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Hello, this is Brother Denny.

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Okay, we're going to continue on with the

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subject of discipline.

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I am going to get very practical in

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this next session.

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Again, the title of this message is A

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Sacred Exercise.

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A Sacred Exercise.

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I don't know if you've ever looked at

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spanking that way, but I hope to convince

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you this evening that it is indeed one

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of the most sacred exercises that you can

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do.

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So I want to get practical in this

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session as we continue to look at the

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principle of chastisement in the Bible.

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I'm very burdened about how parents spank their

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children.

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Many have carried the principles of discipline to

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extremes, and I hurt over it.

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This is one of the major areas that

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motivated me to preach the series on the

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home over again.

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I have heard some stories that make me

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weep, and I realize that somehow some people

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are grabbing one tape on disciplining children and

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thinking this is the answer to every woe

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in my home.

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And it's not.

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I tell you it's not.

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And so I'm very burdened that we understand

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this subject properly.

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I fear that some will lose their children,

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having them taken away from them, because they're

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carrying this principle to extremes.

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That's my burden.

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I desire to give a balanced view of

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loving discipline and call parents to face some

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of their own needs rather than always turn

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to the rod to change the child.

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If you are a parent who lives in

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the flesh and not in the spirit most

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of the time, this is not good.

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If you are a parent who is plagued

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with discouragement as the hours go by in

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your day, this is not good.

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If you are a parent who is full

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of bitterness and anger, and you live your

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days with all of that seething inside of

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you, this is not good.

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If you are a parent who hates yourself

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and you think you're trash and you're good

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for nothing, this is not good.

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These are major needs in your life, and

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you need help.

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You need help.

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Spanking is a sacred exercise.

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It is one of the most spiritual aspects

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of child training.

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It is one of the most spiritual aspects

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of child training.

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If you are in such a state as

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I described just a moment ago, your child

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is affected by your state of being.

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To try and correct it out of them

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with a rod in the condition that you

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are in is an utter tragedy and a

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gross perversion of the truth.

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This happens all the time.

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Just imagine how it is.

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Here we have somebody with many deep needs

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in their life.

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They're trying to be spiritual, but they're not

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walking with God.

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They want to do what's right, but things

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aren't going well with them.

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They struggle with bitterness and anger.

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How do you think that shakes out when

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they relate with their children?

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They begin to see their children through the

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eyes of their bitterness and their anger.

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They begin to spank them that way, and

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all kinds of confusion sets in, and it

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does not come out right.

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I am not saying don't spank your children.

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I am saying out of sincere love, get

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help for yourself.

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Then rise up in the free flow of

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the grace of God and lovingly spank your

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children.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I'm not saying this to scare you away

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so you won't spank your children.

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I'm saying it so that you out of

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love will say, I must do something with

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my own heart.

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It is not right to whip it all

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out of your children when you are a

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mess on the inside.

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It's not right.

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I am going to attempt to explain how

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we spank our children in this session.

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This is a tender subject to me, and

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I have many sweet memories to draw from.

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That's why I call it sacred, because it

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is holy, and it ought to be sanctified

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with the presence of the living God every

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time you do it.

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Remember how I described God and I building

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a house a couple sessions back there?

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You know, His hand on my hand?

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Well, this is one of those sacred times

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when God puts His hand on my hand

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and we both spank our children, our children,

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His and mine.

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It is not easy thing to spank a

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child.

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It's not fun.

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I admit that.

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I get no kick out of it whatsoever.

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In fact, because there is a tender love

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between us, that makes it even harder to

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do.

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But for true love, we do what is

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right.

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Spanking is given in the context of a

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sweet flow of love between parent and child.

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This alone will take care of most of

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these perversions that I've mentioned already.

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Just that flow of love.

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You know, people come to me and say,

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Brother Denny, what about this?

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And what about this?

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And how do you know this?

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And how do you know that?

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You know?

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You know what the answer to that is?

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You need to be clear with God and

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full of love for your child.

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You'll know what to do.

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God will give you the wisdom.

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I searched my heart for a verse that

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best expresses how I feel when I think

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about this whole subject of spanking my children,

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my own children.

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And this is the verse that God gave

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me in Hebrews chapter 12 and verse 11.

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Listen to this verse.

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Now, no chastening for the present seemeth to

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be joyous.

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It's not joyous, but grievous, grievous to the

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child and grievous to the parent.

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It's grievous.

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Nevertheless, afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of

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righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

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That takes this sad joy and explains it

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so clearly from my own heart.

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It is sad.

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It's a grievous thing.

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But yet it brings forth beautiful, peaceable fruit.

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And therefore, we find some joy in doing

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what is right in the sight of God.

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We take 15 to 20 minutes to spank

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one of our children.

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That may seem like a long time to

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you.

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You may say, well, brother, I don't have

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that much time to spank my child.

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Well, I want to encourage you.

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If you will practice this holy task and

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do it the way that I'm going to

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describe to you, you will not have to

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do it as often.

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I promise you, you will not have to

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do it as often.

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Step into the water.

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Try it.

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You'll see.

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There are times when a short discipline is

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in order.

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I agree with that.

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But if a parent consistently just grabs the

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child and gives them a few frustrated swats,

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you will be giving them swats many, many

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times a day and every day.

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There is a better way.

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And God has it.

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The next point.

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Never spank the children in anger.

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Never.

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I mean that.

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We do not spank the children in anger.

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This is a grave mistake, brothers and sisters.

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It is not allowed.

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It is not allowed.

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Just like drinking whiskey is not allowed.

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Just like smoking cigarettes is not allowed.

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It is not allowed.

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I pray that God will put a holy

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conscience in us that will never allow us

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to spank our children in anger again.

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Many times parents come to me at meetings

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and open their hearts up to me.

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You know, in innocence, they come and they

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say, Brother Denny, pray for me.

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I listen to your tape and, you know,

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I still have a problem with anger.

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I'm still spanking the children with anger.

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But we're working on it.

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You know, pray for me.

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You know, and I tell the dear person

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when they come, I tell them, oh, oh,

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my dear person, you can't do that.

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You can't ever do that again.

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I mean, the way I look at it,

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that person may as well come up and

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say, Brother Denny, I just want to let

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you know I'm kind of having a problem

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with adultery.

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I'm working on it.

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Please pray for me.

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But I'm still doing it.

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But we're trying.

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I mean, what would you say to somebody

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who said those words to you?

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You tell them, get on your knees and

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repent right now.

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Don't get off your knees until you know

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that God has dealt with the adultery in

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your heart.

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And that's how I believe we need to

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look at this whole matter of spanking our

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children in anger.

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Don't spank your children in anger.

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You need help if you're doing that.

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You desperately need help.

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I pray that God would draw a line

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in your conscience, just like your conscience says,

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I will not steal.

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And we don't, do we?

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My conscience says, I don't drink whiskey.

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And I don't.

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No questions.

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No problem.

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I will not spank my children in anger.

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That's the bottom line.

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Strong words.

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I know they're strong words.

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But just think with me.

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What is happening to your children while you're

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playing around with it and trying to do

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better?

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What is happening to your children?

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Do whatever you have to do to get

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free of this devastating plague.

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You know, the laws of our land are

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changing.

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And some of us are going to be

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forced to deal with our anger or we

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will lose our children.

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Many of the child abuse cases are child

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abuse cases because parents spank their children in

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a rage.

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And hit them where they shouldn't have.

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And hit them harder than they should have.

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You must deal with your anger.

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For the sake of God, who is being

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terribly misrepresented.

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And for the sake of your children, who

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are being warped by your spanking them in

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anger.

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Please get some help for your anger.

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You don't have to be angry.

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God can deliver you.

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Jesus is a deliverer, my dear friends.

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You can be delivered from that.

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You never have to get angry again.

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Where's the power of God?

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You can be delivered, I'm telling you.

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And look back and say, I never get

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angry.

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Hallelujah!

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That's right.

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That's how it really is.

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Praise God.

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Until you get free from this spirit of

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anger.

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And I'm telling you, with some of you,

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it is a spirit of anger.

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Not just anger problem.

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Until you get that thing taken care of.

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Whatever it is.

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Send the child away to a room to

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wait.

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Let yourself calm down a bit.

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Don't go into that room until your heart

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is calm.

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And then you go in there and you

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lovingly spank your child.

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I plead with you.

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In Jesus name.

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What is our view on chastisement?

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Let's consider that just a little bit here.

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Many parents are missing the whole concept of

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chastisement.

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It is not judgment meted out for doing

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wrong.

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It is correction for wrong with the hope

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of future good.

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There's a big difference between the two of

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those.

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A big difference.

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Judgment being meted out for wrongdoing.

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Or correction with hope for future good.

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Conduct and godly character.

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You look at it and see why God

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spanks us.

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Why?

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He wants to produce peaceable fruit of righteousness

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in our lives.

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That's why God is spanking us.

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He's not meting out punishment on us.

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He's our father.

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Some of us have a wrong view of

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chastisement.

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If we are meting out judgment and punishment,

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we feel more justified to be angry.

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You know?

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You've been wrong and you're going to get

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it now.

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I'm the one that's supposed to bring judgment

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upon you for what you've done.

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And you're going to get it.

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Oh, put those words far away from your

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heart and your vocabulary.

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But we feel more justified that way if

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we have this punishment mentality.

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I've got to met out judgment.

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My child was wrong.

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We feel more justified to be angry.

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Right?

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God hates sin.

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Right?

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Yeah, well, aren't you glad that God doesn't

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deal with you that way when you sit?

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Think about it.

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Think about it.

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I'm glad God doesn't deal with me like

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that.

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Many parents have this false concept that it's

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alright to walk into the room with fire

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in their eyes, a paddle in their hand,

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a loud voice speaking words of condemnation and

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judgment.

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And I feel that is wrong.

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That is not how you spank a child.

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But many think that's right.

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I've heard teachers say those kind of things.

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I've heard teachers say, Don't give them any

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comfort.

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They've been bad.

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Let them have it.

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Well, you may be saying by now, Brother,

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I can't do it.

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I can't do it.

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I just can't.

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Well, you're right.

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You can't.

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That's why you need to be so yielded

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to God that God can put his hand

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upon your hand and you'll be able to

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do it right.

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We can't do this except we'd be filled

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with God.

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Your children are sinners.

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I want to make this point.

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Your children are going to fail.

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Plan on it.

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Expect it to happen so you don't lose

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it when they do something wrong.

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You know how parents can be sometimes.

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Plan on it.

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They're going to fail.

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God has placed them under our care because

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they need help.

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Amen.

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That's why he has them in our homes.

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Because they need help.

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Sometimes I think we think they're supposed to

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be saints.

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No.

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God has placed them in our care so

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that they can be nurtured, so they can

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be trained, so they can be guided, so

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they can be disciplined, so they can be

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led someday to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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And get a new heart.

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Amen.

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That's why God has put them in our

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care.

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Somehow I think we got the thing mixed

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up.

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We get upset at them when they do

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something wrong.

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Grab them by the scruff of the neck.

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You know, why did you do that?

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Don't you know?

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We don't understand what's going on.

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That's not how we should be looking at

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it.

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When the children fail, I see it as

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an opportunity to train them in character.

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It is time to have a lesson.

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Only this one has some pain in it.

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It's just another one of the lessons of

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training children.

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Many times we parents get frustrated with our

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children because of our own pride of what

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other people will think when our children do

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something wrong.

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I'm afraid that the children get the brunt

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of that more than what we would like

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to admit.

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We have had to resist this temptation as

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I became known as the man who preaches

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on the godly home.

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The expectations of the people can be difficult

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to live with.

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But my children are just like yours.

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They make mistakes.

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They do things wrong.

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They do dumb things sometimes.

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No big deal.

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That's why they're in my home.

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So that I can train all those things

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out of them.

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Let's look at how I spank the children.

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I try to spank the children in the

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same manner that God spanks me.

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That seems right, doesn't it?

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00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:46,560
How does God spank me?

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How does God spank you?

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Does He grab you by the scruff of

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the neck and yell at you when you've

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done something wrong?

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Does He spank you in anger with a

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scowl on His face?

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We all know the answer to these questions.

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That's not how God deals with us.

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No.

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When the Father spanks us, it's mercy and

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peace are met together.

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Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

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That is the nature of our God.

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And that's how God deals with us when

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He spanks us.

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Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

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Truth and mercy have come together in the

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Father to chastise me when I've done something

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wrong.

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And He wants to direct my life in

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a better way.

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It's mercy and it's truth, brothers and sisters.

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He calmly reveals a need in our life

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and He picks us up in the comfort

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of His almighty hands and arms and gives

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us a spanking.

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It's painful, for sure.

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But we do not doubt His love and

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concern for us.

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During this time, He is instructing us on

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the way that we should go and how

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we have grieved Him.

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And during this time, He affirms us in

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His love and we are grateful to Him

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when He gets done, aren't we?

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And the reason why we're grateful is because

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that's how He deals with us.

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It is love all the way, brothers and

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sisters.

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Think about the times when God put you

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on His knees.

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He was overflowing love all over you while

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you were getting a spanking.

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Sure, it hurts.

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Sure, you may even have cried, but you

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never doubted His love one moment.

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And when God got done with you, the

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clearing in your heart, the freedom that you

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received, the beautiful fruit of righteousness that you

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got out of it, you reached up and

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kissed His hand, didn't you?

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My dear brothers and sisters, God wants us

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to learn to spank like that, that our

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children, not by our promptings, but by the

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joy and the blessing that they got out

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of it for themselves, they will reach up

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and kiss our hands also.

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I do believe that's where God wants us

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to go.

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Let us seek to be like God in

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this area.

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When one of our children transgresses our law,

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we calmly inform them that they have done

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wrong and that they are going to get

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a spanking.

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We do not raise our voice.

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We do not raise our voice.

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Raising your voice does not gain you any

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authority at all.

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In fact, you lose authority every time you

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raise your voice in your house.

531
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Every time you think you're going to be

532
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heard and things are going to go right,

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if you let them have it with your

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words, you are losing authority every time.

535
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We do not raise our voice.

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Oh, how well you would establish your authority

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if you would give one verbal correction and

538
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then gently give a spanking if that correction

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is not heeded.

540
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,780
You would establish your authority in your home

541
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:06,720
like some of you probably have never known.

542
00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:08,540
And it's easy.

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00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:12,460
A simple, calm word.

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00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,940
My son, my daughter, you have done wrong.

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Go to your room.

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You're going to have a spanking.

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No fuss.

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00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:23,060
No muss.

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00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,520
No carrying on.

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No screaming.

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No grabbing by the scruff of the neck.

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No scolding.

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Just a very calm.

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You have done wrong.

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00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:33,400
Go to your room.

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You're going to have a spanking.

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00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,640
As the child goes to their room, I

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reach for the Bible and the rod.

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That's a good combination, by the way.

560
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,960
The Bible and the rod.

561
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,740
We need both in order to give a

562
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:46,440
proper spanking.

563
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,100
The Bible to instruct them with and the

564
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,440
rod to spank them with.

565
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,980
Having a Bible in your hand will sanctify

566
00:22:53,980 --> 00:22:55,960
what you are about to do.

567
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,920
Know this.

568
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,580
It will.

569
00:22:58,620 --> 00:23:01,180
That picture in your child's mind is a

570
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:01,920
good picture.

571
00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,500
For them to see Dad or Mom walk

572
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:06,260
through the door with a Bible in their

573
00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:09,760
hand is telling them a silent message.

574
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,220
God is in this.

575
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,220
As I am walking to the room, I

576
00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:17,020
pray for wisdom.

577
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,980
I cry out to God, just like I

578
00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,280
do when I'm entering into a counseling session

579
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,120
as a pastor.

580
00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:25,420
I bow my heart and cry out to

581
00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:27,700
God and say, God, I don't know how

582
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:29,100
to counsel this person.

583
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,880
Please give me wisdom.

584
00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:32,820
That's what I do on the way to

585
00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:33,280
the room.

586
00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,080
As I get to the room, I find

587
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,960
the child crying.

588
00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:37,940
Right?

589
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,120
How many find the child crying?

590
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,080
I find the child crying.

591
00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:43,780
They don't want to spank him.

592
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,980
It hurts.

593
00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:48,940
I usually start to cry myself when I

594
00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:49,620
walk into the room.

595
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,780
You can do that, you know, Dads.

596
00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:54,260
You can do that.

597
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,700
It's alright to cry when you walk into

598
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:57,100
the room.

599
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,160
In fact, it's scriptural.

600
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,280
Did you know that?

601
00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:04,260
The Bible says, Weep with them that weep.

602
00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:08,360
Bless God, surely we can weep with our

603
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,260
children when they're weeping because they're going to

604
00:24:11,260 --> 00:24:11,960
get a spanking.

605
00:24:12,940 --> 00:24:15,420
Weep with them that weep.

606
00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:20,220
This will sanctify your session tremendously.

607
00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:23,460
As your heart goes out in compassion for

608
00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:28,060
that child, this will sanctify your session tremendously.

609
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,240
It's okay if you cry with them.

610
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,700
You do not have to maintain this austere

611
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:36,400
posture of a judge.

612
00:24:36,940 --> 00:24:40,500
You are a loving father or a loving

613
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:41,140
mother.

614
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,120
You don't have to come in there like

615
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:43,480
this.

616
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,860
I reach out my hands and welcome the

617
00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:49,660
child to come close to me when I

618
00:24:49,660 --> 00:24:51,700
get into the room and I hold them.

619
00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,880
And by the way, you walk into that

620
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,520
room and you get down on your knee

621
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,200
and you put your hands out like this.

622
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520
When that child's crying and they know they're

623
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,740
going to get a spanking and they know

624
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:03,780
they've done wrong, they'll run into your hands.

625
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,200
They'll run there.

626
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,860
I hold them a minute and I let

627
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:08,660
them talk to me.

628
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:10,440
I just let them talk.

629
00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:13,040
They usually say, I'm sorry for what I

630
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,320
did.

631
00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:15,820
They usually say, I love you, Papa.

632
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,760
I know I shouldn't have done what I

633
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,020
did.

634
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,040
And I tell them the same thing.

635
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,160
I tell them, I love you too.

636
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Some people say, don't comfort them when you

637
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,960
go into the room.

638
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,000
Don't say anything nice to them.

639
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,340
That's absolutely wrong.

640
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:32,360
That's that punishment mentality.

641
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,920
I don't believe in that.

642
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,440
I open up my heart and my arms

643
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,900
to them and I take them into my

644
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:38,360
arms.

645
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,060
And I hold them a couple of minutes

646
00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:42,080
and while I'm holding them, I tell them,

647
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:42,920
I love you.

648
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:45,620
You know, Papa's not upset at you.

649
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,340
Papa's not upset.

650
00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:50,140
You are a very dear child to me

651
00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:52,300
and you bring joy to my life most

652
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:52,900
of the time.

653
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,320
I want you to know I'm not upset

654
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560
at you, but you've done something wrong and

655
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,240
you need a spanking.

656
00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:59,420
And because I love you, I'm going to

657
00:25:59,420 --> 00:25:59,900
spank you.

658
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,780
Then we have a time of instruction.

659
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:03,020
That comes next.

660
00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:04,660
We talk about what they have done.

661
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800
We discuss the root issues of why this

662
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,260
happened.

663
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,880
You know, it may be that foolishness was

664
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,440
in their heart for the last two or

665
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,140
three days and you saw it, but nothing

666
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:16,980
really happened that they could be corrected.

667
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,480
So, you don't just correct them because they

668
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,300
made this little thing wrong over here.

669
00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:22,780
You want to go back to the heart

670
00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:23,740
issue, the thing insane.

671
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,760
Now, you remember how foolish you have been

672
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,220
for the last two or three days?

673
00:26:27,860 --> 00:26:28,300
Yeah?

674
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:30,640
Well, that's the reason why you did what

675
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,260
you did today and that's why you're here

676
00:26:32,260 --> 00:26:33,600
to get a spanking right now.

677
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,180
We have a time of instruction that's very

678
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:37,740
important.

679
00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:39,840
God does it with us, doesn't He?

680
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,620
I ask them if they know why they're

681
00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:43,300
getting a spanking.

682
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,920
And I wait on their answer and if

683
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,060
they just say, I've been bad.

684
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:49,500
That's not good enough.

685
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:51,020
We've got to talk about it some more.

686
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,260
They're not getting a spanking just because they've

687
00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:53,820
been bad.

688
00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:55,640
There's an issue here, remember?

689
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,080
We are giving a correction for future conduct

690
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720
so they must understand what went wrong.

691
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,400
So we talk about that.

692
00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:06,960
Instruction time is the key to biblical chastisement.

693
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,140
We will discuss the principle of chastisement so

694
00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:13,580
they clearly understand that God says to do

695
00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:14,020
this.

696
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,800
I instruct them on how they can get

697
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,020
the most benefit out of the spanking if

698
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:22,140
they will yield to it instead of fight

699
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:23,000
against it.

700
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,540
They can get more benefit out of it.

701
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,020
Then I encourage them to pray and ask

702
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:31,600
God to help them get the most out

703
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,600
of this spanking.

704
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,220
You should hear some of the prayers they

705
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:35,580
pray.

706
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:38,560
And by the way, they're smart prayers.

707
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:40,900
If you get more out of your spankings,

708
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,660
you'll get less spankings.

709
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Pray on, little fellow!

710
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Pray on!

711
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:51,140
God, help me to yield my heart to

712
00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:52,000
this spanking!

713
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,360
Do everything inside of me that you're supposed

714
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,080
to do through this chastisement that I'm going

715
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,560
to get.

716
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:02,120
Good prayer, little one!

717
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:03,120
Good prayer!

718
00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:05,640
The child can learn to work with you

719
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,780
on the spanking, and you won't need to

720
00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:09,020
spank them as much.

721
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,240
This is also how you get the child

722
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,080
to come back later and thank you because

723
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,300
they begin to understand what this is all

724
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:16,800
about.

725
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,860
They become educated and learn the blessing of

726
00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:21,220
discipline.

727
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:23,800
Next, we have a time of spanking.

728
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,980
Instruct your child on how to receive a

729
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:28,380
spanking.

730
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520
They can learn to hold still and keep

731
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,080
their hands out of the way.

732
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,120
It is not good if the child is

733
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,700
jumping all over the place.

734
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,000
They get hit in the wrong place.

735
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,440
They get hit on the hand.

736
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,500
It's absolutely crazy.

737
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:45,040
You do not want that.

738
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,320
The child must learn to hold still while

739
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,900
they receive a spanking, and they can.

740
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:54,060
I have much more instruction on this in

741
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:56,880
my book, The Pursuit of Godly Seed, but

742
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,580
I can't go through all of it here

743
00:28:58,580 --> 00:28:59,100
this evening.

744
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,020
I just can't.

745
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,140
With the child holding still, I give them

746
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,360
a thorough spanking.

747
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Chastisement is supposed to hurt.

748
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,480
This is God's design.

749
00:29:11,060 --> 00:29:14,180
Just like chastisement hurts when God gives us

750
00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:17,520
a spanking, chastisement should hurt when we give

751
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,740
our children a spanking.

752
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:21,320
There are things inside of the heart of

753
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,540
that child that will not happen if they

754
00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:26,280
don't get a right kind of a spanking.

755
00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,160
Many questions arise at this point.

756
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,620
How hard?

757
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:31,660
How long?

758
00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:32,880
How many swaps?

759
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,300
How do you know when you're done?

760
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:35,720
And more questions.

761
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,340
I cannot answer all of those here this

762
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:38,620
evening.

763
00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:41,440
God must lead you in these things.

764
00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:43,140
Every child is different.

765
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,700
Like I said again, you must have discernment.

766
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,620
You must be filled with a spirit.

767
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:51,420
You must be filled with a compassion for

768
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:52,060
your child.

769
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,640
And I believe with the combination of those,

770
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:57,960
most of the time, parents will know what

771
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,480
to do.

772
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,460
How hard to spank, how many times to

773
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:04,180
swap, etc., etc., etc.

774
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:05,520
Children are different.

775
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960
There are some children, you can give them

776
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,900
three or four swaps, and I mean they

777
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,480
are absolutely undone.

778
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,840
There are others, they may need more swaps

779
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,240
than that.

780
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,780
We usually spank our children ten times, something

781
00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:18,340
like that.

782
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,920
That's not the issue anyway.

783
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040
But everybody always asks that question, give me

784
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,040
the number, I'll follow exactly what you do.

785
00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:25,460
No, no, no, no.

786
00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:27,200
Walk with God once, will you?

787
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:28,700
Just walk with God.

788
00:30:28,780 --> 00:30:30,200
He will tell you how many times to

789
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,640
swap them.

790
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:33,800
Okay, after the spanking, we have a time

791
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,700
of affirming.

792
00:30:35,540 --> 00:30:38,100
When I have finished the spanking, I fall

793
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:41,020
on my knees next to the child and

794
00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:42,100
weep with them.

795
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:45,580
There are times when I am so overwhelmed,

796
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
I just break down and weep like a

797
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,280
baby.

798
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040
I've had the children put their hand on

799
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960
me to comfort me.

800
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,220
Papa's hurting.

801
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,960
You know, run to his side, you know.

802
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,600
But you know, that's the way it is.

803
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240
It's not fun to spank a child.

804
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,560
It hurts.

805
00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:08,060
It hurts inside to spank a child.

806
00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:12,020
Sometimes I just break down and bawl like

807
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:12,580
a baby.

808
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:15,320
By the way, you should see what it

809
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,940
does to the children when they see you

810
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:17,420
be had.

811
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,080
That does more to cleanse things out of

812
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840
them than the pain on the bottom did.

813
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,620
My father's heart is broken over what I've

814
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:27,220
done wrong.

815
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:29,540
I will not do it again.

816
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,680
See that relationship again?

817
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:34,740
I don't want to break my father's heart.

818
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,440
I will not do it again.

819
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,800
That's much better than I don't want to

820
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,280
get a spanking.

821
00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:39,600
Amen?

822
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,000
Then, we have a prayer.

823
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,640
I have the child pray.

824
00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:46,720
It's usually a very sweet prayer.

825
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,460
They cry their heart out to God over

826
00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:50,960
their need, that which they've done.

827
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,640
And then I pray for them.

828
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,240
It's usually a fervent prayer.

829
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,480
It's usually an intercessory prayer.

830
00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:59,380
My heart is broken.

831
00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:02,220
My heart cries out to God for the

832
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:02,640
child.

833
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,400
And the child hears his father pouring out

834
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000
his heart to God for his needs.

835
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:10,160
This is beautiful.

836
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,180
Then we get up off our knees and

837
00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:14,280
we blow our nose together.

838
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,680
We blow our nose.

839
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,380
Here, my child, come.

840
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Have some Kleenex.

841
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Blow your nose.

842
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,740
I'll blow my nose.

843
00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:24,620
Get all that taken care of.

844
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,300
Then we sit down and we talk again.

845
00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:29,520
Do you understand why Papa did what he

846
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:29,740
did?

847
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,980
Tell me again, why did you get a

848
00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:33,300
spanking?

849
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,420
Do you see that we don't have to

850
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:37,020
come here?

851
00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:40,440
When you see yourself going off this way,

852
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:42,320
if you'll stop yourself, we don't have to

853
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,720
come here.

854
00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:43,300
Do you see that?

855
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,820
Yeah, they understand that.

856
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,480
After we talk a little bit more, then

857
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,260
I just take them in my arms and

858
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,020
I love them and I bless them and

859
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,060
I tell them what a good child they

860
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:54,440
are and how much I love them.

861
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,740
And I tell them, you know, you're a

862
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:58,980
very dear child to me.

863
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:00,960
I'm not mad at you today.

864
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,380
You fill my heart with joy so many

865
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:07,040
times, but you did something wrong, so I

866
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,900
needed to spank you.

867
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:09,820
Do you understand that's why I spanked you?

868
00:33:10,060 --> 00:33:12,580
Yeah, yeah, they understand.

869
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200
It's a time of affirming, a beautiful time

870
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,300
of affirming.

871
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:21,840
Dear parents, this is the kind of spanking

872
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,240
that children need.

873
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:26,640
Sometimes we sing a song, but the whole

874
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
goal at this point is to knit the

875
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,640
heart together in love and make sure that

876
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,120
we are buddies before we leave that room,

877
00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:39,720
to knit the heart together in love.

878
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:41,720
That is the purpose.

879
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,020
This is usually when you get the thank

880
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:47,280
you, either then or at the end of

881
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,040
the day when you put them to bed,

882
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:50,080
you know, you tuck them in.

883
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,460
How many times I've heard a child say,

884
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
when I was tucking them in bed at

885
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,660
night, last few words, you know, they look

886
00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:01,140
at me and say, Papa, thank you for

887
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:02,060
spanking me today.

888
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,540
I just felt so good inside all day

889
00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:05,980
long.

890
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,139
I've known that I needed it for a

891
00:34:08,139 --> 00:34:09,000
couple of days.

892
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:11,000
Thank you for spanking me today.

893
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Oh, sweet words, sweet words, precious sweet words.

894
00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:22,480
Yea, he that spanketh his child, loveth his

895
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,139
child.

896
00:34:23,139 --> 00:34:25,659
And when we begin to look at it

897
00:34:25,659 --> 00:34:28,280
in the way that I've described, yes, we

898
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,620
can look at it and say, I can

899
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:34,239
see how that would build a closer relationship,

900
00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:37,440
not build a wall between my child and

901
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,520
I, but rather even draw us closer together.

902
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,239
Think about it again.

903
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,520
When God spanks you, do you run away

904
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,960
from Him when He is done?

905
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,280
Or do you want to be closer to

906
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,420
Him than you were before?

907
00:34:52,179 --> 00:34:54,560
We all know the answer, every one of

908
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:54,880
us.

909
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,100
I don't run away from God.

910
00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:58,480
I want to be with Him.

911
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,240
He's my Papa.

912
00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,720
He loved me so much, He corrected me.

913
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,760
And the freedom and the joy and the

914
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
peace and the clearing in my heart, I

915
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,500
want to be close to Him.

916
00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:12,460
And that's the way it is with a

917
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:12,760
child.

918
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,820
They just want to hang tight, you know,

919
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,620
all day long.

920
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,820
Are you going to the store?

921
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:17,880
Can I go with you?

922
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,900
Can I go along?

923
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Hmm?

924
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:19,860
Hmm?

925
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:20,240
Hmm?

926
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,460
Doesn't sound like a wall to me.

927
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:23,320
Why?

928
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,980
Because we spank the child with love and

929
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:29,800
compassion.

930
00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:33,620
And because we spank the child out of

931
00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:36,120
the context of a loving relationship.

932
00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:39,240
This is how we need to spank our

933
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:39,620
children.

934
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:42,900
I tell you, I don't think any judge

935
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:44,980
would shake a stick at that.

936
00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:49,120
They're not shaking a stick at that!

937
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,360
They're getting upset about the other.

938
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,780
We must sanctify our own hearts in this

939
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,280
whole thing of spanking our children.

940
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,600
We must get a hold of this.

941
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,660
Spanking children like this is a life-changing

942
00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:10,740
experience for both us and the child.

943
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:14,120
And that is what it's supposed to be.

944
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
A life-changing experience.

945
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,900
Especially when all the other aspects of training

946
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:23,240
are in their place.

947
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,240
You know?

948
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,440
When they're all in their place.

949
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:32,160
The instruction, the care, the directing, the time,

950
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160
the love, the relationship, all those things are

951
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,920
in their place.

952
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,820
That child is basking under the sun-shining

953
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,640
face of their father and mother and in

954
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,460
the midst of that kind of a relationship,

955
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:51,680
yeah, sometimes they do what is wrong.

956
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:55,200
In that kind of a relationship, if you

957
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,280
could just calmly speak to that child and

958
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,880
get them into their room and give them

959
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,920
a spanking like this, miracles would happen.

960
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:09,140
I'm telling you, miracles would happen.

961
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,440
And it's what God wants.

962
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,940
I pray that you will take this example

963
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,760
as a pattern to follow.

964
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,420
That's my prayer.

965
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160
That you will take this as an example

966
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,860
to follow and ponder it enough that it

967
00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:24,740
gets in your heart.

968
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,180
And sit down with Hebrews chapter 12 and

969
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:31,180
read over those verses and ponder how God

970
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:34,120
has spanked you and draw it all together

971
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,060
as a revelation in your own heart and

972
00:37:37,060 --> 00:37:39,740
then implement it into your own home.

973
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:43,660
I guarantee you, you will get good results.

974
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,860
You will not have to call me on

975
00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:48,660
the telephone and say, Brother Denny, what you

976
00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:50,980
said about spanking doesn't work.

977
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:53,100
My child is not my friend.

978
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
They run as far away from me as

979
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,360
they can get.

980
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,660
I guarantee you, if you will do what

981
00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:02,480
I'm saying, what I said last night and

982
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600
what I've said this evening in the way

983
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,440
that I have said it, you will not

984
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,040
have to say those words.

985
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,260
God will draw your children close to your

986
00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:16,780
heart and you will have a child with

987
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:21,860
a clear countenance, bright and happy and enjoying

988
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,220
obeying their father and their mother.

989
00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:29,300
I promise you, in Jesus' name, that's what

990
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:29,820
you have.

991
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:31,380
Let's stand for prayer.

992
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:39,670
Oh God, this evening we come to you

993
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:41,290
again in Jesus Christ's name.

994
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:43,850
Father, we thank you that you love us

995
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:47,470
and there's no question in our hearts whether

996
00:38:47,470 --> 00:38:48,190
you love us.

997
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:50,810
You have proven it, Lord.

998
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:55,230
We thank you that you spank us and

999
00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:57,970
we've never doubted your love while you were

1000
00:38:57,970 --> 00:38:58,710
spanking us.

1001
00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:02,290
Oh God, we want that for our children,

1002
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:02,730
Lord.

1003
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:06,430
Oh God, some of this is new to

1004
00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:07,110
some of us.

1005
00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:09,290
Open up our eyes, Lord.

1006
00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:12,090
Some of us are in bondage, Lord.

1007
00:39:13,390 --> 00:39:15,410
Desperate needs inside of our own hearts.

1008
00:39:15,590 --> 00:39:18,390
Oh God, I pray, deliver us, Lord, that

1009
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:19,310
are in bondage.

1010
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:22,430
For the sake of our children, God, would

1011
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:24,470
you deliver those that are in bondage?

1012
00:39:24,810 --> 00:39:26,790
Would you speak faith to their hearts this

1013
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:27,630
evening, Father?

1014
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:29,690
Would you tell them there's a way out?

1015
00:39:29,810 --> 00:39:31,470
Would you tell them there's hope for them?

1016
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:33,750
Would you tell them, dear God, would you

1017
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:36,310
reach down in your loving kindness, wrap your

1018
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:39,390
arms around that struggling soul right now, and

1019
00:39:39,390 --> 00:39:42,150
speak those sweet words of love into their

1020
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:42,650
ear?

1021
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:43,630
I love you.

1022
00:39:44,030 --> 00:39:45,230
You are my child.

1023
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:46,650
I want to help you.

1024
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:48,730
I want to see fruit in your life.

1025
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:50,490
I want to help you with your children.

1026
00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:52,550
God, would you speak those words in the

1027
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:54,370
hearts of those that are struggling tonight?

1028
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:56,750
Don't let them despair, dear God.

1029
00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:59,190
Come alongside of them and love them in

1030
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:01,110
just the way that I've told them that

1031
00:40:01,110 --> 00:40:01,730
you love them.

1032
00:40:01,810 --> 00:40:03,050
Do it tonight, God.

1033
00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:06,570
I commit them into your care, each and

1034
00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:07,050
every one.

1035
00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:09,530
And Lord, we pray, would you open our

1036
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:11,370
eyes, God, and let us see this.

1037
00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:12,310
It's beautiful.

1038
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:13,590
It's so beautiful.

1039
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:14,650
Hallelujah!

1040
00:40:15,010 --> 00:40:17,330
Your precepts are beautiful, Lord.

1041
00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:19,010
Would you open our eyes?

1042
00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:20,690
We want to do it this way, Lord.

1043
00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:22,950
We want to lovingly spank our children.

1044
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:25,270
Please have mercy upon us and open our

1045
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:27,010
eyes and help us to see, God.

1046
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:29,530
I just commit all of this into your

1047
00:40:29,530 --> 00:40:31,050
care, Lord, every one.

1048
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:33,170
And Lord, we look to you for a

1049
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:35,850
blessing tomorrow night as we come together again

1050
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:38,130
to learn how to love our children.

1051
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:41,870
God, we ask this in Jesus Christ's name.

1052
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:42,850
Amen.
