done some wrestling before, I usually win,
but here I am, I'm beaten now.
And God puts his finger on the spot
where he was strongest.
So be careful how you pray because God
may come on your life like that.
God doesn't want just your weakness, he will
transform it.
But he takes our strength.
Now the tide is turned.
Instead of Jacob trying to get away from
the one who's wrestling, the one who was
wrestling with him tried to get away and
he says, I will not let thee go.
Contented now upon my thigh, he's lame.
You see that the reason we don't pray
is that it demands so much on the
flesh, even this flesh.
You can't pray if you have a fleshly
nature.
You sabotage your own praying.
But it's hard on the flesh.
Do you think that man Jacob ever forgot
the place?
He could come up a mountain and say,
it was just behind that rock there, it
was there where I met God.
It was there where I went up in
strength and he weakened me.
It was there where I went up weak
and he strengthened me.
He took away my last resort, he took
my strength from me.
You say, we say that this man Jacob
is trying to get a blessing.
No, God's trying to get something out of
him.
I remember as a youngster once I saw
a telescope, I picked it up and I
looked through the wrong end.
I couldn't believe why people were excited being
looking through it.
I picked it up and here it's, the
object is away there and it's about this
size.
Then suddenly I turned it around and looked
the other way, made all the difference.
If you see this story only as Jacob
trying to get a blessing, it's more than
that.
This holy one is trying to get him
right to the last resource and take his
strength until he's nothing at all to lean
on.
He's left his wife, he's left his children,
he's left his servants, he's left his possessions,
he's left his cattle, but God hasn't gotten
him alone yet.
Then he gets alone.
And where does he get you alone?
In the darkness.
Isn't that something?
You tell me what a man does in
his spare time, I'll tell you what kind
of a man he is.
He hangs on.
And as I said the other night, if
you hang on to God, you don't need
to hang on to anybody else.
You'll have friends and so forth, but in
the deepest sense of the word you hang
on to God for your life, for your
joy, for your peace, because he is all
I need we sing.
Can you imagine somebody saying, I saw Jacob
the other day, you know he drags one
leg.
Oh I saw him a couple of years
ago he was like that.
It's not getting any better, no it isn't.
You see there's part of a beast that
the Jews to this day won't eat because
of this fact.
Jacob, remember out of him there's going to
come a marvellous race of people.
But God gets him to the extreme where
he has nothing.
He's no home, he's no wife, he's no
children, he's no possessions.
And the last thing he has God said
I'll take that as well.
But look at the reward that he had.
The angel, verse 26 says, let me go
for the daybreak and he said I will
not let thee go except thou bless me.
Sure he's after a blessing.
And the angel said thy name shall be
called no more Jacob but Israel because you're
a prince.
You came up here with possessions, you came
up with personality, you came up with power,
but it's all gone.
Isn't that nice to have a title like
that, a prince with God?
But you know what?
Your friends may flatter you, but God never
flatters anybody.
He flattens you but doesn't flatter us.
You say well why doesn't he flatter us?
Because it says in the 41st of Isaiah,
fear not thou worm Jacob.
How do you like that?
I saw my neighbour, he's Jacob tonight.
I said I've got a new name for
you.
He said what?
I said you're a worm.
He said what?
I said that's what the Bible says.
In Isaiah 40 it says fear not thou
worm Jacob.
So what?
Do you want to see some more of
my artistry?
Here it is.
You wouldn't guess what that is.
Well it's a mountain.
And here's a little thing.
A dirty little worm.
And here's a mountain.
Here's an elephant.
Oh he's a monkey.
You can tell it by it's trunk.
But anyhow.
Here's an elephant.
This little thing can go in a mountain,
right through that mountain to the other side.
No other creature in creation can do that.
And it says in Isaiah 51, fear not
thou worm Jacob, thou shalt thresh the mountains.
Doesn't make a good context does it?
The worm goes in at one side, then
what happens?
The air blows through and that solid stuff
becomes, excuse me, becomes dirt and dust and
blows away.
But the only creature that can go through
a mountain.
I used to pick worms up when I
was a boy and put them in my
sister's hand.
Put them in her bed once and sure
got into trouble.
But you know after that she, when she
got exasperated and angry with me she'd say
you worm.
That used to make me so mad.
She'd call me a butterfly.
A worm?
A worm has no eyes.
I've never found eyes on a worm.
I've never found legs on a worm.
It has no hands.
I can't find it's brain.
It's a picture of absolute nothingness.
And yet God says that creature can go
through a mountain and you're facing mountains of
opposition become a worm.
Discard all your ability, throw away all your
personality so to speak.
Plead your weakness because he turns it into
strength.
Thou shall be called no more Jacob as
a prince thou hast power with God.
He doesn't heal him.
And he doesn't pray for healing.
The brand of God is to take men
and show them in their weakness and deficiency
how he can take them.
I remember when Nicky Cruz came to God,
we were working in Teen Challenge at that
time in New York.
He could hardly put two English words together.
He didn't do too good now but he
was worse then.
Oh how contemptuous he was at first of
Christianity.
And yet how marvelously God changed him and
others that I think were far beyond him.
I remember a man coming in, he was
about six feet high and I said what
do you want?
He said this is my wife.
I said she is?
Well no, no, no, no, no.
She's not my wife.
We've should have seen it.
I'm sure she'd done it with Mobil oil
that had been through the engine once.
Streaky, she smelled, woof, woof.
Get my wife off drugs.
Thank you for the order.
We sent her in a room where about
forty women were praying.
She came out of that totally liberated, transformed.
Next day when I got to that room
he said, my wife Mary, she's different.
Will she stay different?
I said she will if God's made her
different.
Can I go in that room?
Yes he went in.
They had a system of robbing.
They had a plan for porn shops in
New York.
They marked them out, you know, they say
there's West 44th Street that runs through some
other place.
They had all these porn shops marked and
they raided them systematically and she watched on
the street and she had a sign to
give him.
He got in the back.
They robbed and robbed and robbed and robbed.
He went in that room and he got
marvelously saved.
He was illiterate.
Dear old Dave used to dress them up,
get them nice soaps and get the teeth
fixed and the hair cut and all the
rest.
That guy was illiterate.
He went to a small, yes, Pentecostal Bible
school on the East Coast.
For an extracurricular activity he studied Greek.
At the end of the first semester when
the Greek expositor was speaking he'd say, you
know gentlemen there's a word, a Greek word
for flesh is sarx.
And he said yes sir and there's another
one called soma, sarx and soma and they're
interchanged.
And he kept pulling the Greek scholar up.
So at the end of the semester they
asked the guy to leave.
He's now a very awesome man.
He's a marvellous man of God.
We had another man there from Yale University,
no Harvard.
And recently I talked with him, I said
what about, what was his name, James.
He said I went to a conference to
speak and James spoke before me, I didn't
speak after him.
Here's a man from Harvard has to follow
a guy that's been in the gutter, he'd
lived with women, he'd drunk, he'd fought, he'd
been in murders, been in everything.
And yet God gets hold of him.
He's still lame in some ways, he bears
scars, but to me he's a prince with
God.
You can have your superstars on TV, I've
not much respect for them, never mind anything
else.
As a prince thou hast listened to things
power with God and you've prevailed.
You know, I noticed one thing missing out
of this time of prayer.
It doesn't say that he wept, does it?
Yes it does.
Well you say it doesn't in my version,
well you've got to read the King James.
But you won't find it in the story,
you'll find it in Hosea, of all the
places, a little prophecy of Hosea.
Chapter twelve, and verse two says the Lord
also had controversy with Judah and will punish
Jacob according to his ways.
Jacob, this same Jacob, according to his doings
will he recompense him.
He took his brother by the heel in
the womb and by his strength he had
power with God.
Yea he had power over the angel, the
angel, the angel of the covenant.
He had power over the angel of God
and he wept.
You can't have travail without tears.
You can't have travel without sweat.
Let me give you the last verse from
Mr. Wesley here a minute.
He says, lame as I am I take
the prey.
Hell, earth, listen, lame as I am I
take the prey, hell, earth and sin with
ease or come.
I leap for joy, pursue my way and
as a bounding heart fly home through all
eternity to prove thy nature and thy name
is love.
Beautiful.
You know I hear people say today, oh
you get Ravenhill and some of those old
cronies there.
You know we don't have to lay hold
of God now, we don't have to pray
like this.
I was telling a lady this week, a
few years ago I went to a big
conference, I never got back, they asked me
to preach and I preached on the judgment
seat for three hours and fifteen minutes and
I didn't know it was that time.
They said they had those big reels, you
remember the old reels they had?
We filled two or three of those, so
what, you got your money's worth.
You know what, the altars were crowded and
a man came and he said, you know,
the altars were still filled at two o
'clock this morning.
People didn't used to go and kiss the
ground with their knees and get up when
they had said a little slobbering prayer to
the Lord.
I'm sorry for my sins, I'd like to
be better, my prayer life is weak.
They stayed at the altar, what they called,
they prayed through, they prayed till they got
assurance.
And once they got up, all the demons
in hell couldn't shift them, there's no backsliding.
How many churches you go to, they believe
in eternal security but they get saved, every
revival they have in there are three a
year, they get saved three times over in
their eternal security.
So they must be pretty insecure in their
security.
I'm just
looking there at Isaiah 64, 7, isn't it
there?
Isaiah 64 and verse 7, what does it
say?
There is none that calleth on upon thy
name that stirreth up himself to take hold
of thee.
I don't care how many baptisms of the
Holy Ghost you have, I don't care how
many gifts you have.
There are times you have to stir yourself
up.
Paul says to Timothy, stir up the gift
of God which is in thee by the
laying up of my hands.
We go to sleep so easily, we get
satisfied so easily.
You have to keep constantly stirring yourself up.
How do you do it?
You can do it by literature.
Every time I see precious, I forgot his
name now, Spencer there, I've got his list,
I read it today, about the Indians all
over America, the percentage, some of the tribes,
95% alcoholics, some 80%, some 70%.
And the stuffy folk all sit in churches
all day Sunday, they haven't stretched their hand
out to the people that own the country.
There are four times as many suicides amongst
the Indians, isn't it, as there are amongst
white people.
And four times as many, what's the other?
Mortality rate is four times that of the
whites.
And alcoholics, four times the rate.
Suicide, four times the rate.
Who bothers about them?
I won't put you on the spot, I'm
not afraid to do it, I like to
do that.
Dear Lord, if I can embarrass you, what
are you going to do at the judgment
seat with a billion eyes looking on you?
When God looks on your record for today
and says you never thought of the Indians,
you haven't thought of the Indians for a
year.
They're full of superstition, they have witch doctors,
they have witchcraft, not in Africa but here
in America.
But somehow it's more exciting to get in
a canoe and paddle up the Amazon to
the Indians there, and there are lots of
them there.
There may be a million, you go up
the Amazon and turn off to the Orinoco
River and turn off to another river.
And Mishra did that, and he said, I
thought, well this is wonderful, I'm a pioneer.
Nobody's ever been up here before, no white
man.
He went round a bend, there was a
sign, and hanging on a tree, Standard Oil.
Standard Oil had got there before the Mishra
had got there.
The Mormon society has more Mishra's than all
the other Mishra societies put together.
I read a statistic today that there are
51 million people in the world full of
the Holy Ghost with a Pentecost lecture, I
don't believe it for a minute.
Not 10% of them.
75 million Americans filled with the Holy Ghost
and with some stinking hell holes, they're preaching
faith and coveting this, and at the end
there's a woman selling her body in the
back street, kids are snuffing junk and drinking.
People are talking about the baptism of the
Holy Ghost, the biggest thing the church needs
now is a baptism of honesty.
Why don't we admit our bankruptcy, our powerlessness?
Okay, Jacob didn't give up, he held on
to the end.
If he hadn't have done that, what would
he have missed?
Again, isn't it better to be crippled and
leave that place a spiritual giant than go
on in the crazy way we're living now?
God says, none stirreth up himself to lay
hold of God.
The last scripture, Exodus 32 and 10, it's
almost a terrifying chapter.
I'll go back please, a little in there.
The beginning of chapter 32, when the people
saw that Moses delayed to come down out
of the mount, the people gathered themselves together
unto Aaron and said unto him up, make
us gods which should go before us.
Verse 4, he received of them at their
hand and fashioned it with a graving tool,
and with a graving tool.
He did it.
And then later he lies to God and
said, I put their gold together and a
calf jumped out.
That's a tall story, isn't it?
Bigger than any of Aesop's stories.
When Aaron saw it, verse 5, he built
an altar before it and made a proclamation
and said, tomorrow is a feast to the
Lord and the dancing round idols.
And the dancing round naked, verse 19 says,
it came to pass as soon as he
came nigh to the camp he saw the
calf and dancing.
Moses' anger waxed hot.
I'll go back to verse 7, the Lord
said unto Moses, get down, for the people
which thou brought out of Egypt have corrupted
themselves.
What would he say of our nation tonight?
A precious woman wrote me a letter this
week.
I've known her a number of years.
Her husband's a genius at golf.
They've tried to press him to become a
professional.
He won't.
I preached one night in Baton Rouge on
no man that warreth and entangleth himself with
the affairs of this life.
He cleared out all his expensive golfing gear
and he started collecting books.
Now he's got about twice or three times
as many as I have, some very choice
books.
And she said in a letter this week,
she said, well, Brother Len and Martha, the
Lord's really working on me.
I can hardly sleep after four o'clock.
I'm up every morning between four and five.
And I have to have long periods in
which I can't utter a word.
All I can do is sob and grieve
over a nation that's so rotten and a
church that's so sterile.
Pretty little business woman whose husband's well off.
She has a family and she says, I
can't, I can't sleep.
And when I get up, I can't pray.
I just grieve.
I just mourn.
I just weep.
Well, notice, if you're after a pure heart,
read what it says there in the fifth,
is it sixth, of Matthew.
It says, first of all, blessed are they
that mourn.
And then after that, a pure heart.
But you can't have a purity without mourning,
without grief, without brokenness.
To realize you've been crucifying the Son of
God afresh.
The Lord said, go down for thy people
which thou brought out of the land of
Egypt, they have corrupted themselves.
They've turned aside out of the way.
They made a molten calf and worshipped it.
Verse nine, the Lord said unto Moses, I've
seen this people.
Behold, it is a stiff-necked people.
Now therefore let me alone.
Verse ten, now therefore let me alone, that
my wrath may wax hot against them.
Skip over to verse nineteen.
He came to pass as soon as he
came unto the camp and he saw the
calf and the dancing, that Moses' anger waxed
hot.
You see, if you get into the presence
of God, when God's in a mood of
anger, you'll get angry.
There's an overflow out of God.
That's why I bypass a lot of this
junk, if you pardon me, and if you
want, I'll still say it, junk theology.
That the only sign of being filled with
the Holy Ghost is your speaking in tongues.
Nothing.
That's a genuine gift.
I don't believe many have it.
How often do you get holy anger?
How often do you go down past a
tavern and you see him brawling and shouting
and carrying on?
You pass a newsstand and half the girls
on the covers there are naked.
The Lord said unto Moses, I've seen this
people.
God says, look, America, I've seen you.
I know every hell hole you have.
I know every broken life.
I know every broken home and every mind
that's broken with drugs, every life that's broken
with uncleanness.
I know every diseased man with VD and
AIDS and all the rest of it.
I know it.
You've corrupted your generation.
You've out sinned Sodom.
You've out sinned Gomorrah.
And we're a stiff-necked people.
Sometimes I'm almost afraid to preach to people.
You've got so much light.
God help you at the judgment now.
Why should I give you more condemnation?
You'll have more to answer for after this
meeting tonight than you had when you came
in at that door.
Otherwise, it's not preaching.
We want to evade it.
The Lord said unto Moses, I have seen
this people and behold, it's a stiff-necked
people.
Now therefore let me alone.
Let my wrath wax hot against them and
I will consume them.
Well, this man loves the people.
He remembered when they were whipped, when the
skin was burning off their backs in the
pits where they were making stones in Egypt
and they were slaves and they had nothing
at all.
And he's seen them come out of that
and they're moving up to a land of
promise, though they get stuck on the way
of course.
But he loves the people.
Therefore let me alone.
It's a wonderful thing.
Listen, when somebody said to Billy Graham once,
why did God choose you?
I don't know, he said.
You know, it's a wonderful thing when God
reaches down from earth and gets hold of
the man.
There's only one thing more wonderful to me.
That's when a man on earth gets hold
of God.
This is paraphrased in the Old Methodist hymn
book.
Verse 10 now, therefore let me alone.
My wrath may wax hot against them, that
I may consume them or destroy them.
The Old Methodist hymn book says this, let
Moses in the spirit groan and God cries
out, let me alone.
This is not Moses crying because God has
a grip on him, it's God crying because
Moses has a grip on him.
Does God ever say that to you and
me?
Ask your preacher, he'll laugh at you.
Say that's some silly stuff, some sensational preacher.
No, it's God's word.
I tried to write a book, Revival of
God's Word, I didn't do a good job
of it.
But it's the only way it will come.
God has ordained it.
Let my anger wax hotter and hotter and
hotter.
Now we get this prayer in verse 12.
Wherefore should the Egyptians speak and say, for
mischief did he bring them out?
They knew that they'd gone of course and
he slew them in the mountains.
Why did he bring them out?
To consume them from the face of the
earth.
Turn from thy fierce wrath and repent of
the evil.
This prayer is continued in the same chapter,
verse 31.
And Moses returned unto the Lord and said,
O this people have sinned a great sin.
Do you think there's any preacher going to
his pulpit Sunday?
Stand up before his well-dressed congregation with
his arms up, sobbing and saying, God this
people have sinned a great sin.
I've enough sin in my auditorium to damn
the whole of America but we sin and
repent and sin and repent and sin and
repent and we mock the blood and we
mock the resurrection.
And we mock the Holy Ghost.
I'm sick to death of people making cheap
invitations.
Come up for this.
Are you afraid of the future?
Are you afraid of, forget it.
The altar is for two things only that
I know of in the Bible.
One is for sacrifice, the other is for
death.
If not, keep it away.
I won't beg you to come to an
altar.
You never ask people to come to an
altar in revival.
In evangelism, yes.
In revival, no.
When you have time, go home and read
the first chapter in Luke.
And it says while Luke was preaching, remember
his father was filled with the Holy Ghost,
his mother was filled with the Holy Ghost.
He was filled with the Holy Ghost from
his mother's womb so he couldn't have spoken
in tongues that day, could he?
The day he came out of his mother's
womb filled with the Holy Ghost.
And his mother filled with the Holy Ghost,
his father, and he was filled with the
Holy Ghost.
I don't believe a man filled with the
Holy Ghost ever begs for money.
I don't believe a man filled with the
Holy Ghost ever wants the favor of the
people.
John preached, what happened?
The republicans cried out, what shall we do?
The people cried out, what shall we do?
The Romans were there.
As Kipling would say in his marvelous recessional,
they're the lesser breeds, outside of the law.
And they had breastplates on and plumes in
their helmets.
But the words of John went through those
breastplates like a knife going through butter.
And they cried out, the heathen from a
foreign country, didn't know a thing about the
eternal God.
And they saw a man blazing with holy
indignation and anger.
And they said, what shall we do?
I turned down more invitations to go to
conferences on revival than you'd believe.
Because in the first place, nobody that's talking
about it knows about it.
I don't believe there are ten people in
America that have been to a revival ever.
There's one dear old lady in the, what's
her name, Arthur Indy?
Bertha Smith, ninety, about seven years of age,
went through the Shang Tung revival.
When the lights in the sanctuary didn't go
out for weeks.
When people didn't sin in the streets.
When she says one man got on his
donkey, he wasn't going to go to the
church in town.
So he went round to get out of
a gate.
They have cities with gates.
And when he got there, the donkey got
stiff-legged and he wouldn't shift.
So he beat it and it wouldn't shift.
So he says, well I'll go through the
other gate.
So he went right through town.
And when he got to the place where
the revival was, the donkey wouldn't shift.
It had more sense than he had.
And it wouldn't shift anywhere till he got
off and went and heard what God was
saying.
All that paper, paper, paper evangelism.
I don't agree with all Karl Barth said,
Barth if you want to call him that.
But not long before he did he said,
I'm looking for a substantial theology.
I'm looking for a massive theology.
I'm looking for a massive evangelism.
I'm looking for a manifestation, God in heaven.
When did he last tiptoe out of the
sanctuary speechless?
You had to get out of the door
the talking football or other junk.
But it changes the vocabulary of people once
the Holy Ghost touches them.
If he doesn't, he didn't touch them.
Not just speaking in tongues which is beautiful
when God gives it, but their tongue is
a different tongue.
It's a kind tongue.
It's an uncritical tongue.
It's a loving tongue.
It's a concerned tongue.
Okay, chapter 32 still.
And Moses returned unto the Lord and said,
O this people have sinned a great sin.
They've made gods of gold.
And now if thou wilt forgive their sin,
and then it runs out of vocabulary.
That's the only thing that ever happened in
the Bible.
It never happens again, that sign.
If thou wilt forgive their sin, I'm speechless.
I don't know what to do.
But if not, blot me out of
thy book which thou hast written.
I lost the chapter here.
What chapter are
we in?
Jacob 32?
32.
No, there's another one somewhere.
Pardon?
Yeah, but there was the other script I
was reading out of earlier when I read
about.
You see, I'm getting old and I forget
the chapter numbers.
Okay, in chapter 32, somebody said, I think
that's right.
Yes, he said unto him, what is thy
name?
And he said, Jacob.
And he said, thy name is no more
Jacob, but Israel.
Thou art a prince with God.
He said, I will not let thee go
unless you bless me.
Now, tell me to yourself, not to me,
what's the greatest blessing that could come in
your life?
An unsaved husband gets saved?
An unsaved child?
Do you think you dare latch on to
that and say, Lord, I'm not letting you
go from tonight?
I'm not going to let you go.
I'm not going to let my son go
to perdition.
I'm not going to let my husband be
lost.
He said, Jacob that cheated his brother is
a despicable character, devious character, destructive character.
And he cheated his brother for his birthright.
And he cheated his brother for his blessing.
And yet God gave it to him.
You see, God can change the order.
In the Old Testament, the eldest son is
supposed to get the best.
But you can't prove to me, nor can
anybody else, that Abraham was the eldest son
of Terah.
And Jacob got the blessing when Esau should
have had it.
And Joseph wasn't the eldest son of his
parents either.
But you see, there's a divine appointment.
Shakespeare said, not that you caught him religiously
in that sense, there is a time in
the affairs of men which, didn't he say,
which if taken at the flood, leads on
to higher things.
But you see, there's an appointment in God's
time.
It could have been a meeting like this
or somewhere else.
There are no accidents with God.
Joseph is put into a pit.
It wasn't an accident the Ishmaelites came past
and lifted him out.
It wasn't an accident that he was sent
to jail.
It wasn't an accident that they put Moses
in a little bulrush.
It wasn't an accident that the princess went
down and saw him.
That was all by a divine appointment.
These are all divine appointments, clouded very often
with our thinking.
I'd like to pray, like Moses.
I can't.
I'd like to.
I hope I will before I die.
I'd like to pray until, by divine strength,
I can put a, for want of a
better word, a squeeze on God, or a
grip, let me put it better.
I can put a grip on God until
he says, Raven, you leave me alone in
that thing.
And I say, Lord, I'm not letting you
go.
I'm hanging on.
I know it's your will.
It's not your time just yet, but it's
going to come to pass.
And I'm staying put.
I'm not being shifted from this.
I said to Brother Dale, I think it
was the other day, Brother Dale, I think
I'd like to live in a cave where
there's no distractions.
And certainly not that abomination called a telephone.
I'd have a, I'd have a courtyard outside
full of lions to keep you all away.
You see, there has to be a determinate,
I say, I don't care how filled with
the Holy Ghost you are.
If you get to know more of world
conditions, a young man told me this week,
a fellow from this very school, he'd been
reading a book by, I think it was
by Lyle, was a fellow from the East.
John Sung.
If you can read it, read it.
It's a fantastic thing.
He's the greatest foreign scholar that ever came
to America.
When he came to America, he could hardly
speak a word of English.
In three and a half years, he learned
English, he learned German, and in one of
his biggest tests, I think, got his PhD
in German.
He got every conceivable degree.
Time magazine wrote him up, Life wrote him
up, all the others wrote him up.
When he got in the South China Sea,
he got all his diplomas and gold things
they'd give him, and he threw them all
overboard.
And he went to China and laid his
life out.
I was preaching in a meeting, there's a
lady playing the organ.
I was going to pass some remarks about
the lady, but I won't, but anyhow.
I said, I noticed while I was talking,
you were weeping.
That's a marvellous story of John Sung.
I gave them a story from a...
Oh, I said, yes.
No, she's the lady who gave me the
story.
I said, have you heard the story before?
She said, not quite like that.
But I'll tell you what I did, Mr.
Raymiel.
I said, what did you do?
I used to play the organ for him
at his revivals.
He was stricken with tuberculosis, he hadn't strength
hardly to stand.
He finished up on his knees, he'd make
the altar call on his knees.
He never did like the boys over there,
they all want an American suit and an
American tie and get dressed up.
He wore a 30 cent shirt tied with
a string on the corner.
He had a lock of hair like Hitler's,
he wouldn't do anything.
And she said, my friend said when he
came home from a revival, if there hadn't
been a breaking, if people hadn't come in
weeping and agony and grief over their sin,
he felt he was a failure.
And he'd go to his bedroom, he'd be
lying on the bed, his little shirt was
stuck to his back and he'd be heaving
like a dog you've chased.
And he'd be groaning for revival.
He didn't live long.
What's the good of living longer?
The other morning he comes to pray with
me and I appreciate him so much and
he said, I talked about the blessing God
gave him and Spencer and Dick last Friday
night, when each of them were anointed with
awesome power, travailing in prayer.
I said, God's got to do something in
Tyler.
If he doesn't, I don't want to live.
And Dale said, everything has to become secondary
or less than that.
This has to be the alpha and the
omega in our praying, to glorify God.
There are 109 churches in the area of
Tyler.
There's not one of them where one person
is saved every week through the year.
Not one of them.
Millions and multiplied millions of dollars in business,
in buildings and yet people are not saved.
Let me give you one classic from history.
There's a book on a man by the
name of Savonarola.
I can't remember now for the life of
me who wrote the book.
Trying to think of the town.
A town called Florence in Italy.
You see a lot of fancy gold, what
they call it, Florentine style.
You see it round mirrors, ladies mirrors and
all this kind of stuff.
It was a time of the Medices, one
of the cruelest groups of aristocrats that ever
ruled in Italy.
And this precious monk, one day had a
revelation of Jesus dying on the cross.
And he pledged he wouldn't move out of
that city, which was governed by a corrupt
priesthood.
The whole nation, as far as I'm concerned,
was just one seething mass of immorality and
sin and shamelessness and drunken orgies and all
the banquets like the Romans used to have.
The papacy threatened him because he was so
outspoken.
The people loved him.
He was outspoken.
He put his finger on all the cancers
in the nation.
He named names.
And he so prevailed with God he said,
I will not let you go unless you
bless my nation.
And despite his scantilessly corrupt court and all
the other power that the devil had, his
headquarters were a hell run in that town
at that time.
And he didn't care about the others.
He went to the altar in the cathedral
and he lay there for hours every day
sobbing.
Nobody could console him.
They'd almost to force him to eat.
They'd almost to force him to drink.
But he'd seen a vision of the lostness
of men.
He'd seen a vision of hell.
He said if men can live in this
corruption what's it going to be like in
eternity forever and ever when they can't go
to their palaces and their mansions and boast
about their wealth and their jewels and all
the rest of it.
The devil has cheated them.
They're caught in a trap.
And he lay there before that altar day
after.
I read that this week.
I'd read the life of Stabner Oliver.
It was a classic life and I can't
remember who wrote it.
But this was a new light I got
on it.
He said he went to that altar day
by day and spent hours.
Didn't care about people, tourists that came in
or priests that came in or who came
in.
If the Pope came in he wouldn't move.
And he would just lay there prostrate on
his face groaning and weeping and crying.
As Rachel cried give me children or I
die.
As John Knox when he was a famous
man in Scotland cried give me Scotland or
I die.
And so Mary Queen of Scots said I
would rather hear an army was marching on
the town than hear that John Knox was
praying.
She was terrified of the prayers of one
man, a queen.
Dear God we don't shake thrones.
I wonder what would happen if God could
get half a dozen seven year olders in
Tyler or even in Dallas.
Oh you say that was early.
Yes that was 1452 times have changed.
Are you telling me sin has changed?
Adultery then isn't adultery now the same as
adultery then.
Lying the same as the lying they had.
Cheating, war, blood, rape.
I'm sick to death of all the apologies
people make as though God's broken down.
As though Jesus still has to go to
a cross or go somewhere and get the
ultimate triumph over the devil.
What we have to do is I hear
people saying Lord defeat the devil.
He defeated him 2000 years ago.
What we have to do is to learn
how to enter into his triumph.
And take some of these areas and go
on record before a holy God.
Don't lie for God's sake don't lie may
strike you down.
And say Lord I would rather die than
see my generation go to hell.
I'd rather fast a day or two days
a week to see God's.
I'm going to pray for Tyler.
You pray for what you like.
I want to see God raise a holy
work there that people will come a hundred
miles to see the mighty power of God
and go out breathless.
And no begging and whining to get people
to an altar either.
Most of the altar calls are to satisfy
the preacher make him feel he's done good.
Well I don't have to satisfy anybody except
God.
I'm not going to try.
When you feel there's some grip.
I was in a small prayer meeting recently
and I thought we quit and someone said
no no no no.
So we took a second spell and it
was beautiful.
If you get into a place of prayer.
As old Daniel Steele I think he was
a Lutheran but he's a marvelous old preacher.
He said if you feel the spirit of
prayer coming on you when you kneel at
the bedside that's an old-fashioned way.
Many of you didn't do that.
If you feel the spirit of prayer forget
all about bread pray.
You can't go to sleep and then say
Lord would you please wake me with a
passion on my soul.
God says come on put some sacrifice into
it.
Put something in it of yourself.
I know people who have prayed.
We had a man in our church and
I'm through with this a man in our
church in Sheffield a fine big husky guy
and God got hold of him one day
and said do you really love me?
You keep saying how much you love me.
You keep saying I want to be like
Jesus.
Do you?
He said well go fast 40 days and
40 nights and he did.
And he kept working all the time.
He's never been the same thing a man
since.
Physically there's a mark on him.
I went to another conference there was a
husky guy and he said I want to
talk to you a minute.
You talked about prayer recently.
I said yes sir I did.
He said well Mr Raven I've just finished
40 days of prayer and fasting.
Where do you go?
To a place in the woods.
He said no to the coal mine where
I work.
He said I work in a seam as
they say.
There's a seam of black coal and it's
less that that's about that height less than
30 inches deep and I have to get
under with a pick.
They put a pad on the shoulder and
with a pick they do it with machinery
now.
And he said I've worked 40 days with
a pick and shovel and I've had nothing
to eat.
I've drunk water water water.
And I get up from the coal mine
I go home and pray and pray and
pray.
I pray while I'm picking away there.
I pray while the men are cursing.
But God gave me the desire of my
heart.
He gave me the vision.
He gave me the passion.
And he said I can't tell you what
it means.
I know I'm a fanatic.
I'm a fool to my wife.
I'm a fool to the relatives.
I'm a fool in my own church.
But he said I have the gratification of
knowing I did the will of God.
This man wrestled he touched God.
Well tell me who in the world is
worth touching if outside of God.
If we can't touch God we touch nobody.
We're touching nothing.
If we touch God we'll touch the devil.
And it's the only way to have power
over the enemy.
I will not let thee go.
He's trying to get away and he can't
get away.
Now the angel is trying to get away
he can't get away.
Wrestling I will not let thee go.
He's tired tired the angel of the covenant
up he can't move.
Moses in the spirit groans and God sitting
on the circle of the earth with all
power and authority says Moses let me alone.
And Moses answers back he said I won't
let you alone.
If you're going to curse these people curse
me as well.
You get the same thing isn't it in
Romans 9 where Paul says I could wish
myself a curse.
Literally the Greek I'll be damned if need
be for this generation.
Now this isn't teaching usually get in class.
I'm not meaning this class or anywhere.
I've said it I'll say it again I'll
say it again I'm tired of mediocrity.
I'm tired of living amongst spiritual dwarfs.
I want to see men who are not
just writing book for money's sake or parading
some big thing to be known.
I want to know men who feel the
hurt of God.
Blaise Pascal was probably the most brilliant man
that ever lived though he was contemporary with
Jonathan Edwards and people say Jonathan Edwards was
the greatest brain America ever had but Blaise
Pascal was there in France and he said
one day the Lord gave me a revelation
of his grief over lost men and he
showed me that right until the end of
time Jesus Christ is still weeping he's still
in full of agony and sorrow for his
church and it's going to be like that
forever.
And yet churches want fun and foolishness.
As I say when are we going to
get serious about being serious?
All the people that take drugs are not
taking them out of a packet.
Some of them are drugged with TV.
Some of them are drugged with business.
Some are drugged with other things.
It makes them insensitive to the center of
the will of God.
Let's be fools.
Paul said I'm fools.
Fool for Christ's sake.
We used to march through the streets in
England with a sign on the front it
says I'm a fool for Christ.
People would laugh.
On the back it said who's fool are
you?
Well do you want to be men of
prayer or just evangelists?
Do you want to be women of prayer
or just nice little housewives and mothers?
You can be both for sure.
This little woman's up at four every morning
now between four and five and I can't
even pray.
He leaves me speechless weeping groaning for my
generation.
Those are the people that will be the
means of saving America not big shop preachers.
You can tell how bankrupt a preacher is
when he prays in the pulpit they say
nothing.
Lord bless us today amen forget it.
A parrot could do better in some churches.
I believe to quote Whitefield if I'm going
to preach on heaven I should live there
for a week before I preach.
If I'm going to preach on hell I
should get soaked in hell for a week
before I preach.
Bring the atmosphere of heaven bring the atmosphere
of hell.
When we do that the house of God
will not be empty.
I don't believe a man can be a
holy ghost preacher and have an empty church.
A little late but we're going to pray.
I said before when we start praying or
maybe we can sing a chorus and if
you want to leave you're free to leave.
I guess we'll pray an hour at least
it's half past nine.
We're not beating the clock but I'm trusting
God will you know what I wish when
I'd been the age of some of you
young guys I could go to a prayer
meeting like this not because I lead it
but because God comes.
I prayed alone in Sherwood forest at nights
and on Sunday mornings when I couldn't find
anybody to pray with.
I read a book about David Brainerd if
he can pray in the forest I can
pray in the forest.
If he didn't want other things I don't
want other things.
As I said five minutes inside eternity we'll
all wish we'd been more powerful in prayer.
We'd all wish we carried bigger burdens.
We'd all wish we hadn't prayed some of
the petty things we've prayed.
I believe there's got to be blood on
our praying and tears on our praying.
I wanted to pray for the Indians again
tonight Spencer when we get going.
A lady called from the Carolinas yes this
this afternoon and asked would we pray.
Her pastor's a godly man and the church
is putting pressure on him.
They're going to take a vote on Sunday
whether to put him out because he stands
for the old paths and the old truths
and it's going to split the church.
She said it might be the best thing.
I said it might you might get rid
of the garbage let them join another church.
But let's pray for this church and believe
God for them.
As some of you know what's the lady
silver-haired lady Lynn Jones she's uh I
talked with her today she's not having too
good a time.
You know she had some brain surgery and
now her eyes her vision's crossed and the
doctor ophthalmologist who I'm going to call him
it says he can't do much that one
eye isn't working at all so she has
one covered and it's very critical that she
gets a healing because of this they won't
keep a job open for her much longer
she works in to first bank and there's
lots of support they can put in then
she has no other income but mainly she
wants God to be glorified in healing her.
Pray for these Indians pray for that church
maybe pray for your own church pray for
your own community pray for your own preacher.
Somebody said if you've been in a church
for five years you've been there too long
you should change it.
I don't believe that and I'll tell you
what I wouldn't listen to a preacher that
doesn't weep and grieve over his people.
I don't care how eloquent he is don't
care how big shot he is.
Why do I expect people to be broken
if the preachers are not broken come on
in God's name be honest.
Okay let's pray thank
you very much