Thank you Lord, you have fallen.
Long ago you fell at Pentecost, and you've
remained down where you always were, in the
hearts of those who received Jesus by you.
So as you said, you are the well
in us, and you're the rivers through us.
So thank you, and we're just along with
you now, and what you're saying, doing, working
among us, every moment of the day, not
only in these sessions, but when we're eating,
and talking, and praying, and praising, and enjoying
together.
Thank you for your living self, Lord Jesus
Christ.
Amen.
Now we're seeking to continue this morning from
where we left off yesterday.
As I say, the only way I know
how to share what God has given me
to share, is by a process of continuity,
moving from one session to another, to another.
I say to you, my usual calling is
not the public ministry like this, I'm usually
more in groups, because I like rap sessions,
I like to get back as much as
I give, and so I welcome anyone to
come and say, hi I'm sure you're wrong,
and I'll say of course I know you
were, but I'll just prove it to you,
we'll just do that later on.
I knew I should get complaints for being
British and too quick, well I can't help
being British, as for being too quick, I
always understood God could do anything, except slow
me down.
So there we are.
Now we were led yesterday to some, what
I understand to be from God's word, some
tremendous facts.
The whole universe is one, because he is
one, and the whole universe is he expressed
in multitudinous forms, one living person through multitudinous
manifestations.
And this further revelation, he's only love, so
everything is love, everything is forms of perfection.
Even if we mess him up, he reforms
into perfection, that's what he came by his
son to do, moving into the ultimate perfection,
but we're able to see perfection now, we're
seeing him with perfect love, in perfect operation,
in all forms, in all ways.
So we saw this as our tremendous basis,
we deal with only one, but because as
the scripture says, he's eternal, immortal, invisible, he
can't be manifested except by a manifested form.
So from eternity, in his own trinity, he
has his own son, who is the manifested
father, the manifested God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
He moves down to our level, that he
can move us up to his level, and
we're able to know the father through the
son.
And as we saw further, he continues to
complete his eternal purposes through his son and
sons.
They become the agents by whom the spirit
reproduces, father, son, spirit.
The spirit brings through the word of faith
of the son, reproduction into being.
This creation was the first we know of.
And the marvel we saw is that it
always had been his purpose, through his son,
there should come into being a family of
sons, who'd level up with his son, fantastic.
Created, leveling up with the creator, and forming
one in a million forms of sons.
Sons are persons, living persons as the father
is a living person, who by their living
personality will express him.
Because of tremendous significance of being on the
manifested level, the agents of manifestation, is that
the eternal one, the universal, is only seen
by its manifested form, it's never seen any
other way.
You never see electricity except by that.
You never see electricity except by heat, you
never see it.
You see it by its form.
You never see the atom, you only see
its forms.
And you never see the living God, except
by his sons.
By his son, and then his sons.
And no other way will this living person
ever be manifested in the world.
That's why Paul said in Romans 8, the
agonising creation waits for the manifestation of the
sons of God, not the son of God,
not the father.
Waits for its deliverance, it should be brought
into the glorious liberty of the children of
God by the manifestation of the sons of
God.
Because the sons are the only means by
which the father manifests himself and reproduces his
own love purposes.
That's a tremendous thing to be a person.
And when, as we saw, our destiny is
to be co-persons of eternity, to be
co-owners, and therefore co-developers, and co
-managers of God's universe.
So it's a very responsible thing, as well
as a very wonderful thing, to be a
person.
And then we further saw that the key
to be a God person is to be
a love person, because that's all he is.
John said the final word when he said
God is love.
That's all he is, nothing else.
Every single thing he is, has, does, is
some form of perfect love.
Now, we said yesterday, we always get out
of tune when we question what kind of
person God is in situations, or why he
does so and so.
When we say, God, you're perfect, what you're
doing is perfect, I can't understand what you're
doing, but it's okay, the light's shining.
Therefore we saw this is the necessary settlement,
the eternal settlement of the character of the
person, the person of whom the whole universe
is in form, is nothing but love.
The nature of him in his own deity
-manifested form, the son, is nothing but love.
That's why we always know what the father's
like, because he saw what the son was
like on earth, thank God.
And therefore the co-sons must be as
spontaneously, uh, the same kind of sons as
the son.
And the son is a spontaneous expression of
the love father.
So he's a lover son, as his father's
a lover father.
And therefore we are in tune, in focus
down here, and for maternity, when we've begun
to be lover people, and learn what it
is to be lover people.
Our trouble is we don't understand who we
are, that's our trouble.
Most of our trouble is misunderstanding.
We are possessing our possessions.
Knowing what it is to be, and operate
as, and affirm we are lover sons on
earth, in preparation for being, that would be
our spontaneous being, because our being then is
a union.
Our being then is God joined to us,
expressed by us, it's spontaneity.
That's our, that's our permanent basis.
So we're spontaneously expressions of him who is
love, he's lover, so we're lovers.
Then we're safe.
Just as the whole universe is safe, because
the father, the God is a safe God,
because he's a lover God.
Kings and rulers and people down here are
not safe when they're, all through history, self
-loving people, so you get chaos.
When the ruler is a lover person, that
which he manages, those who he manages move
into harmony.
So this whole universe will be a harmonious
universe, because he has spontaneously millions of us,
co-lovers, co-manifesters of what he is,
co-developers, whatever that means, with his own
son.
So we saw that the next stage of
fundamental importance is for us to know what
it is to be the person we really
are and be him.
What it is to be a person and
to be that person, and then to function
as that person.
So that's what we're talking about these days.
What is it to be the person, be
that person, and then function as that person.
That's yourself, that's all, and yourself as the
real self.
That's all I was talking about yesterday, that
new man.
Then we saw, we're really only, I'd say,
talking still on foundations this morning.
I shan't actually get on as far as
I'm concerned, the practical application to our daily
lives till about tomorrow, but we're still laying
the foundations.
We saw this, perhaps usually unnoticed fact, that
you can never be a competent person in
anything until you first learn how not to
do it, before we know how to do
it.
Because all life has this strange basis, it's
only manifestable, it's only a conscious fact because
it has two sides to it, because it
has its opposites.
You cannot have light without knowing there's dark.
You can't have sweet without knowing there's bitter.
You can't have yes without knowing there's no.
As I said yesterday, you come here because
you're cocked at no's.
You're yes, cocked at your no's.
You started, no, no, no, I can't, I'm
too busy.
Finally, you say, yes, I will, and your
yes swallows up your no's.
You would only have a strong yes because
you've had a good meal of no's, that's
all.
So life cannot be any other way.
That's the meaning of being, as I say.
So we saw yesterday, we have to say
the living God, a person has conquered the
opposite.
He cannot lie.
If he's a person, he could, unless some
fixation has taken place by which something by
his own free choice is he cannot.
That's what choice does, it fixes you in
the one, the one swallows up the other.
And that's the whole purpose of a person,
to discover why it is to be a
fixed person, and to be that fixed person.
That's why I always love that cry of
the psalmist, oh God, my heart is fixed.
My heart is fixed, I will sing praise.
And we are fixed if we know it
now, if we're redeemed.
We just haven't discovered how fixed we are,
that's all.
So it's phases, phases of rediscovery we need,
that's all.
But now, as I say, a person isn't
fixed in the positive until he's first in
the negative.
That's what training is, that's what graduation is.
Nobody's fixed as a carpenter, or a plumber,
or an electrician, or a doctor, or a
lawyer, until he first says, I don't teach
it that way.
I don't, I don't handle my electrical things
that way.
I don't handle my tools that way.
It becomes fixed with, ah yeah, that's right,
I've settled, I don't do it that way.
In general speaking, he's, he's, he's discarded the
wrong ways.
We all can make mistakes, we humans, and
we all have more to learn, but generally
speaking, we discard the wrong ways, and we're
competent, we're able to handle our situations.
That's being fixed.
Always on the, always on the inner level.
Because to make consciousness, all you are is
a consciousness.
All you are is the spirit which is
I am, all I am is a consciousness.
And all operation is from the consciousness which
is I am, I desire, I know, I
will, all the rest follows.
So everything's your consciousness.
A carpenter doesn't operate by his outer tools,
he operates by his consciousness.
Oh, I know how to use that, his
tools are the agents for his consciousness.
Oh, I know how to do that.
From the knowing comes the operation.
Nothing's ever done from outside, because we're never
outside people.
That's why outside religion is no good.
That's why God has to destroy it.
There's a great deal of good came in
communism by destroying external forms of ritualism.
God has to use negatives to handle positives.
Destroy external forms of outer gods, that's no
good, it is no good either.
It's only when the outer gods become an
inner god is any good.
It's only when the outer Jesus is the
inner Jesus is any good.
Only when the outer world is the inner
world is it any good.
Because I'm only a person of my consciousness.
So on every level of life you operate
not from your tools, not from your outer
knowledge, you operate by that which has become
you, now you are operating from the inside
you, expressing it through your tools and agencies
and so on.
So we saw that the central inner consciousness
of this central being universe fixed is love
and can be nothing else.
Tremendous.
Has its purpose in creating people like himself,
made in his image, spirit, spirit unites his
spirit, possible spirits like himself, who can be
co-fixed with him, and as the Bible
says co-gods with him, or co-operators
with him, in whatever there is to be
done, in whatever there is in the eternal
developments of the universe by his sons, that's
it.
So you see, it's the same as, you
don't become fixed as a carpenter without training,
or fixed as a doctor, or fixed as
a lawyer, or a fixed teacher, we don't
become fixed as a person without training.
We've got to discover personhood and then get
it fixed, or God, in this case, have
it fixed for us, and then only can
we move on confidently from the whom I
am to being who I am, and functioning
as who I am.
That's the history of the human family.
And it's always been in God's purpose.
God wasn't fooled by the sudden discovery about
the devil or fraud, he meant it to
be, he had to be, because we had
to become unhealthily healthy, you had to be
unhealthy before you're healthy, so we had to
be unhealthy sinners before we're healthy saints, and
defeat.
It's all part of eternal purpose.
I proved it to you yesterday, I said
the Bible said he foreordained his son to
be a sacrifice for a lost world before
there was a lost world, so he knew
all about the lost world coming before it
started.
That's the perfect God, you can't fool him,
his heads he wins, tails we lose every
time.
So there we are, praise God.
And so it came in.
So there had to be a Garden of
Eden, there had to be alternative trees, and
that naughty God stuck a serpent in one
of them, rather naughty of him, wasn't it?
He might have left the wrong tree in
the serpent out, just left the right tree,
we all need a bunch of babies.
God doesn't want a bunch of babies who
just know things unconsciously, he wants people who
know consciously who they are and function as
such.
You only know consciously by finding out, that's
why they're the three stages we have to
pass through.
John says we discuss as we go on,
from infancy to adolescence to adulthood, little children,
young men, fathers.
You said a little child is unconscious, a
little child is very precious, but he can't
manage the world.
And so if there'd been one tree, it'd
be useless, we should just be unconscious beings.
Consciousness came by the opposite.
Consciousness came by all yours, Adam and Eve,
all is yours, I'm your father, it's unconscious.
Like a child, automatically receives from his parents,
it's all yours.
But one thing, don't touch that one, had
to be.
And behind the don't touch that one was
this person who did that kind of thing,
Satan.
Now we don't know any much about him
except he's revealed to us that he was
a person who consciously rejected being another lover
and became a self-lover.
We're just told a little about him in
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, those are the
two key passages.
When he was made as probably God's highest
creation.
But as a free person, he was to
be a light bearer, his name was Lucifer,
which is the Latin for bearing light.
He was to be an expression of him
who is a light, which reveals him who
is a love, that's what we are.
Lamps reveal lights.
Now I'll not be there, I'm a free
person, I'm beautiful, I have infinite capacity, I'll
be for myself, in fact I'll kick him
out and take his place.
That's Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.
Ezekiel 28 is his beauty, Isaiah 14 is
his purpose to take God's place.
So he did take God's place as a
false god.
That's the blindness in which we live.
If the light in you is darkness, how
great is that darkness?
We live in light and think it's light
and it's only dark.
That's a self-centred world.
The light within you is darkness, how great
is that darkness?
So self-centredness has become a false light,
where we've been living until we've been disillusioned,
thank God.
So that's what started, and God used him.
Now get this into, Satan is a convenient
agent.
Don't fuss about Satan, thank God for him.
Satan's always God's convenient agent.
God uses him for better purposes.
Whenever you see Satan turn up, say, OK
Satan, you come in one way, I'm going
to watch you go out seven ways now.
Have fun, have faith, don't fuss about Satan,
he's God's convenient agent.
We shall see what useful things God's done
in the world through Satan, and it still
is.
He got you saved through Satan, if Satan
hadn't got you lost, you wouldn't get saved,
would you?
So you'd better get...
So you'd better get in a praise meeting
for Satan.
And this is the first way he used
him, to get man into focus on the
negative.
To get man into focus on the negative.
So he used Satan to endorse Adam and
Eve, we poor men always have followed women
all our lives, we just do what the
women do.
So it starts with Eve, as usual.
You didn't clap that one.
And so Satan got her, oh, this tree
is very nice.
What, this tree is very nice, the tree
I shouldn't have.
Oh, there's something in it you see, I
shouldn't have it, but it's very nice.
Now that's the only way in which we
can discover being persons.
To discover being persons, I've got to discover,
I have appetite, I have sight, I have
mental ability, tremendous.
We, like God, we have tremendous potential.
We have to discover we've got it.
We can only discover it by being tempted
to be something for ourselves.
So it had to come that way.
Had to be somebody who said to us,
hi, you should be able to eat that
tree.
Oh, I'd like to, I've got appetite, I'd
like to taste, look to me to taste,
I've got appetite, come on, let's taste them.
And beautiful, I've never saw beauty before.
Oh, my eyes are open.
Endless beauty.
Of course, for self-reasons, but point is,
they had to discover they had the capacity
of art and science and what comes through
the eye gate, and through what comes through
the flesh.
Oh, the flesh is beautiful, don't run flesh
now, it's only, it's only it's misused is
wrong, it's God's precious agent.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
He didn't come in, he came in the
light, it was a sinful flesh, but he
came in the flesh.
It's only the sinful part of the flesh,
not the flesh which is wrong.
So the advertised fact is a mind.
Satan said, you've got a mind.
Yes, my, I have.
And so they began to discover personality, had
to be.
So they couldn't discover personality except to be
for themselves.
Now, we had to be for ourselves, but
put ourselves back into focus and then be
ourselves on a new level.
That's what life is, to be for yourself
is what it is, in the right, in
the right relationship.
And then you come to be yourself under
new motivation.
And so they had this temptation, and then
they went all the way.
They didn't know much more, it was mainly
ignorance.
You know, God's so beautiful.
God doesn't throw sticks and bombs at his
precious people, he never judged them, he just
told them they're silly, that's all.
He didn't judge them, he judged Satan.
When Adam and Eve fell, it wasn't God
that hid, it was they that hid, God
never hides.
There's no wrath in God, there's no judgment
in God, it's a guilt in us, we
project it onto God.
It wasn't Adam, it wasn't God who hid
in the garden, Adam and Eve hid.
And Adam, God called him out, came in
the cool of the day and called him
out.
And he said he was hiding, God said,
come out you silly fellow, I'll talk to
you.
But he got him out.
He never said one man or woman, he
judged Satan, he said, you're the curse, you
eat dust, you're symbolically, that's spiritual self-service,
that's hell, that's the curse, spiritual self-service.
As for you dear people, you'll have some
sorrow, that's all he offered us, sorrow.
Sorrow is a reaction to suffering.
So he says, things will go wrong, and
those things go wrong will make you feel
uncomfortable, thank God you'll be uncomfortable.
If we weren't first uncomfortable we shouldn't get
comfort in Jesus.
So he said, you'll be made sorrowful, as
all he said, you'll get sorrow because certain
things in life will happen you don't like,
that's all God gave.
He's always on the side of man, the
same time he says, already there's a hidden
seed you can find which is Christ, Christ
was always there.
Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation
of the world, Romans 11, Revelation says, he
was always there.
Like a seed form, so you can find
Christ, Abel found him, probably Adam found him,
Seth found him, they found him, he was
there to be found.
Lots of people find you've found Christ with
men have known to come out the way
we came.
That's the way you see, it's always like
that.
So you see, this tremendous, this world, we
had to go wrong, thoroughly wrong.
We had to become captives of the spirit
of self-centeredness.
You see, humans are captives, humans are manifesters,
we're never anything by ourselves, we're manifesters of
a deity.
That's why the Bible calls us vessels.
The Bible says every human being is a
vessel of wrath, you say wrath or something,
but I say wrath, the best I can
get.
A vessel of wrath or a vessel of
mercy.
The vessel is a container, we are containers
of a God to whom wrath comes, or
we're containers of a God to whom mercy
comes.
The container doesn't change.
All the gospel is change of God's inside,
that's all.
It isn't a change of us, it's a
change of the God that motivates us, that's
all, because we're always God-motivated.
What happened in the fall, we became motivated
by the false God, he didn't make us,
he only stole us, he was only a
thief, we always did belong to God.
Our very being was in God, that's why
people don't know how to respond to God,
thank God they do.
The being of every person, I've been in
a mission in Africa, I know in the
Africans, there's always a spiritual response, everybody, you
around the world, you know about the role
of the world, there's a spirit everywhere, because
we're in his being.
So basically, Satan simply stole us and distorted
us, that's all, but he captures, made us
slaves, and so in that slavery, we went
the self way, the self-centered, self-seeking,
self-gratifying, self-affirming way, and thank God,
gradually, by this way, by this knock and
that knock, we find it doesn't work, we
get disillusioned.
If you're a redeemed person here, you've been
a disillusioned person, haven't you?
It's been a rock-bottom disillusion, you found
that old life's wrong, not outside you, it
helped by being told, being fired inside.
Inside you find, I'm a wrong person, I'm
away from God, I'm in no peace, I'm
living a rotten life, I'm doing rotten things
I shouldn't do, there's something wrong with me,
God have mercy on me.
There isn't a person here, who's been redeemed,
who didn't first say, I'm a wrong person,
have mercy on me.
Not because of outer forms, may have come
through outer forms, but by inner consciousness.
So that's been the whole purpose, thank God,
because we couldn't be right, unless we'd first
been wrong, because we might go to it
again.
You see, if you've been in a thoroughly
wrong way, and you've been torn to pieces
by it, and you go out and say,
I'm not going back there again.
Of course, we may visit when they were
looking, we won't live there again.
Difference, you see what I mean?
Yeah, if you're born again, you will never
go back, you can't go back.
You can't go back, I'll tell you why
later on.
As I say, you may visit when they
were looking, but you won't live there any
longer.
I don't mind paying visits, as long as
I don't live.
I can see my English doesn't get a
course, so you don't get the point, but
it's a pretty good point.
So, you see, if you're a redeemed person,
you've been a basically disillusioned person.
You've had to be wrong, and known you
wrong, and be disgusted with it, and cried
for mercy, and whatever form it may take,
whether towards yourself, towards other people, towards God.
That you, somewhere, if it likes to mean
anything to you, you've got to find the
change.
Now, how can the change take place?
That's what sends us everything in the sun,
the east sun.
Everything.
Because slaves can't redeem slaves.
Slaves can't redeem slaves.
We're a captive race.
Slaves can't receive slaves.
A slave may express a little freedom in
trying to be something else, like we, in
our unsaved days, tried a little to be
good, that didn't make us good, we just
tried and came back where we belonged again.
Slaves have little freedom they can express for
their slaves.
Can't get out.
Slavery.
This has been the eternal purpose of the
father from the eternity, that his son should
be the head of the true race.
The head of the eternal family, the founder,
source, and head brother of the family of
the spirit dimension.
Because the old family is a flesh dimension.
Flesh is good, only misused.
But a misused, precious flesh is to be
redeemed flesh, we'd have redeemed bodies.
But it's been a misused flesh, and so
our flesh, and so our agreement with our
flesh, we've gone these other ways.
So we've been a flesh people, and after
that marvels come.
Look at this universe.
Look at this world.
Marvels come out of fallen men.
Look at the marvels of invention and investigation.
If that comes out of fallen men, what's
got to come out of unfallen men?
When the whole son family is in full
redemption.
So this is the situation.
Now this is where the only person who
could redeem us, was a person who had
a claim on us, who had a basic
relationship with us, and could do something for
us we couldn't do for ourselves.
And the one person who could do that
was our creator.
He who created us, after all we belong
to him, he could do something for us,
and that's the Lord Jesus Christ.
So there's no way in which the human
race could be redeemed from slavery unless there
was one who was our basic creator, created
our spirits and our souls and bodies, who
in some way could represent us and get
us out of our bondage.
That's what Jesus Christ did.
Our history and glory and our songs for
eternity is the lamb that was slain.
The Lord Jesus Christ was crucified and risen.
So that's why, to my mind, the supreme
title for him is the last Adam.
It only comes in that form actually once.
It's implied in Romans 5, it's stated in
Romans 15, in 1 Corinthians 15.
The last Adam.
Why?
Adam's head of a race.
Adam's a progenitor.
We're all reproductions of the flesh Adams, so
we're flesh people.
Came under the slavery that our father had,
for good purposes.
We had to learn the slavery before we
learned the freedom.
That's alright.
But he's the last Adam.
He's taken the place, that was, the first
Adam in the Bible was only called a
figure, only a shadow.
The last Adam's the real Adam.
Spirit is real.
This is figure, this is shadow.
We've got to get out of living on
a shadow relationship to reality, spirit relationship.
This is this one.
He came to bring the human family on
his true spirit dimension, God dimension.
He did that by becoming one of us.
Becoming an ordinary human.
That's why we always preserve the incarnation.
The Bible never says the key to your
faith is the cross.
The key to your faith is did Jesus
Christ come in the flesh?
That's 1 John.
That's the key test of a person.
If he's a believer, he says Jesus Christ,
God's son, became a flesh Christ, a human
being.
Incarnation.
So we're faced with a unique person.
He was us but he wasn't us.
He was a unique son.
So he never touches uniqueness.
He's the creator's son.
We're the creator's sons.
He's the deity's son.
We're the, kind of, I don't know what
to call us, because we move migration onto
the level of brotherhood, I suppose that's the
best I can say.
Now we all know what he did.
He first of all had to prove himself
as a true human.
He had to be hit by all humanity
as a hit.
So he was hit by the devil.
Not only in the 40 days, all the
time.
But the devil kept getting inside him.
You are an inner consciousness, not an outer
person.
Anybody can do anything on the outer.
It's how you take it matters.
We'll talk about that later on.
All life is how you see it and
take it, not how it happens to you.
You manage life because you manage it as
you see it and take it from within.
Because that's all you are.
And so Satan could never get Jesus because
he couldn't get him inside.
When he attempted Jesus, oh no, my father,
he always was a vessel of his father,
not a vessel of wrath, a vessel of
mercy.
He always had the living God inside him.
So he could be hit, Satan could hit
him every way outside, couldn't touch him inside.
But he was a real man and went
through everything we go through.
Then he came to the final end.
We call the final end death.
The real final end is hell.
Don't be too body-minded.
Don't be too much of a body-fusser.
Who cares about your body?
Get a new one quick.
Don't be so busy keeping people on earth.
I aim up to heaven.
In our mission, we always have a congratulation
when someone dies for Jesus.
We sing your dance when people die because
they've gone on to be real people.
We don't say, oh dear, dear, dear.
We say, praise God you've gone, may I
follow you quickly.
So don't be body-fussers.
Be spirit-enjoyers.
And don't take too much fuss about your
body.
Say, praise the Lord anyhow.
As long as the spirit shines out, that's
what matters.
As long as the spirit shines out.
If a person's sick, help them to be
sure of one thing, they're praising Jesus.
If they get praising Jesus, they'll probably get
healed quicker too.
Death, physical death isn't the point.
Destiny is the point.
Death is part of this corruption ended in
death.
That's not the point.
Destiny is the point.
This dies, where does this go?
And that's why the Bible again says we're
spirits.
Because the Bible says there are two ways.
For the unredeemed, the spirit in prison, to
whom Jesus went to preach.
The redeemed, the spirit has just been made
perfect.
Hebrews 12.
So you see, it's destiny.
Now that's seriousness.
That's the seriousness of the blood of Christ.
That's the blood of Christ and the body
of Christ.
That's where they're subdivided in the Lord's Supper.
The blood of Christ and the body of
Christ with two vitally important meanings to them.
The blood of Christ was his own blood.
That's himself.
That person uniquely risked hell for us.
That's where he went.
Suffered on the cross?
I think we make too much of the
sufferings of Christ.
We should see the glory there.
He saw glory in it.
They saw glory and they saw a king
up there.
You see, faith transcends suffering.
Jesus never acted as a sufferer on the
cross.
Think of a person in that agony, considering,
did they mean it?
Isn't that beautiful?
In that agony, say, they didn't mean it,
Father.
Those soldiers didn't know what they were doing.
They didn't mean it.
Forgive them.
Isn't that beautiful?
Isn't that seeing God's beauty in everybody?
Forgive them, Father.
They didn't know what they were doing.
They just did their duty in crucifixion.
It wasn't his crucifixion bothering him.
It was those, that God shouldn't, those people
out there should have their forgiveness.
Isn't that beautiful?
See, it wasn't his physical, he transcends his
physical in the glory.
So I think we, I think we shouldn't
make Good Friday a misery.
We should make it a praise, not the
Easter Sunday.
And because that teaches us, praise in your
sufferings.
That's our glory.
When we're able to praise in our sufferings,
that's our glory.
Know the secret of how to do it.
And so he went, that wasn't the problem.
The problem was, he went to hell.
Now I don't know, but he had to
walk by faith as we did.
And he might, might he well be, he
might have said he might remain there.
See, he represents the whole sins, the products,
the consequences, the sins of the world.
The consequences of the sins of the world
is our guilt, the wrath, the judgment, the
eternal destiny.
That's the point of our sins, the things
we've done.
He bore our sins.
That's not our sin.
That's different.
I'll talk about it in a moment.
It's our sins.
Sins are the product.
Sin is the producing principle.
That's different.
He bore our sins.
And our sins take us through, into guilt,
into judgment, into wrath, into hell.
And the Bible simply says, if you are
fixed in that condition, that's what it is.
That's the blood of Christ.
The blood of Christ was, blood symbolized outpoured
life, that he really did die.
When your blood's gone, you're dead.
So it's a symbol to us that he
really did die.
He didn't die physically.
I mean, he's dead, but physical body died,
he went to hell.
That's the first thing Peter said in the
great speech after Pentecost.
Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell.
So he must have been in hell if
he wasn't going to be left there.
See the point?
Jesus Christ went to hell.
He went where you and I are destined
to go.
That's the risk he took.
I took quite a risk.
He had to walk by faith.
Could it be he'd be left there on
our behalf?
Of course he couldn't be, he didn't belong
there.
Satan had no control over him.
So, as I was saying, a sin race,
with its sin stain, its sin guilt, its
sin loss, its sin judgment, its sin destiny,
all those sins he represented, he came out,
left them behind.
He shut that door of hell for all
who received him.
For the whole human race, the world was
reconciled unto him.
Except they hadn't found out, that's all.
This gospel had been a world gospel.
There's never been a little bit, a few
Christian gospels, but a world gospel.
Let the world through him not be saved.
Reconcile the world unto him.
I love the world mindedness you get in
both the Gospel of John and the Epistle
of John.
And so, in that one act, he wiped
out all that would come to us out
of our guilt, our condemnation, wrath, judgment, don't
have any of it.
You sin by retaining any sense of guilt
or wrath or judgment about you.
Your fast is out of sight.
It's out of God's sight, it's out of
your sight, we'll leave it out of sight.
If it's as far as from the east
is from the west, that's a pretty good
distance, I reckon.
If it's the depths of the sea, they're
trying to find power or something down there,
and they're having a hard work.
The strong terms of God's wiping thing, it's
wiped out.
That's the precious blood of Christ.
Sometimes people sort of squirm at the blood,
they don't understand, they don't mean it.
Like a Mohammedan, I worked among Mohammedans, they
don't understand, they've got a prejudiced idea of
Jesus Christ, so they spit on him.
They're not to blame for that, they don't
understand the perfect Jesus we mean, they've got
distorted images.
So there are some people who sort of
will say they squirm at the blood, they
don't understand the preciousness.
It's a symbol of this God-life, outpoured,
went where I should go, to cut me
off sight, never need go, I never have
the guilt or the wrath or judgment which
belongs there, it's out.
That's the death and resurrection of Jesus on
that level.
The other level is the crucified body.
Now that's very remarkable.
We do not participate in the blood, that's
his blood, we do participate in the body.
That's why in communion it says, you take
communion with the blood of Christ, yes, you
take it recognising it's his blood shed for
you.
You participate in the body, for we being
only one bread, one body, we participate in
the body.
Why?
Because we are that body.
Now that's quite significant, we are that body.
How do I know that we're that body?
The Bible says you were crucified with Christ.
You were buried with him, you were risen
with him, you were ascended with him.
That's all, there's Romans and Colossians and comes
up again and again, Colossians, all those letters.
Now we were there, why?
Because you see, our bodies contain the same
principle.
Sins were the products which came out, the
hates, fears, lies, all these things, for which
we've broken the law, for which there was
a judgment and wrath and all that.
Christ has become the end of the law,
wiped it out, or become the completion of
the law, shall we say, so that we'll
know what that left.
Now, that's not our problem.
Our problem isn't the product, it's the producer.
Our problem is the motivation which causes me
to be self-centred in this.
Out of my self-centredness comes my hates
and my fears and my lusts and so
on, they're products.
What matters is this wretched motivation in the
body.
Now, that's sin in the body.
Sin is the principle of self-centredness, it's
really another term for Satan.
Love is, another term for love is God,
of course, it's the principle of being, which
is God's being.
And sin, self-centredness, is the principle of
false being, which is Satan's being.
So, you may speak of the spirit, it
speaks in Ephesians 2, the spirit of the
power of the air within us, speaks in
1 John, the spirit in air.
Call him sin, call him spirit, it doesn't
matter.
That's the person who's possessed us through the
fall.
We are vessels with a wrong owner in
us.
That owner went out in the death and
resurrection of the body of Jesus.
See, the body contains the owner.
Now, that body represents us.
We were crucified, we were died with him,
we were buried.
A dead body has no spirit in it.
And when that dead body lay there, it
says we were buried with him, there was
no longer left the spirit of self-centredness
which had grabbed us and enslaved us.
That's the completion.
Out that went.
It's that empty dead body, put to death
in the flesh, quickened by the spirit in
1 Peter 3.
Now, into that dead body came a new
spirit, his the fixation of the spirit of
self-giving love, taking the place of the
spirit of self-loving love.
That's the gospel.
That both removes what should come to us
as a consequence of our sin life, wrath,
judgment, so and so and so, and it
changes our condition, which Roland was bringing out
so beautifully yesterday.
It changes our condition.
We put off the old man, put on
the new man.
We've got to understand a little more what
that means.
So, the gospel means out goes the hell
and the judgment and the fear of death
and condemnation and all that wretched stuff, not
there.
We become precious in God's sight.
See yourself, you're perfectly precious.
God delights in you.
I have a laugh, I always think God
delights in me.
He says he does, so I suppose he
does.
And when I look around at you, I
say, well, he makes pretty poor choices somehow,
but that's his business, not mine.
If he loves you, okay, I love you
too.
So there he has, he's precious, precious.
Don't downgrade yourself.
When you cease to downgrade yourself, you don't
downgrade your neighbour.
Upgrade yourself, you're precious, every bit of you
is precious.
Cut out, taken out, that old spirit out
and the stains gone in Jesus Christ, raised
again.
Now there are, now we come back to
ourselves.
We begin to belittle ourselves.
There are certain phases of consciousness which have
to become us.
Like any person being educated in a profession,
you learn phases, oh I've got it, I
know I do it, I know I do
it.
That's consciousness.
There are certain phases.
The Bible puts them as a threefold set.
I've quoted you.
The Bible says you start as a kid,
little children, you go on to an adolescent
who's found his own abilities, that's the firmament
of adolescence, a young man, you go on
to fatherhood when you're reproducing, bringing out to
the world.
There are three phases.
Crucifixion, resurrection, ascension.
Romans 1-5, Romans 6-8, Romans 9
-16, and all these things all through the
Bible.
So now we're back on a person.
Now, the royalty of a person is my
ability to choose.
Now the simplest word for choice is faith.
It's unfortunate, and that's why new translations are
good, that we tighten up religious words and
make them have religious connotations.
So we've put little things in a little
framework.
Faith is a universal action of the personality.
It's the only action of the personality.
The only basic action of you is faith.
Because faith isn't some religious idea.
Faith is your inner capacity for choice, with
the heart man believes.
With the mind you can accept, you've got
to stop there, I agree there, but you
don't operate on your mind.
You operate on your inner self, which really,
we use the word choose, which puts yourself
to something.
That's faith, you put yourself to something.
Look here, you didn't come here by your
thinking.
You had to have thoughts, you were invited,
and here's the place and so on.
What did you do?
You came because you chose.
You said, I'll come.
You didn't come here by your body, you
came here by your choice.
Your automobile or your airplane just bought your
faith, that's all.
Because faith is a tremendous, it's the capacity
for choice, but that's the moment of choice,
that's the word of faith.
You say, I'll do that, I'll take that,
I'll go there.
All life is that.
A word is a person in action.
A word is a person in action, a
word of faith.
Everything you do comes out of a word.
And that becomes an act on earth and
you take it.
And the law of faith is that's how
you get experience.
Alright, now here's some food.
Well you believe in it, you see it,
that's alright, that doesn't do it.
That isn't good enough, you believe it and
see it.
I think we're pretty eager in going farther
over here and lining up and taking it,
rather enjoy it, don't we?
We take it.
You don't take it with your body, you
take it because you choose to take it.
Oh, I'm going to have that.
Inwardly you've chosen, you've got to take this.
Now what happens, poor you, you've got to
take what you take.
If you have that tummy ache, it's your
fault for eating too much, that's all.
Your food takes you.
The law of experience is the takers tooken.
What you take, takes you.
All life is that.
All life is you're taken over by that
which you take.
You come here, well you take, instead of
staying at home or going to some other
job, you take coming here.
Alright, you take coming, I'll come, you come,
it's got you now.
You're here, stuck here for a few more
days.
Of course, the basic idea is because you
freely choose, you like to be taken over.
So everyone's a slave to their choices.
Because you freely choose, you're meant to like
it.
Doesn't always work out quite like that on
earth, you're meant to.
So you enjoy being here because you chose
to, it's taken you over.
So all, practically or eternally, is being, is
freely through your mind, coming, no, no, I'm
taking it, it's available, it's desirable, I hope
it's reliable.
You can't prove it's reliable until you've experienced
it.
That's where experience comes in.
You say, it's available, I've been invited here,
it's desirable, oh, I'd like to come.
Reliable, I guess they'll be there.
Then you move.
I'll come.
And so it's your inner self that's brought
by outer form.
And then your self becomes caught up by
what you are here.
You enter into the system, the timetables, everything
else, and move in.
And because you freely do it, you're meant
to enjoy it.
Thank God, I think most of us do
enjoy it down here.
You're a nice little slave here for five
days, so behave yourself as such.
Caught up by what we are.
God's a slave because he can't lie.
He's caught up by love.
And I guess he enjoys it.
Everybody's a slave to what they choose.
This is the royalty of a person.
God or man.
That's your royalty.
Your ability to choose and you're being fixed
by what you choose.
Now, that may be often temporary.
You take food, you forget in an hour
or two.
You take being here, you forget in five
days' time.
You won't forget what you've got, I hope,
but you forget how you've been here.
All life has those temporary takings.
You take a profession, it takes you over.
You can change your profession, but mainly, if
you learn the profession, you're kept on that
line probably.
You become a mother in a family, you're
taken over by the responsibilities and the love
of bringing up a family and so on,
whatever form it takes.
So, you see, a person is a person
who freely takes lots of things, lots of
things.
Temporarily or for longer times, you're taking over
what you take.
Now, a supreme moment in your human history,
beyond which, higher than which we'll never go,
is when you and I voluntarily transferred our
capacity for taking from things material to a
person who's immaterial, from matter to spirit.
Now, you see, even your religion could matter.
That's why I say this book can't save
you until it becomes the person inside you.
It can only lead you.
You can't save by a book.
You'll save by receiving a person through the
book and that person becomes you.
You're saved by the person, not the book.
The words I speak are to their spirit,
their life.
Nothing outside you takes you.
That's why outside religion's got to go.
That's why I say it's quite good, in
many ways, that communism blew up false professions
of religion in Russia.
Let's start again.
Communism has shaken us back to proper faith.
We owe that to the devils of communism.
It's shaken us back to find a real
faith instead of a phony externally ritualistic stuff.
I don't say it's the place for some
ritualism, but you know it can eat you
up.
So, you see, you're never held by the
outside.
You're only held by what you are inside.
Nothing otherwise ever holds you, neither this world
nor any other world.
Now then, what did we do in this
moment of choice?
You've become, somewhere or another, disillusioned with your
present condition.
That's the word, probably, of the gospel, or
perhaps the example of other people.
You felt they got something you hadn't got.
You were missing something.
There was a defeat and a hate and
a fear and a strain and wrong things
in your life, whatever form it took.
You felt you were a wrong person somewhere,
up from God somewhere.
Now, that was your disturbed background.
Now, that disturbed your faith.
Up to that time, you tried to have
a faith in your present condition.
You tried to laugh it off.
We try to laugh life off.
Laugh's fun, but often behind laugh is a
hollow ring.
Underneath is a torn-up purse inside.
You try to laugh it off.
Or you try to philosophise it off.
Oh, I don't believe that stuff.
Or you've tried to have some outer religion.
Oh, I'm a church person.
I've been baptised and so on.
You try, but all that's outer stuff.
And somehow that's not settled you.
That's not satisfying you.
That's why you're here.
Something's wrong.
So, you've had a disillusioned faith.
You've had a material faith on a philosophy,
on a religion, or maybe on your good
works, on your good resolutions, or on your
bad works, and the bad way you've been,
and the wrong things, all that.
That's been that upon which your faith has
centred.
Now, that's been shaken up.
That's not good enough.
Well, where else can I believe?
Now, this is the critical moment.
When you turn to the Jesus Christ, Jesus
of the Bible, that's why we have the
Word of God.
That's why we have the Gospel.
That's why we have Witness, to show us
Him, the Son who became one of us,
and then went through a process of redemption.
We needn't understand all of it when we
first come to Him, and come up again.
We have this person.
The critical moment is, you try and solve
your faith not to crucify Jesus, but to
risen Jesus.
You see, crucifixion is history.
Anybody can believe a crucified Jesus just in
history.
You can't believe a risen Jesus in history.
That's beyond history.
That's the new dimension.
The risen Jesus is a spirit dimension.
And you're never saved just by seeing a
Christ who died.
Well, you may in England or so, but
I mean, generally speaking, you're not saved by
believing a Christ who died, you're saved by
receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as alive.
And that means you've moved into the spirit
dimension.
You've dared now, for the first time in
your human history, to attach your inability of
choice, the one you can't see, can't face,
can't touch, can't hear, but something in you
says to you, this is the one.
This is the Son of God, died for
me, rose again, loves me, accepts me, gives
me, puts me in the family of God.
This is what I receive.
So faith means, somewhere along the line, you've
consciously related yourself to this one who did
die, who does live, and you've moved in
to relate yourself to a person amongst the
two dimensions, which is the spirit dimension, not
the earthly.
Now, the law of faith, the principle of
faith, always has the operation, you experience and
you take no note of what you take.
What you take, takes you.
You move in, it takes you, and you
experience it, it takes you, whether temporally or
permanently.
Now, this is the consequence.
Now, this is the first time, up to
that time, your material faith has produced your
material results.
You've taken food, there's the food.
Take a chair, there's the chair.
Take here, here you are.
So you get material evidences of your faith.
This is immaterial.
You're now believing in a person you can't
see, you can't feel, you can't touch, you
can't hear, in that sense.
The words of God can only guide you.
You're receiving him.
Now, the material you get into, is the
witness inside you, yes, he does love me.
Yes, he is my father.
Now, that's the first great reality we have
in eternity.
Consciousness is reality.
And if you're a born again person, that's
come into your heart, well, he does love
me.
God is my father.
Jesus is my saviour.
He did shed his blood for me.
He is my lord.
A new level of thrill has come into
you.
A level of light.
You see, light isn't this.
This is the external form.
God is light.
Light's a person.
These are forms of light by which things
are materialised.
Everything is materialised light.
He is the light.
Now, with our eyes, we see light in
certain form.
With our ears, we hear that light comes
in sound form and light comes in atomic
form, we touch it.
So you touch the outbreaks of light outwardly
in all those forms.
When you're born again, you'll come in touch
with him who is light and inwardly you're
conscious.
Now, real light is inspiration.
Real life, oh, that's it.
If you're born again, somehow I saw in
you, Jesus does love me.
He's my saviour.
Somehow, I can't prove a thing, but somewhere
inside me, I know he's my saviour.
He's, all my past is gone.
I belong to him.
He belongs to me.
God's my father.
A thrill has come to you.
True light is inspiration and ecstasy.
And every born again person is in a
permanent inner ecstasy, which may take out of
fun, but the ecstasy is there whether the
outer fun is there or not.
Because that's light.
True light is a person.
And we are part of that person.
We are the light.
We've come into union with him who is
light, and in fact, oh, that's it.
How well I know the day, sir.
Oh, that's it.
I've been brought up a church foe, but
the moment came, I had to receive him
as a personal saviour.
When I asked him to forgive my sins,
meaning it, oh, that's what the blood means,
light.
I heard about the blood across all my
church days.
Oh, that's what it means.
I saw.
Oh, I don't go to hell then because
of that precious blood.
Now, Jesus has come real to me in
my consciousness.
God's my father.
I was in the middle of the football
season as a young man then.
I well remember saying, oh, that's emotion.
We English are always afraid of emotion.
Oh, that's emotion.
It'll go tomorrow.
First thing when I woke up next morning,
Jesus is my saviour.
God's my father.
I'm still there after millions of years.
This is a permanent thing.
Light is inspiration and ecstasy.
Now, that's it.
If you're a born again person, you've been
taken, not you took.
In your need you took him, he took
you.
And you're born again, not because you say,
I hold him, but somehow it's at ease.
I don't know how he loves me.
I don't know how he's forgiven me.
I don't know how he's my saviour.
Something's happened in you which has settled.
That's a permanent consciousness.
You'll die for that one.
You'll burn for that one.
Because this is the new spirit reality.
And you moved into the new spirit dimension.
Now, the last thing I'm saying, and then
I'll have to move on to the next
tomorrow, is this.
The evidences, there are two evidences, which can
be handled by as you like.
They're peace and love.
They both come in the Romans 5 chapter,
which explains what you get when you've received
Jesus.
Peace means, if you're born again, oh, there's
nothing, that fear's gone.
I'm not afraid of my sins and hell.
I'm not afraid.
Somehow it's right with God, peace.
Peace with God's our Lord Jesus Christ.
If you're born again person has come into
you, the peace of God has somehow settled
you up.
You're happy because God's your Father and you're
at peace with God.
That's your inner experience.
That's the first fruit of the new birth.
The other, I'd say, more important fruit is
you can't help it, you begin to love.
You cannot help it.
It's not you loving.
Your love by itself is self-loving self.
But into you has come the spirit of
love.
What happens?
Romans 5 tells us, it says, for God's
love, God's love, not yours, is shed abroad
in your heart by the Holy Spirit given
to us, and you can't help beginning to
love.
And every born again person is a lover.
You can't help it.
Because the revelation of Christ in you, you
can't, oh, I can't help loving him.
You think you're loving him, it isn't.
It's his love begun to operate in you.
You begin to love Christ with his own
love.
You can't help it.
Life is spontaneous.
It isn't, oh, I've got to do it.
You can't help it.
You're a driven poor thing.
You're a poor driven slave.
I've been trying to wriggle out for 40
years and can't wriggle out anyhow.
Once you're caught, there's no escape.
You see?
Now that's the proof.
You've become a lover.
Now you don't know much about it yet,
but you've begun to be a lover son.